[00:27:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:28:05] Evening, Gentlemen. [00:42:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:17:03] https://www.space.com/40792-nasa-mars-rover-curiosity-announcement-june-2018.html [01:21:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:45:41] OMG why am I so horrible at this game? [02:46:27] Why does the map always show the wrong side of the planet? [02:47:37] How do I delete a vessel floating in the ocean? That I exited and then couldn't get back in. Now it's just floating around the ocean [02:48:32] You can click and drag to rotate the map. [02:49:06] For the vessel in the ocean, go to the tracking station, click on the vessel, and select recover. [02:49:32] For getting better, play, read guides, ask questions. We help where we can. [02:49:48] But why doesn't the map just automatically show me where I am? [03:02:47] Two possibilities: bugs, and sometimes you don't want to see where you are now, but where you will be. [03:20:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:00:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:04:38] i've never understood why the game insists on showing the opposite side of the planet every single time [10:29:44] hm, inversion of ailerons is a funny thing [10:31:31] or of any control surface [10:32:51] well those which are on the furtherst and the most flexible part usually show that effect much more [13:08:24] hehe [13:37:35] guys [13:37:38] why didn't anyone tell me [13:37:50] https://github.com/Vivero/Kerbal-VR [13:38:25] that sounds like a horrible idea :p [13:38:35] no it's the best idea [13:40:12] Supports in-flight IVA, and room-scale VAB / SPH. [13:40:14] perfect [13:45:36] now, how motion sick do you get on a crash? :D [13:46:51] I've become immune to VR sickness almost 2 years ago, I'll be fine :p [13:50:25] I tried the HTC Vive. It was awesome. A bit too pricey for me [13:50:58] I saw the Robbaz video too [13:51:45] ve2dmn i have a vive pro now, been flying il-2 basically daily [13:51:48] it's so so good in vr [13:52:31] I 'rented' my experience [15:13:05] phonewalking lane in xian, china https://twitter.com/manukatsunakan/status/1003844797554016257 [15:13:05] -ý‰k‚eUŒ_¹ÞÛ(ï=N-ÏðŸ˜… https://t.co/gugrBjzMgP [15:13:44] good idea [15:13:57] until we have direct brain interface [15:21:22] TIL https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/8opt7r/the_moon_is_lengthening_earths_day_a_new_study/ [15:21:53] but this is well known [15:22:07] I knew the days were getting longer since some fossil records show years of 425 days, but I didn't know the mechanism [15:22:52] Can't wait for the 25h day. [15:22:57] hehe [15:23:00] bit far away [15:23:13] a leap second every few years [15:23:22] if i could, I would try the 28h cycle thing for a few weeks [15:27:37] I'm sure it would do wonders for my sleep issues [15:27:54] not everybody is on a 24 hour cycle [15:28:18] the day night changes correct it to the actual day length [15:28:27] but your body may want to function on something else [15:28:48] I can't sleep with daylight [15:33:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:35:27] GlassYuri: are you ever going to post a tweet that, idk, uses the required language for the channel [15:35:39] so that kmath isnt posting in chinese or japanese [15:36:18] it's not like I gave you all the information you need to understand it [15:37:31] its not about understanding [15:38:17] it's about two lines of text on your screen that you can't read [15:38:39] no [15:38:47] its about 2 lines of text breaking channel rules [15:42:12] Shh [15:42:14] Quiet [15:46:53] are the launchpad symbols shakaing for everybody else? it looks really annoying [15:53:19] "The USSR and the Soviet Union" wat [16:05:23] AAAAAAAAAAAAAA [16:05:26] new robbaz videos [16:05:29] redneck brothers [16:48:43] Althego https://78.media.tumblr.com/acd42938342a0ff9007f999fc4eebc76/tumblr_inline_p94suiZ8kG1uqmwm6_540.png [16:49:42] hehe [16:50:09] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCMSDvp-n74 [16:50:10] YouTube - "Fat Earth Theory' - How Earth's Shape Changes Spacecraft Orbits [16:53:58] one hehe a day to keep the althego alive [16:54:31] i was thinking... if in 46 it