[01:22:15] o/ [01:28:40] i find that the game is really terrible about telling you the controls in general. and you can't change the keybindings from within the game [01:30:23] like, i never get along with the hjklin keys for RCS control, but i can also not adjust them while i'm in a situation where i could test if the new one i came up with is better [01:31:14] the turnaround time between changing and testing gets too high [01:38:28] the joy of modular code: I added a system to my game where you can edit objects in another objects local coordinate system. it *kind of* works even if that other object is a moving train. [01:49:38] -blink blink- umm.. k [02:06:06] coordinate transformation are a tiny bit fun to program, if you have the slightest clue of linear algebra :p [02:41:00] algea bra [03:11:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:11:34] Evening, Gentlemen. [04:11:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:07:23] god sammit china https://twitter.com/SCMP_News/status/1014562736385257475?s=09 [07:07:24] <SCMP_News> This Chinese village was rocked by a massive explosion  caused by falling space debris. https://t.co/HMKmDL7ZNR [07:08:36] Rokker, you mean it was rocket ? [07:09:40] Gasher[work]: why cant they launch from reasonable locations [07:09:56] upper stage blowing up fully fueled? [07:10:08] because US pacific fleet? :D [07:10:29] petti, i guess fully fueled would have been much larger [07:10:36] petti: nope, first stage reserve fuel [07:10:42] this is standard chinese practice [07:13:28] yeah, makes more sense [07:19:46] um.. derp [07:20:22] mean while I'm sitting here testing quad jet powered flying cans for landing on mountains back behind the KSC [07:28:04] ok.. that went a lot better than I expected... very soft landing [07:29:40] lol... nearly 17.2k feet up and it says, space suit isn't really needed.... umm.. perhaps not but you'd still wanna be able to breat ;P [07:29:49] *breath [07:30:26] What measures altitude in feet? [07:30:37] I converted... 5224meters to feet [07:30:42] ok [07:31:00] its not the 'k2' peak behind KSC... just a spot nearby that was reasonably flat [07:32:31] mind you.. how the heck does that tree on the k2 peak even survive? I can see it from my landing spot [07:33:14] pics or it didn't happen. [07:34:21] https://imgur.com/a/CbSZXKm [07:34:25] was working on it [07:34:32] didn't realize imgur changed things up [07:35:33] no picture [07:35:44] most of aviation measures altitude in feet [07:36:22] stupid things still uploading.. [07:36:30] ok there done.. [07:36:33] sorry about that. [07:37:44] ya most aviation... they still measure mountain peaks here in Canada in meters though. [07:40:12] still? Will they change to feet? [07:44:17] hm flight echelons were changed to feet here to be the same as what they use all around the world [07:47:07] we use km up here... doubt will change. [07:47:20] though... my ultralight stuff uses mph for air speed... [07:47:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:48:05] lol... [07:48:13] ok so flew over to 'the tree'..... [07:48:39] added pic to https://imgur.com/a/CbSZXKm [07:48:59] wow, trees in KSP :) [07:49:40] big trees... [07:49:55] adding 3rd pic.. give me a moment. give you a sense of scale... also this one ended up on edge of cliff [07:51:50] ok there done uploading.. now 3 pics [07:52:09] just temp... till I go. I was mostly messing around with jet powered hopper type craft [07:53:08] I see two [07:53:33] now three [07:54:03] damn, I tried to tilt the pic :) [07:55:36] Ohh wow, now I found the Kerbal under the tree. Really big tree. [07:56:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:57:14] Is that KSC in the background? [07:59:26] ya... I wanted to show where it was roughtly [07:59:34] flying back home now [08:19:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:32:18] https://twitter.com/harinezumi_pics/status/1014782918672056320 [10:32:18] ;JKQMoZtn-TO`UD https://t.co/BoslmUxaTC [10:34:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:34:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:03:21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfmnjrKmPY oh nice, I did'nt know ion engines were in use [11:33:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:34:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:18:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:19:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:19:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:24:36] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:24:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:26:56] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:26:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:04:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:04:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:05:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:49:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xryd9cC8ZWU [14:49:01] YouTube - First Ever Picture of a Baby Planet! [14:49:20] btw where is my event horizon picture? [14:50:23] tauroctony [14:57:15] direct imaging? [14:58:14] through some process described in the video, but it was done by a ground based telescope with light [16:06:58] Was the instrument GPIE or SPHERE? [16:10:43] sphere [16:28:03] Makes sense. [16:45:52] Can I flood? [16:45:58] *May* I flood. [16:46:50] UmbralRaptop: I assume you no longer even have a desktop computer? [16:47:37] Kalpa: well, a working desktop. There are some laptops. [16:47:55] hyv iltaa Kalpa [16:48:03] Ezko my man [16:48:13] How are you doing now that the end of the world has come to the taxi business? [16:51:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:55:48] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:55:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:56:00] Kalpa: well, i've driven every day since monday and hadn't had the taxi sign on the roof yet [17:00:23] Althego: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wuemS6MudBG4P65dA [17:37:39] Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hstkV_uUs28 [17:37:39] YouTube - Ardupilot tailsitter (thrust vectoring DIY ducted fan) part 2 (testing) [17:40:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:15:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:25:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:30] how was the date of May 1st, 2013 chosen for the making history expansion? [18:28:50] was the EULA changed to allow DLC that day? [18:34:36] Hi Neal1 [18:34:49] OK, so here's the story behind that... [18:35:23] Back in 2013 (and earlier), the site used to say "Buy KSP and get all future updates for free" [18:35:55] Quite a lot of people took that to mean "Also future versions and anything else we might add at some point" [18:36:29] I remember it well [18:36:33] But what the devs actually meant was "Of course you won't be stuck with the Beta release - you get updates to the base game as well" [18:37:26] However, in good faith, the devs decided: "OK, since that's what you honestly thought when buying it, it's only fair that we give you what you thought you were paying for. We're nice guys." [18:38:46] Of course, since that wasn't the original attention, the wording was changed, but they said something like: "Just to be even fairer, we'll keep that "all updates forever for free" offer open until the end of the month" [18:38:59] And so, Neal, that's how the date was chosen. [18:39:44] Neal, Here's the original post explaining it back in the day: http://kerbaldevteam.tumblr.com/post/47730955705/expansions-dlc-and-the-future-of-ksp [18:40:26] I think I remember that now actually, luckily I bought it in march 2013 [18:40:42] An actual quote from that article: "So given that this was a point of confusion, and that we believe that no matter what, a promise is a promise, we are including Expansions in what you can expect to get for free if you have already bought the game. Also, for those considering purchasing the game, we will maintain this promise for all purchases made until the end of this month (April, 2013)." [18:41:14] It's that blog post that pushed my to buy the game :P [18:41:22] me* [18:42:38] I had just gotten a new computer that was able to run it around then [18:42:47] previously I was on an integrated gpu from 2003 [18:43:32] I was on a GPU but my new machine is on integrated and it knocks the socks off the old one [18:43:53] But yeah, 2003 integrated was OK for 2D and not much else [18:44:22] it did load KSP... vessels were completely black though [18:44:33] I think in .13 it just immediately put you in the VAB [18:46:55] I'm still holding out upgrading my laptop until a good ryzen ultrabook comes out [18:48:29] Neal, my i5-6200U doesn't struggle at all with KSP (up to large but not crazy part numbers) [18:49:15] HD Graphics 520 is just enough to get a green clock on the lowest screen resolution, but normal graphics settings [18:49:31] So actually, it's my GPU that lets me down, but only just [18:49:46] it's not really KSP I'm worried about, I try to keep gaming to my desktop (r7 1700, 980ti). I just want a 13" with a lot of core/threads [18:50:09] And only because of ocean lag [18:50:18] Ah [18:50:31] can that be turned off? whenever I see the ocean I lose a lot of frames [18:50:55] It's caused by the ocean actually being a second planet clipped into Kerbin [18:51:06] oh wow [18:52:09] Neal, it can be helped from space, but AFAIK, ocean lag will still be there when you're on the planet [18:52:40] Unfortunately, KSP was a bit of a botch job in the beginning :) [18:52:40] it causes a lot of stuttering on my end [18:53:15] I can hear my gpu's coil whine change when the ocean is in view [18:53:25] Neal, do you get that problem from orbit as well? [18:53:51] everywhere really, the ocean makes it worse though [18:54:10] This should help, then: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/161804-13-very-small-fix-lag-when-looking-at-the-ocean-patch/ [18:56:19] I've not looked into Kopernicus, but I wonder if it's possible to make a replacement for Kerbin that fixes stuff like that [19:01:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:02:29] I'm not super familiar with the convert-o-trons, how many radiator panels should I use? [19:04:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v bathtub_shark' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:08:22] Sorry, no idea [19:10:24] Neal: Test on the ground pad. [19:10:28] launch pad [19:10:50] I was going to launch them separately.. hmm.. [19:37:22] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjsTzWXPBLM [19:37:23] YouTube - The Dragon Drone - An Innovative Drone From The University of Tokyo [19:37:48] https://twitter.com/gabehabash/status/999730711811764224?s=19 [19:37:49] Good afternoon here are bobcats who like to be on cactuses https://t.co/KP7tQUuvm0 [19:37:49] this is just awesome [19:38:02] it is a flying snake drone [19:38:06] what can be better than this [19:53:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:13:10] two flying snake drones Althego [20:13:55] I was just reminded of this amazing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU5fdz3WrC0&list=PL65C4B9D6FC4D8E4F&index=26&t=0s [20:13:56] YouTube - Cat Tales - Hoth [20:40:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:29:04] .seen Wetmelon [21:29:10] ;seen Wetmelon [21:29:11] Tortoise767: wetmelon (wetmelon!~wetmelon@2600:1700:2601:7c40:2007:fc59:4328:d422) was last seen quitting in somewhere at 2018-07-05 05:23:31 +0000