[00:19:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:35:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:35:36] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: The science must flow! The science has given us accelerated evolution for two centuries. It has enabled you to live one hundred years. The science makes the microchip, which gives the computers the ability to play cat videos. [00:37:17] The science has created peppers with heat in excess of one million scovilles! [00:38:04] UmbralRaptop: If that doesn't allow GPS Navigators to fold space-time, than nothing will! [00:38:53] :D [00:40:01] UmbralRaptor: Okay, so I'm going through the citations "Message Decontamination is Impossible", and it seems one of the central arguments has only to cites to its credit. [00:41:24] hrm [00:42:07] One is a book without any page references, and the other is a document that has only been cited twice in other literature. [00:42:43] Action: Scolar_Visari is increasingly suspicious that the people who argue that AI are Skynets waiting to happen or approaching singularities in boxes probably know nothing about AI. [00:45:56] I'm not entirely sure if the paper has actually been peer reviewed. Two cites for a statement that AI cannot be, "imprisoned" is pretty low. [00:47:29] Though, since the paper directly states that an AI might, "blueprints for nanobots" to cure cancer as a trojan horse for its more malevolent intentions, I suppose that alone is enough to send it back for a rewrite. [00:47:57] Action: Scolar_Visari seriously wonders if the authors were thinking of tiny robots. [00:49:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:49:44] Supernovy: You missed it. Aliens are going to send us computer viruses. [00:52:34] I do like this illustration https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2018/2-unlockingthe.jpg [00:54:07] Scolar_Visari: with the cure for cancer, no less [00:56:43] ve2dmn: It'll be just like those, "free to play" online games. "Only one cancer treatment per month for non-subscribers. Subscribe today for $20,000 and get a treatment every 24 hours!" [01:01:03] Action: Scolar_Visari goes to verify and contextualize quote made by Hannes Alfvén, but instead gets a source which previously states that, "General Relativity itself violates the usual conservation of energy and momentum and is therefore in conflic with experiment on a deep level, rendering Einstein's conception of the physical Universe and the gravitational field invalid". [01:01:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:01:47] I... hum... no comments [01:02:35] The author, Stephen Crothers, describing themself: "I'm neither a mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and home handyman who does science in his spare time." [01:02:59] I mean, Einstein was wrong plenty of times, but I would not bet against Einstein [01:04:13] ve2dmn: Well, it's not like general relativity has been supported by any observations over the years. Certainly not recently! /s [01:04:39] it's not like GPS accuracy depends on it... [01:06:02] When was Gravity probe A launched again? [01:06:12] What's terrible is the reference I quoted earlier comes from a paper released during a symposium hosted by an actual academic publisher. [01:06:29] For Heaven's sake, the Gmail address alone should've set off alarms! [01:07:14] didnt you hear about the time they accepted a randomely generated paper? [01:08:35] It was quite some time ago, back when getting 'slashdotted' was still a thing... [01:09:24] Someone wrote a random paper generator, and after a few submissions, one of thoses paper got accepted... [01:09:50] By the Nine! That's not the only bad paper! "Implementing Maxwell's Aether Illuminates the Physics of Gravitation" and "Thoughts Occasioned by the 'Big Bang' Model of the Universe" (with a section on Halton FREAKING Arp). [01:10:45] What kind of rodeo clownshow conference were these bozos running!? [01:11:07] one where they take $ in exchange for publication [01:12:26] I work in open access these days... and I've quite a few weird things in this industry [01:12:58] I've seen some bad nonsense get into peer review from time to time, but this stuff is Time Cube level bad. [01:13:23] wow... that's a blast from the past. [01:13:54] Action: Scolar_Visari quietly ponders if anyone who contributed to the "8th Symposium Honoring Mathematical Physicist Jean-Pierre Vigier" were actually scientists. [01:14:11] I mean, one of them already admitted to being a gardener. [01:16:47] Markov chains