[00:12:42] I solved the bounce problem [00:12:55] now I have to solve the problem of wing breaking off planes on load [00:13:04] the airliner ones [00:14:02] "Solved the problem with the plane bouncing, it turns out the ground is rather hard." "Wing breaks off at speed, suggested solution is "Don't do that."" [00:14:36] no [00:14:46] I mean when the plane loads in while lnaded, the wings fly off [00:14:57] but I think it's a problem specific to the airliner ones [00:14:59] which sucks [00:15:11] More struts? More struts. [00:15:14] eh [00:15:20] I ragequit ksp at this point [00:15:23] maybe tomorrow [00:15:30] It's probably a problem with large objects and unity physics :/ [00:15:41] I guess [00:25:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:36:07] http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2700 [00:43:15] A pile of coasters on a table has to be a contender for worst secret door lever I've ever seen [00:59:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:32:36] Fluburtur: It happens to *all* my planes, they leap into the air if they load while landed. [01:45:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:47:44] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [01:47:44] also interesting [01:47:50] exFAT > NTFS [01:49:03] http://usbflashspeed.com/274311 http://usbflashspeed.com/274320 [01:49:15] yeah i am going to roll with exFAT nowadays [01:54:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:04:16] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [03:04:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:51:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:53:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:54:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:05:05] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigpepRH0i0 [04:05:05] YouTube - THE FIVE WORST FIGHTER AIRCRAFT OF ALL TIME || WARTHOG 2017 [04:07:11] On my phone, what are they? [04:15:32] Action: QuantumRaptor guesses the F7U is one of them. [05:09:17] Man, I havent launched anything in 4 months. I wonder if my mods still work. [05:29:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:41:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:29:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:53:09] Last message repeated 4 time(s). [07:53:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:36:41] https://78.media.tumblr.com/775ec42b70d9fb308b31fa0741ebae56/tumblr_mzeuhqbgLg1qfthy3o1_540.jpg [11:46:32] https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9102688256/h6F31964E/ [12:16:42] merry xmas http://www.lab-initio.com/screen_res/nz229.jpg [12:44:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388309712602660864/DSC_8071.JPG [12:48:16] PAL... that's old. :D [12:48:38] good old game from 2000 [12:48:49] haha, games after 2000 ar enew to me [13:01:36] bwoop [13:02:20] bwm bwm (onager artillery cruiser firing) [13:03:25] so i made a jet out of the big rocket tanks hehe [13:03:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388314622920359936/DSC_8073.JPG [13:04:01] the left joystick of my ps1 controller is a bit bad I have to fix that [13:05:21] i threw my old gamecube controller so hard the one joystick popped out [13:05:58] i was having a bad day heh [13:06:16] well this one doesn't even have the real things on it [13:06:26] it's a disposable razor handle [13:09:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388315978628333568/DSC_8074.JPG [13:09:28] i have a manual trimmer from the 1940's, no electric required [13:31:05] how to you clean the stick of a ps1 controller? [13:40:24] with lots and lots of alcohole [14:13:07] mmmm vanilla cherry greek yogurt x-x [14:14:05] let the h wars begin. yoghurt :) [14:14:06] so i have a big drone... how to put passenger capacity.. any ideas? :D [14:14:42] the usual way. make a big ugly plane [14:14:50] ugly? :( [14:15:16] i have a plane that flies already, but it's literally all fuel tank & control surfaces (and wing) [14:17:23] and its not ugly ;| [14:21:01] ok, i thinkusing the big fuel tanks as a fuselage isnt good, they have a very high dry weight, and carry far more fuel than needed [14:21:57] "tough little ship" "little?" [14:22:01] the mk3 rocket tank is similar, very heavy dry weight [14:22:22] prepare for ramming speed! [14:23:20] https://gfycat.com/RepulsiveShadyAardvark [14:23:38] worf, jordi & data are my