[00:30:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:01:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:16:17] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: I just looked at the Universe's source code. As it turns out, The Secret of Gravity will require a major expansion. [01:18:51] Ooooh I like this https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?id=NASM-A19740732000_PS02&max_w=1000 [01:20:55] Huh https://airandspace.si.edu/sites/default/files/images/collection-objects/record-images/NASM-A19740733000_PS01.jpg [01:26:24] That first stage appears to have something on its face. [01:34:39] ve2dmn: would New Horizons have enough processing power to fall victim to it? [01:35:07] also surely a spaceprobe would use Mission-Elapsed-Time for all its internal dates and times [01:35:57] Ah, but they use the Julian Calendar! [01:38:41] also I know geosync solar power is often talked about [01:38:52] but has anyone ever modelled using a mirror at geosync to get near permanent sunlight at some location [01:38:56] then putting the power station on the surface [01:38:56] I haven not check what OS the probe runs and if it has the bug [01:41:09] FltAdmVonSpiz: There were Russian experiments with giant, unfolding mirrors at several points in history. [01:41:21] Albeit for lower orbits. [01:41:29] There's also that Futurama episode... [01:42:49] Behold . . . Znamya! https://sm-news.ru/upload/resize_cache/iblock/c8c/510_360_2/c8c05f4681aafc748f75de956948d91a.jpg [01:43:26] Also: Depending on the particular concept, some forms of Solar Power Satellites use mirrors to reflect concentrated Sunlight on to photovoltaics or boilers. [01:44:45] Scolar_Visari:& did your join line include continuity with your previous parting one? [01:45:07] yeah [01:45:13] just the mass requirements SPS system are just absurd [01:45:20] even with LEO only launches with orbital tugs [01:45:22] its infeasible [01:45:35] found the CPU of New Horizon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoose-V [01:45:41] Raptop: Yes. I only 'reset' them after 24 hours. [01:45:48] hm [01:45:58] FltAdmVonSpiz: Most don't actually involve launching all but the most complicated parts from Earth. [01:46:12] eh I question the feasibility of space fabrication of solar panels in my lifetime [01:46:18] silicon foundries are hard enough to build on earth [01:46:31] Hence the use of mirrors, rather than photovoltaics, as they are easier to produce in situ from asteroidal (which is now an adjectives) and Lunar regolith. [01:47:01] have to use PV at some point though, as I hate to imagine how much allt he mercury for those boilers would mass [01:47:18] and there is none available in near earth space that isn't on the Earth's surface [01:47:20] Now if you can produce those spiffy unfolding Solar power Jump Sails from Battletech, than launching from Earth might be practical. [01:47:44] FltAdmVonSpiz: What? Why mercury? Most proposed since the 70's use Brayton Cyclers with helium and another inert gas. [01:47:55] the traditional boiler cycle for space use is mercury [01:48:17] brayton cycle doesn't have a boiler :P having a boiler by defintion makes it a rankine cycle [01:48:21] Yeah, er, back when von Braun was alive. Even bimodal NTRs would use Brayton Cyclers. [01:49:13] Though if piping mass is not a concern, you could use water as is the case on Earth. [01:49:41] the dimensions of a water cycle are problematic though [01:50:10] It'd be a long term thing if you have serious industry. Water being fairly common. [01:50:12] carbon dioxide cycle might be useful on orbit since helium is expensive [01:51:28] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders the reality that graphene Solar panels could, in actuality, be Jump Sails. [01:52:34] unless you could get specific mass of solar space power below a kiloton per gigawatt, it ain't going nowhere [01:52:35] Now all we need is K-F Drives and we'll be all set. [01:53:05] FltAdmVonSpiz: That's what lasers are for. [01:53:17] how does a laser help that? [01:53:33] Blinding investors. [01:54:33] Alternatively: