[00:00:26] it would be interesting if KSP had a replay feature where you could watch your mission as a video and browse it at timepoints of what happened. [00:00:28] well, like, you can put nine engines on the bottom of a big tall fuel tank, put some scaled up landing legs on the sides, and then fly it up, save a little fuel, and try to return to the launch pad and land the thing [00:00:51] but it wouldn't necessarily tell you the exact inputs or forces or mechanical stresses or anything that the falcon 9 goes through [00:01:14] it would be close though? [00:01:39] s/it would/would it [00:02:27] again, it depends on what you mean by "close" [00:02:47] I've certainly gotten roughly the same experience with some of my rockets [00:03:02] and had the challenge of a vertical landing [00:03:25] but if you mean "would it follow the same trajectories", well, no [00:03:30] for starters ksp doesn't have wind [00:03:36] and I don't think RO adds that either [00:04:49] Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/387755997965320195/20171206003212_1.jpg [00:05:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/387756006827884544/20171204191222_1.jpg [00:05:31] Fluburtur: he's beautiful [00:05:38] we found a cool glitch [00:05:58] would it be the equivalent of using Rome: Total War as history documentaries of historical battles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOepuz2hBo [00:05:58] YouTube - Decisive Battles - Cynoscephalae (Rome vs Macedon) [00:08:44] yeah, probably [00:10:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:10:26] lol [00:17:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/387759296131235841/20170607214432_1.jpg [00:23:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/387760830667816960/20170611002504_1.jpg [00:32:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:41:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:41:07] "I can picture my own retirement already. If I were a healthy person aged 65 or older today, I would exercise my wits by trying to reach legendary rank in Hearthstone, get an occasional workout in with the HTC Vive..." [00:41:11] https://theconversation.com/how-playing-video-games-can-change-your-retirement-56769 [00:41:14] lel [00:53:49] Huh, new module manager found an error in indicator lights [02:16:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:04:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:09:43] https://78.media.tumblr.com/33560f8dd9d9bf172c7fbfdcf2a66ce7/tumblr_inline_p009om52YH1ri4d3y_540.png [03:48:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:58:23] Hrm now I want to drive something from Minmus to Mun. Wonder how hard that is. [05:00:51] Huh! Place a node, stretch it until you leave Minmus's SOI, slide it until it crosses the Mun's. [05:01:06] 84.6 m/s :-) [05:41:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:47:39] https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/12/04/0519215/two-stars-collided-and-solved-half-of-astronomys-problems-now-what [06:56:01] :3 [06:58:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:58:46] Cynephobn? [07:12:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:15:30] Althego: transliteration shenanigans. Compare with KOHCTPYKTOP [07:28:30] doesnt help [07:32:30] !# + [07:33:15] ^ [07:33:43] = SUPERNOVY (sort of) [07:34:21] equals me sort of! [07:34:32] sort of lol [12:41:48] https://twitter.com/louisd13/status/938193707609681920 [12:41:48] @AirbusInTheUS @MitchellAirport @flightradar24 @flightaware @AirportWebcams @A350Blog Sometimes Google photos has a& https://t.co/ccyrsfcH8g [12:58:31] hehe planetrain [13:55:40] Action: Eddi|zuHause has a hard time not reading "planet" [14:00:06] ;tell Draconiator I think I solved the bounce problem [14:00:06] Fluburtur: I'll let draconiator know when I see them [14:07:15] I found what causes the plane bounce on load [14:07:38] the LY-35 medium landing gear clips into the ground but other gears don't have that problem [14:19:15] hi [14:20:25] lo [14:20:39] how create a mod for kerbal space program ? [14:23:28] That depends on what you want to make. The forums should have