[00:39:51] hey all, I have a mod that works with 1.4.2 but will load, the first time, on 1.4.5 and not after... what could cause that? [00:41:00] is the mod released for 1.4.5? [00:42:56] xShadowx: not officially, no. [00:43:09] thats why ;p [00:43:43] bit it was working fine a few minutes ago, then I had to close KSP and now the mod isn't loadind [00:43:47] loading* [00:47:48] impossible to know the error without some of these https://goo.gl/bWWLXW [00:48:46] in the end, its suggested you either wait for mod to be updated, or you update yourself :) [00:48:57] wood? [00:49:06] Action: gartral is clueless [00:49:12] logs ;p [00:49:27] Action: xShadowx facepalms [00:49:49] oh, which logs do you need? [00:50:00] sorry, I'm kinda drunk atm >.> [00:50:51] uh me none, on mobile so cant read em anyways :D [00:51:19] but generally ksp.log in the ksp folder will have the error [00:52:10] prolly be a line starting [ERR (who thunk up err for error) [00:54:35] yea, there's no error for DMP in ksp.log [00:56:06] dmp?o.O [00:56:34] dark multiplayer? [00:56:57] didnt that mod die and someone made a better one or somethin [00:57:07] too old to remmber :( [00:58:39] xShadowx: no, KMP died, dark made DMP to replace it, the most recent build is technically for 1.4.2 but it WAS just working in 1.4.5 [00:59:46] but after dmp i thought was an LMP or somethin [01:01:01] could see if it generated any configs usually in gamedata or somethin, new game, reinstall mod itself, ideas [01:04:42] otherwise dunno, gl, afk [01:06:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:07:02] Evening, Gentlemen. [01:49:14] what [01:49:18] big what the [01:49:30] what is this [01:53:26] Apparently "you are 12, and&" [02:00:30] xShadowx: it's not because I use linux. It's because unity's joystick support is rubbish [02:00:38] (insufficient button support) [02:00:49] and when you have too many buttons: unity crashes [02:00:56] (if you press those buttons) [02:01:38] also: my joystick mod does hotplug :) (could do with help for windows support, of course :P) [02:03:06] also, something to remember is that AFBW (the mod that inspired me to write my own) was originally done for windows [02:08:34] taniwha: my joystick https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102204&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-PC+Gaming+Accessories+%28Joystick+-+Game+Pad+-+etc.%29-_-N82E16826102204&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7PcBRBbEiwAfwfVGKBnjDKxeY7D3lNDovP0PDMusydlrJEcYByGazV3AIDht_qV47VQSBoCNYwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds [02:08:46] how many buttons to crash? :| [02:10:24] also hi long time no see ^.^ [02:10:57] 21 [02:11:15] who needs 21 buttons on a joystick >.> [02:11:25] x52 has 33 [02:11:34] is that still even a joystick? [02:11:42] HOTAS [02:11:47] sounds more like a keypad with a handle [02:12:34] thrustmaster isn't far off, but the buttons are split over two devices and thus neither device exceeds 20 [02:12:47] (unity's limit is 20/device) [02:12:56] A pair of 8-way hat switches gets you 16 alone. [02:13:14] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826197306&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-PC+Gaming+Accessories+%28Joystick+-+Game+Pad+-+etc.%29-_-N82E16826197306&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7PcBRBbEiwAfwfVGA8LRtfC7mzWb6yZSho95O2rYSkwkQb2m8hcLwto1t5XrlZmNgN1bhoCWfcQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds [02:13:18] x56 :D [02:13:25] wait [02:13:40] shouldnt that be like 8 handles for that throttle lever? [02:14:06] what kind of silly plane would only be 2 engines [02:14:07] did logitech buy out saitek? [02:14:15] no clue [02:14:56] i want 8 throttle levers :( [02:15:09] need to run a b-52 :D [02:15:30] the thrustmaster t16000 is nicer than the saitek x52 except the throttle is a little sticky and doesn't always hit full value [02:15:36] you