[02:33:50] ;outcome add You experience several dozen anomalies during launch. [02:33:51] raptop: Added outcome: You experience several dozen anomalies during launch. [02:34:00] ;mission [02:34:01] raptop: You attempt to hijack a fully-fueled and ready-to-launch rocket sitting on the pad. Danny2462 thinks you're crazy. [02:34:10] >P> [02:34:13] <_< [03:15:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:21:57] raptop: Instead of adding canards to your aircraft, someone has instead drawn a crude map of Canada. A flock of geese asking for directions delay the launch. This is grossly ethical. [03:22:31] hehe [03:22:45] lol [03:22:48] ;mission [03:22:48] XXCoder: You make a vehicle out of physicsless parts. The Kraken pays a surprise visit. [03:22:59] surprise? nah [03:25:51] XXCoder: You attempt to re-create the Orion mission and synchronise it with the real-world livestream. While you weren't looking, Kerbin's atmosphere gets left behind by the planet's motion. [03:26:48] eh... firefly launch failed [03:26:56] very high up [05:41:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:06:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [08:06:39] oh no, i was watchin ina minacraft from yesterday and i missed hakos live [08:29:20] !mission [08:29:20] Mat2ch: You decide to do nothing today. Circus clowns replace your monopropellant with a mixture of unicycles and fake noses. [08:33:18] lol [08:33:46] because you did nothing. you could have fortrified your position against circus clowns [10:29:32] Althego: btw, did you see the Firefly launch? They did go sideways... [10:29:38] in Kerbal style! [10:29:41] hehe [10:29:45] in replay only [10:29:52] i missed both of the explosive launches [10:29:55] because they were too late [10:30:06] or to early not sure [10:30:33] and i tried to watch the astra the first time and thre was a scrub, and for the next one i was too tired to stay up [10:30:51] the firefly was even more interesting [10:31:03] but didnt want to wake up around 3 [10:32:47] I only watch the replays of them, too, if they're too late [10:33:14] partly fault of irys [10:33:21] because she starts stream usually around 5 [10:33:27] and that is why i am so tired [11:34:26] 1337 [12:34:49] 1337 [12:37:17] we could have a perpetual rolling leet hourly if there were enough people (1 in each time zone) [14:04:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg [14:04:45] russian spacewalk [14:33:18] What do you think A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.S. stand for? [14:33:35] airbrakes [14:34:59] bruh [14:35:07] i mean in ksp [14:37:28] Aerodynamically Integrated Retrograde Braking Robustly Armed Kinetic Extending System [14:37:36] otherwise known as airbrakes [14:37:47] cool cool [14:38:26] it's also cool how Starship SN-20 is gonna be the largest rocket ever launched in 50 years [14:39:05] and if it goes like this, sls will never launch [14:39:17] i think thye needed to launch this year, ebcause there was ome part warranty that expires [14:40:09] then NASA needs to step up their game [14:40:19] more like boeing. they will not [14:41:24] it's funny how Blue Origin's first orbital flight will be from launching inside the cargo bay of a Starship [14:41:40] how so? [14:42:02] Since SpaceX and Blue Origin are competetors [14:42:13] It's kinda strange how they would work together [14:42:21] Unless they're both making bank from it [14:42:34] i mean what mission does this arrangement? [14:42:43] I'm not sure yet [14:42:52] SN-20 still has to happen [14:43:00] at this point i am pretty sure blue origin is never going to be orbital [14:43:12] or maybe in 10 more years [14:43:23] you're probably right [14:43:24] but with spacex that is pretty much never [14:43:35] by that time spacex takes over everything [14:43:41] SpaceX is beating Blue Origin by a long shot [14:44:00] it's also weird how China is trying to copy