[00:18:29] https://imgur.com/gallery/MgwN0h5 [00:18:29] https://i.imgur.com/Q27jS25.png [00:24:20] infinity to infinity lol [00:24:29] in such scale it would always show flat line [00:28:05] I know I have a beefy computer, but THIS is ridiculous [00:31:36] didn't even know of the performance thing.. [00:33:15] Mm [00:40:32] hah [00:45:29] Does the expansion fix any of the bugs? [00:45:37] Action: CandyAngel is super annoyed with KSP bugs right now [00:46:21] The game decided to change my satellite that was orbiting Kerbin @ whatever m/s to Orbiting the Mun at 0 m/s [00:50:34] i would be massively annoyed if i needed an expansion to fix core game bugs [00:50:39] it does not. Just more parts, the scenarios, etc [00:50:52] also, what Eddi|zuHause typed [00:52:04] I think it fixes bugs in the expansion content, though. [00:54:02] Well, yes [01:01:51] https://streamable.com/77nhk [01:59:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:19:05] Can you make the 1.4 an update on Google play? [02:20:36] & [02:20:44] &&& [02:21:15] 14 seconds, thats a record! [02:21:23] &&&&&&&&& [02:21:23] average is 2.43 seconds [02:24:40] That'slotta dots [02:24:49] & [02:27:11] ,,,,,, [02:27:17] squished dots [02:28:21] ... [02:28:35] 777 [02:29:40] 0.o [02:30:12] Unicode is Fun! [02:30:32] "we descended into the twin hells of spreadsheets and spherical trigonometry" -- Scott Manley [02:30:55] mm... math [02:31:14] numbers.. most universal language [03:16:02] hmm, non sequitur - search for planet 9 there goes 2 hours of my time [03:16:17] this day didnt even start and gets shorter all the time [03:16:55] Sadly no one's found it yet [03:20:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:46:04] ah it is already september [03:46:08] sad [03:48:19] It is always September [03:59:27] it is september it are always september [03:59:38] hacky quote from 1984 [04:50:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:19:31] https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-reportedly-became-angry-165900800.html - I think Elon needs a vacation. [05:19:58] how things are in tesla, he cant [05:24:47] he started the electric car revolution, but probably the company is going to fail [05:34:29] "I don't see how this could hurt me" he dont care about others [05:42:53] meanwhile it's business time is predicted to launch in october [05:43:03] will it ever launch [05:43:16] is rocket lab ltd failing too? [05:43:20] launch, sure. on time? dunno [05:43:41] hes not planning to make profit on his space program [05:43:56] he can afford lossy company as hes getting so much money from amazon. [05:44:12] amazon? you mean bezos? that is blue origin [05:44:20] another thing completely [05:44:28] but they look like spacex copycats [05:44:35] bah yes [05:44:40] paypal [05:45:10] it's business time is on the electron, launched from new zealand [05:45:25] and they have been pushing it for what, half a year now? [05:45:38] anyway he outright stated that he dont expect spacex to be profitable at all. he wants it to work on it research so on [05:45:45] profit later maybe [05:46:38] cant find anything on business time [05:47:10] https://www.rocketlabusa.com/news/updates/its-business-time-at-rocket-lab/ [05:47:55] ah interesting [05:48:06] you cant not know about electron [05:50:09] well i didnt lol [05:50:31] nobody knowlede is perfect [05:51:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(rocket) [05:51:14] lol the launch statistics chart [05:51:50] i didnt know they had this many booked already [05:53:19] interesting that 2019 is much shorter [06:21:37] Tesla can die in flames and Musk will STILL be making tons of cash with SpaceX. [07:19:50] Thank you KER for being completely useless [07:20:01] "Min Safe Alt 7,000.0m" [07:20:08] > slams into a mountain at 8.2 km [07:21:55] Thanks for costing me a 60,000 fund probe [07:30:30] What does kerbalmaps say? [07:30:42] Kerbalmaps says precisely dingle [07:30:49] Modded body [07:48:07] Well, there it is. [09:49:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:22:29] heyayay, what's going on? [10:51:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:39:45] hmmm, this is interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G_1uy_7B5w [11:39:46] YouTube - Canon RC-250 Xap Shot: 1988 Video Floppy Disk Camera! [11:54:21] hello [11:55:28] nobody likes automatic replies. silly bod doesnt help [11:55:32] bot [11:56:00] I have one question [11:56:59] what you need to buy or do to have this ball that you can do maneuvers in orbit [11:57:44] ball? the spherical cabin? [11:58:00] that looks like vostok? [12:00:59] the ball that appears on the blue line in the space around the kerbin and when you click it you can add a maneuver. Blue ball [12:01:22] ah the maneuver node? [12:01:41] yes [12:01:50] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Maneuver_node [12:01:58] tracking station and mission control upgrade [12:02:41] oh thanks bro [12:02:43] but it is possible to go to the mun without it [12:03:03] the trick is to start burning when the mun rises in front of you as you orbit kerbin [12:03:35] in fact i make it a point in career to go to the mun without those upgrades [12:03:39] fhfhfhj [12:03:45] ok [12:03:49] hehe [12:04:20] finally ssomething happened [12:04:22] "Benjamin Franklin once ran Bat Boy over with his car to try and kill Bat Boy, but he sadly survived." reading the jerma wiki is fun [12:04:50] that sentence contains no meaning for me [12:04:56] https://jerma-lore.wikia.com/wiki/Bat_Boy [12:06:15] i have to cut my hair [12:06:51] buzzer. but not 4625 kHz [12:10:35] if you do the calculations yourself you can go to the mun without the map mode [12:13:27] uh, I still need a name for ym rc planes company [12:13:28] any ideas? [12:50:47] ym? [12:50:53] my [12:51:48] call it ťw [12:51:53] which is my upside down [12:52:02] or almsot [12:52:39] hp once had a sub company called dy, because it was hp upside down :) [12:53:01] lmao [12:53:28] HP spun off a small company, Dynac, to specialize in digital equipment. The name was picked so that the HP logo "hp" could be turned upside down to be a reverse reflect image of the logo "dy" of the new company. [13:22:45] https://78.media.tumblr.com/084a0955caf009ddb6cca4c812e007e7/tumblr_pced9tSjpK1vnckjko1_540.jpg [13:43:16] Someone mentioned 1.5. steam installed 1.4.5. [13:44:03] I don't have the corrugated command pod. [13:46:10] 1.5 doesnt even have a releaserdate yet [13:59:56] ic [14:37:55] https://youtu.be/5MISuVItKgo [14:37:56] YouTube - Circuit board blasted with 100000 volts gives amazing effect! [16:13:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/485482232010506240/Sequence_01.Image_fixe005.png [16:15:56] i saw that video already [16:18:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8knRvUywo [16:18:38] YouTube - Why Rocket Exhausts Look The Way They Do [16:19:19] didnt se that yet [16:20:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/485484052871249920/Sequence_01.Image_fixe014.png [16:23:53] Looks even better now [16:23:53] :D [16:23:58] yeah the nose art is nice [16:24:05] also being able to fly it correctly helps [16:27:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:38:41] less crash, moar fly? [16:38:47] yeah [16:39:06] and I managed to powerslide land it on a field trail [16:39:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/485488928317505536/Sequence_01.Image_fixe029.png [16:41:05] Action: Deddly looks at fuel tanks on this ship. Yeah... Fluburtur, refuelling 150k units of fuel by plane... not going to happen :P [16:41:15] heh [16:41:18] hehe [16:41:52] So far I've been going for more than 7 hours and still have 135k fuel remaining [16:42:07] I also have a very, very long way to go [16:42:22] yeah the path I made is rather long [16:42:52] I'm starting to doubt my guesstimation [16:43:17] Fluburtur, on your map here https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/124971-the-kerbin-submarine-circumnavigation-challenge/& [16:43:34] yeah [16:43:44] Follow the path from KSC in the direction the arrows are facing [16:43:51] yeah [16:43:55] to the west [16:44:01] I'm right now... about half way between the first pair of arrows [16:44:23] so south of the desert? [16:44:30] Passing the sand-coloured peninsula [16:44:44] you are catching up to my record fairly quick [16:44:56] I stopped at the little green peninsula just after [16:45:14] F3 says I've covered nearly 200 km [16:45:24] That's not much... [16:45:40] oh you mean you are south of the ksc continent [16:45:42] Oh right, so I'll pass you quite soon [16:45:54] ? [16:46:06] I had a copy of the map on which I drawn where I was, would help [16:46:17] racing against a ghost car. or ghost ship [16:46:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/485490651811807242/bordel2.png [16:46:43] that's about 1200km [16:46:56] Yeah OK, so I'm almost at that point [16:47:08] I mean, I will be soon. [16:47:34] I had a little captain's log on which I wrote my distance and time between each refueling [16:47:48] So I have 135k fuel remaining from 152k maximum [16:48:12] I'm wondering how far that 135k will get me [16:48:43] I might have to lower speed, but I'm already only going 25 m/s at 1/3 throttle [16:50:25] https://imgur.com/a/bEQW0 [16:51:04] I stopped doing the challenge not long before I built the turbo blender [16:51:47] Pretty cool. [16:51:47] well this means I will have to restart the challenge if I want to keep my record [16:52:06] hehe [16:52:08] Well yeah, but we're in different categories [16:52:12] I modernized my submarine, same basica architecture but optimized a bit [16:53:31] OK I'm making an executive decision to slow down to 1/6th throttle [16:53:48] yeah need to find the best fuel use per distance [16:54:14] The slower the better, when it comes to boats [16:54:43] unless you can rise above the water [16:55:19] when it comes to displacement-hulled* boats [16:55:43] yeah just go hydroplanning and you good [16:56:03] Hydroplaning a ship this size... nah [16:57:44] OK... so dropping from 1/3 to 1/6 halved my fuel use, of course, whilst losing 28% of my speed [16:58:07] That should extend my range considerablt [16:58:11] considerably [16:58:15] Lol. [17:08:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/485496078934867968/photo_3.jpg [17:08:47] hehe [17:08:51] these historical photos [17:09:01] from 1939 [17:09:14] in decades it will be obvious that they are old, because they are 2d only :) [17:09:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/485496507500331009/Sequence_01.Image_fixe015.png [17:19:54] Fluburtur, I think my "calculations" were off because I didn't realise what kind of map projection that was [17:20:08] heh [17:20:36] I used the f3 menu myself but even then, the results between both distabce calculation methods and distance between my refueling pods wasn't the same [17:20:40] It's distorted towards the poles, but not nearly as much as I was expecting [17:20:53] but it was still kinda easy to count because my sub needed refueling every 100km [17:21:36] At this stage I'm worried that I might not get back to the same longitude after the "heart" section [17:21:56] I'm pretty sure I can get all the way around that "heart" but after that... I'll be low on fuel [17:22:10] Who knows how far I'll get. This is what makes it fun :) [17:25:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:38:40] yo peoples, im in the process of creating my own company witht he goal of making and selling rc planes so asnwer that poll if you can https://goo.gl/forms/dxtXoCT38Ox1Fpra2 [17:41:09] Nice that you actually decided to go for it, Fluburtur [17:42:18] I can only hope it will work out [17:43:21] Start slow, be patient. Have it as a hobby that earns a little money to start with, and gradually build it up until you're at a level you're satisfied with [17:45:10] The "how much would you pay for the kit" is unclear, because there are 2 kit versions [17:45:29] read again [17:45:37] one has electrnics the other has not [17:45:43] Yes [17:45:46] but consider it is without [17:45:52] So which kit is the question further down referring to.. [17:46:41] without electronics [17:46:43] I changed that [17:48:43] Might also want to include a currency on the "how much would you pay" [17:49:26] euros or dollars [17:49:39] euros would be more convenient to me but those are close enough [17:50:40] yes without the currency it is