[00:13:58] I'm still sporting mass shadow hawks [00:14:18] I need to watch the new episodes of the expanse [00:14:31] Third season is here? [00:14:35] yeah [00:14:38] yep [00:14:47] starting out fairly good too [00:17:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:18:27] Fluburtur: people are dumb [00:18:41] yes [00:18:57] Fluburtur: so i found a tweet with footage of the WC-130 crash in georgia [00:19:27] Fluburtur: people think a bug that flew in front of the camera is a missile heading towards the WC-130 [00:19:39] lmao [00:19:46] it's an alien spaceship obviously [00:19:47] the same WC-130 they just watched bank to a >90 degree angle [00:19:54] and then nosedive into the ground [00:30:13] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: People talk of Rare Earths, but why not of Rare Venuses!? [00:30:47] because peoples only care about themselves and the planet they are on [00:31:04] makes me want to know how many venus like planets there are out there [00:31:17] They're simply jealous they can't melt lead without using a fire.. [00:31:46] Fluburtur: That's an amusing question, especially if we consider the strong possibility that Venus was habitable ~1 bya. [00:31:48] that's something everyone should aspire to do [00:32:16] btw I will get to work with mercury at my future job [00:32:20] will be nice [00:32:37] The planet or that wonky metal? [00:33:01] Action: Scolar_Visari entertains the idea of Fluburtur Mercury Metal Mining Corporation. [00:33:02] planet, I will be sent inside a probe so I can walk around [00:33:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:33:53] but actually I will be thermometers and the ones for use aboce 200°c need mercury [00:34:00] be making thermometers* [00:34:06] wtf is language anyways [00:34:28] someone should put that in the topic [00:34:55] Scolar_Visari: did you hear Insight is only getting a 20% chance of launch for 30th space wing [00:35:01] they are worried about visibility [00:35:10] they are worried it wont be... in sight [00:35:26] Rokker pls [00:36:07] Fluburtur: altho seriously tho, 20% chance of launc [00:36:08] Fluburtur: Temp-o-meters would likely be more accurate. [00:36:10] which sucks [00:37:44] when is it supposed to launch? [00:39:05] Fluburtur: saturday [00:39:38] k [00:39:52] isn't there an electron in the near future? [00:40:11] Fluburtur: blegh [00:40:12] yes [00:40:27] nice [00:40:34] disagree [00:40:49] it is a fun rocket [00:40:58] its an awful company [00:41:06] and founder [00:41:20] worse than blue origin? [00:41:24] yes [00:41:28] blue origin is great [00:42:02] their rocket is ugly [00:42:06] and useless [00:42:26] Fluburtur: which one [00:42:37] the only one they have so far [00:42:41] and all the others too [00:42:53] New Glenn isnt ugly, u are [00:42:59] no u [00:43:09] Action: Scolar_Visari notes the engines Blue Origin has developed more than make up for the perceived aesthetic failings of the launch vehicle. [00:44:14] no rocket engine can beat the nk-33 [00:44:24] Fluburtur: in what, number of explosions? [00:44:29] superior soviet engineering [00:44:41] superior failing capabilities [00:44:49] listen, whatever the engine if you stuff that many in one place it will go wrong [00:45:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:45:30] The NK-33's not had that many failures. You're thinking of the NK-15 [00:45:51] Scolar_Visari: the whole family is bad luck [00:45:55] Evening, Gentlemen. [00:46:07] Fluburtur: there were only 2 of them on Antares [00:46:13] the ones that were hidden in some case for several decades then western spies found out about them and didn't believe they were so good [00:46:38] for real, the russian engineers were very good at making engines [00:46:54] Staged combustion for the win. [00:47:02] depends [00:47:03] they made the oxydiser rick turbopumps work [00:47:08] they were good at some things [00:47:10] bad at others [00:47:15] and they had developped pretty nice metalurgy [00:47:18] just like the americans [00:47:42] they didn't need none of that fancy titanium for the mig 25 [00:47:51] Some people say it is better to increase thrust over specific impulse on a first stage engine. Is it too much to ask for both? [00:47:55] titanium that they had to buy from russia via someone else [00:48:07] thats because the MiG-25 damages itself to hell when it hits mach 3 [00:48:15] it cant do sustained mach 3 [00:48:19] so no need for titanium [00:49:00] Fluburtur: if they used titanium in their engines, perhaps