tutorials for parts and setting up software Scot writing code. [14:25:32] I wanter a very big modification of parts and mechanics of flight [14:27:30] I am an aerospace engineer and wanted to bring more realism [14:28:41] isnt far enough for aero physics? [14:33:11] Like the mod FAR? [14:33:25] oh, they left. [14:35:08] I wish there was a way to put a minimum combat distance in BDA [14:35:32] I have a plane that can't engage at less than 1km but it insists on hugging his target [14:35:40] that happens to have defensive turrets [15:02:34] the LY-35 medium landing gear clips into the ground but other gears don't have that problem <-- oh yeah i've had that problem [15:48:19] Fluburtur: go big or you don't go home? [15:48:38] I guess [15:48:44] (about landing gears) [15:52:30] Today is the 100th Anniversary of the Halifax explosion [15:53:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion [15:57:59] It's also another anniversary in Montreal. A dark one that I will simply mention in passing as it is highly politicised [16:25:52] for any of you music nuts https://youtu.be/zHWex94-mHg?t=443 [16:25:52] YouTube - Piano Sounds Never Heard Before! [16:50:12] ve2dmn: 100th anniversary of something else too [16:51:15] I mentioned the Halifax Explosion because it's Wikipedia article of the day [16:51:47] It was the biggest man-made explosion prior to nuclear bombs [16:57:16] 100th anniversary of finnish independence [16:57:18] declaration [16:59:44] Ezko_: Moriens. [16:59:47] gz [16:59:52] Hyvää päivää [17:14:02] :) [17:25:07] hyvää päivää [17:28:42] such umlats [17:29:11] *umlaut [17:34:04] *umlaute [17:37:27] um... lattes might have milk in them [17:37:38] pretty sure I want a coffee, regardless [17:50:08] Yay, coffee. [18:05:12] ve2dmn: so the finnish people celebrated their independence by making the greatest firework ever halfway around the world? [18:06:03] Eddi|zuHause: I doubt it. The Halifax explosion was an accident with over 2000 dead and countless injuried [18:07:10] The only (weak) link between the 2 events is WW1 [18:07:28] sorry, it was a terrible joke [18:10:22] a butterfly was responsible [18:10:58] sandbox: The accident was because 2 ship captain were playing the most dangerous game of 'chicken' [18:11:21] "You move away", "No you move away" [18:12:16] yeah, i've seen a video about that yesterday [18:12:25] Sixty Symbols? [18:12:34] yeah, i think so [18:14:30] If that's the one, she spelled 'Dartmouth' as 'Darthmouth' [18:15:26] i wouldn't have noticed that [18:28:12] Most Canadian have heard of it because of the 'heritage minutes' [18:30:41] A sort of 'mini history lesson' that was between 2 ads on TV [18:33:45] Hah! "Never Visiting Dres..." is a loading hint [18:34:13] You cannot visit what is not there [18:34:31] the conspiracy [18:38:21] Dres is just to distract you from the awful truth hidden at gas planet 2. [18:38:44] I'll be happy to enter Kerbol's SOI [18:39:35] is it possible to place a planet far enough that it would be impossible to reach? [18:39:49] is there an outside to Kerbol's SOI? [18:39:55] maybe it would be just bugged [18:40:00] As in, requires 18000dv ? [18:40:07] dont think you can leave that [18:40:16] Out, no. In, maybe. [18:42:27] ve2dmn: how would something be impossible to reach? certainly there's a finite escape velocity, and no object you wanted to reach a finite distance away would require surpassing that [18:43:26] Eddi|zuHause: You are limited to around 17000-17500 dv with the LV-N engine [18:46:41] google thinks escape velocity is 13000m/s [18:46:55] from kerbin orbit [18:47:18] Eddi|zuHause: with 999999999999999999 T800 (or 1.25E17 Orange tanks) and a single LV-N you get 17261m/s of dv [18:47:55] so it should definitely be possible to reach that [18:48:27] to get 17000, you only need 136 T800 tanks [18:49:45] granted, my math is probably way off, because that was based on an old version of KSP [18:50:34] also, 13km/s means you need only like 4km/s dV, because you're already travelling at orbital velocity already [18:51:32] From Kerbin's surface, kerbol escape only needed like 7 km/s pre 1.0 [18:52:15] Right... Kerbol is