favorites [14:24:05] the prepare for ramming speed is from last starfighter [14:24:15] the feels when data goes to the damaged section on the enterpeise E [14:24:56] perhaps today is a good day to die prepar for ramming speed, sir another ship has entered the fight, its the enterprise -they all get that hopeful look- [14:26:42] well, the game doesn't want to save progress on the memory card [14:26:55] a whoopin 1 megabytes card [14:27:55] oneof the reasons that galactic peace will eventually be the norm in the star trek universe is because humans can defeat the borg, and there are reasonable folks from pretty much all the non-federation alliances [14:31:25] i have one problem with this. defeating the borg is eradicatingthem [14:31:34] so, total destruction of a species [14:31:40] or rather population [14:31:50] Yeah. The federation have had opportunities to defeat the Borg multiple times [14:31:55] ok, they are harmful for the other people [14:32:17] "hugh" [14:34:13] where are the ducks? [14:35:12] on the water [14:42:45] borg just wanted to make more friends, too [14:44:43] the Blorg too [14:45:22] the habsborg and the bourbots :) [14:54:37] blorg are good [14:55:28] i never understood why they thought in the 80s that connecting people would make them lose individuality [14:55:34] we are the borg already [14:55:41] million voices over the internet [14:55:47] and they are louder than ever [15:01:52] Althego: people are afraid of '1984', but 'Brave new world' will happen willingly [15:04:19] I'm more afraid of 1997 [15:06:46] we are going towards it [15:06:53] especially usa [15:06:57] but that is politics [15:08:57] https://i.redditmedia.com/Os41BbqegOfF3pidhi2WthphLgnd0VJLRoorLJ8T_-8.jpg?w=700&s=33a0fd17841debb0395ad350bd12bac9 [15:09:14] https://mahou.moe/board/pic/3ea53d012c7e70eb48fe45608dfc7f15.jpg [15:14:47] the biggest SRB likes to slam back into the seperating craft doesn't it? [15:14:52] Althego: it's a christmas Meow-racle! [15:14:53] yes [15:15:07] someone say meow? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bwul0__KfA [15:15:08] YouTube - Valar Meowghulis - All Men Must Meow (Game of Meows) [15:15:17] No, not the meows [15:15:20] FltAdmVonSpiz: no, if you put the decoupler above the center of mass [15:15:39] hehehe [15:16:04] the kickback needs a sepratron to really get clear of your core stage, otherwise it can flip around and hit it with the aft end as well [15:16:20] Althego: well, the Borg stood for efficency in communication. The internet today is just a mess [15:16:23] how would I mount and trigger that? [15:16:29] wont the rocket exhaust mess up the core stage [15:16:31] lots and lots of people screaming around and nothing gets done. [15:16:40] no, i mean [15:16:42] put it on the top, and stage it with the decoupler [15:16:48] you attach the thing [15:17:00] you dont even need a pair, just one, near the top [15:17:00] you probably cant move it above center of mass [15:17:05] take the offset tool [15:17:08] and that is it [15:17:22] so if the decoupler pushes at the top [15:17:28] it is goung to rotate outward [15:17:49] it can rotate the aft into the craft, tho [15:18:05] no, because the center stage is thrusting [15:18:24] other methods include tiny sepratorns on top [15:18:37] depends on the thickness of the atmosphere when you let it go [15:18:53] the drag can push it back into the craft [15:18:57] or control surfaces at the bottom, which is good because solids are not vectoring [15:19:04] and the drag also rotates them outward [15:19:40] btw the exaact last starfighter quote goes like this: forget the guns, ramming speed! [15:19:50] ehhh i dunno man, ive used them a ton, and one sepratron on the top is the best way to get distance so there's no fouling the main craft [15:20:21] it also rotates the srb, ensuring the drag cannot flip it back intothe craft [15:20:30] kinda like a sort of riffling [15:20:35] i hide them inside the nose part on top, that waz it looks better [15:20:39] haha [15:21:12] youve seen the stuff i build, if i dont get the jettisoned bits away properly the whole thing can explode [15:21:31] I tried turning off SAS and spinning up in the last few seconds before booster release [15:21:39] but that just makes me lose control because SAS is the only thing keeping the damn thing stable [15:21:50] the eve suubmarine mission had the problem with decoupling the boosters when i