can get those [02:15:59] my tm has just the one throttle lever [02:16:34] (full on flight sim players are rarer than joystick users) [02:16:56] and joystick users are rare due to all the fps shooters [02:17:41] go into a PC gaming "store" here and all you find is fancy mice [02:19:02] whats this store you speak of [02:19:06] xShadowx: btw, I can see at least 21 buttons on that x56 (assuming those toggle switches are 2 buttons) [02:19:10] stores died [02:19:17] websites rule now :P [02:19:29] japanese websites are unusable :P [02:19:39] (except for amazon) [02:19:51] not my problem :P i got amazon [02:19:54] shops are still popular here [02:59:38] hello [04:25:10] TheKosmonaut: we have some nenkin propaganda guys visiting our school. the laptop they use for their presentation runs win vista with the win 95 theme [05:10:52] Nenkin lies! [05:11:54] what is nenkin? is that like otherkin? :) [05:33:59] TheKosmonaut: the evaluation after the presentation literally had "DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY THIS" as a question [05:38:21] You totally don't btw [05:44:00] they seemed to deliberately mix up not being in and being in but not paying in the presentation [08:07:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:58:39] this is gonna be expensive https://twitter.com/3door_entrance/status/1036863633014185984 https://twitter.com/hk3077_rk/status/1036896024638287872 [08:58:40] <3door_entrance> iL #K https://t.co/rwuypDIkTN [08:58:59] Oooh [08:59:02] Ouch [09:05:40] https://twitter.com/Kongikeyaki46/status/1036873517826945024 [09:05:40] HhnOg'*oSjgYm ajk4oz/gY SaKo gY #21 https://t.co/tagHIxmo9n [09:08:05] and that fourth picture is not a ship terminal, that's the airport which the damaged bridge leads to [09:13:08] Is this storm damage? [09:13:10] its not often you see planes meet water... https://www.universalhub.com/files/styles/main_image/public/new/floodedjet.jpg?itok=bopWJTNn [09:13:37] well other than float planes but that's another matter [09:15:35] typhoon Jebi.. huh? [09:17:09] Deddly, yes [09:17:37] JVFoxy, lots of airports built on reclaimed land [09:17:59] (might be more common in asia than elsewhere?) [09:18:45] this looks unreal https://twitter.com/_O512k/status/1036849377883566080 [09:18:45] CTCP cfM_WDQi: from kmath (kmath!~kmath@ec2-54-144-15-186.compute-1.amazonaws.com) to #KSPOfficial [09:18:45] <_O512k> BZUnTL> {~kHPDQ https://t.co/wRD2auxvJC [09:19:44] Weird that none of this is on the news [09:20:10] (bbc) [09:25:26] Certainly is #1 news on Finnish National Broadcaster's frontpage [09:30:04] https://twitter.com/mr_bear_3/status/1036873772274335744 [09:30:04] kjcf https://t.co/AZVYDyISNP [09:30:50] I hope the people are OK [09:31:14] Nooooo, not the Mc D's sign!! [09:31:30] Or, should I say, the Wc D's sign [09:32:44] Deddly, I've seen a large amount of very near deaths but no reports of deaths so far [09:33:05] I'd still assume that there may be a double digit death count [09:33:24] :( [09:33:58] GlassYuri sign of Warrio? [09:34:14] https://twitter.com/yoji0205/status/1036864142777278465 [09:34:14] >wK;fM_Qi nqgW/n-Bcf SS~griDhKc_j https://t.co/HpgIUvkXWP [09:34:19] JVFoxy, wat? [09:34:35] OK just now it appeared on BBC News [09:34:36] Mc D fallen.. [09:34:44] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45406857 [09:35:55] "No reports of casualties" so far [09:37:38] Oh man... imagine being in the left-hand seat https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10FA2/production/_103283596_faa55969-ea96-4227-acb5-a23e67d7754c.jpg [09:37:54] meh... [09:39:41] truck hauling trailer full of cheese blocks flipped over in my area. Concrete barrier smashed into the A-pillar of the rig.. far as I know, passenger was shooken up pretty good, other than a few bumps and scratches.. [09:42:04] ... one would hope engineers did their diligence in testing those barriers, making sure things don't go over when hitting them but ya I see what you saying [09:43:44] True, but I was thinking of what it would be like to be the one hanging over the edge of the bridge [09:46:01] or.. could go to las Vegas... https://4yoursensesonly.