[00:37:52] Action: darsie landed the helicopter on Duna, but the wings are too low. Break easily if hit the ground too fast. [00:38:58] http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot150.png [00:40:13] It's possible, though, to slow down near the ground, stop rotation and land. [00:40:29] Action: darsie improves the helicopter ... [01:36:48] Much better with more ground clearance: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot155.png [02:09:49] Either Ike is cheating, or I calculated the maximum safe orbit within it wrongly. [02:11:13] Ahh, Ikes orbit is probably above Duna's surface, not Duna's center. [03:08:20] The in game distance shown is from the surface, yes [03:53:52] UmbralRaptop: Not for SOI in the tracking station info box. [03:54:03] UmbralRaptop: Topic Δv. V is volume, v is velocity. [03:54:38] Action: darsie 's helicopter flew 24346 m up on Duna: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot170.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot171.png [03:55:05] Almost half the atmosphere. [03:55:08] by height [03:56:27] change in voltage. contrast with ∇V [03:59:30] I'd like to be on that mountain, but unfortunately my helicopter is on the other side of Duna. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot174.png [04:00:02] I might make 50 m/s. [04:00:11] hmm, I could make a speed test. [04:00:36] Perhaps fly over the pole :). [04:04:01] Hmm, flying over the pole may be hard because of the Suns angle. [04:43:14] heelo [04:45:53] hi [08:09:04] Bwoop [08:09:33] mmmbop [08:09:41] and mmmpol :) [08:11:23] 👀 [13:26:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:39:38] damn, my return vessel toppled over [14:40:00] i went too skimpy on the landing legs [14:43:22] At least you have legs. This one took a huge amount of patience/dedication to land: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot55.png [14:43:49] Umm, was it this one? [14:44:04] no. This had 4 large RWs. [14:45:08] This one: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot71.png [14:45:45] Time to finish the last parts of the Jool expedition and then finally (after a year or so) launch it! [14:45:45] Just had RWs in the capsule. So basically purely propulsive landing without legs. [14:46:12] Was a single stage Mun sample return mission. [14:47:32] Flayer: BTW, putting a battery on the side of the rocket can angel your rocket up for take off. [14:47:39] angle [14:48:10] Much lighter than legs, too. [14:49:54] Good for low gravity like Minmus, Mun, Duna ... [16:38:33] Wow. My creation is finally done and then KSP decides to get stuck on something [16:38:34] meh [16:38:48] I hope it saved everything [16:39:08] All I wanted was a route to Jool. That was too much [16:39:59] I think KSP also autosaves ships. [16:40:20] Sometimes I see it in the load list. [16:40:53] I had to kill it :/ [16:41:39] using mods? [16:42:17] many [16:42:50] This time mechjeb could be at fault [16:48:17] Node in 15d, burn time 14 min. ok. [16:48:19] :D [16:48:40] Wasn't there a mod that could split such nodes in multiple smaller ones? [16:48:48] mechjeb doesn't seem to have this option. [16:54:40] https://imgur.com/a/ZWD9as8 Jool ship completely assembled [16:54:54] Mat2ch: Is that a departure burn? [16:55:11] yes [16:55:26] 0.26 TWR [16:55:33] 2k dV to go [16:59:04] Single and split burns can get exactly the same results, so some manual intervention is probably necessary. [17:00:17] Although, if you set the maneuver and the system displays the result of a split burn, it could work well. Not sure if a mod could do that. [17:00:58] Heck, KSP only displays instantaneous maneuvers. [17:02:58] Well, a sequence of instantaneous maneuvers would be a compromise. [17:04:07] There was a mod [17:04:18] and it should be fairly easy to calculate [17:04:30] you know where you are in time and when to leave and how fast you need to go there... [17:04:57] But Kerbins location changes all the time. [17:05:11] And hte location of the target. [17:16:35] Mat2ch: there was a kOS script called "MechVel" that could split a node into multiple burns [17:49:06] darsie: all you need is the last node for a start. Then you split it backwards. [17:49:43] The theory behind this is that you need a certain speed at a certain point of time (which is a certain point on your orbit) [17:50:48] Say at 30 min into your flight you need to be 1500 m/s