for that paper, wasn't it? [01:17:05] Though I suppose it serves me right for trying to investigate, once again, if one of Alfven's alleged followers misquoted him before ending up in a rabbit hole of further nonsense. [01:17:13] in my case, what I hate the most is people downloading PDF from our website and then charging $ for it... [01:17:55] ve2dmn: That's like selling bootleg copies of public domain films [01:18:03] yup [01:18:21] But they sell a *giant* database of *research* [01:18:40] Sci-Hub is pleasing. [01:19:13] Scolar_Visari: There was a great blog post about people who 'sell' firefox [01:19:55] ve2dmn: Well, we do live in a world where people sell water that's been imbued with positive thoughts. [01:20:29] don't remind me. it's depressing [01:21:20] Ooooh! Crothers et al.s, "Criticisms of the Einstein Field Equation: The End of the 20th Century Physics" sells online starting at $133.61 That's $133.61 more than I'm willing to pay, of course. [01:21:29] ve2dmn: Clearly you need more positive water. [01:21:54] Action: Scolar_Visari wriggles their grasping appendages in the intrepretive dance of their people and projects positive thoughts into ve2dmn's refreshments. [01:21:56] Scolar_Visari: clearly since I have all the symptoms of depresion [01:22:43] I'm probably in need of something else I with magically positive magnetic energy that cost 400000$/ml [01:23:03] I also sell quantum healing strips. [01:23:44] too small [01:24:15] These strips actually absorb toxins and negative energies. I think. [01:24:31] then they collapse into nothingness? [01:24:50] I can also summon my cabal of psykers in a couple of moments to commune with The Shroud. [01:25:06] my sugestion: DONT [01:25:26] Would you like to receive a boon? I'm also on good turns with the Totally-Not-Chaos-Gods [01:27:04] Action: Scolar_Visari has their soldiers herd the coven of psychics into the Communion Chamber. With the raising of talons, a hush falls across the sterile stone chamber as the dozens of Gifted focus their minds. [01:27:14] https://xenonion.com/home/2267/6/19/une-president-accidentally-uploads-mental-state-to-shroud [01:28:50] Action: Scolar_Visari closes their nictating membranes, anticipating the gust of wind and crackling of energies as the gossimer thin barrier between the Materium and Immaterium is pierced and widened as a child might dig a hole into the ground. [01:30:28] Action: Scolar_Visari becomes decreasingly aware of there being any others in the room, save for the countless eyes watching from Beyond. Thirsting eyes, jealous eyes, murderous, baleful and psychotic eyes glancing out from the realm that no sentient being was meant to contact. [01:32:10] Action: Scolar_Visari projects their own thoughts into a might voice of ages, calling, no, demanding the presence of the most powerful so that the mortals may bargain with them. "We request your positive thoughts" told the request. "We know what you seek" came the rumbling response of beings too alien to perceive with eyes. But then again, one does not need eyes to see where they're going in the Shroud. [01:32:10] isn't that what the 'space elves' did and got wiped out for? [01:32:46] ve2dmn: Oh no, the Eldar simply became so corrupt and twisted that their thousands of years of increasingly depraved sport and celebration *CREATED* a Chaos god. [01:33:58] The Birth of Slaanesh was so terrible that it created a hole in the very fabric of the universe: The Ocularis Terribus. The Eye of Terror. The psychic scream and physical tear in space slew the vast majority of the Eldar where they stood. [01:34:47] Even most of those who had warned of the Eldar's Doom and had sought to escape it in their primeval Craftworlds were lost to the opening of the Eye of Terror, with others still left precariously close to its reach. [01:36:03] Slaanesh thirst for Eldar souls, however, was not sated. Indeed, those Eldar who die must have their souls trapped within the twilight unlife of the precious soulstones or risk being consumed by Slaanesh. [01:36:59] hum... I had the impression that the Space Elves had too much Space pleasures without space protection [01:37:01] uhhh what are you going on about? [01:37:24] Draconiator: Warhammer [01:37:34] Ah [01:38:46] Draconiator: I was TRYING to summon something from The Shroud. [01:39:23] Then the question regarding space elves through me off. Now I'm afraid consulting with The Shroud will simply get me an audience with The End of Cycle. [01:40:51] Yes, ve2dmn will get their x100% bonuses to happiness, but it won't