[00:00:08] from http://www.aerospace.org/CORDSuploads/TiangongStoryboard.png [00:01:00] link to the dynamic version? [00:01:13] http://www.aerospace.org/cords/reentry-predictions/tiangong-1-reentry/ [00:01:52] where is the website with the tracking? [00:03:34] you mean http://heavens-above.com/GroundTrack.aspx ? [00:03:43] yes thank you [00:03:47] or http://stuffin.space/?intldes=2011-053A ? [00:03:52] uh iy is nearly at the reentry point [00:04:04] yeah. 30-45min [00:04:07] but it looks like the light conditions will make it a nice fireworks show [00:04:20] hope someone will be there to film that [00:05:10] probably some dude will go out there with a plane to get great footage [00:08:56] Skylab 2: Re-entry Boogaloo [00:09:13] Where's it coming down? South America? [00:09:23] The ISS will be on the same side of the earth.... but over Ontario [00:09:36] Chili-Argentina... [00:09:43] to the left of south america yes [00:10:10] Easter Island [00:10:13] would be appropriate :D [00:10:19] I think it still has one orbit to go [00:10:25] or maybe it is on the last one [00:10:30] im not sure from the picture [00:10:53] Supercheese: pretty close... but no [00:10:58] bummer [00:11:08] how far away will this be visible? [00:17:29] this won't be as emotionnal as the cassini funerals sadly [00:17:43] funny how I have no emotions most of the time but tiny stuff can get to me [00:18:22] Fluburtur: I don't care about 99.9999% of humans, but I can't get over the fact that Robin Williams is dead.. [00:18:47] I really liked Cassini. It's probably my favourite probe ever. [00:19:37] Supernovy: it had a viking funeral... or close to it, I guess [00:20:25] Do we have the last image the probe sent? [00:20:36] Huygens too. Saturn's a really neat planet and it's even cooler that we landed something on Titan. [00:22:23] Supernovy: my mind is blown everyday that we managed to land things on another planet [00:22:42] Mars? Or Venus? [00:23:13] 'yes' [00:23:16] http://i.imgur.com/VbKV9DF.jpg [00:23:36] 433 Eros! [00:24:18] https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/opportunity.png [00:30:28] http://www.aerospace.org/CORDSuploads/TiangongStoryboard.png [00:30:34] If I lose connection, it probably smashed into my house. [00:30:35] Timje to rentry: Overflow error [00:34:17] Update for 8 p.m. EDT: China's Tiangong-1 space station is expected to come crashing back to Earth on April 1 at 8:30 p.m. EDT (0030 GMT on April 2), give or take 1 hour 42 minutes, according to the latest forecast by the Aerospace Corp. [00:35:32] well that aerospace thing is next to useless now [00:35:49] yes [00:38:08] ok then http://www.aerospace.org/CORDSuploads/TiangongStoryboard.png [00:45:27] It could land in China.... or Syria [00:45:46] both places would be a real headache [00:46:53] well, it can't land here. so what do i care... :p [00:47:57] Spoken like a true human [00:49:46] no, but still, the probability is still quite heavily on the "it falls into water" side... [00:51:15] http://www.satflare.com/track.asp?q=37820#TOP [00:51:52] 503 [00:52:45] wow [00:55:12] ok, site works now [00:56:38] They all seem to show the same numbers... [00:56:45] no idea where they got it [01:08:34] so did burn up or not yet [01:08:41] buth websites shwo different stuff [01:08:45] no visual confirmation [01:08:54] radar? [01:09:13] That's what I'm trying to find [01:09:23] There was no radar over tha pacific [01:09:36] put one then [01:09:45] I need to go to bed [01:09:52] I want to know if it went poof [01:10:15] It will in the next 30-40min at the least [01:10:23] it's just that we have stale data [01:10:44] "Folks, this is the point when observer reports would be VERY useful. Just because you find a website that says TIangong is 150 km up right now doesn't mean it is, they are all running on stale data. Let us know if you see it - or if you should have seen it but didn't." [01:10:52] https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/980581490131177472 [01:10:53] <planet4589> Folks, this is the point when observer reports would be VERY useful. Just because you