[00:02:30] do you know why finns go to estonia [00:08:50] TIL Finland and Estonia are across the water from each other but the melody of the Finnish anthem is used for the Estonian anthem too. [00:15:57] Mathuin: indeed [00:16:06] Mathuin: we go there to buy cheap alcohol [00:17:41] Mathuin: two of the three major languages spoken from the uralic language tree are finnish and estonian [00:17:54] last one is hungarian [00:39:21] http://www.museeairespace.fr/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/09/360-cockpit-heinkel-he-162-a-2-spatz.jpg [00:39:23] comic sans [00:55:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:04:12] https://78.media.tumblr.com/b139a2d66e4203b2e541961d9d5f2e4b/tumblr_oy36xijABz1sgw3y7o5_540.jpg [01:26:07] Is there a way to name missions upon launch? I have too many ships that have the same name [01:26:13] because i'm launching the same design [01:26:25] rename the ship? [01:27:46] but that's an annoying hurdle [01:27:53] to load the tracking station then the ship? [01:28:08] you can do that on launch [01:28:15] right click ont he command module and rename [01:29:29] you can rename from the tracking station [01:30:13] but it could be more obvious ui-wise [01:31:48] It's definitely doable when the ship is loaded, there's a button on the command module. [01:31:53] Fluburtur, thanks, didn't know about that [01:31:56] :D [01:32:02] There used to be a way from the tracking station, IDK if it's still working. [01:32:49] there is [01:32:54] click the 'i' icon [01:32:59] and double click the name [01:33:05] but i meant upon launch how to rename [01:33:54] i'd like an automatic counter that adds a number each time i launch a new mission with the same saved rocket name [01:36:14] here are my CKAN mods: https://pastebin.com/EPxRceun [01:36:19] wrong window [01:36:58] Eddi|zuHause, there was one called champaign bottle but it discontinued [01:37:30] https://www.curseforge.com/kerbal/ksp-mods/champagne-bottle [01:42:18] I use kerbalism and didn't realize how long the trip was going to be to minmus and my kerbals died of thirst on the way back [01:42:24] How can I calculate how long a trip is to somewhere? [01:43:54] launch window calculator? [01:44:35] if you're already in orbit, hover over the path to know the time [01:45:58] also the dv map in the topic has some typical values [01:50:58] ah it's better than the cheat sheet i use [02:01:39] is this in kerbin time? https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png [02:30:27] does anyone know how much power a probobodyne OKTO uses when hibernating? [02:43:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:55:34] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:55:34] Can anyone recommend a mod or anything for shrouding radial-mounted eninges? [02:58:08] FltAdmVonSpiz: I thought that was listed in the right-button spam in the VAB for the OKTO [03:00:31] Yeah, 0.01x [03:00:44] "Hibernation mode: Resource rates 0.01x" [03:01:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:05:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk%27s_midnight_cherry_Tesla_Roadster [03:07:37] You know you've made it when your *car* has a Wikipedia page. [03:08:05] I once had a friend make my girlfriend a Wikipedia page for her birthday. The next day it was taken down as her being insufficiently notable, but for one day she was almost as cool as Elon's car. [03:08:35] "The sound system on board the car will will play a song called Space Oddity by David Bowie." [03:08:50] for real, how many human beings will read that page and not know that Space Oddity is a david bowie song [03:09:01] The ones born in the 2000s? [03:09:18] at most, just write "will play Space Oddity" and hyperlink it [03:09:26] Whose first introduction was Commander Chris Canadian Astronaut guy [03:09:28] or "will play David Bowie's Space Oddity" [03:09:49] who really needs to be told that, yes, this is in fact definitely a song [03:10:44] Might be the DB version versus the CH versio? IDK [03:11:46] I guess it's specifically the "a song called" part that I hate [03:12:49] ... do you have a Wikipedia account? You could totes fix it [03:12:57] If I weren't wrangling a toddler I'd consider it. [03:14:14] mmmmm yeah I guess that is how wikipedia works, isn't it [03:14:23] I forget why I stopped editing articles actually [03:14:42] I think it's the catty back and forth that keeps me out [03:16:10] yeah probably [03:42:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:02:41] also flew to the Mun, am in a 10km parking orbit and about to begin my descent.... decide