[02:39:02] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [02:39:02] !!! https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1079929469329129473 [02:39:03] After that singalong, Walter Alvarez, of K-T boundary fame, is speaking about impact science. This is quite the New& https://t.co/ldnMLJBsup [04:58:35] now really live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBGMhNIbRwY [04:58:36] YouTube - New Horizons Ultima Thule Flyby [05:02:04] that one died, here is an other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [05:02:05] YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV [05:02:16] a few seconds more delay [05:15:32] <3 [05:20:45] fesher stream works again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLn42FKScUU [05:20:45] YouTube - New Horizons Ultima Thule Flyby [05:31:43] *giggety* [05:34:08] whee! 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[11:48:05] Althego, apologies, I am currently skiing in Austria and the mobile connection is patchy. Not sure why my client still tries to connect here, I will turn it off entirely. Sorry for that. [11:48:17] Also, happy new year! And bye! :-) [11:48:41] hope he didn't skii and text at the same timed [11:48:48] lol [11:49:26] you can become the next michael schumacher really fast :) [11:49:51] what'd schumacher do? [11:50:19] hit a huge rock during skiing [11:50:24] ouch [11:50:27] ended his career? [11:50:37] no, he already stopped racing by that time [11:50:43] weird [11:50:51] but he never recovered, altough still alive [11:50:53] he's still in a coma, iirc [11:51:00] the dutch showed a picture of him on television, figured he either died or won a race [11:51:25] are you sure that wasn't Max? [11:51:42] i'm entirely not confident [11:57:58] Action: darsie is currently IRCing in Austria and the cable connection is stable. [11:58:26] don't hit a rock [11:58:31] but also spot the aplayuer [11:58:35] hehe [11:59:48] the hunt for aplayer [12:00:12] is it possible to use mhd to skii? :) [12:14:27] Mittelhochdeutsch? [12:15:01] Mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum? [12:15:08] i don't think that particularly helps with skiing :p [12:15:33] I got it. Magnetohydrodynamics :). [12:15:46] in any case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9C6KRUiaOo [12:15:46] YouTube - "Bullys Neujahrsansprache 2019! [12:16:16] and if you call strong language on that i will leave this channel forever :p [12:18:35] (because in the hunt for red october there is a plot point that the sub uses mhd drive so it is really silent) [12:19:38] https://xkcd.com/1851/ [12:20:13] yes the alt t ext nails it [12:20:17] lol [12:20:51] latest xkcd is fanastic [12:20:57] haha [12:21:02] that one has one of the best alt texts ever [12:22:17] if you think of the year as the motion of earth around the sun, then timezones shouldnt matter, earth is always at place and not multiple [12:22:51] :) [12:23:10] uhm, no, the earth is still not a perfect dot, it is a sphe... object with dimensions, so part of it will be in the new year position and part of it not [12:23:14] Sure, but then you need to get everyone using UTC or TAI. [12:23:49] if you zoom out far enough it's a perfect dot [12:24:09] (also, it's not like "new year" is in any way defined by an orbital position) [12:24:27] the point is, the timezones are the product of the rotation of earth, not of the motion around the sun, so they are unrelated [12:24:44] and yes ultimately the year is meaningless [12:25:00] because earth does not orbit in a closed orbit [12:25:30] well, technically "new year" is defined by "the first new moon after the winter solstice in the year 4BC" or something like that [12:25:38] Only seconds are real, but people look at you funny if you stick kilo/mega/giga on them. [12:25:46] hehe [12:25:54] i have seen giga years [12:25:57] but not seconds [12:26:34] Anyway, a year is ~31.5 megaseconds. [12:28:12] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS3GQk9ETRU [12:28:12] YouTube - Magnetohydrodynamics - Propelling Liquid Metal with Magnets! [12:31:37] is it same drive russia sub had in red oct movie? [12:31:46] yes [12:31:50] cool [12:31:57] Same principle. [12:32:02] i wish all boats had that, as ocean is getting very noisy [12:32:08] not good for animals in ocean [12:32:14] doesent work in reality [12:32:15] Not very efficient. [12:32:28] the ocean is nowhere near salty enough to produce usable thrust [12:32:47] too bad [12:33:00] Also the current through the water would create chlorined, hydrogen and sodium hydroxide through