end well in 50 years. [01:41:32] I heard tales of the End of the Cycle, but I have never seen it [01:41:54] Action: UmbralRaptor guesses that Scolar_Visari was summoning something affiliated with Tzeentch? [01:42:19] ve2dmn: The tool tip for the selection even says, "Do not do this." [01:42:26] I know [01:42:41] "Meh, what's the worst that could happen?" [01:42:58] UmbralRaptor: Tzeentch is in the game. Sort of. Though not nearly as fun as Psychic Avatar spaceships. [01:43:23] It's even a 'possible' strategy: because since it kills you last, if you wait long enough, you win [01:43:38] Hah [01:44:31] ve2dmn: Or you can get lucky and have it fight off another end game enemy. [01:44:49] Sort of like stopping a fire by detonating a nuclear bomb in its path. [01:47:38] Didn't the Soviet Union do that for some oil well fire? [01:49:31] They did that for whole wars [01:50:01] Action: Scolar_Visari can only imagine the number of oil wells that would've been set on fire following a successful conquest of Stalingrad by the Heer. [01:50:40] Wikipedia says that they did so for 5 natural gas fountains. Hrm& [01:53:13] That sounds right. [01:53:13] There are few problems in life that cannot be solved by the careful application of nuclear explosives. [01:54:55] IE: Neighbor building fencing on your property? A tactical yield nuclear blast will take care of such a transgression with permanence. Food poisoning from the local Golden Corral? Cleanse it with atomic fire, of course! Need to get fish for your family reunion fish fry? One thermonuclear blast will net you an entire shoal! [01:57:34] Tastes like Iodine-131? [01:58:25] Mmmmm. [01:58:55] Needless to say, I'm not invited to security council meetings anymore. [01:59:06] Because MY ideas are simply TOO effective. [01:59:10] "Bah! I eat Radiation for breakfast!"... "You might want to skip a few meals" [01:59:52] ve2dmn: We won't need any meals once we learn to convert the radiation from thermonuclear blasts into mammal energy. [01:59:53] bonus points if you know where that quote is from [02:01:06] Can I use a hotline? [02:01:21] I'd like to call a friend. G. Oogle. [02:01:49] 1-800-crappy-cartoons-from-the-90s [02:02:40] Oh oh oh I know this one . . . Is it . . . The second season of the New Adventures of Johnny Quest? [02:02:58] Or, no, wait, I take that back . . . [02:04:13] Wait . . . Robert Patrick, AKA the T-1000, was RACE in the first season? I know Q was Dr. Quest in the 2nd, but Johnny Quest had a Terminator for a bodyguard! [02:04:18] I'll give you 1 hint: Tim Curry [02:05:42] That would be EVERY OTHER TELEVISION SHOW FROM THE 90's! [02:06:47] Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad, for instance. Who was the villain? Why Tim Curry, of course. [02:07:01] Action: Scolar_Visari is displeased they remembered that it was spelled, "Syber". [02:08:48] want the answer? [02:09:12] Yes. I need it so I can rethink what I'm doing. [02:09:26] My. God. I actually remembered SSSS. [02:09:30] That first line comment was from Norman, and the reply is from Max [02:09:52] Tim was the vilain: Skullmaster [02:10:43] Norman's common catchphrase is, "I eat [X] for breakfast" [02:10:54] Action: Scolar_Visari pauses opening scene to The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest. Is . . . Is that an A-10 firing at Jonny and his dog? [02:11:14] sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Max_(TV_series) [02:11:15] Can I use G. Oogle now? We're really good friends. I think it may have the answer. [02:11:29] That's ancient. Why would you remember that? [02:11:48] because I am beyond old [02:12:36] Here see http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/gIuuPTM3nSc/hqdefault.jpg [02:12:53] Jonny Quest. [02:13:01] ve2dmn: I'm old. I think. I seem to have trouble remembering things after that whole eruption of Mt. Etna. Or was it Krakatoa? [02:13:42] Action: Scolar_Visari notes outrunning an A-10 in anything other than another aircraft is unlikely to succeed. [02:14:08] Better picture http://questfan.com/wiki/images/1/16/Creditscaps06.jpg [02:14:31] Is the pilot aware he's shooting at a teenager and his tiny dog? [02:15:05] There's also outrunning of an AH-64 on horseback http://questfan.com/wiki/images/5/52/Creditscaps13.jpg [02:17:01] #KSPOfficial is serious business. [02:39:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:02:17] https://i.gyazo.com/2dbcc23188b3d6a170236e443fd5db7e.png - I think I came up with a Kerbalproof rover, I've flipped it a lot and nothing ever blew up on