[00:08:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:08:42] Eddi|zuHause: well you would know better by now in this channel [01:14:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:17:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:18:07] Hey guys! Finally got KSP and launched my first rocket...SSTO, just an SRB with a MK1 capsule...Had Valentina do an EVA, capsule instantly exploded. Really confused. [04:18:39] Didn't even let go. [04:26:16] TheKosmonaut: turns out, no. [04:27:32] How do you delete parts that you don't need? My VAB has a bunch of un-used decouplers bc I couldn't find one that fits my second stage lololololol [04:29:02] MunCheese: you drop them on the panel where you bought them [04:31:46] oooohhhhhh... makes sense. Which decoupler do I use for the Jumbo-64 tank??? [04:35:35] Eddi|zuHause: well you should [04:35:56] there's decouplers that decouplers which push away one part and stay attached to the other part, and separators, which detach from both sides and ddrift away as a single debris part. and then for each size (0.625m, 1.25m, 2.5m, 3.75m) [04:37:01] I want a decoupler, trust me. And sereoiusly what is the Jumbo-64 diameter??? [04:37:08] TheKosmonaut: we've had this discussion before, and i don't see it happening... [04:38:10] MunCheese: i always found it a bit bad that it doesn't say the dimensions of a part in the description [04:38:50] I know, right! I should take that to the developers. [04:39:13] Ok [04:39:21] Eddi|zuHause: It's the most annoying thing. [04:39:40] Btw i was joking...BUT SEROIUSLY. WHAT IS THE TANK DIAMETER??!! [04:40:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+q *!*@p5B12E1D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:41:03] OK...did some experimentation and it turns out it's the TS-25. [04:41:29] Hello everyone, I've this problem https://imgur.com/a/8mCJPR9 mission has 700% out of 50% of science [04:41:34] and I cannot complete it [04:41:35] any idea? [04:43:40] Hmm [04:43:57] o/ [04:44:46] I've just deployed the parts, then after launching the probe (it didn't have network) and time warping a bit it jumped to 700% [04:45:37] I think I'll just use the cheat menu [04:47:54] Guest12388: strange. What if you reload to before [04:48:10] Guest81117: hello [04:55:34] TheKosmonaut reload to before I've started the mission? too late I have already restarted the game a couple times trying to debug it [04:56:06] unless it's https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/113323-14x-science-full-reward/ fault [04:59:32] Could be [04:59:37] guys? cusrsor disappeared...kind of important to get Jeb out of the ocean...rocket misfired, so I yeeted the capsule off. [05:00:49] Guys? [05:01:21] MunCheese: your cursor is missing? [05:01:22] My cursor disappeared! I'd ask the KSPedia, but like I just said... [05:01:36] Well, on KSP at least... [05:01:49] Also, are you Russian? [05:01:52] No [05:01:55] lol [05:01:56] oh [05:02:02] Russia is a couple hours away [05:02:03] Just a nickname? [05:02:18] Wait...whaere DO you live? [05:02:36] If we had to fit the description of our Nicks then you have some explaining to do [05:02:40] Japan [05:02:41] And how do I make my cursor appear again? [05:02:45] LOL [05:02:52] which cursor Mun? [05:02:59] Ohhhh...yeah. The MunCheese thing. [05:03:03] Did it disappear suddenly or did you alt tab out? [05:03:25] Uhhhh...what? It's my first day in KSP, you kno. [05:04:12] Probably did that...I went into Jeb's capsule, then I noticed I could move the camera with my cursor, which oddly wasn't there. [05:04:30] Oh. Try middle mouse button? [05:04:33] Click it once [05:04:38] That's mouse look, there won't be a cursor in IVA IIRC [05:04:51] I'm playing on a laptop. [05:05:00] MunCheese: Mac or win? [05:05:05] Mac [05:05:13] Hit C, that will go back to external view, you should get a cursor back then [05:05:31] Did that already, does the exact same thing except outside [05:05:37] Try three finger click or maybe just press escape one time and see if the cursor reappears [05:05:45] Ok... [05:05:45] Oh, I know, I have this same bug some times [05:05:52] right click [05:06:00] that should bring it back in external view [05:06:08] Oh! Esc did it... now I can pluck Jeb out of the ocean [05:06:13] yay! [05:06:52] I