to check my landing struts [04:02:46] turns out they are slightly too short [04:02:56] so dont extend below the bottom of the engine bell by any real distance at all [04:03:15] oops [04:21:35] FltAdmVonSpiz: FWIW that's happened to me too, and it's a characteristic of the engine selection [04:21:44] They need more stock landing structs that are longer. [04:21:57] The lander I am flying now using a short engine partly for this reason. [04:22:29] The Poodle is also efficient in ways that makes my flights actually happen which is the other reason I like it. [04:23:41] although in fairness to them [04:23:54] I don't think you're meant to land on top of a mainsail or a nerv or w/e [04:24:07] but yeah it's kind of infuriating how they're never quiiiite long enough [04:24:29] maybe I should add cubic octagonal pieces [04:24:31] around my engine [04:24:45] I think that's what I do [04:25:01] or I just put a small radially attached fuel tank where I need it [04:25:22] Does anyone here use the tilted nose cones? If so, how do you control the tilt? [04:25:54] I think the nose cone parts are always at fixed angles [04:26:04] but you can take a normal one and press 3 and then rotate it to where you want [04:28:48] also [04:28:54] when should I be commencing pitchover these days? [04:29:06] my traditional burn straight up to 10km and flip 45 degrees don't work very well any more [04:38:57] Lots of folks do real gravity turns [04:38:58] how quickly are you pitching over, FltAdmVonSpiz? [04:39:34] for the last few days been pitching over starting at about 8km, and aiming to be horizontal at about 25km, but obviously still heading straight up at a rather large rate [04:41:07] I start pitch over at about 100m [04:41:20] My goal is 50s to apoapsis [04:42:41] so I should pitch over a few degrees [04:42:45] and then just follow the prograde marker? [05:10:36] It all depends on TWR [05:10:50] High TWR pitch over sooner and more aggressively. [05:11:05] Low is opposite. [05:11:57] It really comes down to the rocket but generally you start with 1.5 TWR, tip over to 3 degrees instantly then follow prograde. Adjust tip angle based on how badly it goes. [05:12:48] problem is most of my ascent thrust is solid boosters [05:12:52] so its hard to coast mid ascent [05:13:20] You want to end up screaming sideways and on fire and nearly falling back to the planet. That's ideal. Minimize gravity losses by going sideways fast. Mechjeb can list dV losses in a custom windows so you can refine an ascent to minimize losses from drag, turning, and gravity. [05:13:55] Pogo is bad. Falling back to the planet is worse. Run the fine line between orbit and falling back down and you do pretty well. [05:14:30] You can adjust thrust limiters on SRBs to refine starting TWR [05:14:52] I mean I exit the atmosphere mid SRB burn [05:15:06] Tip harder [05:15:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Guest29915' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:15:36] So either reduce TWR by limiting thrust or tip over harder. [05:17:10] is there a simple way to check TWR in the VAB? [05:18:02] with kerbal engineer, there is [05:18:26] my first stage is 16 BACC boosters [05:19:21] 14.9kN per tonne. Which is a TWR of 1.52 [05:22:17] dear god that is a lot [05:22:31] get KER and MJ then Mechjeb and KER for all [05:22:58] Ive been iteratively improving the performance of my craft by adding more strap on boosters [05:23:24] FltAdmVonSpiz: you will soon be acquainted with the law of diminishing returns [05:23:24] I have 32 boosters total spread ove three stages [05:23:27] and two liquid stages [05:23:28] oh yes [05:23:30] I already am [05:23:44] <3 MechJebForAll 1.2.0.0 [05:23:50] Blaank++ [05:23:57] https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/616170817386352414/FEC435FADF169D5CE68CC666B404B2C51AF12E28/ [05:24:00] its taken me a long time to even get used to using maneuvres [05:24:05] just as it took me a long time to get used to the map view [05:24:09] It's exactly what it looks like [05:24:28] That's just ... Kerbal. [05:24:45] Stage 2 of 14 has 12km/s and can run for 90 min but... dude [05:24:55] what the hell is that stage? [05:25:11] I tend to asparagus stage for great justice [05:25:16] My guess is something nuclear or xenon [05:25:19] for the strap on boosters [05:25:37] I never got into asparagus. I try to do it the way I vaguely imagine real folks do it. [05:25:52] Which is why I'm 100% okay with MJ. [05:25:52] Single NERV with 5 jumbo 64 droptanks. [05:25:59] It's suffering. [05:26:04] Not enough fuel need more fuel [05:26:21] 0.12 TWR has got to be wrong [05:27:42] hey it can still land on Minmus [05:28:59] It's got like 0.02 TWR in practice. [05:31:53] :3 [05:44:39] Blaank: i bet if you add 4 nervs and split it into three stages with 5-3-1 jumbo tanks, it would be atleast 3x better [05:44:49] yeah, did that [05:45:07] or atleast 5-1 [05:46:06] I do 2-2-1 tanks with 0-2-1 engines. 