The mirrors themselves need not be very solid. Some concepts for Solar Thermal Propulsion involve inflated parabolic concentrating mirrors. [01:54:46] Balloon power. [01:56:08] Hey, an actual picture this time http://www.nss.org/settlement/nasa/spaceresvol2/images/beamedfig35.GIF [01:59:44] I went down the rabbit hole of trying to find info on New Horizon OS... [02:00:01] My best guess are VXworks and Nucleus RTOS [02:01:33] All rewritten to consider Pluto and Charon as planets, no doubt. [02:02:13] in the case of VXworks, the time object is 'secs since Epoch' [02:02:59] (at least that what it returns) [02:03:10] ve2dmn: Wait a second . . . They're counting the time since their last epoch advancement from Empire Earth? [02:04:11] well 1970-01-01 [02:04:20] ve2dmn: I get the impression that New Horizons will have insufficient power in the mid-late 2020s. [02:04:28] also im annoyed that companies dont publish price lists properly any more [02:04:32] damn commercial sensitivity [02:04:46] causing problems for my dissertation :( [02:05:13] Raptop: something like that, but it could still run for a while on low power [02:05:26] Just, not everything [02:06:04] Raptop: Supposedly, it will still have enough power for communication with Earth until the 30s. [02:06:21] hm [02:06:22] at bits per seconds [02:07:20] The Voyagers are sending back data at those rates now. [02:07:24] ve2dmn: That's enough for some online games, I guess. [02:08:01] AoE2 is designed for a few hundred bits per second I believe [02:08:10] I was thinking earlier. [02:08:20] Like, those games you played on the primitive internet. [02:08:29] Scolar_Visari: Ultima Online? [02:08:33] ve2dmn: Simpler. [02:08:33] also isnt the power thing just a function of the target receding more than anything [02:08:42] so can't we compensate by building ever more absurd antennas [02:08:54] I wonder if you could lock it up with the SKA [02:09:13] Scolar_Visari: pre-1997? [02:09:23] ve2dmn: Yeah. The old browser games. [02:09:39] Action: Scolar_Visari considers contracting ComStar to tack HPGs on to old probes. [02:09:43] Barren Realm Elite? [02:10:12] ve2dmn: That's the ticket! [02:10:19] Couldn't put a name on that one. [02:10:31] SKA is rather long wavelengths, right? [02:10:31] or BRE for those who played [02:11:01] Teehee https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/screens/9/7/e/gfs_87982_2_3.jpg [02:11:04] Action: Raptop knows that the VLA was used for some craft. [02:12:30] Perhaps Mars Rover 2020 can play better online games? [02:13:15] Scolar_Visari: thoses were the days... [02:13:36] ve2dmn: I actually stuck with C&C myself [02:13:45] Starcraft being for proles. [02:13:50] lol [02:13:56] TA FTW! [02:14:14] Homeworld and Grount Control above all! [02:14:25] +1 for Homeworld [02:14:43] "Mothership" [02:14:56] (you heard her voice didn't you?) [02:15:02] Action: Scolar_Visari still recalls the hesitant voices of ships ordered to force-fire on friendlies. [02:15:08] "Uh . . . You sure?" [02:15:27] "OF COURSE I'M SURE THAT'S WHY I HELD DOWN CONTROL!" [02:15:41] Voyagers xmit at 8.4 GHz (or 2.3 for engineering data). jVLA can observe at 1-50 GHz& [02:15:55] "Everyone is gone... Karak is burning..." [02:15:56] Scolar_Visari: Hah! [02:16:10] ve2dmn: I did, prior to Windows 10, have all of my OS sound effects ripped directly from Homeworld's audio. [02:16:22] :) [02:16:51] That was a lot of trouble, but I suppose I do need to match my Kharak desktop background. [02:17:18] "The SKA will provide continuous frequency coverage from 50 MHz to 14 GHz in the first two phases of its construction. A third phase will then extend the frequency range up to 30 GHz" [02:17:20] o_O [02:17:30] Guess it could work. [02:18:00] Scolar_Visari: I kind of felt angry when I warped into that mission where the Bentusi are under attack [02:18:17] SKA is one of those insane projects [02:18:19] ve2dmn: You see, the audio files for Homeworld were unhelpfully labeled as numbers, so finding a particular sound effect meant listening to hundreds of different files. [02:18:24] that teaches us