SpaceX and the Starship [14:44:10] https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/on-approach-to-the-space-station [14:44:18] even though they worked with Musk in building the Tesla [14:44:24] blue origin orbital rockets: 0. spacex: 3.5 (falcon 1, falcon 9, flacon heavy, starship) [14:44:48] true [14:44:49] also first full flow stage combustion engien ever flown [14:45:41] i also don't see Blue Origin making a new rocket every few weeks [14:45:58] how many new shepards they have? [14:46:21] 15 [14:46:25] As of June 2021 [14:46:29] that is a lot [14:46:37] for one launch every few months [14:46:39] The first was built in November tho [14:46:41] they could get by with one [14:46:43] of 2105 [14:46:47] 2015* [14:48:47] i think spacex has fewer boosters, and they launch into orbit, and can do it every two weeks [14:49:24] that's cause they have reusability skill [15:03:43] SpaceX installed StageRecovery [15:04:19] kikkerikii [15:14:28] h [15:45:43] communism or capitalism [15:46:34] communism doesnt work [15:46:40] capitalism is horrible [15:46:54] yeah both are bad [15:46:57] and this is where we stop [15:47:05] stop what [15:47:09] no politics [15:47:15] ok [16:38:34] mrrf [16:40:52] ok [16:45:36] Elon Musk is definitely the most degenerate Millennial in the world, change my mind [16:45:51] ... [16:46:17] can you? [16:46:48] 1) Humans by in large do not consist of things like metals, so the whole "room temperature/pressure exhibiting electron degeneracy" isn't a thing [16:46:53] 2) He was born in 1971 (gen x) [16:47:45] 1) that's not what i meant [16:47:55] 2) Gen X isn't millennial? [16:48:08] No [16:48:53] o [16:49:02] well then let me rephrase [16:49:29] Elon Musk is the most "Gen Z-like" Gen X in the world. Change my mind. [16:49:51] Using the defs proposed by Strauss & Howe: (1901-1924); Silent Generation (1925-1942); Baby Boom Generation (1943-1960); Generation X (1961-1981); Milenial Generation (1982-2004) [16:50:20] I believe that the consensus has pushed around a number of those by a few years (in particular millenials ending in like 1996) [16:52:10] bruh [16:52:57] What's Gen Z? [16:53:14] (2005 - 2017?) [16:53:34] because there's a Gen Alpha now [16:53:49] Unclear exactly where the line between z and α is [16:53:56] Give it another decade? [16:54:01] ok [16:54:15] but still, can you change my mind [16:54:49] so besides birthdate what defines these "gen"s ? [16:55:08] i guess nothing besides birthdate [16:55:29] or maybe [16:55:31] They birthdate is factual. No way to compare to a different Gen group [16:55:38] birth dates and the associated events, economic and political conditions, etc [16:56:23] elon is not even am illenial lol [16:56:32] Gens are basically Eras and Ages [16:56:49] By the definitiion above I'm Gen X [16:56:52] Like we could call the Space Age the Space Era, or the Space Generation [16:56:56] My semi-serious description would be: Boomers don't remember WW2, Xers don't remember Kennedy, Millenials don't remember Vietnam, Zoomers don't remember the Cold War. (presumably α won't remember the War On Terror(tm)) [16:57:01] however i try i cant get this knife to have a usable edge [16:57:08] By the definition above, I'm a Gen Z [16:57:25] I’m also generally X. [16:57:30] Althego: ...stabbing things? [16:57:31] he speaks [16:57:43] no, it is a common knife [16:57:52] used for stabbing things [16:57:59] doesnt even cut tomatos anymore [16:58:25] that must be a VERY dull knife [16:59:01] and/or soft tomatoes [16:59:25] probably older than me [16:59:39] it's probably dull enough to be used as a fish stunner if you go fishing [16:59:56] you just smack it on the head and the fish stops moving [17:00:12] you'd probably kill it though, instead of stunning it [17:06:42] I hope KSP2 has a Raptor-Equivalent Liquid Fuel Engine [17:07:26] It would probably be straightforward enough to add, given that KSP1 