was possible to get radar echo from the moon, today it should be available for anybody [16:54:48] because at that time it was cutting edge, now it is probably just microwave tech [16:55:07] eh still would need enough power to be dangerous for idiots [16:55:12] but now I want a moon radar [16:55:13] hehe [16:55:14] good job [16:55:23] but they couldnt say that hah you cant know how far the moon is [16:55:39] yes they should just blow themselves up, but since they would never do any experiment... [16:55:57] Althego: Ham radio operator also use the moon to bounce off signals [16:56:05] lol [16:56:08] mostly the upper atmo tho [16:56:11] a bit closer [16:56:13] are you sure not the ionosphere or something [16:56:31] https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/ham_radio/amateur-propagation/moonbounce-propagation-eme.php [16:56:35] https://78.media.tumblr.com/42ab0c50a0a55d3266949f27ce3cd2a8/tumblr_n1a05tKXoE1s5jc1mo1_540.jpg [16:56:38] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication [16:56:47] ve2dmn those guys are hardcore then [16:56:54] how much power do you even need to do that? [16:56:55] lol the bird [16:56:56] "EarthMoonEarth communication (EME), also known as moon bounce, is a radio communications technique that relies on the propagation of radio waves from an Earth-based transmitter directed via reflection from the surface of the Moon back to an Earth-based receiver." [16:57:00] like 100 watts or something [16:57:06] that is not even much [16:57:17] it kinda is for amateur radio stuff [16:57:18] now i want to build a moon distance measuring radio [16:57:23] but I think the limit is actually 1kw [16:57:34] and my CB is 2w at most [16:57:36] think of it, my psu is something like 550 watts [16:57:42] in the pc [16:57:53] so it is easily available power [16:58:11] Fluburtur: it depends [16:58:30] The record for lowest is 3 milliwatts [16:58:50] radio power and electrical power are not exactly the same kind of stuff [16:58:50] I mean they are but you can do nice stuff with low radio power [16:59:12] https://78.media.tumblr.com/eff70bbed3b26a462b5efcd847a00c3f/tumblr_olirm6kHTL1qzhjh2o1_540.jpg [16:59:24] squatting slav? [16:59:47] yes [17:01:02] But different wavelength react differently [17:01:15] some are bounced more easily on the ionosphere [17:03:21] i actually didnt know how the sun synch orbit works [17:03:30] i knew it was some extra gravitational effect on it [17:03:35] but i didnt know what [17:11:41] I didn't realise that the EME communcation has a doppler effect at moonrise or moonset, but it makes a lot of sense [17:15:34] How significant would the doppler effect be, though? [17:15:57] according to wikipedia, it's 300hz for a 144MHz communication [17:17:25] Isn't that next to nothing? [17:24:45] It is, but it's in interesting way to verify the speed, distance and radius of the moon [17:26:37] for radio transmission that i not much. for a real radar image, i bet they have to work really hard to cancel that [17:32:25] Anyone familiar with how Kolonization levels and such work with MKS? Trying to figure out what the numbers on the dashboard mean [17:35:48] Althego Mat2ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ldkClOSgA [17:35:49] YouTube - Wings combat and crazy swordsman challenge. [17:36:01] hehe [17:36:05] instant crash [17:39:00] Fluburtur: uh, when was the video shot? [17:39:20] between like 4 months ago and a few weeks ago [17:40:03] some of that footage is from before the canadair crash [17:40:28] hmmmm [17:40:33] umbral raptor is dead [17:40:34] english captions? [17:40:38] i wished to speak with him [17:41:03] I speak like 10 words in that video, no need for captions [17:41:28] i still dont know what those words mean :9 [17:42:14] Althego: well if i know french [17:42:16] and i dont [17:42:22] 5 of them were surrender [17:43:01] lol [17:43:10] rokker pls [17:43:13] only 2 [17:43:28] Action: Rokker slaps Fluburtur in the maginot line [17:43:43] Fluburtur: the F3D is so bad [17:43:48] sooooo bad [17:43:55] heh [17:44:07] Fluburtur: ah, I see. You were wearing coats there. [17:44:11] it's freaking hot now... [17:44:28] yeah in the videos of last weekend I didn't even have a shirt on [17:44:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJecbW4ig60 [17:44:43] YouTube - only up challenge [17:45:44] is that the fanservice? :) [17:46:00] yeah you get to see my skeletton [17:46:09] no xray needed, just a strong enough light [17:47:42] hehe [17:48:00] reminds me of tasogare otome x amnesia [17:48:27] rokker new peter video [17:48:45] dead girl completely fine with seen naked. absolutely fears showing her real remains [17:48:45] btw apparently foamie was at the memphis belle thing [17:49:21] can't touch nakey ghost [17:51:48] Althego: out of context this was weird [17:52:13] fluburtur talked about skeletoin [17:52:17] ve2dmn: pretty weird in context [17:53:43] It's Anime-related. Still weird but it's not suprising [17:54:05] Fluburtur: Please put the shirt back on ;P [17:54:21] hehe [17:54:22] I don't want to die [17:56:40] Fluburtur: Heat wave? Is it 32°C + 100% humidity? [17:56:54] not far [17:56:59] more like 25 and thunder [17:57:17] 25C? You call that a heat wave? [17:57:29] it was more warm last week [17:59:32] ve2dmn: it's 30°C here for days now and the next thunderstorm will be tomoroow [17:59:59] and then 27°C and thunderstorm every day for the next few days /o\ [18:00:03] I will die of humidity [18:00:08] Mat2ch: I have friends in Sweden who are in similar situation [18:00:15] steamed to death [18:00:24] They had 30°C in Oslo! [18:00:26] OSLO [18:00:40] That's hotter than a typical summer there [18:00:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:02:22] let's hope it doesn't last [18:02:39] I would hate to see my friends suffer, while I get 13°C [18:03:24] Schools are partially closing during the afternoons here in Germany. Our school has a similar policy (it has to be blah-blah degrees hot by 10 AM or something), but it only applies to grades 10 and lower, so the older students have to sit in the heat while the younger ones are leaving the school :P [18:03:48] no A/C? [18:05:21] Technically, we have a centralized ventilation and cooling unit, but it's as old as the school itself, which is about 45 years I think. And I've never felt any effect from it. Those are basically huge pipes to make the airflow slow in order to not distract anyone, so it's natural that it can't be felt, but I don't think it's working at all, because it doesn't help [18:06:15] We have heat pump for both summer and winter. They are awesome (when they work correctly) [18:07:36] Also, occasionally the heating is on in summer, because it's centralized too. It used to have handles until a few years before I started visiting this school, when *modernization* called for the controls to be in the caretaker room, and it /never/ works well. [18:08:11] Sometimes in winter it's on such a high setting that being in a room is as unbearable as being there mid summer [18:08:58] How cold is it outside? [18:09:55] last week i was working on some machines in a factory, and their cooling water system was so cold that it formed drops on the pipes. THAT was a completely extremely unpleasant place to work [18:09:59] Up to -20°C and sometimes might be a bit colder, but I don't remember such temperatures this year. I think the coldest this winter was -15° or so [18:10:37] And I guess you all heat with natural gas? [18:10:42] I mean, welcome to south Germany, where continental climate slaps you in winter, and then slaps you again in summer [18:11:10] i'm not that far south [18:11:35] APlayer: look up the weather data for Montreal [18:11:40] Well, I'm not sure how much of that gas is actually wasted when heat is wasted, because we have a double system where they generate electricity from gas and as a bonus, harvest the excess heat [18:11:46] Action: TerminalRaptor missed the summers. Lots of 40+ days? [18:12:59] i like the small puff effect that haooens when jets flame out [18:13:18] Rokker: there he is now, TerminalRaptor [18:13:53] APlayer: I would curious how we would compare. I also have continental weather with very low in January and very high in July [18:14:14] And 70% humidity all the time :/ [18:14:43] ve2dmn: The extreme ranges, I'd estimate, are -20 and +35. Usual worst of the year is -10 and + 30 or so [18:14:52] Call that -15, perhaps [18:14:57] I need to get a band together [18:15:08] I have a drummer friend and I know someone who plays guitar [18:15:14] so we could try to play some stuff [18:15:19] Currently 26 C with 41% humidity outside IAD. [18:15:24] APlayer: similar to mine I guess [18:15:25] if we ever find the time and room to put all the music crap [18:15:45] The weather here seems close to that of TerminalRaptor's [18:16:01] I wanted to turn my room into a music room before it became my workshop and full of crap [18:16:16] Also, hailstorms. They are not usual, but we've had three this summer already [18:16:40] sidenote: it isn't actually summer yet [18:17:08] Well, this apparent summer. I'm going by temperature, not calendar here [18:18:35] Virginia is weirdly lacking in hail vs the midwest. [18:19:49] APlayer: I just compared with Munich. I have the same annual highs, but I get -10C lower on average [18:20:13] Munich is a bad comparison [18:20:22] I went with what I know [18:20:44] The particular place where I live is a meteorological anomaly, we have a much higher amount of clouds and rain [18:20:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342808440479023105/453620995106930698/FB_IMG_1523792669815.jpg [18:21:01] ok. Montains? [18:22:48] ooh, ps/2 ports. [18:22:55] I guess it's just a nearby small river and the local landscape, because the mountains are another 150 km from here [18:22:56] must be an old pic [18:26:58] APlayer: Interesting. Although not unheard of [18:28:05] see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_wind [18:28:15] (which nearly ruined the winter olympics) [18:28:58] Hey, this area is informally called "Germany's bladder" [18:29:25] Really, the weather sucks, but you don't think much about it if you live here [18:29:29] It becomes normal [18:29:40] same, I guess [18:30:51] Note to self: don't visit Aplayer in the deep of winter... I'm trying to escape the cold during holidays, not go back in it [18:31:40] The one difference about holidays in hot and cold places is, when it's cold, you can add an additional layer of clothes. When it's hot, you're stuck [18:32:02] Although I hate cold waves, I still prefer cold then warm: It's usually easier to warm up then to survive a heat wave [18:32:12] ninja'd [18:32:16] except when it is cold, that additional layer just lengthens the time until you get completely cold [18:33:02] Althego: no really: you produce your own heat. You only need to delay cold until it's spring again anyway [18:33:11] hehe [18:33:51] Real programmers overclock their CPU to produce heat during the cold months of the year [18:34:08] I run bitcoins miners for that [18:34:41] so you basically burn bitcoins for heat? neat [18:34:49] at 6c/kwh it's almost worth it [18:34:54] TerminalRaptor: oi [18:36:50] Rokker: io [18:37:13] TerminalRaptor: new horizons is awake [18:37:27] there are several months until its flyby [18:37:31] TerminalRaptor: kupier belt object :d [18:37:36] :D [18:37:40] Althego: dont care [18:38:31] Ultima Thule hype! [18:38:51] Althego: even a year before we reached pluto, NH was giving us better pics of pluto than we had ever seen [18:40:02] we need a charity foundation that sends flat earthers to space so that they can see the curvature with their own eyes (and optionally brings them back) [18:40:23] send them to venus [18:40:59] also I had my camera at work today so I took funny pictures [18:41:40] Gasher: we heat with electricity anyway... so why not waste it to do 'some' work [18:49:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:50:46] Only bring them back if they earned it [18:51:51] Rokker have you seen the new rs2 maps [18:51:58] there is omaha beach but with helis [18:52:28] no [18:52:59] resort [18:53:01] try it [18:53:11] Action: JCB peeks in... [18:53:27] peek in, poke out [18:53:51] just.. something on the my mind, but didn't want to interrupt [18:53:55] PEEK(53281) [18:53:57] poke 53281,1 [18:54:39] peek-poke.. and on that, was reading up on the commands in a friend's apple II user guide.. [18:54:41] i was thinking about the middle number and you typed in faste :) [18:55:00] but this number is for c64 [18:55:06] ^ [18:55:17] https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/PEEK [18:55:34] I remember seeing the commands