just how ridiculous electronics are now [02:18:30] Homeworld was a glorious game [02:18:35] lOng may it endure [02:18:39] ve2dmn: I felt angrier when I had to deal with Kadeshi Swarmers. [02:18:40] Deserts of Kharak was fun too [02:18:53] Garden... of Kadesh [02:19:08] Action: Scolar_Visari has an Orca named Garden of Kadesh. [02:19:31] Which reminds me, that'll probably get more use now that bulk passenger missions actually take up an entire ship at a time now. [02:19:37] Scolar_Visari: I managed to capture a full group of 20 swamers the first time I played [02:19:47] it took a LOT of work [02:20:28] Psht, strike craft are obsolete after the Kadeshi missions. But those quad-ion cannon frigates . . . [02:20:50] ALMA does 31 to 1000 GHz, so that's out. [02:21:00] There are usefull for 1 mission. That abandonned alien ship [02:21:06] they* [02:21:13] ve2dmn: With the handy Taiidani Missile Destroyer! [02:21:18] Scolar_Visari: strike craft are glorious [02:21:20] especially in skirmish [02:21:22] :D [02:21:31] I just loed to jump on top of the enemy with carriers and support frigates [02:21:34] and unload hundreds of fighters [02:21:40] Nothing says, "Go away strikecraft" like a missile destroyer firing off 16 rounds of insta-kill, homing goodness. [02:21:43] in their resource operatino [02:22:07] FltAdmVonSpiz: By the time you got hundreds of fighters, the enemy could probably get a gravwell generator up and running. [02:22:29] gravwell generators never seemed to be that useful [02:22:46] by the time I got to the last mission, my 'wall formation' of frigates was too big to see outside of the map [02:23:06] They're far down the techtree but absolutely lethal against people who try pulling strike craft shenanigans off in late Mothership games. [02:23:28] ve2dmn: Especially with those nlips on in vanilla Homeworld. [02:24:21] I had capture that entire 'ball' of ion frigate in the 3rd to last mission [02:24:27] 150, I think... [02:24:42] To the point where the engine refuse another capture [02:24:49] Murderous on those frame rates back when Homeworld was new. [02:26:43] Hrm . . . I *do* have some spare Oblivion drone sound effects. [02:27:18] I still have my GOTY Homeworld CD [02:27:45] Same here. Though I think I lost the soundtrack CD. [02:27:54] Still have the original manual plus the Prima guide. [02:28:19] I still have my original box of Outpost 1 [02:28:28] I take it there's a meter of dust on it? [02:29:11] yep [02:29:24] it sits next to the Simcity floppy edition [02:29:36] Let's see . . . Still have Metal Fatigue, the original (and justifiably unused) Diablo 1 . . . Return to Zork! [02:30:10] Though I don't have the Return to Zork manual, so all my playthroughs prematurely end at the schoolhouse during the pop quiz. [02:31:02] I have most of my old stuff, but I got rid of the boxes over the years [02:31:46] Still have the original boxes for Fallout, Simcity, C&C, Outpost, Outpost 2 and a few others [02:32:01] Giant robots http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/87625-metal-fatigue-windows-front-cover.jpg [02:32:08] I think also Xwing VS Tie [02:32:44] Outpost 2: Extinction is not an option. Outpost 1: A working game is not an option. [02:32:55] lol [02:33:10] lol [02:33:51] Sweet box cover art though, save for the blatant lie-sticker on the right http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/164885-outpost-windows-3-x-front-cover.jpg [02:34:35] There is a way to 'win' the game... [02:34:47] ... but it's clearly unfinished :( [02:35:21] Alas, maybe a successful Survive Mars will mean Outpost 3: This time it works and isn't C&C in space. [02:36:20] I doubt it will be similar... [02:36:39] Action: Scolar_Visari cautiously glances at Aven Colony. [02:36:50] Is it good? [02:37:01] Hence cautious glance, rather than green with envy. [02:37:09] The latter gets me a restraining order. [02:38:26] We finally did get our Dungeon Keeper sequels, so who's to say? [02:39:00] yeah [02:39:13] too many good titles for me to play them all [02:40:40] That's why you need to do what Tom Cruise did in Edge of