electrolysis. [12:33:08] chlorine* [12:33:15] also note that even a nuclear powered sub produces noise just by the turbines propelling the generator [12:33:41] so you can hear that even if ther is no propeller noise [12:34:08] well if it cuts down noise a lot still worthy but yeah still have issues like yiu guys listed [12:34:32] must replace the oceans with mercury :) [12:34:48] lol [12:34:58] nobody would drown [12:35:03] no shark attacks [12:35:06] and mhd possible [12:35:25] would be funny if we found a world where mecury is main liquid, as well as mecury as solvent for lifeforms not water [12:36:26] eyes probably wouldnt evolve there till animals got out of ocean [12:37:08] hah terrestial lifeforms with mercury as blood, sounds cool [12:37:23] would have to be quite strong [12:37:46] they would have to be strong anyway because most probably they are on a super earth [12:37:49] one atm is what just 1 cm or so into mecury? [12:38:02] theres one video of guy standing on mecury [12:38:08] 29.92 in hg :) [12:38:23] inches of mercury, one of the silliest units ever [12:38:36] https://youtu.be/LS3GQk9ETRU?t=658 actual mhd action after theory. [12:38:36] oh you mean the depth [12:38:43] yeah [12:39:36] p = rho * g * h [12:40:07] 13.56 g/cm^3 for mercury [12:40:35] i leave the rest as an exercise for the reader >( [12:40:37] :) [12:40:45] bah lol [12:44:12] anyway just by feelings, because the same formula is true for water, and you need around 10 meters for 1 atmosphere, it means around 3/4 meters for 1 atm [12:44:39] 3 or 4 or 3/4 [12:44:57] well, 10/13.56 [12:45:09] which i feel is around 0.75 [12:45:13] Action: UmbralRaptop recalls 760 mmHg as 1 atm [12:45:15] cool so somewhat under a meter [12:45:21] aka, torr [12:45:29] guess I misremembered [12:45:47] Unfortunately, mercury is one of the rarer elements [12:45:57] actually... that should be the same because it is in balance [12:46:06] so the 29.92 in hg is true then [12:47:05] and and also of course the 760 mm, and the 3/4 m approcimation i had, was quite close [12:53:22] so when will there be a picture? [12:53:25] in 2 hours? [12:55:22] from 10:15 est signal acquisition, from 11:30 status and images [12:55:42] that meansa bit more than 2 hours something will be live [13:09:11] Instant cassettes! "Recorded live in 2 hours" http://www.reuters.tv/l/PNlz/2018/12/31/new-horizons-signal-acquisition-from-flyby-of-ultima-thule [13:10:33] what would you do with the raw signal? [13:27:24] cook it, grill it, bake it? [13:27:59] or maybe in america deep fry it [13:28:19] south america [13:36:28] anyway, who came up with the name "Ultima Thule"? [13:36:57] for me this always carries a "the nazis built ufos and flew to the moon" vibe [13:42:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:45:51] blame greece [13:45:51] and it is not even the last, supposedly they have energy for one more flyby [13:46:09] in around 2022, if they find a target [13:51:35] it'll be one of those "voyager has finally left the solar system" deals? [13:51:44] hehe [13:51:54] no, it is a lot slower because jupiter was not involved [13:52:13] system border is so amgious [13:52:15] and moves [13:52:29] so it simply runs out of plutonium before going that far [13:52:48] has a few more years at best [13:52:49] I think second voyager is finally offically outside also [13:52:53] yes it is [13:53:01] although there is the oort cloud [13:53:08] which is still "here" [13:53:16] both has RNG power so low that they are using workarounds to make sure its still working [13:53:33] random number generator power :) [13:53:35] like turn off heat to do work transmit then back on before it breaks [13:53:50] bah forgot whats short of nuclear decay power? [14:02:42] Can't turn off heat of a RTG. [14:03:06] darsie: nope but you certainly can turn off heaters. [14:03:33] voyagers has heaters to control interior temperate so circuits and other stuff dont break [14:03:42] ic [14:05:27] But that might break circuits. [14:05:44] being very cold would break em [14:05:45] But yeah, better than no operation at all. [14:06:07] but problem is power is so low that they have to turn off heat in order to do anything [14:06:14] rtg is so old [14:06:50] charge a capacitor bank and use power intermittently. [14:06:52] might be ways around this. first of all those things protected by the heaters can be more resilient than expected. also for the mers they learned to opereate them without the heaters in the winter, by not letting them sleep. then the waste heat from the computers kept them warm, still consumed less than the heaters [14:07:35] yeah