they could survive mach 3 [00:49:40] also their planes didn't leak fuel all over the place when on the ground [00:50:05] but well we are gonna get into another endless argument because I like russian planes better and im too tired for that [00:50:08] Fluburtur: thats because, once again, they didnt go fast enough for that to be a useful feature [00:50:14] Fluburtur: YOUR OPINION IS WRONG [00:50:20] yours too [00:50:23] nope [00:50:28] cause im american [00:50:35] how does that matter [00:50:42] because it means im right [00:50:47] Fluburtur: Because something something exceptionalism something something. [00:50:52] ^ [00:50:53] the world police jokes are fun but it isn't the case oyu know [00:51:04] Fluburtur: oi [00:51:07] no politics [00:51:28] k [00:54:44] What on Earth . . . "The necessity of creating a dependability in transocianic flight was so great that the Hindenburg was torched and the titanic was scuttled along with the lusitania." [00:55:34] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if quoted individual was aware of the great many of ocean liners built after the Titanic and Lusitania, like the venerable Queen Mary and the luxurious Normandie. [00:55:49] WhatInTarnation.Shiba.jpg [00:56:39] And it's not like passenger aircraft built prior to the 50s tended to be a lot like boats themselves. [00:57:14] Well, watercraft and aircraft seem to have similar costs. [00:58:32] Well, mind you, said individual also thinks the major events of the last two centuries were the product of a shadowy cartel of Elites. [00:59:20] Hey now... I'm listening to countdown to armageddon. [00:59:55] it's not so much a cartel, as it is a community of idiots. [00:59:57] Also: They can't tell the difference between an Atlas V and an Atlas ICBM. [01:01:04] im trying to pick a nice telescope for the surprise birthday of a friend [01:01:19] kinda want to go with a newtonian with motorized follow mount [01:01:25] might visit the shop that sells those [01:02:31] Scolar_Visari: theres a difference? [01:03:10] Scolar_Visari: are you saying a 2 stage kerolox hydrolox rocket isnt used for launching nukes at a moments notice? cause that sounds implausible [01:03:36] They seem to be under the impression that Atlas Vs can be launched within hours like an old ICBM. [01:03:54] You know, ignoring that ICBMs didn't have to wait to be mated to an upper stage and payload. [01:03:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o NBones' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:03:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o DuoDex' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:04:23] I mean... the boom part is kinda a payload. [01:04:27] Scolar_Visari: seems plausible [01:05:13] KrazyKrl: Yeah, but it was already on top of the missile when it was in a silo. [01:05:50] In a nutshell: The person thinks that the X-37B can be launched within a few days, ignoring reality. [01:05:52] Well, you can send a whole lot of gerbils into space if you use an ICBM. [01:06:43] I mean, sure, there are no SRBs to add on to the X-37B launch configuration, but it's not like ULA keeps a bunch of spare rockets and personnel lying around on a moment's notice. [01:07:03] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders airlifting Atlas V components. [01:08:05] Scolar_Visari: i mean we know that the CCB can be airlifted [01:08:49] The components, however, would still have to be subsequently assembled and prepared for launch. [01:09:38] Scolar_Visari: its pretty hard to hide an Atlas V preparing for launch too [01:12:34] Said person also thinks secret orbital launches are a thing. [01:12:50] This includes, amusingly, the Space Shuttles. [01:13:49] Scolar_Visari: i... [01:13:54] wh... [01:15:00] Hiding a rocket trying to break the gravity of earth? Nah. [01:15:37] Maybe an aircraft with prototype propulsion that is silent and gives off no heat and was 15 feet over my head sure [01:15:48] Dead quiet [01:16:25] But even with such propulsion systems... Someone would notice a massive craft shooting straight up into the air. [01:17:56] Moonhound: I'm sure radar and infrared equipment made with the specific purpose of monitoring launches would probably notice, too. [01:17:59] Scolar_Visari: oh this reminds me [01:18:12] have you heard of an amazing game called armor mmo [01:18:51] Even if they had sci-fi engines, you're right, the size of a vehicle required would get picked up by its mass alone [01:19:50] MMOs are evul. [01:20:04] Moonhound: Unlike The Expanse, we do not have magickal stealth ships! [01:20:15] No obviously its covered in both a plasma generated layer AND somehow absorbs IR but also doesn't so its actually invisible [01:20:18] I mean there was the entire Aurora project which .... Given the amounts of money freely given to major airline companies states these projects would surely have been completed.... [01:20:32] After all, cloaking device is WAY simpler than magic carpet launch system [01:20:53] Magic Carpet does sound like a sweet name for a small payload orbital LV family. [01:21:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:21:02] Interstellar craft commissioned by the government to Boeing and Lockheed for instance [01:21:06] BILLIONS of dollars [01:21:07] Or, better yet: A multiple rocket launch system. [01:21:12] Scolar_Visari: so think war thunder/world of tanks/warplanes/warships style game [01:21:29] Rokker: I'll consider it if they simply change all that to Battletech. [01:21:43] Scolar_Visari: no no no listen, it gets really good [01:21:59] Moonhound: Do remember the USAF's had its fair share of aborted aerospace projects ala Dynasoar and MOL. [01:22:05] The "receipts" I guess you could call them claim completion of said commissions. Yet we do not sail through the solar system. [01:22:25] Scolar_Visari: so it starts off with you getting craft like this https://www.armormmo.com/img/MQ-1-Predator.jpg [01:22:25] Yes alot of failures [01:22:34] Scolar_Visari: and this https://www.armormmo.com/img/MH-60L_Black_Hawk.jpg [01:22:43] MOL and Dynasoar weren't so much failures as they were simply canceled. [01:22:45] Scolar_Visari: and then https://www.armormmo.com/img/Space_Shuttle.jpg [01:23:14] and https://www.armormmo.com/img/Buran.jpg [01:23:50] That could be a smoke show. They didnt even bother to cover their tracks on the spaceplanes. [01:24:13] Scolar_Visari: and https://www.armormmo.com/img/Stratolaunch_Model_351.jpg [01:24:18] Tied into government funding soooooo well documented [01:24:30] the secret space program is all conducted on the far side of the moon [01:24:37] Nah [01:24:48] Moonhound: i mean... the NRO half of mol wasnt declassified until 2012 [01:24:59] or was that 2014-15 [01:25:09] a little earlier wasn't it [01:25:17] came out with the blue book stuff [01:25:27] no, i was at the declassification ceremony [01:25:37] Oh neat [01:25:39] they're boiling h3 out of the rocks for fuel and using ancient alien factories to produce the space war machines that keep the enemy at bay [01:25:50] We are the ancient aliens. [01:25:52] Moonhound: got to meet a few of the astronauts for it [01:25:54] calm it down [01:26:13] Now that is fucking magnanimous Rokker [01:26:14] Moonhound: It's hard to completely cover ones tracks with aerospace development. [01:26:19] scuse the cursing [01:26:31] Language [01:26:53] Reaching space hits home is all. Apologies. [01:32:13] Moonhound: met Bob crippen, the first shuttle pilot, Richard truly, 2nd shuttle pilot and former NASA admin, Karol Bobko, and then some guys who never ended up flying after MOL was cancelled [01:32:52] oh and General Abramson who sorta helped lead the star wars initiative [01:34:12] RandomJeb: [01:34:18] Rokker: [01:37:55] Last message repeated 8 time(s). [01:37:55] wat [01:37:57] wtf [01:38:01] sorry guys [01:38:10] my phone must have gotten water on it or something [01:38:15] screen was going weird [01:39:37] set my phone down for a second and it freaks out [01:44:38] Rokker: lol [02:03:20] Hrm . . . Perhaps there is no salvaging of a person who thinks the Cold War was a hoax and that first stage engine restarts have always been a thing? [02:11:34] That's not far removed from a Flat Earther. [02:13:31] It's SOOOOOOOOOO annoying having to manually uninstall something that won't uninstall normally... [02:17:07] Delete button and confirm? [02:18:25] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if there's now hope for Battletech spinoff games ala Aerotech. [02:20:22] "SpaceX never built a telescope but guaranteed if they won a contract they would have something better flying in 5 years for a 10th of the cost." [02:20:28] "SpaceX never built a telescope but guaranteed if they won a contract they would have something passable flying in 20 years for the same cost." FTFY [02:21:34] ... [02:22:13] i always press shift+delete just to spite it [02:27:26] Sigh . . . "You could really push the envelope in "self-assembly" by cutting out the NASA middle-man and