[00:19:38] Yeah, let's spend rest of the night watching these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgqCBe79MQU [00:19:38] YouTube - BPPV: Why Is It Not Improving? [00:34:20] How can i get planes to take off straight? [00:34:37] Balance the planes perfectly [00:35:04] take off stright? [00:35:15] what do you mean? [00:35:17] Landing gear placement? [00:35:37] Also, canards are surprisingly helpful. [00:35:44] What's a canard [00:35:54] control surface int he front of the plane [00:35:55] "An unfounded rumour or story" [00:36:06] you know the rafale or the gripen? [00:36:06] Action: UmbralRaptor duct tapes theholyduck to the front of HotSpicySausage's plane. [00:36:11] this is what i have https://imgur.com/a/k0SL2 [00:36:12] https://i.imgur.com/myQrtu3.jpg [00:36:16] the plane keeps verring off the runway [00:36:19] it's the tiny wings on the nose [00:36:20] wheels should be straight [00:36:27] that's bad alnding gears then [00:36:33] UmbralRaptor: theholyduck ? You sure you didn't want to duct tape me? :) [00:36:39] added another picture [00:36:54] bad landing gears? Fluburtur [00:36:58] Flappy canards [00:37:03] might be bending [00:37:11] I have planes that fly well without sas if you want [00:38:34] Kalpa: well, your nick isn't a punny? [00:38:55] Hey UmbralRaptor [00:39:04] hi? [00:39:11] Got a question for you [00:39:37] UmbralRaptor: Well, they hadn't said anything in a while, meanwhile I was teasing about canards... [00:40:11] hm [00:40:25] ZooNamedGames: okay, ask? [00:40:35] I did, in a IRC PM [00:41:14] I hope you can access that :/ [00:42:05] & yes [00:42:24] I think i fixed my problem [00:42:27] disabled steering and SAS [00:42:33] the reaction wheels [01:50:23] kingsman 2 is pretty good [01:50:32] action scenes still as good and over the top [01:50:45] and Elton John kicking S [01:54:47] https://78.media.tumblr.com/b3d0c28b239f15279d5119d7bb00f3d9/tumblr_nmp1z4yFF41rznn4wo1_500.jpg [02:06:59] glorious [02:37:45] Works [02:41:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:05:37] https://i.imgur.com/QHt6Buz.jpg [03:40:16] I know it's probably not you type of game, but I've been playing 'Shadow Tatics: Blades of the Shogun' and It's a nice Tatics Real Time Strategy [03:40:21] your* [03:42:07] Action: UmbralRaptor RTS, assumes that there's a bushi rush, or something that dominates at all skill levels below semipro, and remains viable there. [03:42:19] s/RTS/hears RTS/ [03:44:14] Think Thief, not Starcarft [03:44:43] First Person Sneaker? [03:44:50] You have a mission and you need to be remain undetected if you want thinkgs to go smoothly [03:45:28] but it's an overheard view popular with RTS games [03:47:06] http://store.steampowered.com/app/418240/Shadow_Tactics_Blades_of_the_Shogun/ [03:48:52] How can I get RCS to only work for translation and not rotation? [03:48:59] so i don't waste propellant [03:49:45] Action: UmbralRaptor doesn't meet the minimum requirements. [03:50:08] HotSpicySausage: docking mode, maybe? [03:50:47] that sounds uncannily similar to another turn-based strategy game I saw somewhere, but with a different theme [03:51:36] Arcanitor: Commandos? [03:53:06] it was some techno dystopia thing [03:53:31] Invisible, Inc.? [03:53:40] that's the one [03:53:59] We live in one. [03:54:26] ConductingCat: i've already used my political rant allocations for the day [03:54:42] :3 [03:54:56] Politics detected. Purge. Purge. Purge. [03:55:39] Soon we can become Shadowrunners for real. [03:55:49] Treason detected. *ZAP!* [03:55:53] i can argue about one entirely non-political topic before i have to take a long rest [03:56:18] Argue + non-political, this makes no sense [03:56:38] Kalpa: Should pineapple go on pizzas? [03:56:51] Does the price of chocolate frogs count as political? [03:56:58] UmbralRaptor: Absolutely yes. [03:57:05] :D [03:57:11] And this is a highly political topic. [03:57:32] I'm sure there's an ananas pizza party (political party) somewhere in the world [03:58:15] Next up you'll be wondering "What is this ananas he speaks of?" [03:58:22] Well that's what the rest of the world calls pineapple [03:59:41] pineapple only goes on hawaiian pizza [04:00:00] and hawaiian pizza is only acceptable if there is no veggie pizza to be had [04:00:20] Hawaiian Pizza isn't even from Hawaii. It was invented in Toronto [04:00:32] Whatever, there's a pretty common toppings combination here called 