Tomorrow and have an Alpha bleed on you so you can repeat days and play forever. [02:41:27] I don't want to replay from the tutorial... I want my saves!! [02:41:45] I didn't say it'd be perfect! [02:42:24] The Dungeon Keeper sequel was clearly the result of a monkey's paw. [02:42:58] Eagle Nebula https://snag.gy/0uivWA.jpg [02:43:12] Raptop: Amusingly, there are *two* Dungeon Keeper successor series. [02:44:35] Richard Ridings, the narrator for War of Overworld, was also the narrator for the original Dungeon Keeper games! [02:44:39] I only heard about the one that was online only, and had microtransactions in lieu of strategy, [02:45:24] Aaaaaah http://store.steampowered.com/app/230190/War_for_the_Overworld/ [02:46:20] Raptop: That's funny, too, given that Dungeons came out before the onlien only Dungeon Keeper. [02:46:29] I want an Evil Genius sequel [02:47:17] That's happening. [02:47:24] I know [02:47:30] https://www.polygon.com/2017/7/4/15919674/evil-genius-2-pc-in-production-release-date [02:47:30] no news in 6 month though [02:47:50] Action: Scolar_Visari still has a digital only copy of Evil Genius [02:48:03] ve2dmn: That happens to a lot of, er, lower budget games. [02:48:27] as long as it's good, I can wait [02:48:42] I don't want another DF-9 [02:49:23] I'd settle for a mod friendly Evil Genius 1 to be honest. [02:50:30] This gas giant is hogging up my frame https://snag.gy/SKaesU.jpg [02:53:38] New, up to date size chart! http://www.janichsan.de/ED_Ship_Chart_V3_0.png [02:54:39] Though the hull masses are wrong. The Type 9 lost a lot of mass. [02:56:17] Scolar_Visari: need to add those to the MASSIVE chart with all the ships from all the series [02:57:24] ve2dmn: There is one with Star Citizen https://imgur.com/a/TCXjW [02:57:54] However, a lot of media (particularly games, such as Homeworld) don't have stated ship lengths or obvious human features, making size comparisons quite difficulty. [02:58:39] https://orig00.deviantart.net/494a/f/2014/171/0/1/size_comparison___science_fiction_spaceships_by_dirkloechel-d6lfgdf.jpg [02:58:48] Movies made prior to CGI technology also tended to have ships different in size from shot to shot ala Star Wars. [02:59:05] :3 [02:59:15] To say nothing of mockups not being quite as big on the outside as their interiors would suggest ala the Millenium Falcon and the APC from Aliens. [02:59:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:01:43] Or, in some cases, canon literature would give you dimensions completely inconsistent with that of other media. The Executor-class Star Destroyers from the movies, for instance, was obviously larger than the puny sizes given in early RPG literature. [03:02:51] table top game with 6side dices? [03:04:17] ve2dmn: I just know they never saw the movies . . . [03:04:21] Also: Big tank is big https://i.imgur.com/qftosPg.png [03:10:38] Isn't sure what sort of tank that is, so I'm going to assume a Bolo Mk I. [03:11:27] It's a tank for Star Citizen, hence the full interior. [03:11:56] Now that you remind me, I think I have both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous... [03:12:02] Uh [03:12:28] well... I *backed* Star Citizen [03:12:34] I have questions about how it will be used. [03:12:51] UmbralRaptor: A lot of ground vehicles are already offered. I assume it would be similar to SRV actions in Elite. [03:13:02] Which, by the way, could use more surface vehicles. [03:13:19] https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/opinions/discovery-of-first-stars-and-dark-matter-opinion-lincoln/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29 [03:13:22] Action: Scolar_Visari wants to drop off MBTs in a Federal Gunboat while under fire from a ground installation. [03:13:45] If I'd had real employment when Star Citizen was pitched, I might have thrown embarrassing amounts of money at it. >_>;; [03:14:03] Draconiator: I tried to find the paper for that discovery, but it was behind a paywall. [03:14:23] UmbralRaptor: Would you pilot a Javelin-class destroyer called the Umbral Raptor? [03:14:37] Uh [03:14:57] Is it at all equivalent