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[00:06:20] <JVFoxy> Its a Rans Coyote S6 <trying to find a pic but a lot of them pretty small>
[00:07:40] <JVFoxy> ah here we go https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/8/3/1756387.jpg?v=v40
[00:07:57] <senray> huh
[00:08:03] <JVFoxy> similar.. just different colors.
[00:08:08] <senray> If it had bigger tires, I'd say it looks like a bush plane
[00:09:22] <JVFoxy> some do..
[00:15:03] <JVFoxy> School has, last I was there, a Foxbat as well
[00:15:17] <JVFoxy> trying to figure out what plane Ben owns and uses for flight instruction
[00:16:12] <JVFoxy> ah.. Ikarus C42
[00:17:48] <UmbralRaptor> Is& is& there another plane called a Foxbat? 
[00:20:03] <senray> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tO5L1UzeDY
[00:20:03] <kmath> YouTube - A22 Foxbat Advanced Short Take Off
[00:20:05] <senray> This plane?
[00:20:57] <JVFoxy> http://www.aeropraktsouthafrica.co.za/img/AEROPRAKT-A32.jpg
[00:21:38] <JVFoxy> ya pretty much same aircraft, our's with a slightly different engine cowl though. Our's also slightly brighter yellow
[00:23:11] <JVFoxy> err.. well I guess most of htem some dirty yellow color
[00:25:01] <JVFoxy> oh heh.. video of.. well Ben is paralyzed from the waist down, he's one of our instructors. Flys the C42
[00:25:13] Action: UmbralRaptor was confused because of the reporting name of the 8-25
[00:25:38] <JVFoxy> nah.. not hte fighter
[00:25:39] <JVFoxy> ultralight
[00:27:13] <JVFoxy> 25.... ooh.. mig vs su 25... I sent a friend a model of a Frogfoot fighter (1/72 scale) a while back.
[00:29:06] <JVFoxy> anyways..gotta run
[00:53:52] <MARS18> Hello everyone
[00:54:03] <MARS18> I got a question 
[00:55:30] <Supernovy> Ask away.
[00:55:38] <MARS18> Is there a rss patch for ksp 1.4.5
[00:55:52] <MARS18> Just curious
[00:57:04] <MARS18> ?
[00:57:34] <MARS18> I'll take the silence as a no then
[02:17:36] <oren> Wait, are the fairings supposed to be semitransparent?
[02:18:09] <oren> https://imgur.com/VGsHQhk
[02:18:09] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/VGsHQhk.png
[02:19:39] <JVFoxy> maybe new tech.. metal so thin but strong, you can sorta see through :)
[02:19:50] <JVFoxy> Or maybe its just made out of fabric
[02:29:16] <UmbralRaptor> stab stab stabbity stab stab 
[02:50:18] <oren> OK, encouraging signs that my plan of reusing the mun lander from the previous mission will work
[02:52:58] <MARS18> Hello again
[02:54:39] <oren> https://imgur.com/TilGZM3
[02:54:40] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/TilGZM3.jpg
[02:54:41] <JVFoxy> ....
[02:55:22] <oren> sucess, jebediah has recovered it and docked it to the new mothership
[02:59:56] <oren> this time, I will need to somehow recover the lander on kerbin
[04:05:42] <senray> Anyone ever have KSP not load any parts
[04:07:25] <Draconiator> Never happenned to me.
[04:08:41] <senray> getting this in the log for a bunch of parts "Cannot find Part of type 'PartTapIn'"
[04:11:10] <JVFoxy> anyone play KSP while having dual screens and game on just one?
[04:12:43] <senray> it's only loading struts
[04:13:32] <JVFoxy> sorry... strut your stuff
[04:16:54] <senray> lol
[04:17:43] <senray> hmm....so they aren't even getting in the part databse cfg
[04:17:48] <JVFoxy> anyways.. was asking about dual screens as I found a problem... at least if you using dual screens and also have older copies of KSP
[04:22:29] <senray> maybe some sort of permissions garbage...
[04:22:57] <JVFoxy> what os?
[04:24:22] <senray> win 10
[04:24:24] <senray> er 7
[04:24:27] <senray> win 7
[04:26:02] <JVFoxy> guessing steam install?
[04:26:04] <senray> nope
[04:26:09] <senray> zip
[04:26:25] <senray> i never use steam when I can avoid it lol
[04:26:38] <JVFoxy> oh zip..
[04:26:52] <JVFoxy> that case.. my guess stuff isn't getting placed in proper places then
[04:26:57] <JVFoxy> stock right?