find a website that says TIan& https://t.co/7mKRQQAFC9 [01:11:21] aren't there observatories in that general area of the world? [01:11:30] like the one that is in argentina or something [01:11:52] probably, but I can't find reliable info from anyone [01:12:17] i don't see how an observatory would help track a space station [01:12:49] they're built to stare at the same spot of the sky for a while, they move way too slow to follow an object in LEO [01:13:09] the dudes around there probably know about a space station flying a bit too low [01:13:14] so they could go out with binocs [01:13:34] no navy vessels around? [01:13:50] quiet-ish part of the world I suppose [01:14:27] Accroding to the Chinese official news service it felt over the south Pacific [01:15:11] https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/980614409109278720 [01:15:12] <planet4589> China (CMSEO) reports reentry at exactly the time and place of their previous model estimate:& https://t.co/j8pqJ8qLdn [01:15:28] i'm assuming we would have heard by now if it fell down over inhabited territory [01:16:20] UPDATE: #JFSCC confirmed #Tiangong1 reentered the atmosphere over the southern Pacific Ocean [01:17:56] how long is it actually between "reentry" and actual touchdown? [01:18:39] assuming "reentry" is the phase where it gets incredibly hot [01:20:13] if aything touches down, several minutes I guess [01:21:12] it felt into the water... I doubt we'll hear more [01:22:44] anyways im going to bed [01:22:51] goodbye space metal tube [01:43:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:02:09] So it's down? [02:02:20] South pacific sounds like too good to be true. [02:02:27] That's the perfect spot for it. [02:02:48] Surely radar could confirm where it landed from other nations? [02:24:56] what's the system that handles communication between the pilot and copilot called? [02:36:03] a headset? [02:42:45] I think there's a specific name for the portion of the radio that lets the crew members talk [02:46:51] brb [02:49:27] Intercom? [03:19:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:47:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:09:37] ok you can change the topic back now [04:10:29] Ha, didn't even notice that. [04:10:48] the most craziest thing I did in kerbal was a part recovery contract on an old planet factory planet [04:11:03] I had this dinky little planet down between eve and Moho, iirc. [04:11:11] it had a thin tenuous atmosphere. [04:11:31] The part to recover spawned skimming ground level, through the atmosphere. [04:11:36] so tiangong-1 finally died [04:11:42] I took the contract, for some reason, [04:11:52] apparently fell into the ocean in the middle of nowhere [04:12:13] So when my grabber got down there it had this one-shot try to get the part because once the thing came into my physics bubble it would decay and come down... [04:12:37] so there I was chasing the thing through a canyon, with aero effects coming off my craft, going at orbital velocity. [04:12:59] I caught the sucker and burned hard to orbit. [04:30:27] sounds like project Azorian [04:31:09] except harder [05:05:36] Cooling is a pain... [05:06:07] Could be the MKS parts, but it doesn't ever seem to work for me [05:09:21] It seems like the only thing that works is fixing the part files [05:14:11] Nope, that didn't work either. [05:14:27] Can anyone explain how it's supposed to work? [06:05:29] ;seen badrocketsco [06:05:29] TheKosmonaut: badrocketsco (badrocketsco!