take the project straight to Elon Musk." [02:28:03] Action: Scolar_Visari wishes people who do not actually understand how things work should default to not having an opinion, rather than stating one based on ignorance in defiance of humility. [02:38:53] i think you don't understand how humans think :p [02:40:13] Incidentally, the graphs on Dunning and Krueger's actual paper are way less dramatic than you might expect. [02:41:27] well, 98% of people who talk about the dunning krüger effect haven't actually read the study :p [02:42:19] I think you have to sci-hub it, though. =\ [02:44:11] mind you, i'm one of the 98% [03:01:54] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to remember the Cant. [03:25:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o NBones' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:25:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o DuoDex' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:53:08] saturday is insight [04:56:00] I just contacted customer support in chinese and they were able to resolve my problem [04:56:35] you speak chinese? [04:56:48] that's the thing, I don't [04:57:04] I can write and copypaste it, but not speak [04:57:09] ah [04:57:29] so it was not phone [04:57:32] Althego: 20% chance of launch for insight atm [04:57:47] eh, i could watch this, saturday afternoon [04:57:55] so probably no launch [04:58:21] and let me guess, next launch time is say wednesday 2 after midnight [04:58:26] Althego: thats how it looks atm [04:58:27] my goal is to learn enough to be dangerous at the end of this year, and then go to shanghai in december to try it out [04:58:51] dangerous? [04:59:00] how are you dangerous with a language? [04:59:21] unless radical leftists kill you because you offended them [04:59:39] Althego: cause there is a range visibility issue [05:00:05] Althego: meaning they are worried the rocket might now be In Sight [05:00:09] not* [05:00:37] and yes, thats the 4th time ive made this joke today, sue me [05:02:11] Althego: of course, fog is probably one of the least predictable things that could cause a delay [05:02:14] so who knows [05:02:20] apparently google translate mistook customer service for a domestic abuse hotline https://twitter.com/glsfrg/status/991902858470608896 [05:02:21] ""google https://t.co/x5Au640Tuc [05:03:23] Althego, there are so many ways to endanger yourself with poor language skills I don't even know where to start [05:24:44] Action: Rokker wonders why there is non english in this channel [05:28:52] Rokker, 345? [05:29:24] THIS IS A CHANNEL OF RULES [05:29:35] NOT SOME ANARCHIST HOLE [05:29:47] Action: Rokker punches Gasher[work] in the name of justice [05:31:00] :) [06:18:38] Anyone know how to get the diameter of a vessel? [06:19:09] where? [06:19:48] Anytime in flight [06:20:03] idk then [06:20:16] maybe some KER HUDs? [06:20:47] oh, I meant through a plugin [06:21:42] no idea then [06:22:51] Gasher[work]: Do you know if KER does something like that [06:22:53] ? [06:23:19] i really don't know, needs to be checked [06:23:26] i mean, it migth have irt [06:23:28] * it [07:12:04] One should always use a trajectory through the middle of the moon when landing to avoid horizontal movement, right? [07:12:21] Or does it make more sense to use thrusters to compensate? [07:13:11] As opposed to entering orbit. [07:13:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:21:06] long url but this is kinda brilliant https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141003.11.27ff21c2y9fSde&scm=1007.10011.70203.100200300000001&id=535395574781&pvid=8191576c-4491-491e-b21d-2ea3d0d5f6a9 [09:23:14] GlassYuri: you got a real China fetish [09:23:45] TheKosmonaut, I've had that for over a year now [09:23:57] You should see a doctor [09:24:00] maybe even since I started language school [09:24:47] TheKosmonaut, you see it's the other people's fault [09:25:32] because many of them are chinese and they infected me [10:47:19] how about some music to distract you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ05v1YoIZQ [10:47:19] YouTube - Cro feat. Geekchester - Easy | NEO MAGAZIN ROYALE mit Jan Böhmermann - ZDFneo [10:47:53] on second thought, it contains a panda, so probably not helping :p [11:14:03] Howdy yall [13:13:27] BenjaminK: perhaps too late of a reply but iirc the engineering popup window in the VAB tells you your craft's dimensions [13:18:00] so i guessed that right [13:55:51] Lyneira: Just woke back up :p. Does that have a way