[04:27:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:21:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:45:25] https://youtu.be/PT5UsfFEeQk lol [08:45:26] YouTube - First Time in 1.9 - Kerbal Space Program [08:47:53] whoa. weird bug. you know what it means [08:48:01] he will break ksp so badly again [09:13:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:28:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:35:41] https://youtu.be/JoeS0FV1pUw [11:35:42] YouTube - KSP - Single stage spaceplane to Tylo and Laythe: stock, non-refueled, round-trip [12:20:00] how do you plan such gravity assists? [12:20:03] is there a tool for that? [12:32:15] I guess that's just experience and many many tries [12:32:49] but you can calculate this, at least for KSP [12:38:10] and he says it in the video: He tries to do little corrections and get resonant orbits. Those orbits are known or at least caluatable [12:38:16] *calculatable [12:39:10] (a resonant orbit means that e.g. for every two times you orbit your target orbits one time or so) [12:39:13] also: https://meyerweb.com/eric/ksp/resonant-orbits/ [12:40:02] yep, that website has been helpful for setting up relays [12:40:57] hatrix: some tools, from https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/KerbalSlingshotter (rather simple) to https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/33568-- (moar complex) [12:41:18] Action: packbart seldomly bothers with gravity assists [12:46:53] man, why is the readme not telling me how to run the thing [13:38:05] Shame about all the part clipping in that video [13:38:32] I get that it's still an incredible feat, but as soon as cheats are involved, I no longer feel like we're playing the same game. [13:39:39] I would be more impressed with a non-cheaty but well-designed craft that uses staging than a part-clipped SSTO. [13:44:36] I feel the same [13:55:59] it's a tech demo somehow [13:56:11] and yes, I'd like to have no more clipping for KSP2... [13:59:31] I can deal with a little realistic clipping by using the move tool - like moving an RCS fuel tank into the empty space of a nose cone or something like that [14:01:48] I used to have a tiny satellite that would just about fit underneath a Mk1 nosecone and stack decoupler. That was before we had fairings, so I was pretty proud of that :) [14:02:50] Action: packbart likes to move a "Dumpling" tank between a probe core and RA-100 antenna [14:03:09] Deddly: so we need a nose cone designer that can also make fairings out of it :D [14:03:11] it fits into the space with just a little clipping [14:03:44] because the difference between a fairing and a nose cone is just the release mechanism... [14:05:13] I don't think my satellite would fit anymore because they made the decouplers smaller. I'd have to use two of them [14:07:22] Oh yeah, talking about using decouplers as fairings, did I ever show you guys this? https://imgur.com/a/utwTOoz [14:07:22] https://i.imgur.com/7wESH13.png [14:07:51] Tiny rocket that can take one Kerbal to LKO :) [14:07:52] it's... tiny? [14:08:30] The Kerbal is on a chair inside the stack of decouplers that act as a fairing [14:08:52] lol [14:09:28] Basically, it's what Copenhagen Suborbitals would design if they ever go Orbital :) [15:16:06] Action: darsie starts KSP to one up that :). [15:16:51] i'm looking for posters like that about science in general https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/visions-of-the-future/ [15:16:57] anyone has ideas? [15:17:03] I've found some from CNES also [15:19:57] Tiny rocket to get one Kerbal to LKO: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot55.png Ok, the Kerbal has to complete the orbit with the jetpack, but there remains enough EVA fuel to deorbit. [15:20:35] that's cheap [15:20:37] It also needs to be flown very precisely, or not enough fuel will remain to deorbit alive. [15:21:52] what's the Δv of a kerbal in vaccuum? [15:22:36] 600 m/s [15:22:41] IIRC [15:22:51] oh wow [15:23:55] A Kerbal can jetpack to orbit from The Mun. [15:26:19] Deddly: That decoupler fairing is interesting. Might make using the ant more feasible. [15:28:16] Nice rocket, darsie. where is the Kerbal? [15:28:30] At home. It's for tourists. [15:28:47] Goes to the command seat. [15:28:58] Where is the command seat? [15:29:01] on top [15:29:06] hidden :) [15:29:07] Oh right [15:29:10] LOL [15:29:27] Well I wanted my Kerbal to have at least a little protection :) [15:29:38] Mine get a space suit :). [15:33:12] darsie: with only minor damage, right? ;) [15:33:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5dN97qs3w 2:30 h [15:33:52] T-2:30h :P [15:36:11] Mat2ch: Well, almost burn up during reentry, and if they don't bring a chute, they impact at terminal velocity. They fall unconscious from that, but recover quickly ;). [15:56:48] I'm going to have to fire up that rocket again, it's been a while. I think I could land the "capsule" back on the ground [15:57:22] ahah, found that from quite a while ago https://hatrix.fr/KSP/473218_165074123657319_1209403590_o.jpg [16:14:56] I have actually so far failed to find a use case for the big wheels in my games. [16:15:21] dumb looking rockets :) [16:16:56] very heavy rovers [16:16:59] i'm gonna buy this one I think https://www.redbubble.com/fr/shop/p/28112180.Y8UA9 [16:17:09] the ruggedized wheels start to bounce around under load [16:18:07] Do any wheels not? [16:18:07] Deddly: I had one. But then KSP ate my rocket :P [17:05:12] 55 minutes? [17:05:41] No, 