useless to put numbers there [18:03:22] Yeah I mean I could have put Swedish Kronor :) [18:03:35] lmao [18:03:46] peoples seem to understand to use dollars as a reference [18:06:25] Actually... I should pay you in Venezuelan bolivars. [18:09:05] hehehe [18:09:50] there is syntesized voice in win 10 for hungarian. "microsoft szabolcs" [18:11:37] Fluburtur, I'll happily pay you a million for a ready-made one. For real [18:11:57] k just wait [18:12:06] im taking a screenshot of that btw [18:12:21] 1 million venezuelan bolivars [18:12:24] Just make sure you get my previous line in that screenshot [18:12:51] quite cheap [18:13:04] less than 4 euros :) [18:13:11] 80000% inflation [18:13:12] nice [18:13:53] 3.46Ź [18:14:09] I'll ask you for 43 billions then [18:15:00] hehe [18:18:16] Nono, you agreed already [18:18:31] Fluburtur, I'll happily pay you a million for a ready-made one. For real [18:18:31] k just wait [18:18:37] I'll wait [18:18:43] luckily this is not a binding agreement [18:18:45] well you didn't specify which currency either [18:18:54] I can just edit whatever in there [18:18:54] yes he did [18:19:00] in the previous line [18:19:02] so it will be british pounds [18:40:29] Whoa cool KSP channel, didn't know there was one :D [18:40:51] actual conversation may vary [18:41:05] we rarely talk about ksp [18:41:27] more like, Scott's hairstlye and crap [18:41:32] lol [18:41:40] lol [18:41:42] It's the one true hairstyle [18:41:43] we dont talk about that, he doesnt even have hair [18:42:41] If there's actually conversation present it's an anomaly among many channels these days it seems [18:43:06] at least there is something sometimes here [18:43:37] the discord is unbearably spamming though [18:49:53] It seems a lot of the stuff I find these days and forums regarding anything KSP is somewhat older, a lot of forums don't seem to be so current even the wikis I've found seem largely geared for earlier versions of ksp, I guess it's just nice to find a place where people are still actively playing and talking about the game if even if it's not much [18:54:16] There's no official discord channel [18:54:32] Also, hi KillSwitch! [18:54:37] yo [18:54:50] Howdy Deddly [18:54:57] ya.. sometimse I find when I search for some things, a lot of it tends to be a bit dated. [18:55:21] even this is barely official [18:55:22] in name only [18:55:28] It's true that it can be quiet in here, but contrary to what these guys say, there is actually a fair amount of KSP talk when there is somethiing to say :P [18:55:48] Althego, this is the official KSP channel, not in name only [18:55:53] Yeah, it's like coming up on Scott Manly videos from early pre 1.0 KSP days and wondering if any of it still even holds remotely accurate these days [18:55:55] Just bring something up, sure couple of people wouldn't having something to talk about [18:56:16] Squad/TakeTwo/Private Division/whoever they are these days own this channel [18:56:21] Deddly: cant convince me until a dev holds regular sessions every week [18:56:29] Action: UmbralRaptor should probably look over some of the wiki guides [18:56:30] <-currently checking out to see how much his mis-match antenna can pickup satellite stuff on 2m band [18:56:40] Althego, devs don't even do that on the forum [18:56:53] JPLRepo might say something here from time to time, though [18:56:57] Althego: I think Harv was in here like once ever. =\ [18:56:58] or do anything [18:57:16] scott used to hang out here and talk once every 3 months [18:57:19] Action: Deddly away for a bit [18:57:46] for starts I am trying to build something capable of Minmus landing [18:58:07] that is around the easiest landing you could have [18:58:19] ack.. shut my radio client down just as one of hte danish sats was blurpting out. oh well [18:58:22] I did a flyby which I was surprised was as easy as it was to get from mun to minmus [18:58:45] I just remember having tried a landing on mun and it was not so easy for me to do with a prebuilt lander [18:59:11] sigh... I should probably work on video for a test base I was going to do last week or so ago [18:59:20] now I am trying to build it