[00:43:33] Anyone know of a generic webcam driver that would work with any old webcam? [00:52:23] boah that was a pain, i built a long highway tunnel in cities skylines, but had to reverse the direction after building. but the direction arrows disappear after a certain depth, so i had no idea which segments i already reverted and which were still needed... [00:57:57] Draconiator: yes, SANE on Linux [01:00:56] Zarthus: technically it's a deprecated one. [01:01:20] U+2103 [01:02:00] if it's not on the ascii table they basically introduced it then realized it wasn't superior then [01:02:01] @_@ [01:04:42] why would the ascii people waste space for such a symbol? [01:05:20] i'm sure they had enough trouble fitting ° in [01:05:23] IIRC, it's for compatability with some CJK scripts. [01:06:08] Eddi|zuHause: my point was more "there's already a fit character in the ascii table. Then they introduced a new one that wasn't superior" [01:07:17] now... metro system... subway, surface or elevated? [01:12:18] USB\VID_041E&PID_4067&MI_00\6&B855771&2&0000 [01:12:31] um, damn copy paste. [01:12:48] that's the device manager ID for my webcam [01:31:16] very useful information, now i can look up the known vulnerabilities of that camera and hack it from the outside [01:53:52] /hackervoice/ I'M IN [02:23:50] it's funny, people told us not to use magnets near a 1.44MB floppy back in the day, even on empty ones as it would corrupt the disk beyond use, but doing that and reformatting saved some of mine. [02:32:29] when it's already broke it's not like you've got much to lose [03:40:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:24:29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qw9lD2CYk [05:24:30] YouTube - Sweet Child O' Mine / Black or White PIANO MASHUP - Jonny May [08:04:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:22:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:33:19] Quick question, are the low space EVA reports no longer biome specific or is it just some mod I've got that's making them not biome specific? [12:34:45] it is biome specific for some instruments [12:35:38] Althego: for EVA reports? [12:35:44] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Science#Activities [12:36:35] Althego: Yes I know the link and it says low space EVA reports are Biome specific but on 1.4.4 I'm running they're not [12:36:46] they should be [12:36:56] at least not so long ago they were biome specific [12:37:09] Althego: I'm wondering whether there's a mod causing that or there's actually been a change in a recent version [12:37:30] there was no change lately [12:37:43] Althego: hmmm very strange [12:38:28] i think not even 1.4.0 changed anything related to science [12:38:52] Althego: Ah it's "Kerbalism" all good [12:39:16] Yes, Kerbalism does that [12:41:44] for the all mighty science points huh? [12:44:21] Well, Kerbalism does awesome things to game mechanics and game balance [12:44:26] Absolutely love the mod [12:44:56] It's realistic and hard enough to not be boring, and not hard enough to be frustrating [12:49:28] I finished the plane https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/475646452316635146/DSC_9409.JPG [12:49:42] I just need to glue the wings and maybe paint the cockpit [12:49:54] but will it blend? [12:50:20] Kerbalism kind of reminds me of RO in ways [12:50:24] what are those holes in the wing? [12:50:43] servos [12:50:49] for control [12:50:56] no, i mean a series of holes in line in the left wing [12:51:02] (on the right) [12:51:10] just behind the leading ege [12:51:11] that's from the cutting [12:51:43] wings getting a covering I take it? [12:52:04] they seemed to be covered by some kind of tape [12:52:04] just some fiber tape [12:53:15] but this is amazing, to design and print it by yourself. even a decade ago this was impossible [12:53:30] yeah [12:53:45] back in like 2012 the cheapest consumer printers were like 1200Ź [12:55:58] considering they just started coming out onto the market... then you had people seeing if they could build their own 3d printers instead [12:56:28] good quality printers, of decent size still pretty costly.. [12:56:38] even then, they can still be a bit... twitchy [13:02:15] so, does it fly? [13:02:47] maybe [13:02:51] lol [13:03:18] it is a bit heavy but it should be fine [13:03:48] ever seen the 3D printed P-38 the guys from Testflite got to mess around with? [13:03:59] yeah [13:04:16] I got the bf109 from the guy that makes those [13:04:19] I have yet to print it [13:05:04] is there a 3d