of accessing it through the API? [14:01:11] Okay, new question [14:01:18] I found the engineers report [14:05:20] If I get a Vector3 of the size, would that be in meters (the distance)? [14:52:48] https://78.media.tumblr.com/4f0644f04838823aaec5914a574c9976/tumblr_ohhpycYYKH1ra4yyfo1_540.png [14:54:38] lol these people. liquid crystal polymer fan. hey it is not a jet turbine blade, just a pc cooling fan [14:54:45] https://techreport.com/news/33588/noctua-nf-a12-fan-puts-other-spinners-to-shame [14:55:37] why is the bird interesting? [14:58:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:59:15] it is having a nice sit down [15:00:03] It is having a nice sit down. [15:00:10] I don't like the colors of noctua fans [15:02:35] Spray paint. [15:02:55] Solves everything, including an absence of spray paint. [15:03:09] Don't like the color of the spray paint? Use a different spray paint. [15:03:16] It's better than duct tape. [15:08:14] the industrial spec ones are black [15:18:50] yes i hate the noctua color [15:18:57] but i doint have to watch them [15:19:06] i want to not hear them, which they do well [15:28:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:29:22] I solved the tail drift problem my heli had [15:29:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:31:08] my heli flies so much smoother now [15:31:49] nice [15:32:08] amazing what 4 turns of a ball link can do [15:32:42] Althego: no, I wont build a new computer just to have a reason to get those fans! :P [15:33:11] a smooth criminal [15:33:20] can it do moonwalking? [15:33:26] idk [15:33:39] but helis are some of the most dangerous rc vehicles [15:33:55] big rotors moving at 1200rpm [15:34:12] even mine could kill someone and it only has a 70cm rotor [15:34:19] but man it sounds nice [15:34:55] letting a hammer slip from a high building can, too. [15:35:04] so [15:35:06] :D [15:37:02] https://www.space.com/ is broadcasting a live station view right now. [15:39:23] hah, vut it is wide angle lens and cgi anyway :) [16:06:09] Althego: did you see the Blue Origin video from inside the capsule? [16:06:44] The voyage of Mannequin Skywalker [16:09:14] yes [16:09:21] More CGI? [16:24:03] Yes [16:26:22] I still need to make that video where Jebediah tries to convince a Flat Kerbiner that Kerbis isn't flat, and no matter what he sends the poor dude up in, he just will NOT change his mind. That is UNTIL Jeb gets so mad he sends the guy on an escape trajectory. [16:26:47] cant do that in reality [16:27:13] but one flat earther is on the quest to build a bigger rocket to go higher [16:29:09] The last time they tried it, it was horrible [16:32:24] https://www.banggood.com/Henglong-3828-126-27MHZ-German-Tiger-RC-Car-Battle-Tank-Simulated-With-Sound-Light-Toys-p-1268257.html?rmmds=mywishlist&cur_warehouse=CN [16:37:08] that's, interesting power bank but you can change the batteries inside https://www.banggood.com/HAWEEL-4x18650-Dual-USB-Ports-LED-Display-10000mAh-Battery-Case-Power-Bank-Box-for-S8-Mi6-Oneplus-i7-p-1191354.html?rmmds=flashdeals&cur_warehouse=CN [16:39:57] look at that cheapo tesla coil lmao https://www.banggood.com/DIY-Mini-Music-Teslas-Coil-Kit-Field-Loudspeaker-JX03-DIY-Project-Parts-p-1184210.html?rmmds=detail-bottom-alsobought__2&cur_warehouse=CN [16:40:01] doesn't even have a top load [16:47:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:51:12] https://youtu.be/OdB2AlQlLyk?t=86 [16:51:45] lol [16:52:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:56:31] the blades of the tail rotor of my heli can get to like 45° [16:56:39] that's pretty hard, good thing I won't need that much [17:03:37] ;choose as350|huey [17:03:38] Fluburtur: as350 [17:03:41] good [17:04:44] I want this fuselage http://www.robanmodel.com/cms/images/HSB-AS450YB-2.jpg [17:06:59] there is a website with that fuselage for 50$ and shipping is 70 [17:07:53] order it from china :) [17:08:07] banggood doesn't have scale fuselages [17:08:16] just real ones? :) [17:08:21] yeah [17:08:23] lol [17:08:32] and I would like one under 70¬ as well [17:08:33] not a bad long term goal [17:08:56] this is nice but expensive https://scaleflying.de/product_info.php?language=en&info=p33_as350-fiberglass-scale-body--civilian-version--450-size-.html [17:09:04] there were some series with the same gut titled * is born (car, airplane, chopper, boat, etc) [17:09:12] and he built those from scratch [17:09:44] I guess I could 3d print a fuselage [17:14:41] I will need a triblade head too if