'Americano', usually involves 1) ananas 2) blue cheese 3) ham [04:00:53] ... And why is it called that? [04:00:56] ve2dmn: that feels like a line from Canadian Bacon. [04:01:24] Another common (and rather delicious) one is 'Romeo', which is pretty much the same but adds shrimp and replaces ham with salami [04:01:38] Kalpa: 2 should be something like cheddar, and 3 should be bacon. [04:01:40] Hawaiian pizza is a travesty and is the single greatest crime to humanity in all the universes history. [04:01:45] UmbralRaptor: even better: the guy who invented it doesn't even makes his own pizza at home. He buy frozen pizza because he 'made enough already' [04:02:03] Hah! [04:02:13] UmbralRaptor: Anything involving bacon more often than not gets labeled as something 'BBQ', and usually comes with a generic bbq sauce [04:02:23] Of course pizza joints are numerous, and the labeling varies a lot [04:02:47] Kalpa: excuse me while i find my +2 radiant shortsword so i can exterminate this heresy [04:03:55] Bacon is one of the more rare pizza toppings tbh [04:04:43] Your generic pizza joint may have one or two house recipes with bacon, but ofttimes it's just an option when you go full custom pizza [04:04:46] Kalpa: I think anchovies is the rarest where I am [04:04:56] P O L I T I X [04:05:05] Oh yeah certainly not same level of rarity as anchovies [04:05:08] They're virtually non-existent nowadays [04:05:10] (and yes, pineapple pizza should be outlawed) [04:05:27] UmbralRaptor: This will get out of hand, and it's all your own fault. [04:07:07] If I become Grand Poobah of the dominion of earth, I will make consumption and creation of Hawaiian pizza punishable by death. [04:07:19] Death by pineapple juice bath [04:08:03] Does chicken egg go on pizza? [04:08:20] No [04:08:43] At least you have some opinions right! [04:08:56] What about kebab meat? I find kebab meat on pizza a sacrilege. [04:09:13] Theyre not opinion. This is law under the Holy Grand Imperium and Dominion of Terra [04:09:14] Although the subject of what constitutes kebab meat is debatable on itself... [04:09:38] Literally remove kebab from pizza [04:10:20] Darnit is this a Europa Universalis joke... I'm not entirely sure >_> [04:10:23] Pizza beast egg [04:10:27] Only acceptable of it's a Mediterranean "pizza" [04:10:29] Kalpa: that too :P [04:10:59] UmbralRaptor: We are || this close to balkan chat now [04:11:06] Look at what you've done! [04:11:07] Ottoman Pizza, serving the best kebabzza since 1453 [04:12:21] Cant have Balkan chat if Balkan clay kebab clay [04:18:56] was reading a thread from Reddit (about the 90s) and was reminded of https://html5zombo.com/ [04:19:10] (sadly the original Zombo.com required Flash) [04:20:46] Time to visit bash.org [04:20:58] Anything is possible with Zombo " [04:22:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:22:48] Oh no, the cynephobn is at it again [04:23:53] Finally landed on the mun and return to kerbin with all my realism mods and no quick save [04:23:59] FINALLY [04:25:31] My first mun landing ended in a disaster with a flipped rocket when it was already landed [04:25:34] but it tipped over [04:25:46] where i tried to take off while the rocket was on its side but it exploded [04:26:08] And before that, I messed up the maneuver where i missed the mun [04:31:46] http://bash.org/?653976 [04:48:05] TIL the Rapier can "cruise" at 24k at 1km/s [04:54:51] It's a race -- can my plane reach the waypoint before Advent of Code day four is released [04:55:43] OH YEA that exists [04:59:22] Oh is it around again? I only got to the end of day 1 last time [05:02:48] ooh, I should start that [05:05:58] Mathuin: it can cruise at 22k at 1.5km/s [05:13:40] Done with the challenges for today. Ranked 580 and 625 on this one. [05:28:42] bees: that is one heck of a bumpy ride [05:49:23] And finally! That super annoying contract is done. [05:50:41] The next oldest contract I have is extracting ore. I've never actually done that. [05:59:47] any location requirements? [06:00:08] if none just make mining rover and go to nearest place you can mine on kerbal [06:02:11] It's gotta be done on Mun. Will have to look at the wiki to see what a good mining rover is. [06:02:43] lol ok. I still remember that weird ksp bug that allows anyone mine their own fuel tank, filling it. [06:02:58] tank on base I mean [06:13:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v