[01:56:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:02:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:45:30] Althego: dilithium is just space-coal [06:26:00] and spice is just space-oil? [06:28:36] hah, concave earth debate. something new at last [06:29:49] what's there to debate? your shoes always wear out at the front and the back, that's only possible on a concave earth [06:33:52] but how did they get to fune without the spice? [06:33:55] *dune [06:33:57] arrakis [06:35:11] i don't think that's a useful question [06:35:28] he who control spice controls empire [06:36:02] there must have been ways to travel without it, just those methods are either too inefficient to work on a large scale, or they have been phased out and forgotten [06:36:06] i have to find one of the old disks with dune2 on it [06:36:33] probably there is a dune wiki already about this [06:36:41] eddi yeah empire is very old at time of story [06:37:00] 100% chance it had some form of pre-spice travel [06:37:07] like, people used to run factories without computers. but if you take away electricity now, no factory would work anymore [06:37:08] not as old as the imperium of man :) [06:37:11] they had to find the planet first after all [06:38:33] and not only factories... also farming would not work anymore [06:38:50] hehe, the tractor firmware patches :) [06:39:06] fuck deere [06:39:14] yes that [06:39:40] luckily mods are asleep now [06:39:44] ya [06:39:49] XXCoder kicked from #kspofficial by TheKosmonaut: no we not [06:39:58] hehe [06:41:04] oh well [06:41:14] but anyway without computers, say in case of some powerful emp civilization would just disappear [06:41:31] but in the dune universe they dont have computers at all [06:41:41] that was due to ai wars [06:48:29] were computers a thing when dune was written? [06:49:18] they had to be because it is stated that there are no computers [06:49:34] wiki says 65, so there were computers, but only the huge kind [06:49:41] i've never actually read dune [06:49:54] there is a new film coming up [06:50:35] eddi dunno but dune history certainly does have computers etc in past [06:50:39] how many versions are there? i seem to remember a movie and a 3-part series [06:50:54] i cant keep track of them :) [06:50:54] then after ai wars computers were banned [06:51:01] many books [06:51:10] last book I read was that god one [06:51:16] god emperior I think [06:51:26] and possibly another 3 part sequel series? [06:51:28] there is story even after that [06:51:31] and another movie? [06:52:38] there was the dune 2 game, but i have never seen a dune 1 game [06:52:48] that is a strange game [06:52:54] and there's apparently a boardgame? [06:52:56] it is a mix of strategy and adventure [06:58:23] The slow blade penetrates the shield. [09:06:12] cant watch a concave earth video because i am still stuck with the vasaviation channel [09:52:38] hehe, airport firefighters: read leader, red 4 is in position [09:52:48] pity it wasnt red 5 [11:29:31] birdstrike? that is nothing. go for the big game, like hitting a deer during takeoff [16:16:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:04:27] mm [17:04:35] KAS seems a bit too buggy [17:06:50] https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=536149763 [18:19:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:37:45] I really hope KSP makes autosaves... I screwed up and my Jool mission ship got kicked out of the system, because I was to cheap to park it in a safe orbit... [18:38:43] it does [18:38:46] with autmatic backupos [18:45:57] but not enough. I need the save game from friday... [18:46:13] hehe [18:46:39] looks like I really have to work further on the orbit. [18:47:01] Since I first should go to Jool and now shall go to Gilly and my orbit is kinda low already... [18:47:46] lucky me brought an ISRU. Hopefully I can mine Gilly at all. [18:49:32] hehe, in another video there is a red 5 (obviously a fire truck), but the guy didnt say, red 5 standing by [19:15:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:36:01] hehe action lab fire umbrella [19:41:37] So, let's see if I can save this mission somehow. [19:42:30] blunderbirds? :) [19:43:34] Gilly is the best mining rock. [19:53:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:56:05] Well, I need something to get my periapsis up. And I don't mean 5k dV [19:56:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:58:11] solar radiation pressure? [20:00:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:15:40] "a nuclear saltwater rocket, providing unreal TWR and Isp at the cost of the entire ecosystem of any world it is used on" - luckily, there are only biomes in KSP, no ecosystems :) ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/191354-b9-hx-reconfig-10-feb-1-2020/ ) [20:16:07] hehe [20:16:35] owned by an enctyption cipher :) [20:18:08] Hm, Kerbin actually has plants between grass and kerbals now [20:18:21] there is grass [20:18:23] trees [20:18:27] and pine trees [20:18:40] that is at least 3 kinds of plants [20:19:09] or rather you can probably count the basig green surface as a separate type of grass [20:19:13] so 4 [20:20:09] Also cactus? [20:20:32] oh yes i forgot about that [20:20:47] nothing on the ocean floor yet [20:20:54] maybe late [20:20:54] r [20:21:14] they're all radiation-hardened :) [20:21:45] also invulnerable to mechanical damage [20:51:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:49:22] grml. No, this mission will get saved by hyperedit. [21:50:11] I would have sent a rescue mission. But for an Eve orbit I was missing 20 m/s dV. This game is trolling me in so many ways right now [22:54:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net