~badrocket@58-36-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee) was last seen quitting in somewhere at 2018-03-17 14:38:16 +0000 [06:05:49] that is a long time [06:06:28] I have an Estonian flag on my counter at work [06:06:33] He'd be happy [06:07:00] magic [06:07:47] You have summoned me! [06:07:54] haha [06:08:08] you have your spies [06:08:26] Yup :D [06:08:29] What's up? [06:08:43] tiangong-1 is down :) [06:11:44] Dumb connection :( [06:11:58] non mobile rockets are not really useful [06:13:14] as i said, magic :) [06:17:51] Flag at the register at my work, badrocketsco https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OyVQMpEe/IMG_1561.JPG [06:17:52] spacex in 14 hours. sadly no landing and it will be too late for me to watch [06:18:40] Hmm. The topic is still upside down [06:18:53] I don't have the original. I hope Deddly fixes it [06:19:05] I still say we should have become the Orbiter official IRC channel [06:25:35] rules link doesn't work [06:25:37] TheKosmonaut: oh, hahah, nice. [06:25:44] TheKosmonaut: WE ARE TAKING OVER! [06:26:18] no rule in place saying one channel can be official for one thing [06:28:11] lol i have only now noticed the topic [06:28:48] BadMobileRockets, you know what do these three colors mean? [06:29:32] Is KSP running .NET 3.5 or 4.6? [06:30:22] Gasher[work]: blue is sky, black is dirt and white was the hope and dreams of estonian people [06:30:27] Or something along the lines [06:30:30] not really [06:31:26] blue is the sky where the planes of soviet occupants fly, black is the ground which soviet occupants thread and white are snow of siberia where those who say that would soon see [06:31:52] Hahah :D [06:34:07] Action: TheKosmonaut Soviet anthem intensifies [06:34:27] isnt it the tune of the current russian one? [06:36:43] Everything is the tune of the soviet anthem if you listen hard enough, komrade [06:37:03] Althego, yeah same tune and like third or fourth lyrics [06:46:25] hmm those URLs no longer work [06:47:10] TheKosmonaut, and here waht i have at work https://i.imgur.com/MwH8fYo.jpg [06:47:29] lol [06:48:37] in 5.2 hours, the date will be Monday, April 2 in every timezone on earth [06:48:49] we're already most of the way there [07:54:00] Gasher[work]: somehow the green color casting makes it even more depressingly Soviet [08:05:09] morning [08:07:43] star [08:23:04] TheKosmonaut, lol. my phone takes some time to adjust to lighting in there [09:05:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:15:13] well, what do you know, mk1-2 was rebalanced when it became mk1-3. instead of 4.12 t it is 2.72. more reasonable [09:19:25] that was one of my big issues with its balance, it was heavier than the 4 person cockpit which was better in every sense (except symmetry) [10:46:15] finally [10:46:37] is it just me or the 5m fairing really has gaps [10:46:50] looks like it should have 8 petals but it has only 6 [10:50:54] Althego: yes [10:51:26] the perfect non answer [10:51:35] yes [10:52:00] Are there any videos of the reentry of tiangong 1 yet? [10:52:14] there is one fake :) [10:52:26] fell into the pacific ocean, nobody was thre [10:53:22] a friend of mine was but he couldn't be bothered with filming [10:54:38] Althego: it seems you have this problem: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/173158-kerbal-space-program-142-is-live/&do=findComment&comment=3337677 [10:55:48] haha so the fairing is actually too big lol [10:56:19] at least they can fix this with the expansion only, no need to pupset modders [10:57:05] The 5 m fairing is also in the base game [10:57:22] https://78.media.tumblr.com/8f82ce16dce907a38b48a5e1c6312aad/tumblr_inline_p6imvgNd1n1u1ax71_540.png [10:57:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds4J42JsD7E [10:57:53] YouTube - Adorable Baby Dik-Dik Antelope Is Only 19cm Tall: ZooBorns [10:57:58] damn that is some proper star wars nonsense https://78.media.tumblr.com/9d85c66d88db8045eae496d809b57d71/tumblr_inline_p6inbkLpPd1u1ax71_540.png [11:00:44] some microsopic animals are weird too [11:01:28] a lot of stuff is weird [11:02:45] https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/18286 and that's my bug [11:03:21] hehe [11:03:34] who needs landing legs anyway [11:04:08] yeah. Nobody. I can land on the engines just fine. :D [11:04:11] https://78.media.tumblr.com/97400b5e67415d9e760836a2d0d12b49/tumblr_o0k3qcwCwm1upwzm1o1_540.jpg [11:05:29] https://78.media.tumblr.com/cc0e8a04384016e9c65b5246af680c68/tumblr_p3v220U0uJ1x4yxtpo1_540.jpg [11:10:41] Mat2ch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186946362474496/430323153986912266/DSC_8624.JPG [11:10:58] still looks like a valve [11:11:05] why [11:12:04] https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/9212bef9-8eb6-4ba5-b9af-ba2e0f963f2e/svn/homewerks-worldwide-gate-valves-p220-8-12-z-64_1000.jpg [11:12:18] I guess [11:12:28] this plane is named valvewheel now [11:15:02] Fluburtur: what is it? [11:15:13] landing gear for my plane [11:15:36] That's a huge tire then [11:15:47] it's a bush plane [11:15:57] made to work in grass and gravel and stuff [12:43:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:51:47] Hello everyone! [12:57:29] Alrighty there APlayer [12:58:18] Uh oh [12:58:22] Now he's on me [12:59:53] So, I was on skiing vacation. Now I am back. :-) [13:00:53] Hello, also, it's snowing [13:01:01] It's april 2nd and it's snowing [13:01:37] Trying to work out how to do this scansat probe [13:02:28] RhineBTV: No need for SCANsat probes, because the surface is not visible anyway. I mean, it's snowing [13:02:45] precipitation in ksp when [13:02:57] you get that in KSP2 [13:03:10] I downloaded ProbesPlus, and it's not bad, but I'm not sold on it [13:03:13] oh and i want my jet sounds back [13:03:28] Pretty sure you can just port over the old ones [13:03:38] Remember elsewhere people discussing it and someone did that [13:04:35] ProbesPlus is cool, but IMHO it crowds the parts list too much [13:05:49] looks like I haven't used much power in my 8 minutes flight the other day [13:05:55] will be going for 15 today [13:06:12] what are you, iron man? :) [13:07:21] not yet [13:07:25] more like foam man [13:07:43] at least build a foam balloon or something [13:08:02] if a flat earther can build a working rocket, you can do better [13:08:24] LOL [13:08:29] I have a rocket engine test planned for later today actually [13:08:30] "working" rocket [13:08:44] it flew several hundred meters up [13:08:53] More like worksploding rocket [13:09:16] not that it wouldnt be simpler to just get some airplane [13:09:24] Yeah, I'm gonna be trimming a lot of parts out of ProbesPlus [13:09:27] also screws keep falling from my gaming pc so I should invest in some nylstop nuts [13:09:39] It'll take a bit, but meh, I've done it so often for so many mods that I'm pretty quick at it [13:10:01] "screws keep falling from my (rocket)" - Jebediah, probably [13:10:20] hehe [13:10:24] I wanna try coming up with something using these bus parts as like an end cap and maybe using an interstage fairing to enclose it during launch or something [13:10:38] RhineBTV: There is a mod for that, it allows you to hide parts in-game [13:10:40] I've got this other service bay I added tweakscale to, from stock station parts redux or w/e [13:10:46] there was a mod with super cheap parts, made of cardboard and stuff [13:10:58] Yeah, I've got janitor's closet, but I just toss stuff into a different folder [13:11:00] Or even hard remove them on next KSP launch, if you want to speed up your KSP loading [13:11:06] Yeah, I just move em [13:11:46] Janitor's Closet, yes, that was it. IIRC it allows you to fully block parts from loading [13:12:13] And you could manually delete them from that folder if you really want [13:12:47] TIL I missed two KSP releases during my vacation [14:49:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:57:41] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZvtfvfX4AEBZ7p.jpg:large [14:58:02] hehe [14:58:07] now you can throw it away [14:59:03] it missed the Satelitte graveyard [15:00:45] too far north [15:03:36] I have a fairly decent internet (especially upload) capacity these days. Is there anything useful I can do with it? [15:04:37] Host a multiplayer game of some sort [15:04:49] like a permanent Minecraft game for friends [15:05:00] Host a Minecraft server and become a god [15:05:05] Hmm [15:05:13] Or a Long-play game of freeciv (please!) [15:05:19] Not a bad idea [15:05:34] I mean, you have forum power, IRC power, the only thing left is Minecraft power for ultimate internet lordship [15:05:37] I hadn't considered making a game server [15:06:05] For the uninitiated, a Long-play game of freeciv is one where you have 1 move per 24h... (unless everyone has