to the Wing Commander 1 Raptor? [03:14:58] Complete with a mission patch of a shadowy dromeosaur atop its prey. [03:15:29] Scolar_Visari: IIRC, the paper is on arXiv. [03:15:44] UmbralRaptor: Why did you not say so the other day!? [03:15:45] This sounds like an excellent mission patch. [03:15:54] uh [03:15:54] Also: It's one of the more ridiculous ships one can purchase. [03:16:51] wait, I'm misremembering. [03:17:04] Action: UmbralRaptor ðŸ”ª nature [03:17:30] As I thought. None can match my Google Fu. [03:17:48] https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/aegis-javelin/Javelin [03:18:52] I like the thought of a #KSPOfficial capital ship in SC. [03:19:21] Scolar_Visari: The Kerb-your-enthusiasm ? [03:20:42] Too obvious. [03:20:56] The Jebediah B. Kerman. [03:21:23] The B stands for nothing [03:22:01] "But in every Kerbals heart in all the space program shines the name, Jebediah B. Kerman." [03:22:30] Got it to actually match the song, noice! [03:24:39] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to parody the entire Ballad of Rodger Young with Jebediah Kerman blowing himself up (by accident, we think) in the name of the Kerbal Space Program. [04:18:06] "so if japan is over, where are you gonna flee to?" - "china" - "taiwan" - "mars" [04:18:09] found the elon [04:49:15] But the roach people live there. [05:34:26] see you later, space cowboy [05:40:56] Hullo [06:08:55] so what happened to the launch [06:09:23] worked, but no video sadly [06:09:52] mayve unliste on youtube [06:12:21] that flame [06:13:58] looks lot better at night [06:15:33] no landing [06:15:44] probbly older first stage [06:17:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpfrp-GMKKM [06:17:44] YouTube - HISPASAT 30W-6 Mission [08:19:09] Althego: the waves were too large. Like 8m. They didn't even bother sending the boat. [08:23:00] they should have created drestructive interference [08:28:41] Althego: Elon, of house Musk. First of his name, the Payer of Pals, the father of Tesla, the tamer of Dragons, the keeper of Falcons, and the tamer of waves. Long may he reign over the Red Iron Throne, long may his banner fly above the Acidalia Plains. [08:33:28] lol [09:16:12] Hmm. These girls on the train are speaking a language I don't think I've heard before. [09:16:16] That's rare. [09:16:40] Judging by their features, my guess is Mongolian [09:16:49] That and their phones are in Cyrillic [10:09:56] rejoice [10:10:01] my 3d printer arrived [10:10:55] Fluburtur: it's the end of the world as we know it [10:10:59] Action: TheKosmonaut feels fine [10:11:07] yes [10:11:15] with that much power in my hands [10:11:19] the world is doomed [10:12:56] luckily it is a small 3d printer, so you can create only small weapons and bombs [10:13:33] I can make bigger ones in multiple parts [10:18:20] https://78.media.tumblr.com/72ac87794a8ed1dc2c05676f2ef43a2e/tumblr_o2q5sv1LYZ1s56ehxo1_540.jpg [10:21:01] well then Fluburtur print me one [10:21:05] :P [10:21:25] k [10:22:03] I can take care of the non printable parts [10:22:24] where can I find plastic with radium inside? [10:22:27] I want glow in the dark [10:22:39] no you want to kill me, admit it [10:22:56] no [10:23:02] just don't lick it [10:23:49] radium filament (keep away from small children and near-critical plutonium cores, non recyclable) [10:25:36] I just opened the package of my printer [10:25:41] it smells good [10:30:13] yo all, i need help [11:29:03] Guest98814: you need help learning how to ask for it [11:42:20] too late :| [12:27:02] uh it isn't too hard to assemble that printer [12:34:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:58:39] radium filament (keep away from small children and near-critical plutonium cores, non recyclable) <-- that sounds close to some item descriptions in KSP :p [12:59:59] Eddi|zuHause, funnily enough the few part descriptions I made were all pretty cringeworthy in hindsight [13:00:13] also, i have too many factions in stellaris, can't keep them all happy [13:00:30] what does 'glassyuri' mean? [13:00:33] although i did manage to get both the authoritarian and the egalitarian faction happy, not sure how that works [13:00:35] damn hinds, they see everything [13:00:38] it sounds like a name that means something [13:00:52] Eddi|zuHause: congrats [13:00:56] Arcan, half of my previous username and half of my first name transliterated to japanese and back [13:01:34] i'm guessing "yuri" is the half of your previous username (i've seen it elsewhere, just don't know what it means) [13:01:56] my name doesn't mean anything but its nice and short ^.