has an off-brand SSME [17:08:25] And the KS-25 Engine is EXTREMELY over-powered, too. [17:08:38] small area high thrust [17:08:45] Yes [17:08:54] It's a size-2 engine stat-wise [17:09:01] also high gimbal angle [17:09:16] i like to use it for eve sacent behicles, it performs well [17:10:05] I also hope that if they add a Raptor Engine, it has a sea-level and vacuum configuration [17:13:09] probably *gestures vaguely at the LV-T30 and T45* [17:16:03] The Swivel and Reliant engines would be great for a small-scale Starship [17:17:05] the only problem is [17:17:16] making a superheavy booster at the same scale [17:21:54] wait, does the superheavy's raptors have gimbal? [17:26:42] i think they do [17:31:01] the center ones [17:31:13] the side oens are too closely packed [17:34:04] i see [17:34:23] maybe you could make the engines all swivels [17:34:34] but lock the gimbal on the outer engines [17:35:05] but that's still a lot of engines [17:35:35] i dont know if you'd be able to fit 29 or 32 swivels in a 3.75m diameter [17:39:09] fwiw, I'm a 1st generation Digital Native :) born 1976, I don't remember a life without "personal computers" in the house [17:46:27] do you guys think the devs will fix the symmetry glitch in KSP2? [17:46:53] i was born later but i do [17:47:00] we didnt even have a phone. you know wired one [17:49:27] TwistenX: maybe. KSP2 will have a completely new set of bugs ;) [17:49:56] did you know ksp2 will not only have destructible buildings... [17:50:02] BUT DESTRUCTIBLE TERRAIN [17:50:18] KSP 1 already has. ask that danny guy [17:50:55] not like that [17:51:06] not spaghetti-fying the planet [17:51:17] i mean you can create craters [17:52:04] that sounds interesting [17:52:51] yes [17:54:19] have any of you ever built your own capsule in ksp? [17:54:23] like [17:54:57] building it out of fairing pieces, disabling the fairing stage, and putting EVA seats inside [17:55:24] I've returned to KSP in the last week. seen everything in Elite Dangerous that is to see, I guess. been playing on a GTA RP server some nights, too, but most of the players are in the wrong timezone [17:56:33] TwistenX: two of my favourite KSP streamers often do that (jakeinaboat, backslashjack). I just don't have the knack for making it as aesthetic, I guess [17:56:49] EJ ist too loud, I don't like watching him, tbh [17:57:22] and linuxgurugamer likes working on mods more than playing KSP, he said ;) [17:59:02] hm [17:59:06] jake uses SSTU. that mod just has too many options for my taste but it can build almost anything from basic parts [17:59:51] and they are not afraid of clipping things [18:02:47] I like the Dragon Fly. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1136379386?t=01h55m10s [18:04:06] SSTU? [18:04:50] a mod with extensibly customizable parts - https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/117090-wip18x-sstulabs-low-part-count-solutions-orbiters-landers-lifters-dev-thread-11-18-18/ [18:04:56] oh [18:05:48] i can't download mods for KSP anyway because i play on console :, ) [18:06:04] oh, I see [18:06:13] huh, I guess no custum flags or mods for you [18:06:21] er, wait, you said no mods [18:06:32] i really need to get the money to download it onto my PC [18:06:51] i can pay for the game, but not the game and the two DLCs [19:08:54] did you know that if you eat 40'000 bananas in 10 minutes you would die of radiation poisoning [19:09:51] hehe [19:10:00] probably not even then [19:10:14] idk [19:10:22] there was an xkcd radiation chart [19:10:28] bananas are tiny [19:10:34] potassium has a small amount of a certain type of radiation that dies out quickly [19:10:46] and bananas have loads of potassium [19:10:48] it is bad for any radiation if you get it from the inside [19:10:58] but still, bananas are barely radioactive [19:11:02] BARELY [19:11:06] but they still are [19:11:09] I'd wager that you'd die before reaching 