if youre willing to go there in order to upgrade voyagers? ;) [14:07:46] hehe [14:07:57] probably tsomebody is going to get them later on [14:08:02] just to putthemin museums [14:08:12] oh i messed up [14:08:13] if its possible. vacuum damages metal [14:08:30] not too sure on timescale onb that though [14:08:30] now i summoned the residnet evil [14:08:52] still better chance to retrieve them than the tesla :) [14:09:47] Tesla is an Earth orbit crosser. Just adjust its apoapsis so it rendezvous with Earth. [14:09:47] but we already know voyager 2 will be sent back by an alien culture that wants to rid the world of carbon infection [14:09:56] hehe [14:10:03] vger :) [14:10:20] still like oyage and pion better from what was its title [14:11:14] lol v'ger indeed [14:11:25] man size of that ship was insane [14:11:46] jinrui wa suitai shimashita [14:11:54] lots of mysterous feature including what looks like miniture dyson spheres with stars [14:12:22] lol https://onqpl.blogspot.com/2010/06/qnx-system-runs-nonstop-for-15-years.html [14:12:25] 15 years. [14:12:32] wait till you read why [14:13:39] hehe typical [14:13:54] what is not inside a concrete block will be stolen [14:15:12] article is from 2010 [14:15:22] wonder if its still running 9 years later [14:15:26] the famous novell thing was 16 years or so [14:15:34] a few years later [14:16:20] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/epic-uptime-achievement-can-you-beat-16-years/ [14:17:29] dang [14:19:46] heh the livestream is soon upon us, and i hace still lectures to watch from susskind on special relativity [14:21:57] oh stream of what? [14:22:23] signal reception from new horizons, then some press thing about the first image [14:24:12] cool but gonna sleep later :) [14:24:21] hehe [14:24:32] more than 12 hours for signal to get here lol [14:39:41] relativistic philosophy: does the flyby happen when the signal is sent, or when the signal is received? [14:43:18] ok the last wone is just some clarification [14:43:31] then i have time to watch flat earthers fail again :) [14:47:01] for the new year, I (re)released this I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZpFVARvo5w [14:47:01] YouTube - Seven nation army-sort of jazz cover [14:49:19] well... my advice is, eat a bit more :) [14:49:28] all of you :) [14:49:50] it was from last summer [14:50:16] and with this i finally got to general relativity [14:51:06] Fluburtur: maybe it would help if everyone played the same key? :p [14:51:15] shhh [14:51:37] no one wants to transpose notes [14:52:03] transposons [14:52:16] could be a good band name :9 [14:54:25] yes, youtube, after this video i am certainly interested in a video about south korean toilets. [14:58:44] Eddi|zuHause imagine what will happen now that I have a trumpet [14:58:48] even more chaos in the bad [15:16:03] flame on [15:16:06] stream on [15:16:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlh2uG4yJLs [15:16:07] YouTube - New Horizons: First Images of Ultima Thule [15:16:11] nothing yet [15:20:34] starting [15:20:42] https://i.redd.it/ujopipl69s721.jpg [15:30:33] but, why is that a jpg? [15:31:20] because idiots [15:31:27] are everywhere [15:32:03] and now they can wait an hour until they get something [15:32:09] Ohhh, they have a red telephone! :D [15:32:19] and curved screen [15:32:35] for reporting alien invasion? :) [15:33:15] I wonder how many people are just there out of curiosity :D [15:33:26] hehe [15:34:06] and it looks like they're running xfce ;) [15:34:10] rf is green :) no, then it would be in visual range :) [15:35:33] what's in the box?? [15:35:40] what's on the screen? [15:37:18] How many people are in that room?! [15:37:33] 167 [15:37:40] this many [15:37:44] if you also count the bots. [15:37:50] about 20 it seems [15:38:12] or maybe that is only a corner of a bigger room [15:42:14] hehe conjunction, right in the beginning [15:42:25] i can imagine them screaming for days [15:42:29] where is my daaaataaa [15:43:39] so continuing in avout 45 minutes [15:44:13] in about 45 minutes they have enough data for a picture? [15:44:20] probably [15:44:24] this is the failsafe [15:44:29] so one low resolution [15:46:12] And I complain about my lousy internet connection... :D [15:46:55] .oO(read: someone threw a few filter over some receiver noise, so they've got something to show the audience) [15:47:09] lol [16:15:17] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW1rc-D3A5I [16:15:18] YouTube - New Horizons press briefing: spacecraft status, latest images and data download schedule [16:15:23] what, it