it. [03:03:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:16:26] And it took a full Olympic dive off of a crater rim for something to break on it. but it's STILL going [03:42:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:49:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:54:03] Draconiator: its a bit homely tho, aint it [05:57:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:31:31] https://i.redd.it/vb5mvcgrb0j01.jpg [09:56:02] hm [09:56:55] looks like gravity can make docking between a base on legs and rover on wheels impossible [10:17:26] Gasher[work]: difficult certainly.. sometimes have to retract and deploy the legs a bunch, make the base jump up and down to get the dock to engage [10:19:09] no, not that exactly [10:21:36] it's hard to determine the exact place to put docking port - in VAB you can place rover and base together but when you put them on the mun its weight make legs contract and port goes lower than you thought it should be [10:58:55] https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/969159183747702784 [10:58:55] <BBCScotlandNews> This driver had a near miss with a bus in Edinburgh yesterday afternoon. #Beastfromtheeast https://t.co/UjiilaqozX [11:17:13] Gasher[work]: it is easy. launch the whole thing, alter gravity while on the launchpad, and see if the other half connects [11:17:32] alter gravity? [11:17:37] in the cheat menu [11:17:39] ah [11:17:42] never used that [11:17:46] alter it to the target body [11:18:02] yeah, i'll remember that [13:52:21] LOL, offroading on Mun is more fun than it should be. [13:59:27] is there a good treads mod yet? :v [13:59:38] sure is! [14:07:02] does KSP have any SRBs with thrust vectoring yet? [14:08:01] not vanilla I think [14:08:12] procedural ones support it tho afaik [14:09:04] wanted to do a Vega esque thing [14:09:28] then again we don't have any solid boosters that allow early thrust cutoff either [14:10:15] you can just stage them early? [14:10:21] just have some separatrons somewhere so you don't explode your own rocket with them flying about [14:10:26] jettisoning SRBs under thrust is somewhat.... interesting [14:10:34] oh yes [14:10:57] interesting [14:10:59] and thrilling! [14:30:54] according to my social networks, I shared this video 7 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_USPTmYXM [14:30:55] YouTube - Space Shuttle Launch: Viewed From an Airplane [14:54:10] Pity Ares I never went anywhere [14:56:45] SRB could potentially be cheap [15:23:10] Are there other solar systems or just one so far? [15:23:57] Bishopking63: without mods, no [15:24:34] Also, good luck getting to any other solar systems without future tech or some very careful planning. [15:24:54] But if you want to do that, there are some very good extra-solar mods [15:25:38] I'm on PS4 sadly no fun for me [15:26:04] You don't think the game is challengin enough as is? [15:27:19] I always push the limits of what i can do before doing the more intricate things. [15:28:14] Did you get to Eeloo? [15:30:16] I'm in its orbit ya landing is another story lol [15:30:53] to be honest it is possible to learn the base game quite fast [15:32:39] I know how to get stuff in orbit and all that junk the issue for me is getting refuel stations and landers all that is like foreign to me [16:02:48] Alien: But that thing contains bromelain, itll destroy your bodys proteins! [16:02:48] Human: Not if I digest the bromelain first. [16:02:48] Alien: Humans are insane! [16:02:54] Refueling stations are basically just a matter of load-lifting. As much delta-v as you can get combined with the lightest load possible. Since fuel is heavy, you have to save the mass in other places - orbital fuel depots basically just need a dock, a fuel tank, and maybe a probe core + electricity. [16:03:21] Fluburtur: source? [16:03:27] tumblr [16:03:37] Not if I digest it first is an official human motto, in close competition with not if I pet it first. [16:03:46] TIL about https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords [16:03:47] what is bromelain? [16:04:04] something bad I guess [16:04:14] An enzyme in pineapples. [16:04:16] it's pineapple juice [16:04:26] but well humans regularly put toxic crap in their food and call it spice so [16:04:40] Fluburtur: tasty, tasty toxins [16:04:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromelain [16:04:48] Toxic to insects, anyway. [16:04:54] I'm not sure if the pineapple-digests-you thing is true,b ut it woulkdn't surprise me. [16:04:57] also some actively try to slightly poison their brain because it feels funny [16:05:19] Some of us have degrees in making that stuff. :-) [16:05:44] In all seriousness, humans have a thing about slightly hurting themselves to take advantage of the body's responses to being hurt. [16:05:45] degree in making LSD? [16:05:52] Speaking of pineapple, you'll like this picture Fluburtur : http://www.termcoord.