think I know whay it didn't go...you're supposed to hit Z before Space, right? [05:07:11] Yes [05:07:19] Throttle up first, then go [05:07:48] Or if your rocket is balanced well enough, you can pucker for a second after hitting space, then throttle up [05:07:58] Oh, yeah. Then when I hit Space again, my second stage fired. Opened the chutes and ditched in the ocean, that's how I got in my current situation. [05:08:09] Happens [05:08:13] welcome to KSP :D [05:09:34] There we go.... better fit [05:09:40] aha [05:09:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Gargamel' by TheKosmonaut!sid152460@id-152460.ealing.irccloud.com [05:11:38] The thing still doesn't launch...am I too heavy or do I just need to wait more? [05:11:52] might need to post some pics [05:12:02] Alright... [05:12:05] Engines in KSP are instant [05:12:18] so waiting won't help, there isn't a throttle up period [05:13:09] You probably don't have enough thrust [05:13:17] ... check yo stage'n - Scott Manley [05:13:17] Moar Boosters! [05:14:38] Alright [05:14:49] Gargamel: in my case.. kind of where I differ from most players. I fiddle with designs a bit rather than putting on more boosters as first thing to do [05:14:53] Let me see what engine I currently have [05:15:30] True JV, but early on, overpowering till you learn to fly is one of the easier routes to take. I fiddle too [05:15:54] And it's more fun :) [05:16:48] I just have a Swivel on the back. I figured more control is better for beginners than more thrust. [05:16:48] plane I made, can over heat in low altittude if I'm not careful.. it only uses two panther engines [05:19:00] Interesting possible solution...downsizing S2 tank. I used the same one for both stages, but for the second I don't need much fuel. [05:19:20] So...X is for cutting the throttle, right? [05:19:55] I made something similar to a proton rocket, to launch early mk1-3 service craft.. though I added a reliant engine to the center core to help with TWR at the early phase [05:28:12] Nah, you need enough power to get your rocket off the ground. Each engine has it's best place for it to be used [05:28:49] I'd post in the forums Gameplay questions asking for help building your rocket. You'll get a lot of good answers there [10:36:36] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-q *!*@p5B12E1D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:22:08] Hi'ya! I have a small question, is there a way to erase all my messages at once? I um... got 900 [11:50:28] irc is not that kind of chat client [11:51:25] Action: packbart drives a stack of Material Bays around the KSC - for Science! [11:51:28] but /clear should rease the screen [11:51:37] *erase [11:52:15] Althego: I thought Pigeon meant the message window in KSP. I don't know how to clear that, either [11:53:46] ah [11:53:48] that can be [11:54:04] i usually delete them at once [11:54:17] so dont need to delete that much [11:54:20] many [11:54:32] build a button pressor [11:54:39] leave it running go oyut for a meal [11:54:48] i guess you could somehow delete it from the persistent.sfs [11:54:51] hopefully not to blank os computer [11:58:44] Ah, I got a bunch from a bug with the deployed science, got 900 in just a few seconds of timewarp. [11:59:00] I just clicked the x 900 times like an adult and got 300 more [12:01:05] Whoever deleted all of curiosity's messages at nasa wasn't paid enough. I think I destroyed the offending station though, so hopefully that's that [12:10:03] ow lol [12:10:30] hopefully it dpnt turn into spam from graveyard [12:22:53] hehe [12:23:07] the insight twitter is not very active lately [12:23:16] we dont even know what happened to the mole [12:30:13] Otherwise, HP3 is entirely healthy - but that was a month ago. https://www.dlr.de/blogs/en/all-blog-posts/The-InSight-mission-logbook.aspx [12:34:24] so the drilling basicly failed by now? [12:34:52] we need people there... would be a matter of an hour to drill that hole :) [12:35:16] they're still not sure. from what I read, the mole might be moving but doesn't have enough friction [12:35:31] maybe holding down the support structure with the arm will help [12:35:45] ok [12:48:44] my, KSC R&D has so many buildings... and I need to rub the science rover against each and all of