mr_flea' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:33:39] Rolf: eh? [06:34:22] taniwha: there was this silly bug where guy could build a mining rover, drive to fuel thingy at ksp base, and mine it [06:34:31] it gives infinite fuel [06:35:28] That doesn't sound like a bug, it sounds like a feature. [06:35:47] there's that, but it also sounds incoherent [06:35:51] Especially if selling fuel at that distance is literally zero funds. [06:36:28] Or maybe drilling into the tank should make the tank explode; and take out the drill you're using. [06:36:38] it simply dont work now I think [06:36:39] why would it explode? [06:36:45] fuel, and sparks [06:36:54] Rapid oxidation. [06:36:58] my dad has welded fuel tanks [06:37:07] by filling them with fuel [06:37:24] Welding doesn't cause leaks, quite the opposite. [06:37:42] lots of sparks and heat near fuel and air :P [06:37:52] (fuel due to leak being welded shut) [06:38:45] he had to do that when I was little: my parents were traveling around the Australian outback and got a hole in the fuel tank [06:38:49] Except that the fuel inside cannot burn, because it does not contain oxygen; along with the fact that welding introduces more material, not less. [06:38:58] dad welded it shut while mom kept me at a safe distance [06:39:29] KrazyKrl: that's exactly why the tank did not explode: it was full of fuel instead of a fuel-air mix [06:39:32] It probably wasn't a pressurized, possibly cryogenic, fuel storage. [06:39:49] still wouldn't necessarily explode [06:40:09] Drilling into that spherical tank wouldn't really explode... as much as it would burst, mix with air, and be ignited by the hot drill interface. [06:40:25] it might not burst [06:40:42] yes, balloons do, but not much engineering goes into balloons [06:41:10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr15rPHEmeQ [06:41:10] YouTube - Propane Tank Explosion [06:42:14] many many factors [06:42:28] (not saying it's a good idea to go drilling into fuel tanks, though) [06:42:50] saying only that there's no guarantee it will explode [06:43:33] (and since it's a fixed surface installation, it might very well be over-engineered) [08:25:46] Neat propane tank. [08:27:15] Hmm..... would it make more sense to have the pressure relief valve pop open and stay open to fully vent the tank without an explosion? [08:27:21] A rupture disk. [08:28:30] I've always wondered why the tanks blow up when they have relief valves and the answer is the fire weakens the metal and it ruptures below the relief valve pressure. [08:29:18] but but but, jet fuel cannot melt steel [tanks]! [08:29:22] ;) [08:29:30] (doesn't need to) [08:29:56] It would make even more sense to have a temperature sensitive rupture valve like a fire sprinkler. If there is lots of heat, it trips and fully vents the tank resulting in a flamethrower but no explosion. If it isn't at risk of weakening and exploding, the normal pressure valve does all the work from overpressure. [08:31:27] That single relief valve does give you plenty of time to run away. [09:23:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:40:06] What organization regulates who can land what ships on what planets (IRL) and do they have any enforcement powers? [09:40:24] What is actually stopping Elon from cratering a Tesla into Mars? [09:42:41] the FAA regulates things up to a certain height [09:42:53] but nobody really has any actual power to stop elon from doing it if he wants to [09:43:04] save for someone's military [09:43:15] save for telecommunications :) [09:43:19] who could blow up the rocket on the pad or something [09:43:24] haha [09:43:29] disconnect [09:43:34] them too, but they'd have to get clever about it [09:43:55] and then find a way to still convince spacex to launch their next iridium sat ;) [09:46:59] So there are no fines in place for launching biological payloads to other planets and contaminating them? [09:48:29] well legislation is a thing not set in stone so i'd say one can find oneself in interesting position after doing so [09:55:10] there is the UN's outer space treaty [09:55:21] but I'm not sure if that does anything at all about an independent corporate approach [09:56:30] I wonder how you get a sterilized payload onto the rocket in the first place [09:56:33] without contaminating it [09:57:06] You do your best to ensure the inside is clean then rely on vacuum and cosmic radiation