2 engines get discarded and then it's just one jumbo and one engine [05:46:19] It's tolerable. Barely [05:48:00] I do wonder if I could do something Atlas-y [05:48:04] but I haen't unlocked fuel ducts yet [05:51:31] I once built a NERV that only dropped empty tanks. [05:52:36] Kept all the engines. [06:24:09] How the heck did the lander modules rendezvous with the ship orbiting the moon? [06:24:17] and why wasn't it manned? [06:36:40] where, what [06:41:39] tengo un problema no se como actualizarlo a la ultima version alguien que me pueda ayudar [06:54:28] heh [06:55:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:41:49] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:41:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:37:12] TheKosmonaut: >cyclist cuts me off from the side >omawarisan [09:52:27] Low-altitude rendezvous is annoying [09:52:40] 50x timewarp is all you get :P [09:54:53] or 10x... [09:55:01] time it correctly [09:55:43] or go in the other direction. if going below is not possible to catch up, i go above to wait for the target to catch up with me [09:56:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5uTAt_A8BY woa nuts.. works well at 1.5x speed [09:56:04] YouTube - The Halifax Explosion - Sixty Symbols [09:56:11] Well that's what I'm doing, but the low time warp makes it take a long time [09:56:13] just saw it [09:56:34] was this the video you wanted to link? [09:56:43] doesnt seem to be related to 1.5x speed [10:04:51] OK... invisible manoeuvre marker on the navball. Am I missing something? [10:05:08] which one is missing? [10:05:21] the blue node target? [10:05:54] Indeed. I think the manoeuvre itself was maybe too small a change in velocity? [10:06:51] I deleted the node and made another one, no problem [10:06:53] Oh well [10:07:26] yes when it is too small it vanishes [10:07:33] because it would just be all over the place [10:07:38] because of floating point errors [10:07:45] I guess that was to prevent it from jumping about [10:08:11] also stops the "autopilot" from targeting it when that happens [10:08:28] Yeah, I suppose [10:12:37] Most pleasing moment of my day: Got a 0 m/s rendezvous at low relative velocity and was able to grab a floating capsule with the claw without any corrections or use of RCS [10:13:00] Sorry, I mean I got a 0m rendezvous. [10:20:03] i've run a few rescue missions without claw the last time i played [10:20:19] just fly close enough, and get the missing person to EVA [10:21:20] Sure, that's a good way to do it too [10:22:05] I prefer not to leave junk in orbit though [10:22:29] If I haven't unlocked the claw, I like to grab the capsule with a cargo bay [10:24:56] you can also use landing legs to grab the thing [10:25:00] True [10:25:01] and take it down with you [10:25:23] But that's more difficult to design, since capsules come in different shapes and sizes [10:28:13] ahahaa decoupler smashed satellite which detached from the ship earlier [10:28:34] Oops [10:34:34] dangit, i still have this annoying google doodle music stuck in my head from yesterday [10:35:02] I played it without music :P [10:35:17] But I didn't get the shortest solution medals everywhere :| [10:35:53] i got a bit stuck on the last medal [10:36:28] but all it needed was a pause and going in with a fresh brain [10:39:37] enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z74OwRy8o9I [10:39:37] YouTube - Pizza Night! [10:39:54] yes it is space related. I think. ;) [10:43:27] "Son of a Bear [10:43:29] vor 1 Tag [10:43:30] Can any one explain to me why the pizza floated around, but not the ketchup and other sauces? Hmm.ÿ" <-- i noticed that, too :p [10:43:48] gasp! it was totally faked!!1!!one [10:51:07] "Because its a conspiracy. These are the same people who faked the moon landings, hide the fact that the earth is flat, and are controlling the human race by using vaccines that will turn us all Autistic. And they shot Kennedy too. OR, it could be the clearly visible velcro strips on the table. But, hey, thats no fun!