40k bananas [19:11:24] yeah but what if you have an infinite stomach [19:11:49] https://xkcd.com/radiation/ [19:12:04] restricted website moment [19:12:08] :,) [19:12:34] wot [19:12:45] im on my school computer rn [19:12:54] lol [19:13:24] im gonna make a LEGO Starship and send it to LEGO as an Ideas Set [19:13:31] and they ban a scienc-y site? [19:13:32] tsk [19:13:38] ikr [19:13:56] it says banana is 0.1 uSv, while a head ct is 2 mSv [19:14:12] what is a head ct [19:14:12] and even with that you are still far from getting sick from it [19:14:46] that's why you have to eat 40'000 of them in 10 minutes [19:14:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CT_scan [19:15:00] that'll be enough to poison you [19:15:10] 40'000 bananas in 10 minutes [19:18:08] TwistenX: Potassium content in bananas is overhyped. It's not in this list: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalium#Kaliumgehalte_in_Lebensmitteln [19:18:35] whic hyoutuber was that collected it from bananas? [19:18:38] cody's lab? [19:18:40] yes [19:18:49] scott [19:18:57] firefly -> fireball [19:19:00] even if there isn't a lot [19:19:18] And you'd die from potassium poisoning than from radiation poisoning. [19:19:40] probably [19:19:53] 40'000 bananas eaten in 10 minutes would still kill you of radiation poisoning if nothing else does it first [19:19:56] plays an important role in the cells [19:20:03] 20 g KCl i.v. will stop your heart. [19:20:06] no it wouldnt [19:20:25] i mean the bananas wouldnt [19:20:56] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erXrnvyuhJs [19:22:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana#Potassium [19:22:50] what have i started [19:22:57] BS [19:23:19] you didnt start me [19:23:27] (look at the real name) [19:23:28] i started this argument [19:23:29] Action: darsie read 'stated'. [19:23:51] where [19:25:25] 16bit Starship Simulator releasing on GameJolt when? [19:25:25] In my mind. Instead of 'started'. [19:25:30] that reminds me of http://www.tricorderproject.org/blog/tag/openct/ [19:25:41] very long exposure times, though [19:27:36] ok [19:53:57] 40,000 bananas contain about 15 kg potassium. 0.012 mol% are 40-K or 4.6 mol. With a half life of 1.251E9 years that's 49 MBq. In about 89.28% of events, it decays to calcium-40 (40Ca) with emission of a beta particle (β−, an electron) with a maximum energy of 1.31 MeV and an antineutrino. Idk how much energy the antineutrino carries away, so I'll go with half that energy and get 4.5 µSv/s. [19:53:57] That's 2.7 mSv in 10 min. A single full-body CT scan is 10-30 mSv. One of us is wrong. [19:57:08] but twinsenx has quit already [19:57:30] Wait, Sv is J/kg, and a human has 70 kg. So divide by 70. [19:57:51] Yes, but I'm storing the message here for when he comes back. [20:03:06] That's one issue with bogus claims. It takes too much time to refute them in a discussion instantly. [20:03:10] often [20:04:46] unless you are already prepared [20:05:05] Hmm, he didn't say you'd die in 10 minutes, but eat them in 10 minutes. How long is the potassium supposed to remain in the body? [20:05:16] and then they'll just divert to another argument [20:05:18] more than 10 minutes [20:05:45] Action: packbart spent some time in Ufo and conspiracy groups on Usenet many years ago [20:06:19] i was debating creationists on mailing lists some 20 years ago [20:06:19] it's fun when you can demonstrate that two of their arguments cannot be true at the same time but need to for their theory to work [20:06:26] mental implosions follow [20:08:12] How long does the potassium stay in the body if you eat 4 tons of bananas in 10 minutes and you don't die ... [20:48:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:57:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:58:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:08:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net