them [14:12:58] Science Creeper - https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspsc1.jpg [15:27:47] hey guys! MunCheese back, under my default Minecraft gamertag (betcha didn't know I'm a crafter). [15:28:13] I'll be using this nick from now on. [15:28:13] grats? [15:28:36] In other news, today's my elementary school graduation. [15:28:59] And I'll probably come home and play KSP afterwards. [15:30:29] Oh, Eddi|zuHause is on [16:02:15] Althego: Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TzpE2fTMM ! [16:06:42] Mat2ch: got it [16:10:42] Well, it really looks like we'll may hear some music before or in episode 100 [16:11:11] hehe that is months away [16:12:02] 3 1/2 ;) [16:12:52] great. the solar powered rover ran out juice in the VAB's shadow. luckily, I didn't set the brakes. now waiting for it to slowly roll back into the sun... [16:13:05] push it with a kerbal [16:13:13] or grab it with the claw [16:13:54] nah, just had to wait a minute or two and the solar panels got back into the light [16:14:22] I should put more batteries on it, anyway. 200EC isn't going to cut it with so many wheels [16:14:45] if you have many wheels that is just gone in seconds [16:17:00] rescue, kerbal style https://giphy.com/gifs/chKYsvzW41Wgcrw9HX [16:17:09] yes, there was a human in that [16:17:23] seeabove: https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspsc1.jpg - that's what I use to lick all science from all KSC micro-micro-biomes ;) [16:17:24] nice [16:17:54] i just go around in the same plane i use to fly around kerbin to get that science [16:17:57] i use a single jet powered tricycle with a scientist on board [16:17:59] lot smaller [16:18:01] ^ [16:18:04] Althego: "compressed spine? this should help" [16:19:17] I don't fly planes. Never got the hang of it [16:23:26] you dont need to [16:23:38] but in early game you get jets sooner than powered wheels [16:24:04] so it is easier to put a jet powered car together and use that for collecting the microbiomes [16:24:40] can't get ALL the science then though [16:24:46] in this new Science game, I didn't research the aviation tree yet. although I might eventually, I like some of the Mk3 prts [16:25:10] usually plane tech lags behind other tech for me in career [16:25:14] not too important [16:25:39] luckily, I don't have OCD, so I don't feel the need to get *ALL* the science ;) [16:25:48] I think I'll land Jeb on the Mµn, next [16:25:54] but i do feel like it [16:26:06] i still miss the seizmometer from the northern sheldf [16:26:16] and eva in space above a few biomes [16:26:25] i usually collect all from minmus [16:26:29] mun is in progreess [16:26:40] ah. that remindes me. I was thinking about applying the cheat/patch that swaps biome masks of crew report and EVA reports [16:26:52] kerbin is alémost finished, except for the gravioli but that is coming later, still need few hundred thousand for the building upgrade [16:27:05] Valentina spent ages outside the pod, waiting for Northern Ice Shelf to rotate under it [16:27:18] just go out when it is coming [16:27:54] I had a suboptimal orbit so I wasn't sure if'd ever get it. about 99° inclination [16:28:22] and just enough fuel left to deorbit [16:28:25] for the microbiomes use KEI [16:28:32] you can make it in a suborpital hop, maybe from woomerang [16:28:51] it is a repetitive work, so instead one click and ready... [16:28:59] I tried that but ended up in a quite different orbit. Steering north-ish from KSC was easier somehow [16:29:37] kubi: I'd never look at all the KSC buildings, otherwise. I'll drive around and pick up all the "landed at" science [16:30:19] oh right, I could take a Kerbal and jump. that would get some "flying at" science [16:31:59] yes that is what i do for eva [16:32:41] i just man up and have the kerbals get out while flying at 120 [16:33:12] now that they have parachutes i might just have them jump out [16:34:04] i know now what i need. in the tracking station sorting of the ships based on maneuver node remaining time [16:34:58] i spend considerable time planning switching order when there are like 15 flying around (not counting the relays), and of course all nodes coming up one after the other in a short timespan [16:35:36] for parachutes i need to land them on the