fast in relation to your current planet you're orbiting [17:50:57] well, it can be a moon as well [17:51:25] that's no moon [17:51:50] it's not a star either! [17:55:48] but it is sure not living : [17:55:49] ) [18:06:01] https://imgur.com/a/c5pbVay Hello Jool! [18:06:08] Well, the mission making thing is broken. [18:06:22] I'm at Jool. Now I shall dock two vessels near Gilly?! [18:06:24] have you tried the science junior thingie? [18:06:50] there is a joke there [18:07:02] at least there was when i did it years ago [18:09:36] Well, now I will let everything sit in orbit around Jool and do two uncrewed vehicles to Gilly... [20:36:05] i really want KIS to be merged with the robotics inventory stuff so there's just one inventory system [20:36:09] someone do that for me [20:36:20] or link me to something that has that so i don't have to do anything myself [20:36:26] serve me! [20:40:51] hah, found an amazing channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSizWZVyD4 [20:41:13] the nerves and professionalism of the pilot is amazing [20:42:05] hehe she was an f18 pilot [20:42:27] it makes sense now [20:42:44] yeah, she's probably murdered dozens of people [20:42:48] you have to nerves of steel for that [20:43:46] Althego, have you heard that atc of the airplane that lost pressurisation and the pilots started suffering from asphyxia? [20:43:59] no [20:45:20] hypoxia is the correct term I think [20:45:21] anyway one engine exploded, took out one of the windows too, and you cant hear that in her voice [20:45:44] You can hear the alarms going on in the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg [20:46:22] And the speech is getting slower and slower as the pilot's brain's oxygen is disappearing [20:46:38] yes i can hear that [20:46:46] sound like drunk [20:47:46] "Unable to control altitude, unable to control airspeed, unable to control heading. Kalitta six six. Other than that, everyting A-OK!" [20:47:56] I think that's one of my favourite lines ever [20:47:56] hehe yes just heard that [20:51:04] haha yeah [20:51:06] funny shit [20:51:18] dont say that word [20:51:24] the mods are going to come after you [20:52:32] LOL [20:52:42] oh right [20:53:15] that's a word that's allowed by television nowadays though isn't it? [20:53:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0wZyG2a52s [20:53:51] not all pilots are calm in trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYGHGNZ47I [20:53:55] Action: UmbralRaptop fines Flayer 1 credit for violating the verbal morality statue [20:54:21] hehehe [20:54:53] ShadowJK: oh that is very discomforting to listen to.. [20:55:49] "Im rolling im rolling im rolling im rolling oh my god ah- help help" [20:56:03] oh at least you can read in the description that its fine [20:57:51] ShadowJK: If you want 'discomforting', read the AF447 transcript https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a3115/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877/ [20:58:15] Yeah I've seen [20:58:46] > But I've had the stick back the whole time! [20:59:06] Is probably the most terrifying statement I've seen in one of these things [20:59:08] back when i used to fly often i usually watched several episodes of air crash investigations the previous day :) [20:59:58] I mean, the co-pilot literally stalled a commercial aircraft all the way down into the ocean, out of sheer irrational panic [21:00:29] Action: FLHerne wouldn't want that job at all [21:00:41] the copolot or the stick? [21:01:29] Co-pilot [21:01:59] The stick didn't help, because the other pilots couldn't /tell/ he was stalling the aircraft [21:02:28] the inanimate carbon rod :) [21:05:41] ShadowJK: Wow, that really is a weird video [21:07:34] lumps of coal :D [21:17:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWGLdjFWuio [21:18:03] The robot is flat enough to fit even under this one :D [21:18:08] Considering the high tech world we live in, it's actually kind of surprising how bad communication is with aircraft flying over the oceans [21:18:21] at least it looks like it [21:19:12] i'm flat, i'm flat, sings the robot [21:19:35] goot, that rain must clean some of that soot off [21:19:51] they never clean these rockets, they just become uglier with each flight [21:22:43] The get "character". ;P [21:23:03] why not send them to coal mines first then [21:28:31] Rura Penthe [21:29:10] wasnt that dilithium