probably the hardest place to go beside 'leaving the solar system' [18:52:42] Impossible to orbit I could see (something interior to Moho), though yeah, flybys are always possible. [18:52:46] that sounds about right [18:53:25] to "land" on the sun means cancelling out the orbital velocity [18:54:08] Eddi|zuHause: but you are ultimatly limited in dV but the ISP of the engine you use [18:54:15] so going from 1->0, wheras escaping means going from 1->sqrt(2) [18:54:20] so you can't go 'anywhere' [18:55:06] It's possible to place a another planet somewhere in that solar system that would be impossible to reach [18:55:18] I'm just wondering how far it would be [18:55:37] using the ion engine, you get a lot more dV [18:55:59] My old math said 36km/s of dv, but I'm not sure it's still valid [18:56:27] you could also add a refuelling stop at jool or something [18:56:56] where escape velocity might be even easier to reach [18:57:00] with ISRU then it becomes possible to get MUCH MUCH further [21:21:49] Could be worse. We could get another Twilight sequel! [21:21:49] Scolar_Visari: I just read the plot to Mazerunner. It sounds bad [21:21:49] ve2dmn: I've tried to watch it. I just turned to something else instead. [21:23:23] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if there ever has been a young adult sub-genre movie with believable (or at least, likeable) characters and a plot that wasn't a poorly conceived romance written by people whose experience in the matter is restricted to dating simulation games. [21:24:35] the first hunger games book was actually pretty good about that [21:25:11] The only one I can think of is 'The Fault in our Stars' [21:26:21] I didn't actually like that one very much [21:27:31] I thought the characters were kinda illogical or fake-deep. But they felt fake-deep in a way that people actually are in real life so it wasn't like totally ridiculous or anything, just kind of not a fun read for me [21:27:55] I suppose I'll just have to stick with Life is Strange. [21:28:08] You read the book, saw the movie or both? [21:28:49] I read the book [21:29:23] If you didn't like the book, you are not missing anything by not watching the movie [21:30:49] As opposed to the Martian movie were I think the book and the movie are different [21:31:21] But I really want a Pathfinder for xmas :D [21:31:27] hahaha [21:31:29] don't we all [21:31:42] on a related topic, a wrinkle in time (one of the YA novels I have the fondest memories of) is getting a movie apparently! [21:31:44] it's so cute [21:32:06] Action: Scolar_Visari would really like 1:1 scale Mars Exploration Rover, albeit only for the Pu-238. [21:32:41] tawny: Meanwhile, I must still wait for an adaptation of Rendezvous with Rama. [21:32:43] Scolar_Visari: if it's a reproduction, it might be Puny-238 instead [21:32:57] ahhhh [21:33:10] I'm not so sure I want that, anymore [21:33:23] I'm too afraid whoever writes/directs it would just make it bad [21:34:12] tawny: you know that the author of The Fault in Our Stars has a youtube channel? [21:34:32] I think I heard about that [21:34:52] ve2dmn: Enough for my, erm, research purposes. [21:34:59] (by the way, our stars have no faults, they are fusing well within operational limits) [21:35:04] The ULTIMATE Lava Lamp! [21:35:17] hahaha [21:35:20] I liked his crash course history video [21:35:52] "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in our universe, that it has entropy" [21:36:02] tawny: Given the well received nature of Arrival (the Amy Adams one, not the Charlie Sheen one), I think the world is prepared for a Rendezvous with Rama adaptation. [21:36:17] You get Bismuth-209 instead [21:36:24] oh, that is a good point, arrival was done rather well [21:36:35] I'm worried it'll end up more like gravity, but hopefully not [21:36:36] It's not so much radioactive, as radioactish [21:36:50] link to example of crash course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhL5DCizj5c [21:36:50] YouTube - Coal, Steam, and The Industrial Revolution: Crash Course World History #32 [21:36:58] Supernovy: Does it glow in the dark without an external power