[00:06:20] And the 72.5 kg Sepratron before the 20 kg engines. [00:14:47] And the 96 kg Xe after the 100 kg tanks. [00:16:34] empty vs full tanks maybe? [00:17:10] it's probably sorting for a different value than the one displayed [00:29:19] it appears there's too many degrees of latitude in kOS... doing LATLNG(91, 181) results in Kerbin:GEOPOSITIONLATLNG(91,-179); while doing LATLNG(181, 181) gives Kerbin:GEOPOSITIONLATLNG(-179,-179) [00:29:47] I'm wondering what the LATLNG of the north pole is, but it's far away and I don't have any contract with a waypoint there... [00:48:27] use the manual waypoint mod? [00:48:48] nodnod [00:49:01] or I could just map the terrainheight everywhere and see if it repeats itself ;-) [01:18:34] it appears it doesn't repeat itself :-O [01:30:51] who knows how that thing handles out-of-bounds values like that [02:52:18] Action: darsie put a few klaws in orbit to deorbit stuff. :) Not sure if they can take the heat. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot89.png [02:53:01] Yep, SSTO. [02:55:04] ... bombs away [02:58:35] Heh sorry, they do actually look like somewhat toony bombs [03:01:26] yeah :) [03:06:40] those aren't droids youre looking for. [03:10:11] Action: darsie deorbits Module LTO-8. [03:14:46] the game is called surviving mars, but i'm having a really hard time actually surviving [03:22:27] aspirational? [03:24:56] The title implies that the purpose of the game is to survive Mars. Games are generally challenging. Ergo, it seems entirely reasonable for surviving to have some difficulty. [03:25:39] Hmm, I didn't think of RCS. And a bit more fuel would have been good. I just put in 4 fuel in each Oscar B. [03:27:26] i have no real clue what actually happened, my metal stash was just gone all of a sudden [03:28:14] didn't help that there was a dust storm going on so i couldn't send supplies [03:33:16] Ok, deorbiting a lander can was a piece of cake. [03:48:56] oooooooooo.... https://imgur.com/gallery/h8Zaywo [03:48:56] https://i.imgur.com/Xm00lZ1.jpg [03:52:04] so many conspiracy theories waiting to happen [04:04:16] someone says its just a lamp.. -shrug [04:51:28] The deorbit tags work quite well. [06:04:32] again some mars society videos, now i have to watch them. but first to the bakery [06:54:56] hmm video about martian isru but not sabatier reaction [06:57:58] and dimethyl ether as fuel [09:10:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:21:35] hi there [10:05:11] hah insight moved its arm. but it seems the context camera cover was not really doing a fine job, because even when it is gone there is a lot of dust in the image [10:06:18] get out with the duster? [10:07:13] https://twitter.com/NASAInSight [10:07:41] i want to know how close were they to the intended target [10:07:58] it is big, so surely the hirise can spot it [10:08:29] we really need a martian gps :) [10:09:33] i was trying to come up with a simple mechanism to remove the dust from the camera. maybe charge it up, and then it should repeal the dust specks [10:10:06] i would assume that tends to attract more stuff [10:10:27] but it also repels them, because what is on it, and charged up too, they become the same charge [10:10:41] charge the dust then reverse polarity? [10:10:43] so it attracts stuff from farther away but removes what is close [10:10:55] hehe reverse polarity, star trek :) [10:10:59] it solves everything [10:11:11] i have never watched that lol [10:11:51] "reverse the polarity" solves about as many engineering problems as "it's aliens" solves space mysteries [10:25:41] eddi I think the earliest example is in one which inventor sets it to wrong polarity and tried to turn cloud to rain [10:25:49] shattered tons of glass [10:25:56] it was 1960s movie [10:33:41] finally finished this annoying game [10:34:54] surprisingly the boss wasnt even that hard [11:03:01] Althego, ? [11:08:05] dead space [11:08:34] honestly for spaceship zombies stasis is much better [11:10:27] https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:608397 [11:12:10] https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/2180/21807/218070/21807072_8dc41c95e28dae9eca5f572b211966fc_x.jpg [11:25:08] http://hateplow.tumblr.com/post/180672140163 [11:37:36] some of those look amazingly well done [12:02:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:04:15] ah the old utah teapot [12:53:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/518407460835426305/DSC_0241.JPG [12:54:09] uhm, ok? [12:54:36] my uncle purchased a small house, previous owner had some stuff [12:54:48] I have a bunch of nitro engines now [12:58:50] im gonna try to get this one flying first https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/518410575068528642/DSC_0243.JPG [12:58:50] nice! [12:58:59] there is also a tiny nitro spitfire [12:59:12] and what looks like a p47 that is mostly complete [12:59:30] and a cessna kit with a fiber fuselage that shouldnt be hard to get flying [12:59:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/518410583394222090/DSC_0244.JPG [13:02:15] im probably gonna make the bipe electric [13:02:26] just yesterday I was saying to a friend "I would like a small bipe [13:06:06] the bipe looks like a WWI plane [13:06:22] however fokker planes have a different rudder so it couldbe british [13:07:43] looks like a nieuport 23 [16:03:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:20:13] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:20:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:40:54] https://youtu.be/1T73shxOJFA [19:40:54] YouTube - Diamonds are NOT Forever: Burning Diamond - ElementalMaker [19:41:21] rhunderf00t already burned a small diamond [19:41:28] *thunder [19:42:03] it is my friends birthsay tomorrow so I printed him a soyuz to hang from the tree [19:42:11] hehe [19:42:17] soyuz christmas tree ornament [19:42:23] yeah [19:42:30] I probably have time to paint it as well [19:42:49] at least make it green [19:43:31] https://historicspacecraft.com/Photos/Russian/Soyuz_NASM2009RK_03.jpg [19:43:36] the old fashioned style [19:43:53] new ones are grey and white [19:44:05] https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MzKQw_WFC3igU90KLSuUQYMIStQ=/0x0:4928x2768/1200x800/filters:focal(3023x1018:3811x1806)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61133353/41215708870_1a38b45855_o.0.jpg [19:44:23] doesnt look very green [19:45:04] I could leave it orange so idk [19:45:04] i used the yt search nasa insight. 