myself in career mode with not a ton of the r&d science tree unlocked [19:01:00] I have almost all of the first 5 tiers unlocked but no more...only missing a few things from the 5th, I think the small rocket engines will be key [19:01:00] KillSwitch: the good news is that aside from the slight orbital inclination, Minmus is easier. [19:01:24] @Umbral, that's what I've heard and why I'm trying it [19:01:47] Much lower gravity, right [19:02:30] also totally smooth plains [19:02:45] Orbital inclination was no problem, I was surprised I remembered about ascending and descending nodes and all that, slight burn was easy enough to bring me around Minmus [19:03:22] Pretty light delta v requirements for landing and return? [19:04:07] Yeah, like 300-400 m/s instead of 900 m/s. [19:04:51] per the channel /topic: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png [19:05:21] Yeah, I think I had that one already, been a while since I looked at it but it is a good reference to have [19:06:15] Delta v for me was always an after thought, I definitely understand it and as I get more into the game I am becoming ever more forced to consider it sooner rather than later in my designs lol [19:06:32] :D [19:07:55] Still I'd be lying if I said it makes complete sense to me, between that and TWR I'm pretty well confounded on making really good fuel efficient designs [19:08:09] while minmus might be easier... sure takes a bit of time to get out there and back [19:08:27] JVFoxy, boy aint that the truth [19:08:28] not that kerbals mind.. some even spend years stuck in a spacesuit just floating about on their own :\ [19:08:49] i usually go to minmus on an escape trajectory [19:08:56] shaves days off [19:09:02] with bit of delta v [19:09:37] I think I clocked my minmus flyby at taking like 90 days but then it was even more after I got back was worried about my reentry speed and had to wait for like a dozen Kerbin aerobrake orbits [19:09:39] I do'nt mind the mun.. [19:09:55] figured.. if I can land and return from mun, same stuff can be used to do a minmus run [19:12:03] Wonder what the longest trip in KSP would take like going out to Eeloo and back [19:12:21] that's gotta be a seriously stupidly long trip [19:12:34] and like sitting on the fast forward warp [19:12:38] going to moho is harder and faster. going to eeloo is just slower [19:12:50] the game treally needs one higehr warp factor [19:13:16] KillSwitch about 4.5 years one way on Hoffman transfer [19:13:36] as much as it's come along and for all the good things that have been added and fixed I was surprised at some of how buggy it still is [19:14:18] mainly the VAB/SH [19:14:29] parts still can glitch together [19:14:51] I couldn't merge a couple spacecraft today, not sure why [19:15:18] be happy that there is a merge [19:15:19] somethings are still really more painful to do and put together than they should be [19:15:23] lot more usable than the subassembly [19:15:29] although that may work a bit better [19:16:02] not sure about that, haven't used that function [19:16:26] that is last resort if the merge doesnt work [19:16:30] needs lot more clicking and dragging [19:17:06] hmm, my aircraft still isn't complex enough that if worse comes to worst that I can't just go and hack something together...still.. [19:17:28] Would be nice to know how to avoid that if needed [19:17:44] i need to get back to the packed wing design and finally get it to laythe [19:19:04] Like my rocket top called Just the Tip, want to obviously reuse that whole part on various rockets as a top stage (capsule, science jr, parachutes and thermal fairing) [19:19:53] Will be wild when I finally get out of the Kerbin SOI and start exploring other more interesting worlds [19:21:26] I think my minmus vehicle will be called Mincraft (I'm nothing if not original) [19:42:50] Is there a KSP Discord ? [19:43:26] Just out of curiosity [19:43:34] there is something [19:43:39] once soebody linked it [19:55:06] LANDING GEEEEAAAAAR NOOOOOOO [19:59:32] derp? [20:01:52] herpaderp [20:02:23] Trying my minmus landing now [20:02:53] just wondering what was wrong with landing gears [20:03:14] either exploding or jumping [20:03:36] Does it make sense to use a gravity assist from Mun to shoot towards Minmus or does it really depend on orbital alignment or what, all that usually confused me [20:03:44] not really [20:03:54] makes it a lot harder and you can win something like 30 m/s [20:04:18] Cool, will scrap that idea then [20:05:06] Delta V wont be a problem getting there for sure, shouldn't be getting back either but as I haven't tried a landing yet I should attempt to be somewhat efficient with fuel [20:06:14] just careful on coming back, you don't go too deep into the atmos if you going to use it to help slow down [20:06:32] yes, use heat shield, or 45-50 km periapsis [20:07:11] I saw a video, guy came in with nothing but a chair and a rocket lol [20:07:23] if it is light enough [20:07:32] slowes down fast and no overheat [20:08:03] and jumped into the water....nvm that in real life a 50m/s plunge into water would rip anyone to shreds lol [20:08:22] not very good in ksp either [20:08:41] you can survive lad crashes by the destroyed parts slowing you down. no such luck in water [20:09:02] Somehow I guess he survived it, didn't kill Jeb lol [20:09:25] even i had a minmus return where i crashed into th e water and the craft was destroyed, only the pilot survived [20:11:23] even with heatshield, can you still overload it before it runs out? [20:11:26] I had to do the math, that's hitting the water at 102mph [20:11:43] it would still be a rather hard surface at those speeds lol [20:12:10] i usually go with 1/3 or so ablator [20:12:13] still a lot to spare [20:12:40] think places like Duna it takes a lot more because of thinner atmos [20:12:47] I am still not so good at my reentries, best way to make sure to not have too much heat coming in? [20:13:12] Not sure where to position periapsis on reentry [20:13:26] after a while, you get a feeling for things [20:13:46] if I'm already in 75x75 orbit... I sent down to 36km [20:13:52] duna is a quasi no heatshield zone [20:14:05] almsot no heating [20:14:25] eve... take 2 normally for me. [20:14:31] It's like there's a middle layer sweet spot am I right on that? [20:14:32] inflatable or nothing [20:14:50] in eve, there is the middle layer you die instantly if you mess up spot :) [20:14:52] if you can spare the fuel, slowing down before hitting air can help a bit too but careful you don't also cause your periapsis to come down too low [20:14:55] Too low is like too much drag too fast and too high is really too much time spent burning up [20:16:34] So just inside the upper layers of atmosphere? 50-55k? [20:17:14] I take it it's also somewhat velocity specific so maybe a chart would be useful lol [20:17:39] ya careful with velocity... [20:17:55] usually coming in from higher orbit, means you'll be coming in faster by the time you get down low [20:18:00] becareful with that long pointy vector, you might hurt somebody [20:24:28] I thought about that too...I was wondering if it makes sense to try to plan landings around pe or ap of orbit... [20:25:50] bc velocity is always highest at pe does it make sense to try to use the ap of the orbit to land... I mean I guess by nature you will always land at the pe by definition [20:26:24] how would you land when you are the farthest away from land? [20:26:52] Right...in some funny way in my head what I was saying made sense [20:26:54] lamo [20:27:00] oh well [20:27:29] A really big ladder? >:-D [20:27:48] that reminds me, does the ladder drive still work? [20:28:04] i asked it a few days ago, nobody replied [20:28:45] this used to be a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnkFFdV4IY [20:28:45] YouTube - To the Mun and Back with a Ladder! | KSP [20:29:32] I know nothing of it [20:30:37] haha [20:30:40] That's rad [20:30:47] funky KSP physics ftw [20:30:56] I guess that's easy enough to test [20:31:18] I would be surprised if it still did but now I want to try that for sure lol [20:31:48] there was a newer one by scott (also called the manley drive) [20:31:58] Hmmm are those battery packs on the "craft"? [20:31:59] with different phantom force [20:32:04] yes [20:32:12]