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ananas.jpg [16:05:56] I have a fermentation science degree that needs to be framed. [16:06:08] lmao [16:06:17] pinafal what in hell [16:06:56] 'Apple' is from the proto-indo-europeen word for 'fruit' [16:07:38] Mathuin: wow... where did you get that degree? [16:07:43] And can I get one? [16:09:18] Speaking of fermentation: https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/11/13/1384357549556/Beer.png [16:10:10] ve2dmn: http://oregonstate.edu/foodsci/fermentation-science-option [16:10:10] eyah so you basically need to know 3 words to get drunk in all of europe [16:10:19] "bir" "pivo" "olu" [16:10:27] yup [16:10:51] I know how to order a beer in poland in two words too [16:11:55] just kick the door down and yell "PIVO KURVA" [16:12:03] or whoever it's properlly written [16:12:22] hehe i thougth there wa ssa rule against profanity [16:12:26] Mathuin: what can you tell me if I say that I have trouble digesting Beer, Yogourt and bread? [16:12:26] When I was in Ireland, we went out drinking with some Polish folks. There were potato spirits involved. I don't quite remember how the evening ended. [16:12:40] heh [16:12:52] I have both polish and irish friends [16:12:55] ve2dmn: there's actually someone in my department working with someone else in the health side of the school on that. I will ask. [16:13:06] they were arguing over which was the most drunk all the time [16:13:08] I'm half-Irish (dual citizen), and these folks were hard-core. [16:13:14] :D [16:13:27] so I want to go have a drink with them [16:13:43] I should add that it takes me two and a half beers to be drunk so [16:14:26] I can drink plenty of rhum, vodka and the like, but beer give me stokach acid or something similar [16:14:53] the only time I was suck was after drinking two liters of beer and six shots of rum I think [16:15:01] I'm not exactly sure what's wrong with me [16:15:04] im not sure because I don't remember anything after that [16:15:21] So distilled spirits are okay, but beer/wine/bread/yogurt/kefir/whatever are not [16:15:30] Mathuin: pretty much [16:15:41] yeast stuff? [16:15:47] probably.... [16:15:48] Byproducts, probably. [16:16:02] make distilled beer then [16:16:05] The only comparable nightmare I might have would be finding out I was allergic to bacon. [16:16:06] It usually culminates in a headache [16:16:39] https://78.media.tumblr.com/8669f48366c018c7d56b82d4a380ccba/tumblr_inline_opwmnkkJqW1qi44kx_540.png [16:16:58] no shadow. spooly [16:17:15] at noon [16:17:32] The cable's shadow supports that assertion. [16:18:01] look at that avocado https://78.media.tumblr.com/edacd79939d679eb286d46ceef80b2c8/tumblr_p47ugxNr2W1togqnyo1_500.jpg [16:18:14] hehe that face [16:18:40] this is still the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds [16:18:40] YouTube - Worlds Cutest Frog - Desert Rain Frog [16:19:05] it go beep boop [16:20:24] https://78.media.tumblr.com/d728f9a103c096418d345d1b7e9691c6/tumblr_onql1lct8l1uaturvo2_540.jpg [16:32:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjAcyTXRunY [16:32:08] YouTube - Bird Mimics Chainsaw, Car Alarm and More | World's Weirdest [16:44:06] btw, that 'perfect' lack of shadow happens for just a few minutes: The angle must be perfect [16:44:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOX3AO2FjE [16:44:28] YouTube - This phenomenon only happens in Hawaii . . . and Cuba & Nigeria & Indonesia & Peru & Sudan & Laos && [16:51:09] ve2dmn: one could calculate the duration of the shadow knowing the math we (probably) all know to play this silly game. :-) [16:51:28] +1 [16:55:48] THIS is why I would really like an electric car: https://i.cbc.ca/1.4457506.1513735331!