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/xsream.png [09:51:26] "Sony has ended its repair service for the PlayStation 2, more than 18 years after it first went on sale." [10:35:15] PS2 was my first and only console [10:35:43] Bought it as a cheap DVD payer, and for Gran Turismo 2 [10:44:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:46:30] I didn't really get into playstation, like nentindo, only a few games I liked. GT was cool series. [10:47:03] first system..? well.. how far back do you want me to go? [10:47:19] First console [10:47:32] First system, well that's another story :) Amiga A500 [10:47:38] No [10:47:44] Amstrad CPC 6128 [10:50:56] JVFoxy, you can find crash barrier tests on youtube [10:51:22] 'morning! [10:51:27] Fairchild Channel F, 1977.. year was born... [10:52:42] Hah, you old folks boasting with your old consoles :P [10:52:57] Atari 2400... [10:53:15] Hey APlayer [10:53:32] shrug... went through a few systems. parents eventually got frustrated and gave up getting things. [10:53:40] and hellos [11:10:07] it appears that there is another destroyed tanker https://twitter.com/antel_/status/1036877625589870592 [11:10:08] kLW Rf~Y 2P\gok}Lz #'*~ #21 # #2P\ https://t.co/z9Vn6x9ZrW [11:10:44] Oh dear. I hope it was empty, at least [11:12:14] if you scroll down it appears that this was actually a barge joined to a smaller ship, and did not actually break apart, instead hinging around the connection [11:15:33] I didn't even know that that form of ship exists [11:17:11] What about it is unfamiliar? [11:17:33] that the pushing ship extends into a slot in the barge [11:18:35] It's a barge? I thought it was a regular ship with a broken stern section [11:18:57] I think you're right [11:18:59] yeah that's what I thought at first at well [11:19:22] Then there's the question of whether or not it's SUPPOSED to slot into the barge [11:19:34] ...or if it just made a slot [11:19:36] yes it is [11:19:51] but in any way it's not supposed to sit on a breakwater [11:20:36] Japan has had more than its fair share of weather phenomena [11:20:43] and other disasters [11:21:35] it seams that some of the worst affected areas of this typhoon were the same areas that got hit by the earthquake a few monts ago [11:22:06] and in between that there was a flood I think [14:09:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:32:07] https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1035615859304062976 [14:32:08] <SpaceX> Forward hatch view of Dragon departing the @Space_Station earlier this month. https://t.co/L1Kc5XI0G7 [14:57:46] soooo neeaat [16:36:13] I have aquired fiberglass [16:36:16] and a whole bunch of resin [16:36:19] for free [16:36:32] amazing how talking to peoples around you can help you in your projects [16:36:33] hehe acquired fiberglass. quest unlocked [16:37:14] I can staort making th emolds for the plane intheory [16:37:23] but the desing of the plane isn't finalized yet [16:43:53] also I met a weird old man in the train [16:49:47] https://78.media.tumblr.com/d31c0890bac48dc22253783141018bc6/tumblr_inline_p7spfbuCt41vwb5ph_500.jpg [16:52:57] so what about the weird old man? [18:22:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:29:53] Action: darsie fetched another surface sample of Duna. [18:30:15] eventually... I"ll get out there. [18:30:20] With a simpler rocket. [18:30:57] ... oh? [18:31:15] Yeah. I removed a stage. [18:31:20] or a bigger on [18:31:20] e [18:31:23] The rest had enough dv. [18:33:04] Duna hard to launch back off from? [18:33:57] nah [18:34:12] less than 2000 m/s to orbit [18:34:19] around 750 back to kerbin [18:34:35] Large 1.25 m tank, terrier, piece of cake. [18:35:10] Half size tank probably works, too. [18:35:24] Or ... 