to finish off what's on the outside. [09:57:27] 6 months of irradiating death is not kind to life. [10:54:29] ... and then there's tardigrades [11:05:21] You have to dehydrate them and shield them from direct sunlight. [11:05:35] And then it's like 80% kill rate after .... don't remember the timeline. [11:05:47] The ones exposed to sunlight all died. [11:06:10] unless its a water bear [11:06:19] then it laughs at your pathitic attempt to kill it [11:08:10] that's what we're talking about [11:08:33] oh yes forgot scienfic name of tardigrades lol [11:29:19] They die when exposed to raw sunlight. [11:29:25] There were no survivors. [11:31:19] so they die in raw sunlight eh [11:31:21] interesting [11:32:19] I read a pretty good summary of the study and remember some of it. The ones that lived were exposed to cosmic rays but were in the shade. ~80% death rate. The ones without shade all died. [11:32:53] Behold, the power of Ra [11:33:06] even water bears die by it] [11:33:09] ;( [11:33:12] er ;) [11:42:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:00:53] F [13:04:01] https://78.media.tumblr.com/0e3331756f53e0a02e4fc41e0ba7b59a/tumblr_oqh6o20UFX1vp2ixso1_400.jpg [13:06:39] https://78.media.tumblr.com/e26fe0687a0435fc9153123c2300010b/tumblr_inline_p039q7Wi8z1t6s5jk_540.jpg [13:09:45] and then he falls over and crushes the display. :D [13:10:03] it's a gopnik he doesn't care [13:10:29] https://78.media.tumblr.com/3e22431a6ba268dc21de9b2afde9e14e/tumblr_nrmnivs7S61tu0z5no1_540.jpg [13:13:43] supreme champion? [13:14:01] yes [13:14:11] https://78.media.tumblr.com/e1c99893c21ff259ca86d4b680584d3c/tumblr_inline_nbckjkugKs1s77xmy.gif [13:18:19] what's going on with the supreme champion? [13:18:30] yes [13:19:51] I don't get it [13:20:10] yes [13:20:42] have you ever been to an agricultural show? [13:21:02] so elon just lied abot the car? [13:21:17] what [13:22:08] No way could he pass up that news coverage. [13:22:21] https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-is-sending-a-tesla-roadster-into-space-on-the-1820944174 [13:22:35] TRAITOR [13:23:47] Well I guess I'm not going to see the launch. I'm angry. [13:23:54] hehe [13:26:14] How could he pass up something so amazing. [13:26:27] He came up with the most crazy idea that would get everyone interested in the rocket and then blew it. [13:26:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:35:34] I've seen lots of people posting stuff like "before we even set foot on Mars, wie put space junk up there" and most of them have no clue about orbital mechanics [13:35:38] it's sad :| [13:36:06] they think of space junk as something random, something that clutters up space. But one giant car is not the problem [13:36:16] we already have 'space junk' on mars :P [13:36:25] yeah, that, too. :D [13:36:35] stupid stupid people [13:36:41] yep [13:37:01] Most don't even know that Viking 1 and 2 are there [13:37:02] man this batch of hot glue really stinks [13:37:14] Fluburtur: did you shop in China again? [13:37:21] no [13:37:26] local hardware store [13:37:33] I did wanna see a Tesla in space :( [13:37:35] but it smells worse than usual [13:37:40] Return it [13:38:07] I already used half of it [13:38:14] I got it like 3 months ago [13:49:10] Mat2ch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748182426910720/387238846665981961/DSC_8070.JPG [13:50:12] br�tal! [13:50:30] is there any tape on the wings themselfs or just at the edges? [13:50:44] also I see christmas cookies! [13:51:07] just leading edges [13:51:27] also that cookies box is from last year but my grandma makes cakes and put them in the box [13:52:45] next step is make a hatch and joint the control surfaces and then it will be ready to fly [13:52:47] seems all the mas are the same :D [13:53:04] you could use clear tape to smoothen the surface of the wing [13:53:11] less turbulances means more flight time [13:53:46] but it adds a bit of weight. It's a tradeoff [13:54:02] eh [13:54:16] it looks kinda smooth but it really isn't, it was my first try cutting something that big [13:54:37] so im gonna fly this one until it doesn't fly anymore [13:54:46] and with that battery load it will have too much flight time already [13:55:06] 4400mah, this will fly like an hour [13:55:18] well, time to make a drone out of it. Let it fly on its own. :D [13:55:56] I was thinkign about adding a flight controller for some stabilisation