wanted to record it [15:22:03] apparently i took a bit shallower ascent and that caused it [15:22:26] before, during the testing, everything worked fine [15:22:30] FltAdmVonSpiz: screenshot? [15:22:50] Il go run the launch again if you want [15:22:55] just remember, drag wants to pull the forward traveling end to the side [15:23:04] but right now I am putting the box girder parts as spacers [15:23:18] also you can use the wider decouplers [15:23:24] i usually use those [15:23:26] I only have two unlocked [15:23:30] gives more psace [15:23:30] and neither are the ones with the standoff legs [15:23:34] I just want to understand your design because I'm curious what is happening [15:23:35] ahhh [15:23:38] why is the original stock decoupler the high level one [15:23:45] then put all the solids below ina cluster [15:23:53] Twin Boar with six kickbacks around the outside [15:24:20] do you have the sepratrons available? [15:24:24] I think so [15:24:40] I have six BACCs around the outside of the kickbacks that drop off early, just to get the thing moving off the pad [15:24:47] all twelve boosters light on the pad [15:25:17] to save on cost, just one at the tip on the left or right side should do the trick, but if yu can afford it, a pair at both ends on the sides will really push them out and away [15:25:27] the exhaust wont damage the craft? [15:25:32] no [15:27:25] the other non-propellant option is to give them fixed fins that pull them away, the down side is that it does add a bit of drag, and the higher you decouple, the less effective the fins will be [15:28:57] for example, on the left and right side using the snap tool, you'd angle them so the leading edge was facing away from the body of the craft at the top and at the bottom [15:29:49] using that method, the one big advantage is that you can decouple them while they are still firing, so unless you have something directly above they will break off cleanly [15:30:16] plus it looks cool :D [15:30:42] hay glass [15:31:35] glass again :D [15:33:30] o.o [15:52:08] so, any luck? [16:04:36] huh, interesting [16:06:29] used an srb and the mk1 capsule to fly a mission, works pretty well [16:06:48] just gotta not stay in the atmosphere too long or the parachute burns up [16:14:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/388359129971949568/20171207164509_1.jpg [16:17:03] neat prop design ;) [16:17:41] had to land without any tail control [16:17:46] heh [16:18:17] I did it then went back to combat and got shot down immediatly [16:18:19] worth it [16:22:16] i gotta finish building my guardian farm on the multiplayer server before 1.13 comes out and ruins it [16:24:12] just gotta add some final touches and the mk2 bases line of airliners will be completed [16:24:23] well, the first base series anyway [16:24:43] going to do 3-4 of each type [16:25:19] so we have the small ones done, working on the medium mk2 based ones now, and then the mk3 based ones next [16:38:02] Infalling galaxies http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-releases/galaxy_orbits/ [16:55:54] QuantumRaptor: the COM seems to be a bit off center [17:02:00] uh [17:06:06] is it because of the great attractor? [17:09:55] No sure. [17:45:14] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Please remember to shut all windows and airlocks before we reach orbit! [17:45:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:46:42] And in today's, "news": NextBigFuture can't tell the difference between nuclear reactors and RTGs https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/12/nuclear-powered-drones-are-technically-feasible-and-could-fly-for-years.html [17:48:19] From the article: "An unclassified study indicated that the nuclear powered drone could be built and would provide great performance. The only reason for not building it was because of the political problems it would cause." [17:49:15] Yes, because having a thin-walled nuclear reactor crash into nation's backyard is merely a political problem. [17:50:00] I can think of problems even without a crash. [17:50:10] Action: QuantumRaptor stares at skyshine. [17:50:17] we have bigger problems than how to power a uav [17:50:40] QuantumRaptor: I'm of the mind that, "great performance" is an exaggeration. [17:51:01] "Well, it can carry ONE Hellfire missile practically forever!" [17:51:06] yeah what's wrong with our current drone power