8x and 4x tank. [18:35:30] knowing how I go about things.. i'd probably spend a lot of time just trying to decide on mission style... doubt I'd go use a single mk1 pod all the way, nothing else. [18:36:40] I had a mission where my return vehicle ran out of fuel during ascent. I went on EVA, grabbed my data and jetpacked to orbit. [18:37:20] s/return vehicle/lander [18:38:04] I'll probably have a carrier craft for doing transfers between planets.. dedicated lander/launch craft when at Duna [18:39:15] a little worried I may have gone from constant, semi serious player to more just casual, mostly messing around [18:41:38] JVFoxy: My lander: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot18.png You may get away with half a size tank. [18:42:34] i recommand landers to be as flat as possible [18:43:14] heh its cool. I'll probably do something bigger. Get more than a single crew to the surface. I'll work the figures, delta V [18:44:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425858490532102154/486595622598868992/435432_x-kurfa-d.jpg [18:44:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/486607353203130378/DSC_9608.JPG [18:44:48] JVFoxy: That's the complete rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot19.png [18:45:20] Althego: Yeah, you need some luck to land on a level surface with this lander. [18:45:39] i prefer to leave luck out of the equation as i dont have any [18:45:53] Althego luk at me plane [18:46:12] luke, i am your father :) (he did not say that) [18:46:28] ar you trying to shape the fiber glass by the printed body? [18:46:40] no this one im just painting [18:46:46] but there is a lot of fiber tape on it [18:46:57] Althego: But flat landers suck at going back to orbit through atmosphere. [18:47:05] not much on duna [18:47:14] at least angle the legs outward [18:47:15] yeah [18:48:32] darsie docking port on side so you can get back, fuel again I'm guessing? [18:49:13] JVFoxy: Yeah. Lander gets back to orbit and refuels before going back home. Wasn't actually necessary, though. [18:49:33] too much complication [18:49:51] I forgot to jettison the used parachute and tried to dock with it. [18:49:57] i would just stage or use a duna orbit rendezvous [18:50:03] hehe [18:50:33] meh, more like contingency plan.. [18:50:51] craft I made for Mun/Minmus, I just brought the lander back with me [18:51:18] then again.. carrier doesn't exactly go back, crew has to transfer to kerbin lander craft at the station there [18:51:41] The previous rocket had a Dawn return vehicle in orbit. Total overkill. [18:58:43] Guess I didn't have a screenshot without the info overlay, oh well. This is from a previous KSP version. Some reason I like the interior view. It also uses the older command pod. The newer one is half the weight. I no idea how new command pod would affect the handling https://imgur.com/a/sds0xGB [18:58:44] https://i.imgur.com/kFj3vJA.png [18:59:05] i sav a pic like this some time ago [19:00:04] I've a few screen shots.. though since then I got a bigger screen now. 720p -> 1080p [19:00:15] tiny :) [19:01:23] well ... 15" screen.. [19:01:31] now a bit bigger.. [19:01:36] laptops... [19:01:39] no [19:02:08] i had a 14" screen for my old pentium (without number) [19:02:20] desktop... screen was also for camper tv. only had so much room. Then friend helped out. Its semi retired now for Xbox, but will be used again when I go camping [19:03:20] I built a swing arm for it... can use it in the bed over the cab area, or bring it out into the kitchen, watch it from the table [19:03:56] I keep saying I wanna do videos but eh.. never get around [19:29:43] mmmm... mars.... https://imgur.com/gallery/sW3EL5B [19:29:43] https://i.imgur.com/tneFrbC.gifv [20:33:52] I take it people caught news about the ISS hole recently? [20:35:12] Many