ÿ" [10:51:19] nice reponose [11:13:55] the moon is flat [11:15:55] moon is pizza [11:16:13] the moon is made of meat [11:22:56] meat is made from moon [11:32:20] we are all made of stars [11:44:07] earth is a shallow bowl [11:44:12] otherwise water falls out [11:44:16] or cats push em off [11:49:15] Rolf, massaraksh [12:18:59] https://78.media.tumblr.com/019a8b59abd7320931543c1672e88aa9/tumblr_nnl2rht7cT1rb5brco1_540.jpg [12:28:16] sports have ended? [12:28:21] yes [12:29:56] good [13:51:33] how do i copy Mk 3-9 Command Pod (Near Future Spacecraft), Mark1-2Pod (Squad) and mk1pod (Squad) so i can edit the config file [14:57:17] someone just rang the bell and I was never that scared [14:57:32] im alone, don't do this to me whoever you are [14:57:42] Glass|phone: if youre looking for cops to not be double standard in their application of law when cycling vs when youre cycling in Japan, youre going to have a bad time. [14:58:25] Since you timed out apparently. [14:58:28] 23:57:43 Glass|phone: if youre looking for cops to not be double standard in their application of law when cycling vs when youre cycling in Japan, youre going to have a bad time. [14:58:49] Or GlsFrg|phone rather. [14:59:01] phone vibrated due to the highlight and that shook the connection loose [14:59:17] Top quality [15:00:03] I once had a cop stop me from across the street because I had my hoodie up and he thought I had earphones in [15:00:30] When I took the good down he was visibly confused as he fabricated another reason [15:00:44] The go to is gimme your ID [15:00:44] TheKosmonaut, I see it as revenge for a few weeks ago when I almost phone walked into a policeman [15:01:09] iM¹ÞÛ [15:01:29] b~W‡F [15:01:42] TheKosmonaut, nobody cared about iM¹ÞÛ before pokego came out [15:01:52] Me... not mi [15:02:03] GlassYuri: exactly. [15:02:09] was so ridiculous watching all the posters suddenly pop up at the train stations [15:02:14] None of those signs were up till like a week after [15:02:31] to be fair a whole lot of people did hurt themselves [15:02:39] I used to play it. Till even cycling leisurely was to fast for it. [15:02:52] Heck... you can make it stop the game f you run too fast. [15:03:05] Turned me off. That and the hackers. [15:03:30] Unless there really was a guy named D82649201018447 who controlled every gym in my neighborhood [15:04:02] TheKosmonaut, even when the no playing while driving warning was new you could get it by standing still if your GPS was inaccurate enough [15:04:38] GlassYuri: correction... if you have a crap phone. Which you do [15:04:55] Though, Im betting its just a defect more than anything else [15:04:59] also I remember a few times when I was right in the middle of a gym location and the game thought I was drowning in a river or threw myself on some tracks or so [15:05:22] TheKosmonaut, should have done something about it while it was still under warranty I guess... [15:05:28] I have never heard of anyone with such a crazy GPS position as your phone had. Even with those really cheap phones. [15:05:49] how long do they give you warranty here? [15:05:59] Depends on where you got it [15:06:07] sofmap [15:06:17] Sofmap gave me like a year for my secondhand tv [15:06:52] well it's been over two years so it's sure as hell expired now [15:08:09] still fine except that my chinese friends urge me to just get a replacement screen off taobao instead of walking around with a cracked one [15:53:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:08:10] Fe http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/3039.htm [16:58:43] hello [17:02:31] I respectfully disagree [17:05:20] Action: BPlayer undisagrees sandbox [17:20:17] UmbralRaptor, well that technological period is named bronze age because it was like, the most what they could extract - and the only iron that could be found in more or less pure form was meteoritic it seems [17:26:42] Control the tin, control the bronze age. [17:30:19] Control the tin, Control the world [17:33:03] If you had access to 1 Unicersity course, which one would you take? [17:33:28] I could take 1 course next semester, the joy of working on Campus [17:33:51] Anatomy [17:34:39] My school only lets med students take it. [17:35:51] Most subjects are things you can learn on your own if you know where to look. [17:38:55] Cutting cadavres open is quite a bit more restricted these days. [17:39:24] "Advanced Topics in Enology" involved a *lot* of wine tasting -- expensive ones too. [17:42:28] ConductingCat, "things you can learn on your own if you know where to look." - that sounded a bit weird in context of anatomy lol [17:44:54] I'm thinking either German, Econometry, History of Maths, sign language, Innu (the language), Long term data storage,... or maybe just 'that xml