mun, minmus and taking them outside the soi of kerbin [16:35:45] you get 3 stars this way [16:35:55] but that taking out thing is annoying [16:36:06] so need to have an ultra high delta v craft with nuke [16:36:30] probably i wait until bob comes back from minmus [16:36:42] and then take him and some other out too [16:37:05] I use Kerbal Alarm Clock for that. shows upcoming maneuvers in order and lets me switch to each vessel in turn [16:37:14] yes but that is a mod [16:37:33] sorting the tracking station seems like a very useful thing [16:37:51] and somehow i just thought it yesterday, not sooner [16:37:58] if they do an overhaul of the tracking station that'd be on my wishlist [16:38:18] i remember the node times is a recent addition too [16:38:25] "recent" [16:38:32] after 1.0 [16:38:59] I've to wait 6 days before a science probe comes back... wonder what I could do in that time [16:39:14] what i do, run missions in parallel [16:39:16] coming in from minmus.. right now its just stupid slow, having left the orbit [16:39:33] 46 minutes until bob arrives into minmus soi, relay network is almost set up [16:39:54] ... read: relatively slow.. its leaving minmus pretty quick, but dropping into kerbin's SOI slow [16:40:00] if you have delta v, just choose a non minimum energy return orbit [16:40:23] that is what i did with the probe that took the mini relays there, but it still needs 3 days [16:41:10] in fact it is in an escape orbit going towards kerbin [16:41:19] but has pretty good shielding and a tiny return mass [16:41:20] lol... burn now straight at kerbin? maybe but I doubt heatshield could survive the nearly 4k aero breaking [16:41:40] ... oh wait.. [16:41:43] no.. [16:42:05] nearly forgot, stupid contract came up, wanted me to shift the plane of the probe's orbit first [16:42:26] hehe i almost never take these [16:42:32] turns out, have to do /that/ down at around 75km kerbin orbit.. its something like 5deg shift [16:42:40] either they want me to change a predetermined transferring craft or a relay [16:42:46] i dont want to change either [16:43:21] they wanted me to phase the orbit by 110 degrees, I was like, nope.. not enough fuel even [16:43:58] shift the plane.. I can do, it was already pretty close to the original.. [16:46:39] oh definitely do plane shifts early on. like during launch if possible. [16:48:00] you might be able to do a Hohmann style maneuver for plane shifts though if you're bored enough. Shift apo way out so your velocity is single digits, shift plane at apo, drop apo again on the other side [16:49:11] bielliptic transfer? [16:49:28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-elliptic_transfer [16:50:06] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sweet-brown-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that [16:58:22] right, that thing [16:58:40] except for plane shift instead of .... yeah [17:11:45] mach0z unfortunately, the orbit low is same as where I'm passing, but the peak is shifted over enough, I have to do a slight phase change as well. Otherwise I'd have slammed thrusters and moved over. [17:39:39] why are there applicant kerbals for astronaut? who wouldwant to go there to blow up? [17:45:35] Weeeee [17:45:46] Fluburtur uploaded a video! [17:45:53] hah! [17:46:14] but it is not for the plane [17:47:53] doesn't matter [17:47:59] Fluburtur uploaded :P [17:50:36] 15 minutes until bob reaches minmus soi [17:50:49] i can do 1-2 small contracts until then [17:55:17] he needs sharper chisels :D [18:09:15] Flub where? [18:09:44] Action: JVFoxy stepped out to get coffee.. ended up spending half hour or so dealing with clean up [18:09:57] not cuz of coffee, cuz someone left mess in kitchen. >.