[04:27:13] <senray> a bunch of mods too. But they're all 1.4 compatible
[04:27:48] <JVFoxy> ok wouldn't know about mods.. more concerned if your stock parts aren't showing up
[04:27:58] <senray> those aren't showing either
[04:29:47] <JVFoxy> you should have a folder says gamedata.. in that should at least be squad folder
[04:30:32] <senray> all thats their
[04:31:34] <JVFoxy> go into them till you see actual files..? I never installed through zip.. it was uncompresed with folders, just drag drop
[04:32:10] <senray> yeah, the actual files are there
[04:32:46] <JVFoxy> maybe a mod... ? I don't know what you've got
[04:47:36] <JVFoxy> eh..
[04:47:42] <JVFoxy> who knows about websites?
[04:48:12] <Althego> they are among the most horrible things humans have come up with
[04:48:40] <JVFoxy> I can pull a ping and traceroute but... when I go to it with browser, just times out.. guessing some kinda 'issue'?
[04:51:13] <Althego> ping and traceroute doesnt say anything about the state of the http server
[04:52:29] <senray> guess i'll try halving....
[04:57:11] <Epi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8knRvUywo huh, i always wondered what that was
[04:58:00] <Althego> which what
[05:00:32] <Epi> the dark non combusting looking bit of a rockets exhaust 
[05:02:53] <Althego> i didnt notice it before but as soon as he pointed out it was obvious
[05:02:57] <JVFoxy> n/m.. talk'n with someone else. DNS got jumbled somewhere some time...
[05:03:11] <Althego> but i already knew about that way of cooling
[05:04:01] <Epi> yeah, i never knew they did that, cool stuff
[06:14:36] <oren> I still want a majora's mask mun mod
[06:15:05] <Althego> hehe
[06:15:44] <oren> like one that eventually crashes into the KSC
[06:17:31] <JVFoxy> mask mun.. so it just looks like a mask from kerbin or?
[06:18:15] <Althego> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-moon-majoras-mask
[06:22:01] <JVFoxy> ya I figured as much.. that would be one crazy terrain to land on
[06:22:20] <JVFoxy> where would ya land? On the eye... in a nostril... tooth? :P
[06:22:54] <Althego> the back side is probably smother
[06:23:37] <JVFoxy> freddy kruger melted skin smooth... maybe
[07:24:05] <Althego> hehe wooden a-10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiqeote2P2M
[07:24:05] <kmath> YouTube - Giant 8-Foot A-10 Warthog for Under $50
[07:24:26] <Althego> or maybe paper?
[07:59:47] <Rokker> Althego: A-10
[09:16:50] <Olympic1> Question for the long time players: Does anyone still have a .zip file from KSP 0.25 and/or 0.90
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[09:39:08] <sandbox> yes
[09:40:59] <Deddly> Olympic1, I think a lot of people have those. I still have them all the way back to 1.8
[09:41:06] <Althego> hehe
[09:41:17] <Althego> i never archived any
[09:41:33] <Althego> i could have from 0.24 but didnt see merit in it
[09:42:01] <Olympic1> I lost them, is it allowed to share them?
[09:42:26] <Deddly> That would unfortunately be piracy
[09:42:49] <Olympic1> dammit
[09:42:52] <Deddly> :(
[09:42:57] <Rolf> maybe try to directly ask company, as they can check if you has account and had bought ksp
[09:43:10] <Rolf> I dont think they will but dont think it hurts to ask
[09:43:11] <Deddly> What do you want to do in the old version, Olympic1?
[09:44:02] <Olympic1> enjoy nostalgia :)
[09:46:15] <Deddly> Olympic1, there's a 0.13 demo on sourceforge. Whould that be helpful?
[09:46:40] <Rolf> isnt that version that world isnt sphere yet?
[09:47:02] <Olympic1> I have that demo still
[09:47:03] <Deddly> I think it was always a sphere
[09:47:23] <Rolf> hmm ok. its been a while since I watched very early versions youtube lol
[09:47:36] <Rolf> I know I played some versions that was pretty different
[09:47:48] <Rolf> water was acid and trees didnt exist I think
[09:49:27] <Deddly> Yeah. And there was no map view, so to get an orbit, people had to calculate the size and mass of Kerbin and work out the correct orbital speed needed
[09:49:35] <Deddly> No time warp, either
[09:49:46] <Deddly> Olympic1, I found the 0.18.3 demo
[09:49:53] <Deddly> Is that helpful?
[09:49:58] <Rolf> thats before version I used as versions I played always had space view
[09:49:59] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umj0gu5nEGs
[09:49:59] <kmath> YouTube - Rocky Horror Time Warp
[09:50:10] <Rolf> hmm maybe except the very earliest one?