already moved) [15:07:02] I used to play freeciv. I don't think I ever finished a game [15:07:13] same... [15:07:24] I never finished a game of simcity either [15:07:48] Or Openttd [15:07:56] or Outpost1 [15:08:07] I had one game with max number of players in the smallest map (one player vs AI) and I got totally smothered, but they left my capital city and never took it [15:08:26] i finished some games in simcity 2000 when the map was full [15:08:28] So all I could do was end turn, end turn, end turn [15:08:49] Is it even possible to finish sim city? [15:09:11] Depends... it's your own goal, so... [15:09:27] Simcity2000 had the 'Arco' sort of victory screen [15:09:55] I think I'd have dig out my old computer to run a Freeciv server, otherwise there would be too much downtime [15:10:12] Where the space-age Arco would go 'My planet needs me' [15:11:08] https://78.media.tumblr.com/651d3fffa59006034f38069cac6b4f35/tumblr_p4w4xllyuE1qjnhqgo1_540.jpg [15:12:31] hehe [15:13:41] well... I have the day off, so... Time to put Queen at max volume and clean up the house [15:14:17] no [15:14:20] don't clean [15:14:22] dance [15:14:49] Hi all [15:15:11] Hello [15:15:13] Hi Ircghost [15:15:20] Hello, ve2dmn ;) [15:15:50] Did KSP become more difficult in the last couple of builds? [15:16:01] not really [15:16:01] Define difficult [15:16:05] ^ [15:16:06] Hmm. More difficult in which aspect? [15:16:20] I cannot even achieve Orbit anymore with normal rockets.. I'm following this guide, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLXzYaREaCw to the letter. Not at all enough fuel for Orbit [15:16:24] no big changes since the atmosphere, which was long time ago [15:16:28] like 1.1 or soemthing [15:16:38] Yeah, I might have stopped somewhere around 1 [15:17:00] it is in fact easier to achieve orbit with the non soup atmosphere [15:17:05] well... the changes you are talking about are from more then a year ago [15:17:16] Hmm, I might just suck more than I remember haha [15:17:28] Does anyone have a good guide they can recommend? [15:17:38] Ircghost: We'll gladly help you :-) [15:17:53] That's appreciated! [15:18:07] Red5, who used to hang out here and does not anymore, taught me back then how to get to orbit properly [15:18:27] start turning shortly after launch, continue turning smoothly with around 45 deg after 10 km, until you reach 40 km where you should be almost horizontal [15:18:42] What version was the Soup-a-sphere again? [15:18:54] ve2dmn, up to 0.90 [15:19:11] i think there were some extensive engien changes around that time [15:19:18] Basically boils down to "Launch vertically, at 100 m/s turn eastward by 10 deg, keep at prograde and slightly adjust to reach 45 deg by 10 km altitude" [15:19:25] so 1st May, 2015 [15:20:04] Ircghost: I have 1700h in KSP and I still suck at it :D [15:20:12] haha! [15:20:39] But my launches are now automated with kOS and my own code [15:20:45] Aplayer, that's basically what I'm doing / following from above video. Although he is talking about being at 45 degrees at 15k [15:21:03] Ircghost, as you can see from the answers you have received so far, there is no single "right" way of doing it. It all depends on the craft you have built. But the basic idea is always the same: start turning early and gradually continue turning so you're going mostly sideways by the time you get high in the atmosphere. [15:21:37] Ircghost, also, turn in the right direction - East [15:21:51] the exact shape of the optimal ascent trajectory depends on your drag and twr [15:21:56] it is just a general guidline [15:22:16] but the flatter you go, the less gravity losses will you have, so you have to balance that with drag losses [15:22:28] generally in the current atmosphere gravity losses are worse than drag losses [15:22:49] Your launch should look something like this https://img.newatlas.com/spacex-pictorial-66.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=max&h=670&q=60&w=1000&s=9522367f84c7b1ae35c4a2b57f97a38e [15:22:56] hehe [15:23:01] exactly [15:23:29] Ircghost, so what exactly happens when you try that? [15:23:30] Scott has not made a video tutorial in quite some time, but there is one for KSP 1.