before on a few other machines, even used it in code for an old PC.. [18:55:53] but wasn't sure how they actually worked. Seems it's helpful to have useful addresses [18:55:54] Possible. Syntax would change [18:56:53] but any case... dropped by, seems one thing lead to another (scott's video on orbits, me looking up on subsatellites from apollo, ... now I forgot..) [18:57:16] Action: JCB flips to the other tab and 'oh ya's. [18:57:24] today put together 2 small sstos [18:57:32] both are bit anemic [18:57:41] but they worked [18:57:50] was thinking to do a video recording, wondering how much info from previous space missions I should put in.. since some of it takes ideas from them. [18:58:00] not bad without ker and after a long hiatus [18:58:35] sometimes anemic works out better? Put too much fuel in, have to compensate with more or bigger engines [19:00:22] that is the problem, the single jet is not enough so it eats up too much fuel during ascent [19:00:39] i would need 1.1 jets :) [19:00:48] Althego: I tried making a single-fuel SSTO [19:00:50] ...I gave up [19:00:58] yes that is hard [19:01:03] or rather reasy but inefficient [19:01:22] if you want a single nuke and still do anything, that doesnt work out [19:01:26] That LV-N just doesn't have enough TWR [19:01:34] LV-N also pretty darn heavy [19:01:42] maybe if you could overload the engine and then it starts to overheat and eat more fuel but output more thrust... [19:01:43] And big [19:01:51] yes they used to be pretty much op engines [19:02:06] but now they are something like 2.5 t [19:02:07] wasn't just the engines... game physics changed too [19:02:22] That LV-N looks so big, next to the air-breathing engines [19:02:28] used to be able to cruise at orbital speeds in atmos, sipping fuel... lol [19:02:35] hehe [19:02:39] yes, up to 68 km [19:02:48] with orbital speed [19:03:02] I didn't even have to scoop stack [19:05:16] And I have yet to make a ship that can take off from Eve [19:05:31] Although, I came pretty close [19:05:48] lol.. I've yet to go past minmus other than maybe a few failed attempts to Jool [19:05:52] i have a dream vehicle for eve. ascends with props until it reaches usable pressures [19:05:57] so it would be really small [19:06:16] props? Run on powers? [19:06:23] but since my electric prop design could barely make a small plane ascend [19:06:24] electric props? [19:06:37] i doubt i could make enough thrust for direct lifting [19:07:04] and stock props are bothersome, even 1, having 2 or 4 on a craft is really bad [19:07:11] I've sometimes wondered about props and wings on other worlds.. lower gravity/pressure, how those would affect things. [19:07:28] scott talked about wind turbines in mars [19:07:37] lower grav would be fine, idk about presure [19:07:44] it turns out they are surprisingly good sepite the lack of pressure [19:07:53] I guess you can use reynolds number to translate the aerodynamics [19:08:28] considering jet engines run 30k feet up no problems on Earth here.. where human's can't breath too well [19:08:57] though partial pressure of O2 might be a problem in some cases [19:15:37] Rokker JESUS https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/453638004590772224/20180605211430_1.jpg [19:15:49] huh... ok this is cool, the home page on youtube for me finally fixed itself.. [19:16:37] Fluburtur: nah, i think thats buddah [19:16:50] Fluburtur, what's that game? [19:16:51] Fluburtur sproing! [19:16:58] JCB: https://what-if.xkcd.com/30/ [19:17:03] rising storm 2 [19:17:08] a rokker jesus? ew [19:17:16] I had a design with 'pods' that could be dropped on any planets. They would fit below the ship in the middle and includes a small antenna and all the science [19:18:52] Althego: im your own personal jesus [19:18:59] Action: Rokker reaches out and touches Althego [19:19:04] brr [19:21:15] UmbralRaptop Yay Titan... though you'd freeze pretty quick [19:21:41] Obviously you should use an ASRTG [19:22:55] geh... strapped like a backpack? [19:30:14] Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/453641672149172226/20180605212938_1.jpg [19:31:08] Fluburtur: dont judge. you should fire a gun however you are most comfortable shooting it [19:31:20] but viets don't