[09:50:38] <Deddly> Rolf, yeah it's before my time too, but I read the original KSP thread on the Orbiter forums
[09:50:42] <Olympic1> I have all the demo's still
[09:52:08] <Olympic1> I have 0.13, 0.18.3, then I bought KSP around 0.22 but never saved them until 1.0+
[09:52:10] <Rolf> man I had so much fun with weird quirks and bugs
[09:52:10] <Rolf> my snowflake plane is most favorite creation so far lol
[09:56:54] <Deddly> I jumped in and bought 0.18 when I found out that it included all future DLC :)
[09:57:21] <Althego> hehe
[09:57:28] <Althego> i havent heard about ksp then
[09:57:57] <Althego> but i am constatly looking for space games, and even now there are not too many
[09:59:27] <Rolf> wish my memory is better bah
[09:59:36] <Rolf> I know I bought ksp before I switched to linux
[09:59:43] <Rolf> so its been bunch of years
[10:00:02] <Rolf> does 4 to 5 years make sense?
[10:00:11] <Rolf> I know 3 years is minium
[10:01:00] <Deddly> Rolf, which version was your first?
[10:01:08] <Rolf> I dont know
[10:01:18] <Rolf> I do know it looked kindan ugly lol
[10:01:58] <Althego> hehe
[10:02:02] <Althego> probabl 0.1x :)
[10:02:51] <Deddly> 0.7 was the first version released to the public
[10:03:40] <Deddly> 0.3 was the version before the visual style upgrade
[10:03:47] <Deddly> Sorry I mean 0.13
[10:03:54] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--cOWf2pKAk lol
[10:04:47] <Althego> 1000 meter munar face sliding
[10:04:49] <Rolf> 0.13 looks bit too different
[10:04:49] <Althego> still happens :)
[10:04:53] <Althego> what a sport event
[10:05:51] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLppxmBkcmA pretty ugly lol
[10:06:43] <Rolf> from videos I guess that my first version was 0.16
[10:06:58] <Rolf> maybe bit earlier if I had forgotten about tower
[10:10:10] <Rolf> watching video on 0.7.3 the first public release. looks so strange
[10:47:27] <Olympic1> ah, found a way to go back to 0.25 using this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=889624474
[10:54:27] <Rolf> interesting
[10:54:45] <Rolf> Althego: I remember there was video showing pre-release versions including strange one'
[10:54:49] <Rolf> but cant find it
[10:54:55] <sandbox> interesting, I wonder if you could do that for fallout new vegas and get all the records for the stuff that was patched out
[10:55:23] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/xeOmSN-ue40
[10:55:23] <kmath> YouTube - bottle beheading
[10:55:25] <Fluburtur> more swording
[10:58:33] <sandbox> I got most of them already but I think that steam possibly didn't get the earliest release as there are still things that were in the unpatched PS3 disc version
[11:01:20] <Rolf> video I was talking about was way before 0.7.3, pre-alpha and earlier. very weird. but I cant find video awww
[11:01:41] <Rolf> one of em had earth moon in sky lol 
[11:28:37] <Mat2ch> hrm, I really wonder how the youtube algorithm is working. There's some really good stuff that has next to no views and there's this clickbait stuff that gets millions of views, but nobody clicks on it
[11:30:14] <Rolf> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Early_Versions nice
[11:31:18] <Rolf> verson 0.1 world was flat apparently, 0.2 it was tiny sphere
[11:43:23] <Guest97322> hi there, I've got some issue with 1.4.5 version under W10: I can't move the view (camera); the mouse react (moves) but the view not (outdoor and inside buildings). Any idea ?
[11:44:20] <Guest97322> my windows10 is pretty clean, ksp brand fresh without add-ons
[12:08:07] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdqazixuRY
[12:08:07] <kmath> YouTube - AUTOMATICA - Robots Vs. Music - Nigel Stanford
[12:53:51] <Guest97322> F%&#ing windows10 (I experience it the less possible), it seems that running KSP "as admin" solve my problem.
[12:53:54] <Guest97322> bye
[13:08:38] <Althego> hehe the last secret of doom 2 was found 2 days ago, after more than 20 years
[13:25:39] <sandbox> hmm
[13:44:30] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/iHPJIn6hMKA
[13:44:30] <kmath> YouTube - Lego GBC module: Hockey Stick Lift
[14:34:02] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-RtJOfFlZU
[14:34:03] <kmath> YouTube - See how it was made - The Amazing Life-Size LEGO Technic version of the Bugatti Chiron
[16:18:57] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/K0BKqpVcHrU
[16:18:58] <kmath> YouTube - aurora90 wing chase
[16:19:27] <Althego> why do you have so many unlisted videos?