source? [21:37:31] It glows almost as brightly as Marie Curie's diary. [21:37:33] tawny: It shouldn't be too hard. Just wide angle shots of a human spaceship drifting towards a giant cylinder. [21:37:39] Supernovy: Eh, close enough. [21:44:50] btw, the reason I linked to that specific episode is that it help to remind me that we live in interesting times [21:46:10] Psht, the most interesting time in history was when that one person invented fire. [21:47:14] For most of humanity things were grim, life expectancy was low, most never travel very far and the vast majority of people were farmers... [21:47:27] ... now I can watch a live stream from the ISS [21:48:12] and talk with random people across the globe about my trip 10000km from home [21:49:15] (I'm talking about with Japan trip with people from the Netherland in an other channel) [21:49:18] Eh, life expectancy hasn't actually changed that much if you remove deaths during childbirth. [21:49:56] Scolar_Visari: I'm alive because of modern medecine. 150 years ago, my appendix would have killed me at 15 [21:49:57] And life *during* the industrial revolution did NOT improve. Lives got shorter and more brutal for people who made the transition from rural life to early modern cities. [21:50:31] ve2dmn: People sort of still die from that. [21:50:46] True [21:51:16] but it used to be fatal everywhere [21:52:40] also the whole childbirth thing itself is definitely way better than it used to be, which is nice [21:58:14] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to restart Windows for an ill timed update. [21:59:36] frustrating that thrust lines are blocked by wings and control surfaces - in reality the exhaust would slipstream around the part [22:01:04] wow, 17:00 and already dark out [22:26:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:34:06] supreme champion https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQVkvzdVwAAvLQy.jpg:large [22:51:01] hah [22:51:15] NiceHash mining site is hacked. [22:51:15] (bitcoin) sorry for offtopic. [22:53:05] Action: QuantumRaptor quacks at sandbox [22:53:17] speaking of bitcoin, valve are dropping it as a payment option [22:53:35] oh. [22:53:38] how sad. [22:53:48] That sarcasm though... [22:53:50] i got "a few" as in part of a bitcoin. [22:53:51] :P [22:54:20] not honks? [22:59:50] Oh, like a goose? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_goose#/media/File%3AKanadagans_Branta_canadensis.jpg [23:00:39] Around here, the geese are savage. [23:05:46] I'm pretty sure they're savage everywhere [23:06:08] something something that vehicle has far too many canards [23:06:47] hahaha [23:08:38] nice [23:09:32] Canardida? [23:14:02] i have made a discovery in IT [23:14:13] exFAT formatting matters on USB sticks! [23:14:31] http://usbflashspeed.com/274288 vs http://usbflashspeed.com/274292 [23:15:08] trading compatability for speed it seems. [23:15:13] sounds about right. [23:15:57] i thought exfat was pretty much supported by everything except DOS? [23:16:30] Well, it's been reverse engineered because it's a proprietary microsoft spec for SD cards. [23:16:42] Microsoft has the only "official" implementation. [23:17:02] i am pretty sure MACS were completely fine without any hiccups.. [23:17:18] linux kernels used to have issues but those seem to be long gone also [23:17:27] like *cough* audio * cough* problems [23:18:51] The fact is... "there is no financial incentive for open-source vendors to purchase a license for these algorithms" [23:19:14] why would you need an extra MB/sec or so of write speed? [23:19:54] because small files are painful to transfer to stick when you're not paid hourly? :D [23:21:03] testing also my old USB 2.0 sticks [23:21:06] never tested them [23:21:20] zip them? [23:21:57] my oldest stick is pqi USB 2.0 4GB (used to be smallest in the market) [23:22:10] Also, are those sequential write blocks, random write blocks, or sector size of the formatted SD card? [23:22:25] write blocks [23:22:29] files are bigger [23:22:37] I have a USB 1.0 2GB that I paid $120 for like 20 years ago. [23:22:47] 2GB? [23:22:52] you mean 2MB? :D [23:23:02] My