did. [20:35:19] New news? [20:35:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/486635167759204353/DSC_9609.JPG [20:36:31] https://static.mk.ru/upload/entities/2018/09/02/articlesImages/image/51/bb/15/fd/744c0c599ee56d1333e42293ea621932.jpg [20:38:11] darsie before it was patched up? [20:38:32] idk. Someone posted it in #space@freenode . [20:38:51] russian agency seems to think its an unstable ISS crew member... :\ [20:39:33] I read that's one theory of one person. [20:41:49] when I saw 'sabotage' and man made on the headlines, I was like... uh.. what? space debris is technically man'made in a sense. Then read more on it. :\ [20:43:04] How high was the satellite the Chinese blew up? [20:44:26] 865 kilometres [20:44:31] no idea. .but as far as I'm aware, there is a world wide ban on militarizing space [20:45:04] or weapons in space... doesn't mean can't use ballistics, just not space based platforms. [20:45:07] Last I'd heard, the ISS thing was a circular hole left probably left during manufacturing that was probably temporarily plugged [20:45:13] Not everyone signed the outer space treaty, and it's ending. [20:45:26] I think. [20:45:32] probably time for renewal then [20:45:40] I want http://mhm-marc-hauss.eu/mhm/spip.php?article511 [20:45:48] times do change, though I hope still continue to use space for peaceful means. [20:46:38] Fluburtur I would love to test out an engine design... just.. lack shop [20:48:22] Maybe I'm confusing it with the antarctic treaty. [20:48:40] Action: JVFoxy picks up on Kurt's No Man's Sky video.. oh right his floating ship. Took out minerals from under his landed craft, now its just floating in air [20:49:18] I'm half tempted to get the game now.. after watching. But.. I don't know.. seen quite a few... 'issues' with it still. :\ [21:04:43] a few more trumps in this world, and space will go down the drain [21:05:14] tbh, the surface probably, too :p [21:16:19] localized blackhole... [21:39:46] Action: darsie wants a small black hole. [21:40:08] 32 proton radii. [21:50:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/486654189720567809/DSC_9610.JPG [22:06:19] Action: UmbralRaptor gives darsie a 42 Jupiter mass black hole. [22:06:46] Action: UmbralRaptor should perhaps have checked to see if darsie meant proton, or @>B>=. [22:06:53] I'm afraid that's a bit more than I asked for, but thanks nevertheless. [22:15:59] UmbralRaptor, HAH [22:17:15] is the @>B>= radius a blast radius or a cruising distance? [22:18:36] I, uh, looked up the first stage diameter on wikipedia (7.4 m) and did some math. [22:27:16] fair enough [22:55:46] I mean... there was already a documentary about these things... I think it was called Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda. [23:11:35] that was a nice series [23:11:45] the last season went a bit mental, though :p [23:14:02] too many studio execs that are on the corporate side were making creative decisions. [23:14:46] I dunno about you, but an MBA doesn't nessisarily certify you to be a co-writer in a TV show. [23:15:03] i don't think i fully understood the plot of the last season, anyway [23:15:45] dey went 2 hide, spacegod found dem, and freed dem. [23:16:29] I still dunno if there was time hinkyness or not in there. i.e. was it the past or not. [23:25:49] tbh it's been a while since i watched it [23:26:34] it has not aged that well. [23:29:12] i'm not even sure they actually broadcast the last season on TV here. i just watched it out of some kind of inner obligation to finish the series [23:30:07] Well, it was pretty heavy into enemies of the week, and deus ex machina. [23:30:08] on a related note, i've not managed to finish watching Farscape for some reason [23:30:28] i couldn't even finish the first few episodes of farscape. [23:30:34] but i watched all of stargate universe. [23:31:12] which one was that? 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