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74m3qThOoU&list=PLYu7z3I8tdEkUeJRCh083UT-Lq5ZIKI75 [15:23:30] YouTube - Kerbal Space Program - Career Mode Guide For Beginners - Part 1 [15:23:35] back from flying [15:23:41] did 15 minutes as planned [15:23:52] I run out short of fuel at my AP burn [15:24:03] How much dV do you bring? [15:24:06] I have too little to do a full burn, about 6 seconds to little. Let alone get down again [15:24:20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLXzYaREaCw [15:24:20] YouTube - Guide to Kerbal Space Program...for Complete Beginners! - Part 4 [Orbit!] [15:24:22] this rocket [15:24:26] "Get down" is a burn of fractions of a second [15:25:00] Ircghost, do you have a screenshot of your craft? [15:25:30] Deddly, the easiest is too look at the link of YouTube. There is the entire vessel. I completely copied it [15:25:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:25:45] Plagiarism! [15:25:56] Ircghost, Where in the video should I be looking? It's more than an hour long :) [15:26:09] haha! I was getting a bit mental about my own builds, so I just wanted to copy one and check if it was me or the machine [15:26:31] Around 34:22 [15:26:35] sorry, didn't realize how long it was [15:27:14] Oh ok, I see the rocket [15:27:37] Hmm, looks unnecessarily low-tech for someone who's trying to learn the game [15:28:09] it is careeer guide [15:28:10] If you want to learn the mechanics of it, you can play in sandbox and use bigger fuel tanks and engines [15:28:11] Ircghost: Are you familiar with the concepts of TWR and delta-v? [15:28:30] Oops, he closed his browser [15:28:40] ho well [15:28:48] hehe [15:28:54] The answers were too intense to handle [15:28:59] Or KSP crashed his machine [15:29:24] my plane can almost climb vertical when there is some wind [15:29:37] He focused too much and the mental EMP messed with his machine [15:29:39] or the LHC collapse the world and we don't know yey [15:29:46] excuse, back again [15:29:55] Welcome back. Here's what you missed: [15:29:59] Well, at least we know it wasn't the LHC now [15:30:02] Let me try it with a burn at 10k [15:30:06] ok, so LHC didn't eat you [15:30:14] * Ircghost has quit (Quit: webchat.esper.net) [15:30:14] Oops, he closed his browser [15:30:14] ho well [15:30:14] hehe [15:30:14] The answers were too intense to handle [15:30:16] Or KSP crashed his machine [15:30:18] my plane can almost climb vertical when there is some wind [15:30:20] He focused too much and the mental EMP messed with his machine [15:30:22] or the LHC collapse the world and we don't know yey [15:30:24] * Ircghost (webchat@5072946C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) has joined [15:30:39] I'm glad to see I was missed so dearly [15:30:43] Hehe :) [15:30:45] :D [15:30:49] Action: APlayer slaps Deddly for spam [15:30:58] ow [15:31:09] Deddly: my clilent has a 'slow paste' mode [15:31:14] It was a light slap, though [15:31:46] My client has a "flood everyone because who cares?" mode [15:31:52] :P [15:31:53] Ircghost: you could always go the easy route: MOAR BOOSTERS! [15:32:04] of course! But I want to learn :P [15:32:15] Action: APlayer engages "Flood everyone" mode [15:32:23] Ircghost: use any mods? [15:32:30] Action: Althego activates noah mode [15:32:46] Scatter [15:32:57] that is pure visua [15:32:59] l [15:33:01] and now, mechjeb and kerbal engineer [15:33:13] good choice [15:33:14] well you asked any, so that falls under that category ;) [15:33:16] "Scatter" - "That is pure visua" [15:33:17] those are redundant, mechjeb can do what ker can [15:33:18] LOL [15:33:25] The big thing is to have sufficient �V (delta-v) for orbit, ~3 km/s once you know what you're doing. But to start with, I'd aim for 4 km/s. [15:33:28] yes, scatterer [15:33:55] I never managed to do better than 3500 m/s in stock KSP [15:34:06] I think 3300 was my one time best [15:34:21] What does the dv maps says? [15:34:28] 4500, I think? [15:34:29] i think it says 3400 [15:34:34]