sister used to own 128MB USB 1.0 stick [23:23:13] it's a sandisk 2GB flash drive [23:23:30] 97 for 2GB.. [23:23:41] for $120 it sounds cheap [23:23:56] I remember my computer internal 5.25" HDD was 4GB that time [23:23:57] yea, it was. and at the time 2GB was gigantic. [23:24:12] I used to use a powermac 5500 with a 1.5GB HDD :/ [23:24:26] And my IBM XT has one of those $3000 10MB HDDS [23:24:36] I used to have Packard Bell Media PC (overkill by these days) [23:24:59] had pretty much anything you could imagine would be e-penis viagra these days [23:25:04] Dual 5" floppy drives, a 10MB HDD, and a modem. Someone put real money into this IBM XT. [23:28:02] Action: QuantumRaptor is fairly certain that FireFlower is pushing the language rule [23:28:05] 16000 Finnish marks in 1996... 15" 1024x764 full color VGA monitor, Roland LAPC-I, Intel Pentium 1 "MMX" 200MHz, 32MB EDO-RAM, 4GB Seagate 5.25" drive, 2x 3.5" floppies, 8x CD-ROM drive, Analog TV, Virtual Fax & VOIP (BEFORE IT WAS A THING!), 36.8k MODEM, Windows 95 Packard Bell Edition (Customized by MS lol) [23:28:22] (carry on with vintage computing) [23:28:44] Voodoo 2 and 3! [23:29:00] A video card?! wat [23:29:02] also [23:29:09] Video capturing card! [23:29:38] also dedicated game port, 2x USB 1.1 and 1 USB port at front panel! [23:29:56] IR remote to control mouse, phone or tv! [23:30:17] Good stereo speakers (no bass though) [23:30:40] iirc i went from a powermac 5500... to some weird athlon or 686 or something... to a pentium 4. [23:30:46] And the crazy thing is I had no idea we actually had the meanest machine in my home town :D [23:31:21] I was complaining my friend that his Duke Nukem 3D must be different version because sounds were totally "blant" (Cheap soundblaster Midi) [23:31:32] little did I know back then :D [23:31:46] I've only had like 5 computer systems in my life. [23:32:14] Well, along with the tens of other computers i've used. [23:32:23] At least I seem to have skipped windows Me. [23:32:49] (My engineering class was straight win2k pro NT.) [23:33:03] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-84mjV3CI [23:33:03] YouTube - The Secret of Monkey Island with various sound cards [23:33:32] compare 1:32 and 4:50 [23:33:42] that was my difference back then :D [23:33:54] Playing quake 3 on like $7000 CAD systems was funny though. "You mean this computer can run Quake at max?!" [23:34:22] you mean you don't have SlideFX? [23:34:36] Along with the honkin massive CRT flat screen monitors. [23:34:41] Yes, CRT flat screen. [23:35:03] the weird thing people don't know anymore about SlideFX... it was a thing along with OpenGL and DirectX... though It was a way better! [23:35:14] better graphics, higher framerates :D [23:35:15] iirc these were OpenGL machines. [23:35:31] ah CRT flat screens [23:35:50] They weren't thin, or light, but the screen surface was flat. [23:35:52] never again going to take those to lan parties [23:36:03] They were probably 24" CRTs [23:36:23] it was kinda funny back in 2006 most people still were using CRT's [23:36:37] then 2009 suddenly majority all ready using TFT flats [23:37:11] Because they were shoved as new hardware by the manufacturers. [23:37:26] That's the main reason 4k gaming is a thing, instead of 144hz gaming. [23:37:43] it's much more expensive to run at 4k currently. [23:37:47] 4K is awesome on 42" monitor [23:38:04] pixel sniping got a whole new meaning that way :D [23:38:27] I think our first PC was... Atari PC-1.. [23:38:55] I had a ][e that we probably bought from the local elementary school for wholesale. [23:38:56] 5.25" floppy drive, I think it had EEROM as main storage to store OS.. [23:39:14] it had dual external floppy drives :/ [23:39:29] heh but did you have 1500b/s modem made by Nokia? [23:39:44] my Mother was the first ones in Finland to try working from home :D [23:39:54] that modem though :D [23:39:59] 1500b/s... [23:40:29] All that I can think about now, in regards to old modems... are scenes from Sneakers. [23:40:43] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105435/ [23:49:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net