course' [17:45:37] I mean, you COULD, but you're probably better off learning from an actual doctor. [17:46:18] ConductingCat: Wikipdia has everything [17:49:34] Action: ConductingCat dissects wikipedia. [17:53:14] I once took a class called "Math for Poets" which was really interesting. [17:53:47] The biggest takeaway from that class: the US Declaration of Independence is written like a geometric proof. [17:55:29] My only B in community college was in drawing. That professor was an unprintable mess. [17:55:33] ...h-how? How dare they spoil mathematics by introducing poetry? [17:56:08] It was really good! [17:56:32] Mathuin: I took 'Stress and Anxiety' during my degree. It was REALLY eye-opening [17:56:42] I'm in a place where I have to take 12 credits of "nothing" to keep my GRA. [17:57:01] I wonder if I can audit courses, go there and sit in and do some homework if I feel like it. [17:57:14] The TL;DR: "Fight-or-Flight" [17:58:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:58:23] Evening, Gentlemen. [17:58:36] Morning, Supernovy! [17:58:46] (No, not really morning) [18:00:11] Of course, the devil is in the details [18:06:05] btw, the joy about learning sign language, is that there is so many of them [18:11:59] i build rocket and i want next stage but i can not build [18:12:25] and the rocket moter i can build on top but not under it [18:13:08] its like it up site down [18:13:46] nibiru: screenshot? [18:14:32] print key do not work:( [18:16:26] i can palce a decouple but not a tank ot rocket motor , but i can pace the rocket moter on top of the rocket [18:17:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:23:49] ve2dmn https://atoemra.home.xs4all.nl/1/ksp1.jpg [18:24:54] did you rotate it by accident? [18:25:09] no [18:26:27] did you use symmetry to place thoses rockets? [18:28:08] 1 in the center and 6 arond it [18:28:55] but those around?, did you use 'x' to make 6 or did you place them 1 by 1 ? [18:29:57] cycle symmetry [18:31:35] This appears to be a longstanding Unity error, but nothing seems to fix it: Switching to resolution 1920x0 failed, trying lower one [18:31:37] anyone seen this one? [18:31:58] even deleted the Squad registry entries and let them be recreated [18:46:07] nibiru: sorry. I'm not sure what the issue is. :/ [18:46:18] scribbles: did you try turning it off and on again? [18:46:28] yes, yes I did! [18:47:41] Did you try changing the batteries too? [18:48:09] ve2dmn:( [18:51:23] nibiru: I would say delete the parts that are problematic and put them back again [18:52:24] https://i.redd.it/r3tmhtc8k4201.jpg [18:54:50] ve2dmn it is not helping [18:55:16] i start a new fresh game and still i have that problem [18:57:15] nibiru: what are you trying to build? [18:57:22] big [18:57:29] more [18:58:23] yesterday i did not have this problem [18:58:39] somehting did change [19:01:17] I have two probes in the same location in the same circular orbit. I would like to lower one probe's periapsis for a single orbit in order to cause the probes to be 180 degrees apart in their circular orbit. How do I do the math? [19:01:23] Do you use any mod? if you have Steam, did you try doing an integrity check on the files? What if you use other parts and 4 or 8-way sysmetry instead of 6? [19:01:28] Is this a resonant orbit calculator thing? [19:01:48] Mathuin: what is the orbit period? [19:04:59] ve2dmn: It's about 2d3h [19:05:18] Mun semi-synchronous [19:06:16] so lower the peri until the orbit is 1d1.5h, make a full orbit, raise the peri back to 2d3h? [19:06:32] So the lowered one would have a period 1/2 that of the high one, I think. [19:06:37] what ve2dmn said. [19:06:54] ;c 0.5^(2/3) [19:06:54] UmbralRaptor: 0.6299605249474366 [19:06:59] And that is a resonant orbit. Nice. [19:07:34] ;c 0.63*2-1 [19:07:35] UmbralRaptor: 0.26 [19:08:00] So periapsis down to 0.26x the old sma? [19:08:19] Note: this is wrt to the focus, not the surface. [19:08:21] That sounds about right. [19:10:03] I got the idea from someone who made a 4-way GeoStationnary Kerbin array [19:12:28] He put the Apo in the righ orbit and raise the peri so that the orbit would take 3/4 of a full Kerbin day [19:13:55] Yeah, longer times to reach the right orbit may be necessary, due to the finite values of available ”V and planetary radii. [19:16:28] I think there was a moon in KSP where the stationnary orbit is outside of the SOI [19:19:51] Several, actually. [19:20:36] (any tidally locked one) [19:29:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:42:45] What changed in 1.3.1 that causes me to have no probe control even when I