[16:19:36] <Fluburtur> not really worth publishing
[16:19:53] <Fluburtur> I put like no effort into those, it's just when I want to show someone quickly
[16:40:52] <Tank2333> hi
[16:45:29] <Tank2333> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEBgi6QYDhQ
[16:45:30] <kmath> YouTube - Everybody dance now! - AI-Based Motion Transfer
[16:46:22] <Althego> ehehe, the hungarian accent
[16:46:31] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/n-RtJOfFlZU
[16:46:31] <kmath> YouTube - See how it was made - The Amazing Life-Size LEGO Technic version of the Bugatti Chiron
[16:46:41] <Althego> old :)
[16:47:10] <Fluburtur> no
[16:47:14] <Fluburtur> old would be like 2002
[16:47:22] <Fluburtur> 2015 is like two days ago for me
[16:47:28] <Althego> i linked it 2 hours afo lol
[16:47:36] <Fluburtur> I wasn't there
[16:48:04] <Althego> you looked like you were
[16:48:18] <Fluburtur> I was at the field with a friend
[16:48:24] <Fluburtur> or just doing something else
[16:48:39] <JVFoxy> ... I know people who were born in 2002.... already moved out on their own....
[16:48:54] <Fluburtur> no, anyone born after 1999 is 5 years old at most
[16:49:13] <JVFoxy> wait... that would make them 16..
[16:49:54] <JVFoxy> feel old when... >_<
[17:02:41] <Tank2333> Fluburtur it feels like that
[17:03:37] Action: UmbralRaptor is surprised by that many 16 year olds moving out, but otherwise makes sense. 
[17:07:33] <JVFoxy> entitled generation?
[17:07:53] Action: JVFoxy pokes at Fluburtur's comment about 1999 and 5 year olds
[17:08:29] <Fluburtur> no they are just babies
[17:08:36] <Fluburtur> barely old enough to walk by themselves
[17:08:51] <Fluburtur> but well idk; im from 97 myself
[17:09:13] <JVFoxy> drop back 20 more years.. thats me
[17:09:21] <Althego> you can legally drink even in american states now, you are officially old :)
[17:09:39] <Fluburtur> I have no intent on goign there so I don't mind
[17:09:47] <JVFoxy> don't care for beer anyways
[17:10:21] <JVFoxy> I tried... lets just say half a bottle would already get me buzzed >_<
[17:10:37] <Fluburtur> what size bottle
[17:11:52] <Althego> hehe
[17:12:01] <Tank2333> i just hate the taste of beer, wich is pretty annoying because its a social lubricant over here
[17:12:11] <JVFoxy> 12 oz I guess for american? it was micro brew (canadian)
[17:13:22] <Tank2333> That lego Bugatti is kinda amazing
[17:15:34] <Althego> now we just need a lego airplane :
[17:15:35] <Althego> )
[17:30:52] <senray> >The "g" in GIF is at least a 7 on the Mohs scale
[17:30:52] <senray> Lol
[17:31:12] <Althego> i hope red5 one day comas back and sees this topic
[17:31:19] <Althego> comes
[17:33:14] <senray> Deleting and readding mods until it's fixed is a reasonable way of solving this "ksp won't load parts" issue, right?
[17:33:40] <Althego> server policy does not allow deleting of irc mods :)
[17:34:03] <senray> lol
[17:34:43] <senray> If this isn't a mod causing this problem, I'll be pretty stymied
[17:35:28] <JVFoxy> readding.. read that as reading... duh.. not awake I guess
[17:36:03] <JVFoxy> senray I suggest just starting fresh, try to see if the stock game even loads properly for you. Then adding each mod by itself to see if it still runs ok
[17:36:20] <JVFoxy> are you adding mods through ckan or manually?
[17:36:35] <senray> manually
[17:36:58] <senray> My 1.3.1 install works fine
[17:38:28] <JVFoxy> quite a few mods if I recall.. might wanna try using ckan then. It'll usually catch various bad interactions for you.
[17:39:18] <senray> Nah, CKAN causes more issues than it solves, IMO, especially because a few mods I'm using aren't on it
[17:39:28] <senray> I'll try it fresh and adding slowly if this doesn't work
[17:39:37] <senray> I really wish KSP was just good out of the box lol
[17:40:10] <JVFoxy> well.. it used to work fine... guess it hasn't caught up to the new version yet
[17:40:48] <senray> KSP has the most fascinating bugs...