< [18:22:45] JVFoxy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWnvdOyrA9s [18:22:45] YouTube - Creating the ultimate crap guitar (from various parts) [18:23:11] JVFoxy: a mess is better than a dump... [18:23:40] sometimes it seems borderline here [18:24:17] I mean seriously... -makes arm motions to the backyard, "uuuugh... I had to tell the one, don't pile up in front of my window, thats an escape route.." [18:25:39] Fluburtur ever watch that youtuber who does various things with guitars, including making usual ones? [18:25:43] er.. unusual I mean [18:28:23] bob reached minmus soi [18:31:29] Mat2ch -face plants- Uhhh.... ok? whhhhhhy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLwK-4ESCNI [18:31:29] YouTube - Mario on a NINTENDO guitar! [18:32:32] I've seen that [18:33:07] ya but.. ugh. That poor NES [18:33:33] I mean, its cool and all. But.. guess I'm still sour sister got to keep our only NES box [18:35:36] Was at a friend's a while back, he was going through videos on guitars from a few youtubers. I don't remember who it was, but they were doing some going back and forth competition thing on ideas. [18:36:11] was some various build ones too. [18:43:18] guys, i have some candy! [18:46:24] and i just drooled on the carpet [18:46:33] i swear i'm not mentally retarded [18:47:09] at least drool doesn't stain -eyes empty coffee mug- [19:34:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:36:08] what's that comic that shows how much amperage various things can handle? I remember it shows a crescent wrench in a fusebox [19:37:32] nvm not a comic but http://i.imgur.com/TtFotWu.jpg [19:37:41] https://i.redd.it/vyo3y5j4zd231.jpg [19:41:13] Neal: any relation to the Photonicinduction videos? -points to wrench- Did a video on putting 5000amps through a wrench, watched it melt [19:41:30] I kinda stopped watching that guy [19:41:37] he seems self destructive [19:41:54] lol... he stopped posting 2 years ago [19:42:33] uh oh [19:42:36] given what I read... think he's not posting any more. No, not dead. Was having relationship issues [19:42:49] dave jones: "UPDATE: [19:42:50] The rumors of PhotonicInduction's death were greatly exaggerated! [19:42:50] He's alive and well, living happily, and hopes to be back doing videos soon." [19:43:11] mm.. update from where and how long ago though? [19:43:21] january 2019 from eevblog [19:44:43] Ah.. photonic had posted a vid, but think its been set private since or removed. Was a link to it through some other site [19:44:55] explained something about shift in relationships [19:48:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:16] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:36:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:44:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:49:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:50:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:11:21] ? [21:13:26] b [21:13:28] bbbb [21:13:28] b [21:13:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:13:29] bb [21:13:29] b [22:35:45] Hey, uh, just in case you weren't here yesterday...I launched a suborbital rocket with just Valentina inside, then had her do an EVA. A few seconds after she got out, the ship exploded. Any idea what caused this? [22:37:02] Did the F3 log say anything? [22:45:40] ...wat [22:52:01] Please remain seated until the ride has come to a complete stop. [22:57:17] Ok...EVAs wouldn't exist if that was true, am I right? [22:57:54] no, but there are pressure limits in the atmosphere. did the ship explode or did Valentina go poof? [22:58:29] (well, yes, you are right. Not sure what that "no" references ;) [22:59:28] and pressing F3 should give you a log window with the reason why things exploded [23:00:01] The ship went kaboom [23:00:13] Ok...I see what u mean about f3 [23:00:29] Attached bigger engine to the rocket...let's give it a go [23:00:33] hmm. maybe Valentina collided into something while climbing out of the airlock. any clipped tanks? [23:02:19] No. [23:02:45] Also, I'm up right now and I'm tumbling. Any advice on getting straigtened out before entry? [23:03:46] oh never mind I toggled attitude control and I'm stable [23:06:23] When should I deploy chutes? [23:06:32] Is there an optimal reentry angle? [23:07:12] Sorry...it's my first time reentering [23:07:18] not sure. I usually target something just about 30km Pe [23:09:42] I'm doing science and Jeb's still alive *humm* [23:10:42] Ok...I opened chute at 500m and Jeb hit the water too hard....oops [23:12:34] yeah, you should probably open it some km up. it then fully opens at 1000m [23:12:42] actually, you can already stage it before reentry [23:13:13] it will open when slow enough and the air pressure reaches a tweakable limit [23:19:17] oh. [23:19:36] Yeah, but doesn't it get ripped by aero forces? [23:20:01] Oh bai...