but I realized it would take longer to set it up than it would fly [13:57:28] I'd pack a gyro, an airspeed and a height sensor and a microcontroller [14:18:48] moft flight controllers those day can do all that [14:18:57] they at least pack a 6 axis inertial unit [14:19:02] sometimes a presure sensor [14:19:13] and they can handle a bunch of other sensors [14:25:45] but it's just plugging things together from which you don't know what they're doing :P [14:26:00] eh not a simple [14:26:03] with a microcontroller you can add a GPS module and make it fly waypoints. :D [14:26:12] I also have a gps [14:26:17] but it's hard to make it work [15:16:13] Mat2ch https://youtu.be/HO7VMJ2fVBo [15:16:14] YouTube - Building the Marble Machine at the Speelklok Museum [15:42:20] good morning [16:14:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:14:53] Hi! [16:27:41] Hello [16:27:41] anyone tried the Google doodle? [16:27:42] :) [16:27:49] wuuut? bot? [16:28:01] that was way to fast for a hello for a human. [16:29:08] Leveller: yes [16:29:25] although IRC clients have tab completion [16:29:59] true. [16:30:10] https://www.google.com/doodles/celebrating-50-years-of-kids-coding [16:30:34] that's too old to be a kid [16:48:30] Google is too old? [16:50:00] Google is of drinking age everywhere except the US [16:50:18] If Google was a person, it would be old enough to have kids [17:50:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:58:47] what is the definition of "old enough to have kids"? [17:59:33] biological fertility? [17:59:57] that's pretty young these days, and tends to get even younger [18:00:23] by societal norms, it tends to get older [18:07:32] Fluburtur: I wonder if there'll be a next video. [18:08:21] It only gets younger, because of our good nutrition [18:37:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v bathtub_shark' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:40:19] Me vs the Google Doodle; https://xkcd.com/356/ [19:16:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:16:35] Evening, Gentlemen. [19:20:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:32:40] :( https://dogarandkazon.squarespace.com/ [19:35:21] Good news: there is not 1 but 2 new Star Control games. Bad news: They don't agree on legal things [19:36:02] huh [19:36:43] Stardock says they own the rights. The original authors don't agree [19:37:17] Both are making a new game... and are saying the other don't have full rights... [19:37:47] If they somehow manage to agree we might get not 1 but 2 new games \o/ [19:38:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:15:30] Houston, the Eagle has destroyed the platform it was supposed to land on [20:16:20] That sucks more than it sounds like, actually [20:17:52] Anyway, looks like it might be successful once I fix a typo in the code which caused the landing burn not to be executed [20:18:39] Crashed spot-on into the landing pad, and I know for a fact that landings were working before this test run, although it never hit the target pad [20:22:37] Action: APlayer crosses his fingers [20:25:16] APlayer: 'Tried to push infinity on the stack'? [20:25:35] Tried to get a vector from a vector, more like [20:26:03] (Forgot to remove ":VECTOR" from an edited expression which used to be a direction) [20:27:19] Man, testing this thing sucks [20:28:19] GOt to launch, wait 2.5 min in game time (more IRL because of lag), switch the vessel to the staged booster, wait 5 min before reentry and only then watch the interesting part (2 - 3 more minutes) [20:29:34] And time warp is not an option, it causes the wildest RCS oscillations and I end up running out of fuel mid-air [20:32:31] ...and another syntax error [20:32:38] Although I have no idea what caused it [20:32:58] Oh, I know what caused it [20:33:22] It's the one I just fixed, for some reason it did not get updated while re-launching :/ [20:33:45] Is there a way to see history in chrome of a specific site? Like blahblah.com/underfolders.html ive been too ? [20:33:51] i never clear history [20:33:56] so should be "somewhere" [20:34:50] There is a menu in the upper right window of Chrome (on Windows, that is). There should be an option like "History" somewhere at the top [20:37:43] yeah but i dont wanna browse through all "today, yesterday " etc [20:37:50] i wanna search for a specific site ive been on. [20:37:54] and see all adresses. [20:39:01] There