[17:41:07] <Althego> not anymore
[17:41:21] <Althego> the launchpad destroying your wings while you are in orbit...
[17:41:24] <Althego> now that was a bug
[17:41:55] <senray> that is quite a bug
[17:42:21] <Althego> i doubt they ever figured out what caused it, just the lot of refactoring for the new engine accidentally got rid of it
[17:42:37] <senray> I'd love a KSP2 that doesn't use Unity
[17:42:51] <Althego> not in the forseeable feature
[17:43:16] <senray> well yeah
[17:44:00] <senray> well, looks like I've narrowed it down!
[17:46:08] <JVFoxy> Althego I had the wings blowing up bug only when I came in for landing.. was like seriously.. why?
[17:46:22] <Althego> most often during landings
[17:46:45] <Althego> but i had them in orbit, and once i was coming back from duna and was on a hyperbolic flyby
[17:47:27] <JVFoxy> it usually had to do with being in orbit for a long time.. issues with precision. I noticed the coordinate system was acting funny.. instead of 0-360.. it had something like 720 instead.
[17:47:31] <senray> I'm relieved that none of the mods I've narrowed this down to are super important
[17:52:44] <Althego> long time? like 1-2 orbits around kerbin?
[17:57:35] <JVFoxy> not sure.. I didn't really test very well back then. Was more shocked, spending a few orbits at least, flying my ssto in, them blam one wing goes. Some cases I still had control. Then suddenly the other sheers off.
[17:57:55] <JVFoxy> I'd check action report, collision with runway.. I was like. what the... but but I'm still 3 km out.
[18:04:17] <Guest48995> Hello
[18:04:34] <Althego> the useless bot
[18:04:40] <Guest48995> anyone install the space x mods?
[18:05:16] <Guest48995> im trying to figure out how to piece them together
[18:05:25] <Guest48995> but there are no manuals
[18:12:32] <Tank2333> i bet he was born after 1999
[18:12:40] <Althego> hehe
[18:13:51] <Tank2333> they could just leave irc running or let the chanel open, but no... ask blink leave
[18:14:06] <Althego> blink and you miss it
[18:15:06] <Althego> heh maybe i start to miss dreadnought. (it was a line for blink warp) but i could have been a great game instead they messed it up
[18:16:12] <Tank2333> never heard of it
[18:19:32] <Tank2333> oh wait i know now what it was, i also heard a podcast with one of the guys from that Yager game studio
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[18:57:14] <darsie> Now I know why I didn't want the computer inaccessibly hidden between batteries in a service bay ... kerbnet.
[18:57:36] <darsie> I thought, hmm, hibernation. No, not for that mission ...
[18:58:00] <darsie> I can't even click it by zooming into the rocket.
[18:58:48] <darsie> got it :)
[18:59:57] <darsie> The zoom out/in by one step repeatedly did it. Didn't work before.
[19:05:25] <Chazbanx> hey
[19:05:36] <Althego> heyayay :)
[19:05:44] <Chazbanx> anyone know how to build falcon 9 with the mods?
[19:06:15] <Althego> not me
[19:07:13] <UmbralRaptop> darsie: action groups can let you access kerbnet, right? 
[19:07:25] <UmbralRaptop> (for next revision of the craft) 
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[19:12:22] <darsie> UmbralRaptor: ahh, thx. But it turned out Hecs doesn't show biomes anyways. So next time, too :).
[19:12:33] <senray> Huh, I figured out the parts loading issue
[19:12:39] <senray> Fusebox Extended
[19:14:26] <UmbralRaptor> blarg
[19:36:27] <senray> Huh, so if Fusebox is missing ToolbarController, KSP will not load any parts
[19:41:16] <Tank2333> my car doesnt load up without a fusbox too
[20:41:16] <darsie> My rocket on a slope fell over while I got some food. 
[20:45:38] <UmbralRaptor> Don't let your rocket get too hungry. 
[20:46:04] <darsie> Looks like the strut legs dug into the dirt and then they got squeezed out.
[21:01:06] <darsie> It's repeatable. The rocket stands on Minmus, I switch to KSC and back and the strut legs are in the dirt.
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[21:38:08] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/b52a0111252235ddf74b63ca130e690a/tumblr_inline_ozod807FnY1qf6xk1_540.jpg
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[22:09:14] <Rolf> game in game in game
[22:09:40] <Rolf> theres gameboy emulation in minecraft it was funny
[22:20:49] <SirWhales> funny, i was sitting here just now wondering if i should play fallout or skyrim
[22:20:58] <SirWhales> and now i'm wishing i had some kind of hybrid lol
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