I get a as350 fuselage [17:15:01] have you got any blades on your head? [17:15:32] which one [17:15:39] hehe [17:21:15] there was a nice triblades head on banggood but it isn't there abymore [17:21:33] but it's more for the scale look when it is on the ground, you can't count the blades when a heli is flying [17:22:02] Fluburtur: beside Alibaba, aliexpress and Badgoogd do you know of any chinese websites where I could buy cheap stuff? [17:22:12] triblade propeller cap? :) [17:22:22] I want to try something with my dremel and I don,t want to destroy something valuable [17:22:23] well banggood is the only good one in there [17:22:35] bg has some cheap dremel stuff [17:23:10] I'm looking for a cheap radio or a cheap electronic device of some kind [17:23:39] want to destroy the insides and put a rPi (well OrangePi) in there [17:24:29] I already have a broken Zip Drive, a Broken Jazz drive, 2 old lamp radios and a DVD rewinder [17:26:52] ve2dmn: For that, you use flea markets/garage sales or 3D printers. ;-) [17:27:12] I did all thoses already [17:27:18] uh yeah will probably be faster and cheaper to make my own fuselage [17:28:49] The best thign I saw was this: https://www.amazon.ca/Jakks-VMIGO-Console-Dog-Handheld/dp/B000ETRFRI [17:28:56] guess I could use that https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/helicopters/eurocopter/eurocopter-as350-b2.GIF [17:29:10] it's like a Tamagotchi for the TV [17:29:19] ve2dmn: Handheld dogs sound certainly nice [17:29:53] ve2dmn: the nintendo switch of tomagachi [17:30:16] http://stevelitchfield.com/vmigo/fullpack.jpg [17:30:27] Action: APlayer cringes [17:30:42] Why is this even a thing... [17:31:04] with super hi-rez graphics: http://stevelitchfield.com/vmigo/tvversion.jpg [17:32:35] ho...my... there is a TV ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CjWvYAupT4 [17:32:35] YouTube - vmigo - virtual pet [17:33:44] Action: ve2dmn cringe [17:34:04] ve2dmn: that's bad. It's so bad, I had to turn it off and delete it from my browser history. [17:34:42] Mat2ch: kill the harddrive with fire. just to be sure. [17:35:58] I sterilized mine. Should have no residual viruses on it. [17:40:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:41:38] I'm basically looking for a 'PanaSONY Funstation' I can destroy for fun with a dremel [17:45:16] I changed the mechanical setup of my heli so I need to change the settings of the gyro [17:45:17] uh [17:48:22] ve2dmn: That would not remove the images from my head [18:03:32] Mat2ch: you need some eye-bleach for that [18:08:57] Have some eye-bleach: https://i.redd.it/tg8gt0u5emv01.jpg [18:10:30] APlayer: that solved it, thanks [18:16:53] Mat2ch: there is also http://www.kittenwar.com/ [18:36:18] I have a feeling dropping my external fuel tanks at mach 5 isn't going to end well [18:39:35] this plane cruises at 50% throttle at mach 4.75 =D [18:48:14] hehe [18:57:14] Is it possible to even go that fast in KSP without burning up? [19:04:44] barely [19:05:18] Draconiator: make your plane out of Ablators [19:08:35] https://i.imgur.com/6GNyiNe.png [19:09:00] my plane may be engulfed in flames but it still flew across the planey [19:09:05] **planet [19:09:37] Also I flew across the planet to rescue Valentina and apparently forgot a ladder https://i.imgur.com/DDgascp.png [19:10:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:10:12] That's Mach 4 [19:10:45] Anyway, pretty sure she can get in that door, Neal :P [19:10:56] Just lower the landing gear :) [19:11:15] that was mach 4.64.. and it got to mach 5 anyway [19:12:11] ,wa 1385 m/s in mach [19:12:17] ;wa 1385 m/s in mach [19:12:19] Deddly: convert 1385 m/s (meters per second) to Mach speeds: Mach speed 4.0703 [19:12:29] at sea level... [19:12:45] cruising altitude for that plane is 17km [19:12:57] Well I can only go by the picture you posted at 10k altitude :P [19:13:12] But I believe you [19:15:32] Neal: make port and starbord lights different colours [19:16:09] only possible in the editor also those are landing lights not navlights [19:18:24] https://i.gyazo.com/6516c8b6b6d318f8d724e13c9eddaee1.png - Still trying to perfect what I'm calling the Koyuz Groundlaunch...I think I'm gonna change the name though [19:19:15] dear god [19:19:51] ready for takeoff.. only burned 2 tanks of fuel on the way out here(dumped them already) https://i.imgur.com/CHFE9BA.png [19:22:21] Deddly, I'm suprised the landing gear trick worked. that used to just make the vessel explode spontaneously [19:22:41] Neal, depends if you have stuff clipped, usually :) [19:22:48] Glad it worked [19:26:09] I was a little too aggressive with the takeoff and got myself into a ballistic trajectory with an Ap of 50km =p [19:28:16] Heh. Sounds like your plane is nicely overpowered ;) [19:28:31] only 2 turboramjets suprisingly [19:28:57] They are very powerful engines. I bet that plane would take off with a single Juno [19:29:37] It's very small and light [19:30:32] I turned off aero heating dmg and now its cruising along at mach 5.01 [19:31:03] Aww. I bet you could get it to 1700 m/s without cheats [19:31:07] Want to know how? [19:31:32] In fact, you should be able to get faster than that without burning up [19:32:22] if I accelerate quick enough I could probably do it with the normal single seat plane command pod [19:32:27] that thing has a lot of thermal inertia [19:33:00] Want to know how to sustain >1800 m/s for quite some time without overheating? [19:33:41] Drink coke. [19:34:09] plane made of heatshields? [19:34:38] Action: APlayer just realized 1800 m/s is near orbital speed in stock [19:34:43] Whew. [19:35:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:35:40] just peaked at mach 5.10 at 12km [19:35:57] Neal: Now pitch up. [19:36:12] Will it go X-15 style? [19:36:15] first I gotta reset my pitch authorities [19:36:25] I set everything to ~5% lol [19:37:49] I set the pitch authorities to 100% and it still only pulled a 5G pullup... hmm [19:38:09] fuel drain has made it pretty noseheavy [19:38:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:38:53] Well, you can launch it anew [19:39:07] Here's how to do it: attach a medium landing gear close to the front of the plane, then use the offset tools to clip it partially inside the cockpit, but sticking out towards the front so it acts as a nose cone. This looks more aesthetically-pleasing if you face the landing gear backwards. Then of course keep that landing gear closed and disabled. The result is that it is the first part to hit the super-heated air, and it has - [19:39:08] as far as I remember - the highest heat tolerance in the game. [19:40:19] Aww, you had the perfect lemonade product placement opportunity there, and you did not seize it... :-( [19:40:42] I did? [19:41:10] "Want to know how to sustain >1800 m/s for quite some time without overheating?" [19:41:21] Action: Deddly doesn't get the reference [19:41:29] It's not a reference [19:41:52] I clip parts together for aethetics....I'm pretty sure everyone does that. [19:42:12] Howdy [19:42:26] You should have inserted some ad for some cold drink or ice there, and instead you went full serious. ;-) [19:42:27] Draconiator, but this is for functionality ;) [19:42:36] APlayer, ah [19:42:38] Hi, BadRocketsCo! [19:44:00] Want to know how to sustain >1800 m/s for quite some time without overheating? Buy our new LandingGear cool-aid! Hypersonic-aircraft pilots swear by it (and about it). [19:44:53] Action: APlayer approves. [19:45:11] Action: BadRocketsCo is angry because of something causing a weird roll in his recoverable first stage [19:45:12] Which is generally a rare thing, LOL [19:45:25] BadRocketsCo: Pics? [19:46:04] 1 sec [19:48:04] APlayer: https://imgur.com/tNfipHy [19:48:04] https://i.imgur.com/tNfipHy.png [19:49:15] https://i.gyazo.com/0a379516d2f8872ef6234e244fe6b9da.png - Made orbit, test payload launched....now I have to land the thing. [19:50:04] BadRocketsCo, on re-entry or on the way up? [19:50:13] BadRocketsCo: What wings are those? The foldable ones from some mod? [19:50:31] Deddly: on re-entry, yeah [19:50:35] APlayer: and yup [19:50:50] BadRocketsCo: Can I see the right-click menu of those? [19:51:08] BadRocketsCo, does it have reaction wheels? They often work against control surfaces in such situations [19:51:35] Deddly, https://i.imgur.com/5mqGaGa.png [19:51:43] this is going to go stupid fast [19:51:51] Control surfaces are also often reversed when going backwards [19:52:02] Neal, nice! [19:52:15] Neal, I think the larger gear have higher heat tolerance [19:52:46] Neal: When at Mach 5: "Engage Solid Rocket Boosters" [19:53:08] Please do it :D [19:53:14] place your bets as to what will happen when I light the SRBs at mach 5 at 15km [19:53:16] Don't forget to turn atmospheric heating back on, though [19:53:27] they're also place slightly off the CoM sooo... [19:53:34] o yeah forgot about heating [19:53:38] Deddly: it still spins even if the control surfaces are folded [19:53:54] BadRocketsCo: What happens