2 flat earther videos in top 10 saying it is fake [19:45:21] probs better to make it look somewaht scale [19:45:38] banana for scale :) [20:02:14] time to find printable adapters to put rc parts and lego together [20:03:46] i just thought of something [20:04:01] how does a probe landing on mars know its airspeed? [20:04:08] from inertial measurements? [20:04:23] because it has to open the parachute at a specific speed [20:04:33] but it doesnt have the radar then [20:04:47] and no way you could put a pitot probe in the plasma [20:05:12] maybe initial speed and then acceleration? [20:05:21] that is the inertial method [20:05:42] the problem is you are transitioning from a coordinate system centered around the sun to one locked to the planet [20:05:52] is that precise enough? [20:06:40] idk [20:07:54] There are detailed writeups of EDL somewhere, but I don't have the links on hand. [20:08:04] I guess I could make a lego to brushless adapter where to shaft comes from the back of the motor and it has a printed egar on there [20:08:28] but I want the shaft to be supported a both ends given it will be subjected to pretty ridiculous torque [20:09:50] it took me years to realize that the MERs used machine vision to measure their speed and correct before airbag landing. it took eme month to realize curiosity made a movie of landing, one of the most amazing videos ever. i wonder what i missed with insight [20:16:15] i still couldnt find out how big the landing position error was [20:16:23] they should know it already [20:17:26] meanwhile opportunity is almost certainly dea [20:17:26] d [20:17:39] so sad, it looked possible to survive that dust storm [20:18:06] they just need to send someone with a car battery to jump start it [20:18:13] hehe [20:18:40] future mark watneys are going to need materials for emergency communication :) [20:25:05] "Here, we use updated information to revise the calculated density of CoRoT-3 b from 26.4 to 16.1 ą 3.98 g cm3. We also report the densest exoplanet in our data set, KELT-1 b, with a density of ${22.1}_{-9.16}^{+5.62}\,{\rm{g}}\,{\mathrm{cm}}^{-3}$." [20:25:16] h_i [20:25:35] hehe [20:25:44] what is that, latex? [20:25:51] yeah [20:26:29] I'm just surprised by the densities (and size of the errors) [20:26:50] 22.1? [20:26:53] that is kind of dense [20:27:19] Just a bit. [20:27:49] wait, that is around, what, platinum? [20:27:55] no, even higher [20:30:07] osmium, iridium, etc [20:41:20] https://youtu.be/y311gXQaHnw [20:41:20] YouTube - RC. EXTREME micro sloping. [20:41:45] lol [20:41:48] it is micro [20:41:57] like 1 m above ground [20:54:34] btw this latest xkcd is horrible [21:10:11] after several hours, I finally printed a tiny soyuz that takes only 40 minutes [21:13:57] tomorrow spacex [21:14:05] the 64 sat payload [21:15:28] rly? [21:15:39] o rly? ya rly [21:16:06] Althego: puns! [21:16:10] these are tiny sats, one company took all these micro sats and hired spacex to launc hthem [21:16:39] the poodle with dual nozzles is still heresy [21:17:13] Ohh, I thought it was about teh Spacex internet sats. [21:17:36] http://spaceflight.com/sso-a/ [21:18:22] this way they may be even cheaper than electron [21:19:03] F9 is definitely cheaper if you have the volume/mass. [21:20:05] yes but it cant really launch tiny payloads [21:20:08] A dual nozzle poodle lets you cook pizzas with and without pineapple at the same time! [21:20:15] lol [21:20:56] The second nozzle is still going to raise questions about rotational control, though. [21:21:51] the other similar instances in the base game are multiple engines and they have rotational control [21:21:55] but this is a single engine [21:21:59] we will see [21:24:51] Yay for SpaceX creating even moar space debis! [21:25:02] hehe [21:25:36] Isn't that what we all love and want? [21:25:51] every satellite is future space debris [21:26:28] hehe reminds me of a line from 2 stupid dogs: oh, my future ex wife [21:26:55] No, seriously. If you launch a few sats per week and a few sats per week reenter, that's fine. But why do you launch 64 sats at once? With long term plans for a multiple thousand sat constellation in the future? No concerns about debris? [21:27:00] As long as they deorbit in a timely manner. [21:27:19] probably low earth orbit [21:27:27] so they are going to fall down [21:27:31] Action: UmbralRaptor eyes that ISRO launch of >100 sats [21:27:38] hehe [21:27:52] So apparently we have quantity over quality nowadays [22:49:10] I think I did a decent job https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/518559147772346368/DSC_0245.JPG [23:52:58] No, seriously. If you launch a few sats per week and a few sats per week reenter, that's fine. <-- that's like if you'd called a car manufacturer 100 years ago and told them "only make a few cars per week" [23:54:18] just extrapolate from that, that we'll have a few hundred million (active) satellites orbiting in 100 years