started before i expected [16:15:41] ok, it is nothing yet [16:16:04] also i hate it when there is a video that is there in recommendation but not visible in the channel [16:31:45] they are smiling [16:31:50] i assume they got something [16:32:46] bowman [16:33:01] bowman + space = bad omen [16:35:03] lol the blob [16:35:15] it looks like the shape they expected [19:00:47] amazing, isnt it https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Detecting_Ultima_Thule%27s_Size_and_Shape_on_Approach_%28cropped%29.png [19:27:21] I just started a new career mode game, and I'm not sure what I'm doing [19:27:32] I've never gotten very far in career mode [19:28:15] I just did a Mun flyby without maneuver nodes or patched conics being visible [19:28:19] the usual. grind science to get parts, grind missions to get money to upgrade buildings [19:29:13] I have all but one of the 45 science technologies [19:29:23] which 90-science technology should I get? [19:29:41] when should I try to land on the Mun? [19:30:04] whenecer yo uare readt :) [19:30:05] how do I get a pilot to a high enough level to use maneuver nodes? [19:30:13] not the pilot [19:30:17] no? [19:30:23] it is a building upgrade [19:30:26] or possibly two [19:30:31] which building? [19:30:49] shows in the tip of the update [19:30:59] i think the science and tracking [19:31:13] doesn't seem to be those [19:31:20] oh [19:31:26] it's mission control and tracking station at level 2 [19:31:43] but you want science upgraded anyway for surface sample [19:32:02] ah [19:32:06] and astronaut complex for eva [19:32:10] how do I keep track of which experiments I should be doing? [19:32:21] there is a history in the science building [19:32:26] two buttons on top [19:32:28] wow, science upgrade is expensive [19:32:30] one is the tech tree [19:32:37] the other is science [19:32:40] ah [19:32:41] there are filters for planets and types [19:33:39] it seems to only show experiments I've already done [19:33:42] probably you want solar panels for the moon landing [19:33:50] but not necessary [19:34:02] especially with a kerbal because almsot no power drain [19:34:49] are the atmospheric survey contracts worth it? [19:36:12] depends. if they are really close and in low atmosphere they may worth it. but some of them tend to be at 17 km what you cant achieve until you get the whatsitsname vectoring jet [19:36:30] and are very far away, also not worth it without the advanced jet [19:36:52] how do I find out where they are without accepting them? [19:37:02] just look at tracking station [19:37:06] they are visible there [19:37:24] before I've accepted them? [19:37:26] with the contractor name and the point name [19:37:27] yes [19:37:35] oh, so they are! [19:37:37] but kerbal rescue missions are not visible before accepting [19:38:02] anyway for the landing i take a scientist for the experiment reset and a probe core for sas, so i need the solar panels [19:38:23] but also with the 30 part limit it is good the have the biggest solid booster [19:38:38] when exactly does a ship have SAS? [19:39:04] when it has a pilot or a probe core that can do it, which is basically anything but the stayputnik [19:39:11] oh [19:39:17] that was the problem [19:40:09] do scientists do anything without the onboard lab? [19:40:11] the probe core only would experience comm los, but if sas is on, and there is a kerbal in it, even when it is not a pilot, then it is basically as having a pilot. that is why scientists are the best in career [19:40:35] you mean the huge lab? or the science bay junior [19:42:13] the thing that turns data into science [19:42:24] what's "comm los"? [19:42:31] i never use it because you have enough science in the klerbin soi to get all nodes in normal [19:42:32] line of sight to the tracking station? [19:42:35] and almost all in hard [19:42:40] so basically it is op [19:42:49] loss of signal [19:43:08] i hate it that they are exactly the opposite meaning, and same acronym, withing the same context [19:44:25] what do scientists do? [19:46:47] they can reset 1 use only experiments, meaning the science bay and mystery goo [19:47:07] and i think they can power the science lab too, but as i said i dont use it because it is too op [19:47:11] so you can transmit results more than once? [19:47:31] you can take out the result from any science equipment with any type of kerbal [19:47:37] and take it with you in the cockpit [19:47:54] dont need to transmit and lose a lot of science [19:48:01] or wit ha scientist you cant transmit it once [19:48:09] then reset and make it again [19:48:20] take the resutl with you, that is more than just taking it with you ince [19:48:36] also you can use a single experiment on different biomes or states [19:48:47] like high in space, low in space, on surface [19:48:53] why would anyone transmit science, then? [19:48:55] saves part count and mass [19:49:06] because you cant always go back [19:49:27] for example probe lands, cant come back, then it just transmits [19:49:36] good example is eve [19:49:48] in the first 10 days yo uhave an eve launch window, or at least the end of one [19:49:54] you can send a probe to eve [19:50:02] but quite hard to send one back from the surface [19:56:48] huh [19:57:03] my rocket just happened to swerve on its own into a perfect launch profile into orbit [19:57:08] except that it went west [19:57:44] hehe [19:57:49] not so perfect [19:58:00] Sometimes we need to go west. [20:11:29] Go west, young booster. [20:17:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:48:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:05:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:30:11] hi [21:31:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:31:42] yo [21:35:17] Goodbye Guest50831 [21:40:16] guessing just testing [21:40:55] also ugh.. robotic launcher to send a lander into orbit.. of course Jeb just has to get onboard everything ever created any chance he gets. >_> [21:42:54] I made a carry case for the radio https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/529686453828190211/DSC_0324.JPG [21:44:36] went to record the launch... wasn't till after I got it into orbit that I realized he shouldn't have been there from the start. pilot would be up in another vehicle, having two people woulda been a mses [21:45:28] Fluburtur it say Frsky on the top? [21:45:33] yes [21:46:18] huh.. hadn't heard of them before. almost makes me think 'frisky'. ;P [21:47:01] with a nice long range 868mhz module on the back [21:48:39] wish to fly my drone more... phone parents got me isn't the greatest... not to mention wifi ... ugh. Keeps kicking out even at less than 10 meters [21:49:16] currently, one of two battery packs bloated from being drained. [21:49:34] yeah wifi is kinda crap, this system is supposed to give me at least 10km of range [21:49:54] come to think of it, not even sure where the dead pack ended up being put its been almost a year now [21:50:49] I hoped the software that controls the drone would work on my 2-in-1 laptop, but ... 'insufficient credentials'...? [21:52:18] welp.. found the dead pack.. wow, batteries pretty bloated.. sigh. [22:17:10] Gosh, I didn't realize that the New Horizons downlink to earth is like 1-2 Kbps. I guess we'll be waiting a long time for those pictures. :( [22:18:33] iamfishhead1 20 months to get 5-6 gigs [22:18:44] smol spacecraft, long distance [22:19:02] 1/r� is not your friend. [22:19:13] more to do with distance... causing slow transfer speed [22:20:49] Eh, just stick a kilowatt laser on the next spacecraft. [22:21:02] Action: UmbralRaptop is not entirely serious. [22:21:36] trying to figure out where the craft is and planets in the solar system in relation to us [22:22:04] wondering if they having to get signal on other side, passing the sun. [22:23:49] Yeah, inverse square law indeed [22:24:52] There should be sites that show those positions. Hayabusa 2 / Ryugu just passed out from behind (ish) the sun. [22:28:38] ugh browser crash [22:30:52] i still haven't attempted a playthrough with Ryukyu [22:31:29] uh [22:31:59] how am I supposed to test an SRB at 160 km? [22:32:14] moar boosters [22:32:30] heh... semi cheat? [22:32:31] can I test it without activating it? [22:32:39] send it up empty [22:32:41] i don't think so [22:32:55] ohh, emptying it is a good idea [22:33:07] i think for engines it must actually run with (some) fuel [22:33:19] unless you want to actually use it... some cases you need to test through staging [22:33:48] last time i used such a mission to send something out of Kerbin SOI [22:33:58] I've had a few that just wanted to carry it around.. [22:34:23] with the new deltav display you should also be able to make a maneuver node to predict where it'll be going [22:34:27] most annoying contract I've had is, high gee adventure in sub-orbital and full orbit... [22:35:03] how do you get high g-forces in orbit? [22:35:56] I guess I had high enough rep..? [22:35:56] does rotation count there? [22:36:02] I was definitely able to test a part by clicking "Run test" after I had activated it when I was supposed to test it by activating it through staging [22:36:22]