if you instead use AIRBRAKES (tm)? [19:53:59] Has to be something about the body, or the wings are just glitchy instead [19:54:18] Neal, I think you'll maybe punch it up to 1900 m/s and then the gear with explode, closely followed by the cockpit [19:54:25] with/will [19:54:43] APlayer: hmm, haven't tested. May have to give it a try. [19:54:45] might escape the atmo first [19:54:52] I tend to blame the wings. I had similar issues, fixed them by disabling KRE grid fins' deploy [19:55:03] BadRocketsCo, does it have reaction wheel torque? [19:55:09] Deddly: nope [19:55:25] Neal: I really want this to go suborbital [19:56:19] BadRocketsCo, I can see a couple of small things that look like RCS thrusters at the bottom left. [19:56:49] the extra weight in the back makes it pitch too much and bleed speed [19:56:55] BadRocketsCo, they don't appear to be symmetrical. That could easily cause unwanted rotation [19:57:01] got an Ap of 62km [19:57:13] Neal, speed achieved? [19:57:31] only around <1600 [19:57:33] m/s [19:57:36] :/ [19:57:45] OK do rebalancing needed :) [19:57:51] im going to try again with a better flight profile [19:57:52] Or just drain some fuel [19:58:15] Deddly: nope, they're symmetrical. [19:58:18] ...or widen the engines and add a third one in the middle [19:58:54] BadRocketsCo, weird. They totally don't look like it [19:59:13] shallower ascent profile, got mach 5.7, 1723m/s [19:59:27] Nice [20:00:00] BadRocketsCo: Remove the gear, wings and RCS thrusters and see what it does. If that fixes it, re-add those three one by one. [20:00:05] ;wa 1723 m/s to mach [20:00:13] Deddly: convert 1723 m/s (meters per second) to Mach speeds: Mach speed 5.0636 [20:00:24] I think at higher altitudes, Mach numbers are higher [20:00:26] Your mach numbers are a little off there, Neal [20:00:30] no they're not [20:00:33] And KER provides the exact readout [20:00:37] APlayer: aight, testing. [20:00:41] speed of sound decreases with altitude [20:00:44] Ah [20:00:53] yeah ker shows exact mach [20:00:55] I wasn't accounting for that. This is true [20:01:43] Wut [20:02:06] I was redirected to some weird windows phishing ad site from imgur [20:02:15] I get they too occasionally [20:02:15] Those ads on imgur are getting real bad [20:02:41] people kept telling me I had adware installed but it's only happened on imgur over the past 3 years... [20:03:05] It's the ads on imgur, I am pretty much sure [20:04:05] I gotta turn off my computer, there are people using jackhammers 7ft away and its probably not good for my hard drives [20:04:14] laptop's ssd only tho [20:04:37] It's just unlikely it's anything else on my PC. I've only had one virus in all time, and this is the only symptom I am getting right now, only on imgur. Must be the ads. [20:04:58] Also, why Jackhammers and 7ft away? [20:05:17] Are they breaking up your office's floor or something? [20:05:22] tearing up my patio [20:05:47] Can you not move farther away than 7ft, though? [20:06:08] https://i.gyazo.com/2e2175c708bfef1c22d7f57a790505bb.png [20:07:13] APlayer, that's why I use an ad blocker even on sites that I would like to support [20:09:54] its a desktop with like 13 things plugged in the back panel so its not going anywhere [20:10:10] It's sad that the advertisement industry is deteriorating. It doesn't have to, but it does. [20:14:01] im back [20:14:27] Draconiator is that a new version of the thing? [20:14:35] Hi back! I'm front. :-) [20:14:39] lmao [20:15:18] I tried to join the chanel you sent me but it didn't go right [20:17:32] How so? [20:17:44] I think I tried on the wrong network actually [20:18:28] uh I forgot how to add a server on hexchat [20:18:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:19:18] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:24:50] lmao this guy cut his own tail https://youtu.be/ynFgnThVPJU?t=180 [20:29:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:56:12] Anyway, I've got to go. But see you tomorrow! :-) [20:57:34] Seeya APlayer [20:57:42] Fluburtur, wow, that's quite something [21:00:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0VLjUtucU0 [21:00:14] YouTube - Maiden Hover Rc Vtol Harrier Prototype model [21:08:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:18:28] I should probably start working on my RC adf-01 Falken as well [21:18:34] I want to claim the first flying rc one [22:56:29] Hey [23:18:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:21:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net