is a search bar in there, IIRC? [20:39:24] (I mean, a product of Google without search bars? You kidding me? :P) [20:40:17] Ctrl + H it is [20:40:24] That's what I mean [20:44:23] ve2dmn: Humm, have you ever played with the thought of using multiple kOS cores to perform simultaneous tasks asynchronously? I.e. one master core to send commands to the slave cores one at a time, while the slave cores perform scripts depending on the command. Useful for asynchronous attitude control, PID loops, UI things, etc... [20:44:40] Or is there a better way to do this? [20:44:55] I wish. There is a messaging system if I'm not mistaken [20:45:03] There is, yes [20:46:03] Leveller: your google account also has your complete history if you want to search that [20:46:13] It queues up variables either to a vessel or to a specific core, and any given script may get the oldest message of the queue at any time. Messages can be nearly any sort of variable [20:46:36] https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity [20:48:32] Action: APlayer crosses his fingers once more [20:50:41] Nooo! :-( https://imgur.com/GKTHFau [20:50:42] https://i.imgur.com/GKTHFau.png [20:51:28] APlayer: is your code public? [20:51:56] ve2dmn: I have not uploaded it anywhere, but I may pastebin it or something [20:52:23] It's messy, though [20:52:32] I'm busy theses few weeks, I was just curious, but I won't have time to look at it [20:53:01] Was "theses" intentional, or did you mean "these"? [20:53:29] I have lots of shopping to do the next few weeks [20:54:20] Ah, okay. Christmas stuff? [20:54:27] yes [20:54:43] I have Maple Alcohol to buy (as xmas gift) and that thing is in short supply [20:55:33] Wait, let me guess, in Canada you do not drink beer or wine or traditional alcoholic beverages - you drink maple alcohol? [20:55:35] I also have to find an original Gameboy with Pok�mon Yellow for my sister [20:56:19] Maple Alhocol is a rare thing. It's a recent addition [20:56:24] It's made like mead [20:56:27] Alright then [20:57:18] Compared to europe, alcohol is not cheap [20:57:48] Depends on what parts of Europe you mean [20:58:32] IIRC alcoholic beverages are extremely expensive in some Scandinavian countries [20:58:42] Define 'expensive' [20:58:50] Let me look up [21:00:55] "Drinks are taxed by content of alcohol, more heavily than in most other countries. The tax on vodka (40%) is 200.56 SEK/litre, on Wine (14%) 22.08 SEK/litre and on beer (4.5%) 6.615 SEK/litre (2007)." according to Wikipedia, "Alcoholic drinks in Sweden" [21:01:26] So... how much for a typical bottle? [21:01:28] Not sure how the currency compares to dollars, but IIRC about 1:20 or so? [21:01:45] 1:10 [21:02:06] ...so the tax on vodka is $20 per litre [21:02:37] ve2dmn: and you can sort "from the beginning of time" on a specific site? [21:03:44] Leveller: probably. It's your entire history if you are logged-in [21:03:54] cool [21:04:02] APlayer: how much for a bottle then? [21:04:24] ve2dmn: No idea, I'm not in Sweden :P [21:05:08] Bcause a typical Bottle of 1.15L is around 40-45 CAD [21:05:10] The alcohol tax alone is $15 per bottle, though, so I guess, what, maybe $20? $25? [21:05:13] (for vodka) [21:05:21] Assuming a 0.75 bottle [21:05:44] A cheap 750ml bottle is 25$ [21:05:52] And USD prices, not sure how USD compares to CAD [21:06:08] CAD is crappy these days [21:06:34] 1:0.75 [21:07:18] So my estimate is about 19 CAD for a bottle of vodka in Sweden [21:07:31] Let me find some random supermarket site and see actual prices [21:07:39] Vodka in QC: https://www.saq.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchDisplay?storeId=20002&catalogId=50000&langId=-2&pageSize=20&beginIndex=0&searchCategory=Entete&searchTerm=vodka [21:07:51] And in Ontario:http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/search?searchTerm=vodka [21:08:40] Ah, there we go: http://www.globalalcoholprices.com/alcohol_prices/Sweden/ [21:09:10] Canada is actually less than Sweden in that list [21:09:28] I doubt it: Every province has a different price [21:09:42] So a bottle in Alberta might be half the price [21:09:54] so the average is mostly useless [21:12:52] Which is why I was curious as how we compare to the rest of the world [21:13:45] Anyway, Sweden is listed as 33 CAD in that list [21:16:55] Take for example that Jonny Walker Red label bottle: That one is 29.95CAD in QC and in Ontario [21:18:09]