include one at the KSC launchpad? [19:43:09] no power? [19:43:22] No antenna? [19:49:41] There is electricity and an antenna [19:49:56] Does the commnet icon thing at the top show that you are linked? [19:50:53] And where is the ship in question, in orbit around Kerbin or somewhere else? [19:52:44] I'm currently flying a probe controlled vessel. It's an RC-001S remote guidance unit. [19:54:44] ON THE KSC LAUNCHPAD. lol And I am not linked. [19:54:51] I can't launch because of it. [19:54:51] hehe [19:54:54] Oh! [19:54:59] Crap. That happened to me once. [19:55:08] Wihch probe are you using? [19:56:11] RC-001S I may change it though [19:56:21] What antenna are you using? [19:56:31] And do you have any mods that might muck things up? [19:56:45] Hrm, that unit has its own antenna, that shouldn't be a problem. [19:57:44] I have two high gain antennas strapped on to hunt down the problem...No good. [19:58:37] And you do have electricity? [19:58:41] maybe you don't have electricity cross-feed between your batteries and the probe part? [19:58:44] Is the probe in hibernation? [19:59:04] the probe usually has a tiny amount of charge tht is enough for minutes [19:59:44] yeah, but I was thinking maybe something was using it up quickly, like a reaction wheel [19:59:47] Draconiator: screenshot? [20:00:03] If you do screenshot, select the RC-001S so we can see all the things on it. [20:00:40] non sequitre: first stage was enough for launch, circularization, plane alignment and Hohmann -- plus 10 m/s [20:00:56] nice [20:01:29] Popped it off, fine-tuned my approach, and now the first stage will collide with Mun and not be space junk. [20:02:09] Flub if I can't solve this I hope you don't mind kamikaze Kerbals [20:02:26] https://i.gyazo.com/d70fbadb017690d58adfd5fa731e6414.png [20:02:44] Probe is right under the adapter [20:02:44] use relay sats then [20:03:05] also doesn anyone have a problem with planes bouncing when they load? [20:03:10] Yes!! [20:03:19] you know a solution? [20:03:30] I don't save when I'm landed. Workaround, not solution. [20:03:41] looks like the wheel spawn under the terrain so I guess moving them up a bit would work but didn't try yet [20:04:18] Relay sats may work....they won't be part of our save but apparently we need them lol [20:04:46] targetting them could be a thing [20:04:56] mostly targetting spy sats tho [20:05:24] Draconiator: is the probe in hibernation? [20:07:38] No it isn't. [20:08:03] Draconiator: did you try turning it off and on again? [20:09:30] How wide is the interplanetary launch window? Like hours, or seconds? [20:10:19] Depends on how on the planets involved, and how much delta-v you're willing to spend. [20:10:21] depends [20:10:39] with enough fuel, you CAN get from anywhere to anywhere in a straight line (as straight as lines get in orbits, at least) [20:12:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:12:30] Good evening, Supernovy. [20:12:32] The bigger the target SoI, the larger the window (for getting an encounter of some sort) [20:12:34] Mathuin: porkchop plots are good for finding how much dV you'll spend if you miss the most optimum point for a launch window [20:12:39] Oh you just disconnected by misstake. [20:12:41] Damn. [20:12:56] Mathuin: Basically, there is no such thing as a launch window. You just have a given set of trajectories you can follow, and the farther from the optimum you are, the more dv you need to spend [20:13:33] Yes, the button won't work. and I just put a relay in orbit. [20:13:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porkchop_plot -- there are mods and external calculators (which would need your savedfile, or info from the savefile) which can generate a porkchop plot [20:13:51] and STILL won't work...I exited out for a bit, was frustrating me [20:13:59] I don't know which ones are most current off the top of my head [20:14:01] As a rule of thumb, though, the dv difference within a few days is below 100 m/s, unless you're going to Moho or need to execute a complex flyby maneuver [20:14:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:14:17] ....maybe you need to upgrade your tracking station or something? Idk, this seems very strange [20:14:39] kuzetsa, Mathuin, you may want to have a look at Alexmoon's launch window planner [20:15:05] It needs no info from your savegame, it already includes all stock planets. [20:15:25] You may enter custom planets, though. By hand, that is. [20:16:10] tawny: wow that's such a pretty porkchop [20:16:13] thanks! [20:16:26] ...did I link anything? [20:17:16] you mentioned it [20:17:24]