printer that can use different materials? [13:05:38] most printers can use a wide variety of plastics [13:06:32] yes, but it is still just plastics. or metal for the rocket industry. but there is nothing that can build a complete product [13:07:32] remember someone saying, the softer the plastic, the slower the print. [13:07:50] and then you got tech guys printing organics.. [13:09:50] the industry side of things isn't just limited to plastics, they can also do metals too. Uses a sort of welding type method. [13:10:44] but i want complete product printing, like in ta or supcom, like printing a car or an airplane [13:13:35] yay TA [13:13:59] well in TA they used nanotech.. just sprays on.. thats a bit beyond us by a long shot still :P [13:23:00] uhu por seems to work well to glue foam to PLA [13:23:04] superior german tech [15:26:24] stock hinge is kind of ok, but i still cant make a working foldable wing. even the simplest one fails. which is just rotating it on top of the plane [15:26:41] because there is no way to make it structurally rigid [15:27:09] it can redock with one port but not with 2 [15:28:21] not to mention based on my previous experience, if i were to rotate the wing in the hangar then redock it later in the correct orientation for flying, at least some of the control surfaces would not work correctly (flaps for sure) [15:43:14] Althego: stock hinges? [15:43:41] ah, with docking ports and stuff [15:43:56] and I thought I missed something and they finally implemented the fun stuff [15:44:27] probe core, battery and reaction wheels captured inside a cage made of cubic... [15:44:56] Why are there no real stock hinges yet? [15:45:00] I still don't get it. [15:45:24] it is one of my oldest ksp dreams to send a packed plane to duna [15:45:35] then unfold it either during descent or on the g round [15:45:47] yes. But no, Squad never listend :( [15:45:59] it could carry the isru system for infinite delta v [15:46:34] i hate that rovers are way overrepresented with their infinite delta v, but they are slow, and prone to accidents [15:57:04] Althego 'stock hinge'? [15:57:29] there are many ways to do it, but it always boils down to a separate craft captured in some kind of cage [15:57:48] so it is effectively a part of an other craft [15:57:49] ah ok.. thought was in the update or something lol [15:57:59] sorta mixed feelings as to hinges being stock or not [15:58:16] at least give me stock prop [15:58:46] because the ones i make are either horrible or dont work [15:59:37] for me KSP seems to be mix of rockets and planes. Not sure jet engines is a good start off point.. props perhaps but thats just me. [16:02:19] but hey.. at least they keeping it mod'able... [16:02:32] gotta wonder what happened to them other games, where 'mods' were considered a bad thing [16:03:28] props are needed for the exploration of eve and duna [16:05:41] so the best would be a solar powered prop plane with folded wings. and drop it on eve [16:06:18] electric motored props? [16:06:29] curious to see how the flying mars project will go over [16:07:30] only a few years to wait :) [16:07:42] the other thing is the rtg powered drone on titan [16:09:57] speaking of RTG... isn't the core supply geting a little scarce and old at this point? [16:10:22] far as I know... they weren't making new material or weren't planning to. Maybe mixing in some other stuff to help sustain the current stuff a bit longer but beyond that... [16:10:39] they import the fissionable material from Russia now [16:11:20] Uranium Mins in Wyoming are complaining about it. [16:11:54] not just the mines... facilities to process it been shut down for a while now last I heard [16:12:06] there is 1 left in the US [16:12:54] According to the articles I've read the only reason it is still operational is that they are using it to "burn up" old material from our old ICBMs [16:13:58] mind you... info I had was a few years old. Back then, they only had enough local material for one major mission if they were going to use it really soon. Otherwise, unless if it was blended with some other things, could possibly sustain it a bit longer [16:13:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:14:49] Artitles I've been reading are less than 1 year old. [16:16:03] I never got around to following up on things... so much going on as it is. [16:16:25] I know things can change quickly or not so quickly [16:17:07] I suspect that since the current president is very Pro-Military Might, they believe they can get him to stop