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/hydro-prices.jpg?imwidth=720 [16:57:08] Because screw Toronto, right? [16:57:10] :-) [16:57:24] (how can someplace so close to Niagara Falls have such bad prices?) [17:00:40] Mathuin: the TL;DR: politics [17:01:04] And Niagara Falls itself is not that big of an energy production [17:01:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:01:54] This picture is from an article about bitcoins mining [17:02:25] Well of course. If there's a story in the past 18 months about video cards or electricity, that's what it's really about. [17:03:03] Or in the case of Ontario, politics [17:03:37] One reason Oregon has a ton of datacenters is our low cost of electricity. [17:03:54] Same. Plus the cost of cooling [17:05:08] The europeen friends I know taught I was joking when I saw I had electrical heating for the winter [17:06:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:06:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:11:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:28:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:30:08] hehe youtube offered me an airbus helicopters (formerely eurocopter) video. the video was cool, but i know that they were responsible for the trainwreck called GA. they cant deceive me [17:40:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:01:36] wow it's probably been months since i've checked IRC [18:04:45] That is unforgivable. [18:04:54] inconceivable :) [18:05:11] Holy logs. [18:05:42] uh I was looking at custom firmware for my radio and it seems a lot ha sbeen done since I last checked [18:06:08] because today even radios need computers [18:06:19] well yeah this is a rc radio [18:06:27] how are you supposed to do without a computer [18:06:29] My new RPi is for my ham radio. [18:06:34] it isn't 1992 anymore [18:06:36] analog signals? [18:06:45] would work fin [18:06:45] e [18:06:51] nah [18:06:58] 2.4ghz digital [18:07:07] this way there is telemtry to know packet loss and stuff [18:07:12] and get a range estimate [18:14:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:26:39] hallo jemand hier im leerem Raum? [18:30:58] blink [18:32:56] hah [18:33:06] obviously we were not here fast enough [18:33:26] hmmm.] [18:34:28] Google Translate says that was German. "hello someone here in the empty room" [18:40:14] and you see, the bot failed again [18:40:21] with the automatic helly [18:40:22] o [18:42:25] It got tripped by the a [18:42:40] It really should be multi-lingual :-) [18:54:47] Mathuin: what are you doing with that rPI? [18:55:00] I was thinking of building a Flight-aware box with one [18:57:02] It's going to drive the Icom, for digital modes and logging, with eventual expansion to my old weather satellite radio once I get a proper QFH built again. [18:57:30] nice. I don't have a proper radio anymore, so I was curious [18:58:40] With the baby I had to stop playign radio games when my shack got shut down. [18:58:48] Rebuilding it I realized the computer I was using was lame. :-) [18:59:15] When it died lats week, I bought a RPi. I'll get a power supply today, and hopefully be logging weather faxs and PSK31 communications again. [19:00:44] Nice. I have a pile of OrangePi that I got for cheap for a project which never happened [19:01:10] I have an Arduino around here that was supposed to be a prototype for blinky lights for the wedding. We ended up buying premade blinky lights instead. :-) [19:03:19] I wanted to make cheap NAS boxes in old radio, but I have to hack a power supply to get 5V and 12V power for the SATA drives... [19:03:31] ...or use smaller laptop drives [19:04:04] I got tired of hacking that stuff. :-( [19:04:16] It would be easy to do with Molex-to-data adaptors... but I heard too many horror stories [19:04:59] You got a baby, I got depression [19:05:03] In the general case, if I have two consumer/commodity parts I want to join, there's almost always a commodity interface that will be better and more reliable than what I can hack together. [19:05:09] Hey man, nobody says you can't have *both*. [19:05:13] :-) [19:08:37] :/ [19:09:31] Even if they're using Unique Serial Bus interfaces? [19:10:32] UmbralRaptop: like? [19:11:25] ve2dmn: I'm just whining about the half-dozen+ USB connectors, and that it's not safe to plug a pair of USB-C devices together. [19:11:38] *sigh* [19:12:01] USB-C was to be a universal connector. Instead it's a universal headache [19:12:13] .nextlaunch [19:13:44] Fluburtur: http://nextrocket.space/ [19:13:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:13:50] yeah [19:13:57] guess I messed up the command [19:13:59] Evening, Gentlemen. [19:14:04] .nextlaunch [19:14:09] about 3 hours until launch [19:14:18] so I should be able to watch it [19:14:37] Tomorrow's SpaceX says Full Thrust (80%). Are they recovering bits or not? [19:14:47] I don't think [19:14:54] probably more experimental stuff [19:15:04] that's an older rocket so I guess they don't mind getting rid of it [19:15:44] https://78.media.tumblr.com/3a509858b66dae3dcdd1a5ee8423b545/tumblr_nxpv7pD2yt1s9v1vvo1_540.png [19:16:37] Woo tourist Moon flyby by Christmas perhaps. All that science, Elon! [19:17:21] he confused his ksp missions and his real ones [19:17:23] Mathuin: They just need to add a Gravioli detector to get even MORE science [19:17:35] Maybe he hasn't unlocked that tech yet [19:18:10] Elon? Lacking technology? [19:18:29] He missed his chance on Duna tech by blowing the orbit. [19:21:52] still more science then https://twitter.com/LeonMuss4Earth [19:24:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:25:10] What happens when 2 Supernovy collide? [19:26:43] Do we get a Meganovy? an Ultranovy? and in that case, is the big bang a Uninovy? [19:26:47] lol leon muss, staying on earth [19:28:06] "The US remains the only industrialized country that has not adopted the metric system as its official system of measurement." ...well, guys? :D [19:28:28] I thought the adopted it but don't do anything [19:28:33] ^ [19:28:34] which isn't much better actually [19:28:43] On paper, the US is Metric [19:28:48] hehe no [19:28:56] Seriously, our Imperial crap is _defined_ in terms of metric crap. [19:28:58] On paper, US is torn between metric and imperial [19:28:58] Legally. [19:29:05] ^ [19:29:10] yes, they are defined [19:29:17] Also, Mars probe was torn too :P [19:29:21] Hee! [19:29:23] that way they dont have to keep up the infrastructure [19:29:27] that defiens these [19:29:33] Mathuin: it's still 100% crap. [19:29:36] at least they don't use different units of time [19:29:45] Of course, but it's *metric* tons of crap. [19:29:49] Just different units of craps [19:29:50] which is the cause of the ispo being in seconds [19:30:01] it would be so much less confusing without the useless conversion [19:30:09] "What's the time? 3/10 of a day!" [19:30:18] hah, which day [19:30:22] at least metric is based on the thing known as science [19:30:35] in reality the units are arbitrary [19:30:39] Althego, they'd asked for time of day, not date :P [19:30:41] APlayer: that was the werirdest idea. Metric hours... [19:30:53] the good thing in si is the prefixees [19:30:56] French, right? [19:30:58] Well, metric seconds are a thing... [19:31:03] Mathuin: even worse. Paris [19:31:08] hehe [19:31:35] aiee [19:31:46] aiueo [19:31:56] hoho [19:32:01] yolo [19:32:13] systčme standard I think it is called [19:32:18] but there is something else too [19:32:50] As for the tourist Moon flyby by Christmas... I don't want to be the pessimist, but hey, Falcon Heavy was supposed to be by 2013... [19:32:59] hehe [19:33:10] i am quite sure that the current plans prevent the tourist mission [19:33:19] the falcon heavy will not be human rated [19:33:19] Action: UmbralRaptop stares at DSE-alpha circa 2005. [19:33:28] Sure, it will happen, but I bet money it won't happen by Christmas [19:33:29] falcon 9 is not enough [19:33:44] so dragon 2 alone is not doing that [19:33:55] have to wait until bfr [19:34:07] Althego: What if you /actually/ launch three Falcon 9s? [19:34:32] 2 cargo dragons and a crew one [19:34:44] Should be enough for Moon missions, I guess [19:34:50] and how would that work? it is like having 9 women on the job will not result in a baby in 1 month [19:34:58] :D [19:35:03] you would still need ot rendezvous in earth orbit [19:35:12] Rendezvous, sure [19:35:19] They did it already [19:35:31] Definitely doable for Elon :D [19:35:57] around 22 t to leo [19:36:18] A dragon weighs, uh, 9 tons, IIRC? [19:36:20] there could be a service module, a tank and a human capsule [19:36:23] combine the three [19:36:31] it could go to the moon [19:36:36] With the powers combined.... [19:36:47] Well, 22 tons won't get two people on a Mun free return [19:36:51] i am captain elon [19:36:58] But 44 tons could do it [19:37:01] but 3 tiems 22 tons [19:37:06] nah launch a falcon super heavy with 4 boosters and two upper stages [19:37:14] hehe [19:37:16] the kerbal way [19:37:17] Althego: I just snorted my coffee from the mental image [19:37:29] Fluburtur: And then go KSP and drop all that on the KSC as a cluster bomb [19:37:46] still the cyborg centaur elon musk with rocket hooves on the muskwatch intro is the best [19:37:50] Action: APlayer refunds ve2dmns coffee [19:38:28] It's crappy office coffee [19:38:46] Action: APlayer refunds ve2dmns crappy office coffee [19:39:30] Tesla! Falcon! Solar! "By your powers combined, I am captain Elon!" [19:39:41] Also, PayPal [19:39:49] didn't he sell that? [19:40:17] But he still founded it [19:40:28] Fou-unded, I guess [19:40:39]