fly [20:15:29] Action: darsie docked two large fuel tanks as orbital depot: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot92.png [20:18:14] darsie: you know, you can use more than 1 docking port at once? [20:19:34] I used it in this design: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/854982495378198262/553C54B4268A0F7468872BBEA70C88A067281898/ [20:19:58] I don't recommend that particular one... it was a pain to dock correctly [20:35:47] so, ive not seen anyone else mention the fact that the foster mother from terminator 2 is the same actor as the immigrant mother telling a bedtime story to 2 kids as the ship sank in titanic [20:38:29] she was also in aliens [20:38:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:38:49] i'm surprised bill paxton wasnt cast [20:41:53] ve2dmn: I didn't. Looks like this works in the VAB, too. [20:45:40] ve2dmn: You mean in a circuit? [20:45:48] loop [20:45:52] transitbiker Weaver? [20:46:04] not just a loop [20:46:27] Well, ofc a space station can multiple ports and docked ships. [20:46:28] but you can use 2, 3 or more docking ports for more stability [20:46:59] keyed docking ports would be nice... forced alignments [20:47:06] JCB: They are. [20:47:25] JCB: check out the Konstruction Ports [20:48:06] well I'm sure there are such in mod' packs [20:48:07] or DockRotate mod [20:48:15] works with vanilla ports even [20:48:21] ^ [20:48:32] so it effectively upgrades your already-launched ships [20:49:09] docking port alignment indicator... although, I'm actually getting pretty good with using just the nav ball. :) [20:50:45] Supercheese: I like the Konstruction ports because you can make the link permanent... But they lack compatibility with standard ports [20:51:29] ve2dmn that like the welding sorta thing? [20:51:36] yes [20:51:56] They have an auto-alignement feature [21:04:35] Rokker finally have the f6f-5n [21:04:46] I can finally research the glorious vb 10 [21:06:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/453665813950627847/20180605230532_1.jpg [21:08:33] Rokker explain https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/453666414402994186/20180605230806_1.jpg [21:13:34] Fluburtur: i cant explain navy planes [21:13:52] Fluburtur: explain what [21:13:55] Spoilers: The VB.10 is ***horrible*** [21:14:06] paper wings apparently [21:14:12] but I want those french jets [21:14:13] awful, awful plane [21:14:20] they are horrible apparently [21:14:22] in a good way [21:14:36] Rokker: why aren't supersonic seaplanes a thing dammit [21:14:48] wasn't there one [21:14:50] from uhh convair [21:15:00] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F2Y_Sea_Dart [21:15:01] oren: they tried [21:15:02] that one [21:15:05] it was dum [21:15:20] Fluburtur: explain what dammit [21:15:29] the ugly ball on the wing [21:15:34] radar [21:16:04] why [21:16:08] mmm... would love model of the Tigercat :) [21:16:13] Fluburtur: for seeing things [21:16:28] no [21:16:38] Fluburtur: yes [21:16:49] no [21:16:51] it ugly [21:16:53] remove it [21:17:02] it's a RADAR, I believe [21:17:09] early ones tended to be... bulgy [21:17:23] it's a malignant tumour [21:17:55] Supercheese: i already said that [21:18:00] and they are still bulgy [21:18:20] a few modern aircraft have wing mounted radar pods [21:19:32] you want ugly..? Go check out Burt Rutan's Boomerang aircraft :P [21:19:55] crpa the mb157 can climb [21:20:02] up to 3000m with no effort [22:45:09] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Don't take down the statues of Emperor Palpatine! The Galactic Empire is part of our heritage! [22:47:36] Scolar_Visari: bit political innit [22:53:01] It'd only be current if we discussed it in the context of the modern First Order. [22:55:08] Scolar_Visari: can we please just try to keep thinly veiled political references out of the channel [22:55:13] no need for them in here [22:56:01] Action: Scolar_Visari senses Rebel scum. [22:56:27] Rokker's right [22:56:28] Please [22:56:36] Nobody needs a heated debate [22:57:49] or even a Lukewarm debate [22:57:49] BenjaminK: About a fictional universe in a channel where such things are pandemic? [22:58:08] Second only to idling, of course. [22:58:28] oh please [23:00:05]