importing and create more mining locally, along with building new processing plants. [16:17:59] I know they ue the NK programs as reasons for it in the articles. [16:17:59] I know up here in Canada... was talk about shutting down material for medical purposes even [16:19:06] *used [16:19:17] o/ guys [16:19:24] hi [16:19:34] Just a friendly reminder that we try to avoid political discussions in this channel [16:19:55] yep... trying to keep it "reporting the article" and not political :) [16:20:29] Alright. I only see the last few messages, so I have little context. But anyway, a reminder can never hurt. :P [16:20:37] right :) [16:22:55] We are talking RTGs [16:23:14] Ah, I see [16:23:32] The lack of Plutonium? [16:23:37] ya [16:23:47] article I saw.. or maybe osmething Scott brought up in a vid some years back. [16:23:55] among other rources that are lacking like processing facilities [16:24:18] Well, Plutonium is not the only fissionable material usable in RTGs [16:24:27] Can also use Americium and whatnot [16:24:39] no but it doesn't cause as much secondary effects as some of the others [16:26:05] The big issue is that they only have 1 place they can process the materials, and that same place is also decomissioning the Older ICBMs, along with decomissioning the US stockpile of chamical weapons [16:26:23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator#Criteria_for_selection_of_isotopes [16:26:36] Many alternatives to Plutonium [16:27:34] It has to be reconfigured for each material to process it, at last according to what I have been able to read [16:27:37] ya but comes with their own set of problems [16:28:48] AM could be used, just gotta remember to bump up the shielding slightly more [16:31:34] Woah, something big is happening. A dozen fire department trucks and a few ambulances just passed by [16:31:50] yikes [16:31:54] mmm... [16:32:15] I'd ask where... roughly [16:32:46] South Germany, a rather small town near Stuttgart [16:33:06] "Near" as in 100 km. [16:33:20] Local Fire Department is at 2/3 strength.. they sent the other 1/3 to fight fires in teh Western Us [16:34:10] Lot of fires further up the coast here too [16:34:30] one very local caused a lot of smog in the valley... last year, it was pretty bad, lasted several weeks [16:35:48] Germany's not having many problems with fires here, but Sweden is [16:36:44] Oh, another fire truck heading that way [16:37:30] hmmm [16:37:33] Probably unrelated, though. They wouldn't send a single truck after many other ones five minutes later [16:38:47] depends on what kinda truck [16:39:02] Unless it is the special equipment truck, and didn't know they needed it until the first reponder got there [16:39:19] or as a road-block truck [16:39:50] Locally they taker truck is usually about 5-10 bein dthe main group [16:39:54] *they tanker [16:39:57] GRRR [16:39:59] The tanker [16:42:07] i find it more likely that it's a truck from another department that was 5 minutes further away, when they asked for that many trucks [16:42:13] And another lone fire truck [16:42:35] Humm, that sounds plausible, Eddi [16:42:52] got a local news feed? [16:43:03] Won't have updated this quickly [16:43:09] I'll have a look in 2 - 3 hours [16:43:34] It must be rather close, though. I can smell the smoke [16:43:37] the big group would then have been the professional fire brigade, whereas the individual ones are the semi-professional from nearby areas [16:44:07] we have local traffic reports both every 10 minutes as well as whenever something happens... [16:44:15] I don't think we have nearby fire departments in the direction where that truck was coming from [16:44:45] JVFoxy: I live in the middle of nowhere [16:45:37] "100km outside of stuttgart" is deep forest, where witches lure little children into their house and feed them until they get fat enough to eat [16:45:39] funny enough, last year or so ago, fire took out the radio tower that gave out these reports. :\ [16:45:43] Closest reasonably sized town (i.e. population of more than 100 000) is 40 km away [16:46:05] (Ulm) [16:46:08] they managed to put a temp tower up... less range, figured it would be like that for a year or so. Managed to get it restored in a few weeks [16:46:51] i guess that depends on whether the building structure was damaged, or "just" the equipment [16:47:12] and how quick the insurance pays up [16:47:25] Well, radio towers tend to be built from non-flammable materials, so... [16:47:49] was just a tower structure, small shed, fenced off. cause unknown [16:48:08] Must have been Jebs rocket again [16:48:19] was in forested area near new highway.. set back 1/4 mile. forest was cut back about as far [16:48:34] highway section got shutdown.. but any case [16:48:56] well, concrete can crack and steel can melt in hot enough temperatures [16:48:59] checking google maps showing a lot of road closures around stuttgart... but nothing indicating 'accident'. [16:53:48] Eddi: Well, even iron can bond with oxygen, so technically it can burn [16:53:51] ok.. crash showed up on the A8 [16:54:20] massive backlog [16:54:33] If you have thin enough pieces of iron, it can actually burn, even in practice (try to set one of those metal sponges on fire) [16:54:53] APlayer: i'd define "burning" slightly more narrow than "any oxidizing reaction" [16:54:59] (Do it outside and wear safety glasses, though, wouldn't want to get a molten bit of metal in your eye) [16:55:28] yes, steel wool can burn [16:56:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXTucA5Yhk [16:56:39] YouTube - Stahlwolle anzünden (ignite steel wool) [16:56:45] Woops, you ninja'd me [16:57:25] i'm fairly sure we did that in school like 20 years ago [16:57:46] Yeah, you do that in chemistry class [17:03:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/475709781840232482/f_8393_yVOS6VFa8jbe61SnzETF7oii9.jpg [17:04:47] lol [17:05:16] should do a balsa wood clog, into a quad.. see how the dutch feel about that. :) [17:08:37] The props look like they just barely don't crash into each other [17:14:28] that's how it should be? [17:14:59] DANGIT, my save file seems to have become corrupted [17:15:01] looks like lots of surplus weight, though [17:15:25] Azander: easy, just continue from your last backup :p [17:16:27] (autosave, quicksave, ...) [17:16:30] Eddi|zuHause: yep. From a week ago :( [17:16:53] so far all the others are damaged. looks like something damaged that portion of my drive [17:17:20] that does not sound good [17:17:36] no.. not to check system for issues instead of playing :( [17:18:38] not=now [17:21:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:52:53] 0_o [17:53:01] if not now.. when? :P [17:59:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:01:40] egh [18:02:50] watch out he is a player :) [18:03:42] Can't make puns now, huh? :P [18:06:20] CPU (or GPU) fans are humming in the PC. Let's pause KSP in the background, so that the room is silent. [18:06:29] ... [18:06:32] Action: BPlayer clicks Pause - PC goes "woooOOOOOOO" [18:06:57] Action: JVFoxy watches own PC choke a bit on Second Life graphics... >.< [18:18:56] hehe like dreadnough hangar scene. nothing to do, therefore gpu fans are on max [18:32:17] mmm.. [18:42:49] yes [18:47:32] what if i made the flattest hinge possible. then added some docking ports at the stop point, bit farther from the body. then i would be able to add the wings folded to the body. maybe with the wind or with sepratrons unfold them backwards , where they hit the docking ports and connect to them [18:48:04] this could work, but i have to design a stable flat hinge [18:48:26] if it is not stable the wings would just shear off [18:49:44] I'd worry sepratrons would mean singl euse [18:50:57] Use dockable sepratrons [18:51:04] Add new ones when the old ones are expended [18:51:57] or just use little fuel rockets.. can just refuel without having to swap [18:59:26] anyone poke at the 'what did you do today in ksp' part of the forums? Ever get jealous.. or wonder why never got around to posting things? [19:06:44] single use is ok. all it has to do in the target atmosphere is to break out of a fairing, unfold the wings, and start the engine [19:06:56] it would be spectacular [19:09:05] lot as it 'breaks out' rather than 'breaks off'... [19:14:28] yes, it is an egg, and the bird flies away [19:15:59] with test payload instead of the wing http://www.warpology.com/k/hinge.png [19:16:12] doesnt work too well [19:16:28] but these sort of things are always very picky about part distance [19:22:28] probably the issue is that the decouplers dont like each other [19:22:46] so i have to come up with an other method [19:23:27] if only the gears had an attachment point [19:23:54] I seen people do hinges with leaner RCS and thermometers [19:24:16] yes but that would be rather thick [19:24:24] but maybe not thicker than this [19:24:29] then used docking ports as atchement points [19:24:35] Do doubly redundant RCS thrusters for a 1 - 2 year long mission make sense in KSP? 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