54! [17:06:47] butt according to nextrocket there is still more than 3 hours to go [17:07:03] whaaaaaat [17:33:15] finally, there is the scott video [18:04:02] Well, the stream hasn't started yet... [18:23:18] according to Astras twitter account coverage should start in 1:30 h [18:23:27] 20:00 GMT [18:23:57] and launch in 2 hour [18:23:59] s [18:24:05] yep [18:24:06] so i am going to go to bed before that [18:24:42] hopefully the launch is made by people who wouldn't set the stream timer on youtube wrong. [18:37:30] 10 kg decoupler has excessive drag: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot60.png 10 kg battery not: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot61.png [18:37:48] Both right after flameout. [18:38:10] Confirm? [18:38:15] hehe, flat earther: waves are caused by diamagnetism. they are caused by the wind, dude [18:38:28] Root part is the nose cone. [18:40:17] Nose cone, TD06 decoupler/battery, Oscar B, Spark. [18:41:08] What's your velocity/Ap after flameout? [19:07:31] ok, now is the time to land this base from the start https://i.imgur.com/jpX408m.png [19:07:45] I'm confident everything will work from start to end this time [19:07:55] hehe [19:08:08] I've been on this thing for more than a month now T_T [19:13:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wBgsf8jWY [19:13:19] YouTube - Crew Dragon’s First Demonstration Mission | One-Year Launch Anniversary [19:13:23] ot has been a year? [19:13:28] that was fast [19:13:37] i guess i am starting to get old [19:13:44] hatrix: Did you calculate drag/weight? [19:13:53] nope [19:14:20] but this thing flies correctly on ascend, I've got no idea why [19:14:29] you definitely need gimbals though [19:22:15] gimbals of steel :) [19:47:00] 15 minutes until stream [19:48:12] No, 13! [19:48:14] :D [19:48:28] Althego: are you staying awake for the launch? [19:48:32] no [19:49:35] Ok, I'm on a circular orbit of ~101 - 110km around Eve [19:49:40] and I've got 600m/s left :) [19:51:41] Go to hell! [19:51:54] meaning the surface of eve [19:51:59] ofc :) [19:53:50] I just need to know _when_ to enter the atmosphere [19:53:56] I don't want to land on water [19:54:22] It's molten lead. [19:54:34] quicksave and try, try and then try harder. :D [20:17:36] https://i.imgur.com/2iLwxq8.png [20:17:41] had to cut some parachutes but this looks good [20:19:52] touchdown!! [20:19:53] alive!! [20:20:25] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5dN97qs3w stream has started [20:21:40] thanks to whoever recommended the struts to land instead of legs! [20:21:44] https://i.imgur.com/mHqIO9z.png [20:23:22] https://i.imgur.com/z7looIW.png [20:33:05] I don't have enough batteries to have all the radiators + drills + ISRU [20:33:17] with 1/4th of the radiators it works though https://i.imgur.com/JYz8Kxg.png [20:34:31] hatrix: yw :) [20:36:20] is it considered cheating if I now transfer that craft from my sandbox to the career one? [20:36:46] You're the judge of that. [20:37:03] You mean the build file? I don't think that's cheating. [20:37:04] I personally wouldn't consider it cheating. as long as you've unlocked those parts [20:37:17] If there are locked parts, it won't launch. [20:37:20] yes only the build [20:37:33] I started testing in career mode but I lost about 1 million [20:38:07] I test a lot in career, but I load if tests fail. [20:38:35] Testing in sandboxs is good. It counts as simulation. [20:38:53] I hope you like albums, I'm gonna make another one [20:38:55] https://imgur.com/a/s5xZIct [20:39:07] all resources to the max :) [20:39:50] How many struts exploded on landing? [20:39:55] none [20:40:01] cool :) [20:40:19] darsie: https://i.imgur.com/01QxQSc.png [20:41:03] :) [20:41:48] I'm even impressed I managed to land elsewhere than on the heatshields I jettisoned [20:43:01] I don't know what to do anymore with my life, it was centered on that mission :| [20:43:25] Try mind uploading. [20:43:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejIKy5R4uGM [20:43:51] YouTube - Aldehyde-Stabilized Cryopreservation is Cryonics for Uploaders [20:44:35] Bring a surface sample back to Kerbin. [20:45:03] ahah, that's going to have to wait a bit :) [20:45:09] like one or two months :D [20:46:12] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5dN97qs3w T-9 min! [20:54:56] hoooold /o\ [21:04:45] Is there a way to reverse control surface functionality? I forget [21:05:53] Ah, got it [21:06:02] Get control authority to a negative number [21:06:57] Except don't try and use it for roll, in that case... [21:11:21] Oh, I missed the launch, didn't I? [21:12:51] Did you recreate that one Протон? [21:16:01] don't think so Deddly [21:16:05] they just take their time [21:16:13] Ah, ok [21:39:57] T-5 ? [21:40:01] minutes [21:40:02] Maybe [21:42:42] Video stream says 15, heh [21:44:36] https://imgur.com/a/TMXWeqN full album [21:51:00] Wow, you landed the entire thing in one go? [21:51:39] Are you planning on using it to refuel other craft, hatrix? [21:51:58] T-5:00 again on the stream [21:52:23] yep, in one go [21:52:51] It's just a commercial contract, I don't plan on doing anything with it [21:53:05] Ah OK. Well, well done :) [21:53:17] Who knows - it might come in handy at some point [22:00:10] trying not to hit the ISS. that's nice [22:01:45] Sounds like it's an indefinite hold [22:02:10] Oh well. [22:22:13] the music volume increases. something is happening [22:44:03] Not really... [22:56:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net