^ [13:02:08] no, yuri is from yuriusu (julius) [13:02:20] it does however have a few other meanings [13:02:26] ever heard of Juri Gagarin? [13:02:28] oak [13:02:57] i wanted to stay up last night to see the spacex launch but couldn't [13:02:59] was it good~ [13:05:23] why is there only one 'hindsight' helicopter meme on the entire internet [13:05:59] and that one contains the f-word which may be appropriate when encountering Mi-24s but not in here [13:10:01] Arcan, I have an even better username on twitter but it doesn't really translate [13:13:22] in berlin there was an accident where a bus collided with a helicopter (no injuries) [13:14:17] how does that happen [13:14:36] Eddi|zuHause, just when you thought 'weil wir dich lieben' publicity stunts couldn't get any weirder... [13:15:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:16:36] in the US, state of Wyoming, pickup doing 55+ hits Moose. Truck totally destroyed, driver and moose uninjured. Driver was NOT wearing seatbelt. [13:19:06] >moose uninjured [13:19:22] 13how [13:19:51] No idea. Supposedly there is video of it [13:21:34] I can't find the video [13:23:45] what's 55 in real units? [13:24:10] 50 MPH [13:24:13] 80 KPH [13:24:16] 55 MPH [13:24:18] 88 KPH [13:24:23] Eddi|zuHause: see above [13:25:02] so lets round that to 90 [13:25:21] 55 MPH is almost exactly 88 KPH [13:26:11] i can believe the part about the driver (since the same thing happened to me, just involving another car instead of a moose) [13:26:15] uhm yeah, but you can't really assume the original data is that exact [13:27:41] also, if the speed limit says 100 here, most people go 120 [13:28:05] Eddi|zuHause, that's because the majority of germans are above average drivers [13:28:48] no, that's because at 21 above police will send you overpriced pictures [13:28:53] GlassYuri: if the speed limit says 60 here, most people go 70 [13:29:30] and i've seen people somehow maintaining 160kph weaving through 110kph traffic [13:30:27] there isn [13:30:38] 't really much "weaving" you can do [13:30:50] faster car must always pass on the left [13:31:30] ... not that there's a rule that never gets broken, but you're usually viewed as an idiot if you do that [13:31:54] there's no law against passing on the right [13:31:57] in the US [13:32:10] it is unsafe to weave through traffic like some people do [13:32:12] but they do it [13:32:53] that's why german autobahn is much safer than american, despite the speed limit difference [13:33:21] keep in mind also that this is florida so a lot of drivers are tourists [13:38:22] It's interesting to note the convention of MPH vs km/h :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilometres_per_hour#/media/File:Ford_Mondeo_MK3_ST220_-_Speedometer.jpg [13:39:11] Glass|phone: I revived a Mercedes-Benz 450SL today. [13:39:56] TheKosmonaut, is it bad that I had to google what that is [13:39:58] Considering it was 100% dead, it running even with that terrible sound is a feat. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4JjfA0aG/IMG_1339.MP4 [13:40:10] GlassYuri: the Germans will delete your citizenship [13:40:25] Today was a real Mercedes day. [13:40:26] TheKosmonaut: is that a car? [13:40:59] ve2dmn: it is a horseless carriage! [13:41:04] An automobile [13:41:12] A boom-wagon [13:41:16] AKA das auto [13:41:47] it just that it sounds more like a post-war tank [13:42:48] Das auto is vw. M-B is DAS BESTE ODER NICHTS [13:43:16] I have a smart car [13:43:34] An old model that I got for super cheap [13:43:47] ve2dmn: yeah. The knocking sound is no good. But considering it had been sitting in the woods for years I'd say even with the knocky rasps of death it is a feat [13:44:17] TheKosmonaut, well I played densha de go (arcade train driving sim) for the first time https://imgur.com/tXFf8DU [13:44:17] https://i.imgur.com/tXFf8DU.jpg [13:44:49] GlassYuri: 9cm? You are fired! [13:44:55] 9mm [13:45:03] Still fired! [13:45:20] Unacceptable in Japanese train standards [13:45:22] ve2dmn, I think the real yamanote line is +-.5m [13:45:34] Did you do the hand gestures pointing at the platform as you stopped [13:46:04] GlassYuri: a few weeks ago I had the keisei line just miss a station [13:46:13] I mean... Swoosh right through it [13:46:21] GlassYuri: I'm just kinding. Our metro is like +/-1m and they don't even reports delays under 8min [13:46:30] they stole that idea from Wolfsburg? :p [13:46:41] TheKosmonaut, I had the marunouchi stop halway into a station once [13:46:44] The brakes got slammed. The PA came on and he said HGGG [13:46:53] HE REVERSED [13:46:57] then stopped again. [13:47:10] Then the automated voice said the next station name [13:47:18] And we just went onward [13:47:22] lol [13:47:36] TheKosmonaut: lack of sleep? [13:47:37] well, they didn't bother stopping and going back in Wolfsburg :p [13:47:56] ve2dmn: I guess he thought he was the Express train and not the local [13:48:10] lack of sleep [13:48:24] TheKosmonaut, it's kind of interesting (even if completely logical) that they reverse back into the missed stop [13:48:25] well, I'm already 30min late for work... later [13:48:48] GlassYuri: thing is, we didn't even reverse all the way [13:49:14] in germany you'd need an explicit verbal order before going against your intended direction of movement [13:49:21] i imagine it's not trival to reverse a train, with the signalling and stuff [13:49:24] He gave up halfway and I could hear their control center just yelling at him to forget the station and move on because a skyliner was on its way [13:50:43] Eddi|zuHause, there are procedures in place for dealing with ever possible mishap quickly and efficiently on japanese urban railways [13:52:13] with a railway system i'd imagine it's better to just shrug it off as "well, we'll stop at the next station and tell the passengers to go back [13:52:16] " [13:52:51] TheKosmonaut, I don't know about keisei but on the chuuou rapid you can see that they have signs like "the special rapid stops at all stations until x" or "confirm if you are rapid or special rapid" and such [13:52:52] instead of causing a ripple of delays to the network that take a whole day to clear [13:54:06] Eddi|zuHause, delays actually lasting a whole day is rare [13:54:17] usually even long delays clear within a few h [13:54:50] well, i was slightly exaggerating [13:56:39] what I hate the most is if you are on the train before the delayed one and get ordered to stop to adjust the interval [13:57:28] GlassYuri: I always love the shinkansen delay notices [13:57:36] My favorite is "Bear Collision" [13:57:46] Or any animal collision [13:57:52] But bear was the best [13:58:09] I remember being on a train before one that hit a deer a few months ago [13:58:22] remember, the train in question was behind me [13:58:52] I still got stuck for a damn hour at some nowhere station which had an unheated waiting room [13:59:24] better than "Personenschaden"... [13:59:32] TheKosmonaut, I like the poorly translated ones in the yamanote [13:59:44] "car escape circle" and such [13:59:58] GlassYuri: this is why i habitually overdress [14:00:29] Eddi|zuHause, oh, we do have our fair share of º«‹E [14:00:54] never experienced any myself so far, thankfully [14:01:40] though I think I had two moments where I got close to being on the train involved [14:03:36] Arcan, it actually was an interchange station to another operator, but then I would have had to pay two pretty expensive fares instead of taking a massive loop around the entire kanto area and getting off one station from where I started [14:03:48] that's allowed btw, don't ask why [14:08:34] HAILLO!! [14:08:50] Anyone here? [14:09:02] y [14:09:20]