sources? [17:51:20] Scolar_Visari: I still want nuclear reactors for exploring the gas/ice giants. [17:51:48] Also, Hah! [17:51:59] speaking of great performance, why is elon musk trying to remove rail transport? [17:52:02] Entertainingly, the article even states that, "Using nuclear power would enable the Reaper not only to remain airborne for far longer, but to carry more missiles or surveillance equipment." [17:52:16] more missiles, yay [17:52:38] Last I checked, there are no practical nuclear reactors that one could put on a MQ-9. [17:52:51] You might want something just a liiiiittle big bigger. [17:53:07] wait, he's *removing* rail transport? [17:53:21] I thought he was just building an alternate rail transport that'll probably be totally useless to everyone [17:53:23] If the goal is to have a recon platform up for weeks, I'd suggest solar. Seriously. [17:53:38] Of course, by the time one paid the R&D for a limit production run of nuclear powered drones, you could've just invented an unmanned refueling craft . . . [17:53:44] (NASA demonstrated craft flying overnight back in the 90s) [17:53:48] smallest nuclear reactor i know of was originally designed back in the day of "hey, lets have nuclear powered everything!" meant to fit inside a locomotive or large aircraft [17:54:11] QuantumRaptor: Virtually anything would be more reasonable cost wise. [17:54:24] There was very recently a new tiny nuclear thing designed and tested, honestly don't recall if it was rtg or reactor [17:54:45] Big UAVs are already hideously expensive as it is. [17:55:14] i know where one facility is that controls some of the usaf drones [17:55:32] former naval air base [17:55:58] QuantumRaptor: The article also seems to think NASA's proposed RTG Titan quadcopter is also toting an impossibly small nuclear reactor. [17:56:34] blarg [17:56:55] just what we need, chunks of radioactive materials flying all over [17:56:55] More amusing given some concepts how the power source attached to a seperate lander in which the RC copter docks to and recharges at. [17:57:25] Namely: https://www.nasa.gov/content/titan-aerial-daughtercraft [17:59:08] Then again, perhaps I should not be expecting something from a website that looks like it was developed back in 2000? [18:00:37] https://beyondnerva.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/krusty-first-of-a-new-breed-of-reactors-kilopower-part-ii/ [18:00:57] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders why every single web developer seems to have confused, "mobile device compatibility" with, "let's just backdate to our 90's version of the site!" [18:01:34] Not true. They'd be way faster to load. [18:02:11] Indeed. At least video advertisements weren't a thing back then, we just had crappy flash videos. [18:05:09] I long for the day when Yahoo had a sensible news site design that was not overrun with upvoting bots! [18:08:53] NASA's old site design was superb too. [18:09:41] And . . . X Rebirth is free to play this weekend? [18:16:09] I'M FIRIN MAH LAZER! https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1712/HH666_HubblePestana_2495.jpg [18:18:56] And Mars may have taken a steam bath https://phys.org/news/2017-12-clay-minerals-mars-primordial-steam.html [18:22:11] There's a mod out there that will add MechJeb and KER to all rockets, so you don't need to slap the little MechJeb thingee on each rocket. The RPM interface for MechJeb doesn't seem to recognize it unless the actual part is in place. Any ideas why? [18:23:32] Dunno, I never had problems doing that. [18:26:04] Also I hate that I have to set autostage to true in the utilities for every stinking vessel [18:35:48] someone in a discord server is saying that a kulbit is just a super tight loop [18:35:51] but just no [18:36:04] the trajectory of the aircraft doesn't for a loop but a wave at most [18:37:18] Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulbit [18:37:35] no [18:37:38] that's a kulbit https://i2.wp.com/su-27flanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/retournement-mig29.gif?resize=726%2C197 [18:38:11] the aircraft always goes in the same direction but just does a full 360 around its axis [18:38:32] well, it does mean 'Somersault' in russian [18:38:47] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALt3m3Kkhw [18:38:47] YouTube - su-37 performing a kulbit [18:38:48] Fluburtur: Wait . . . I've done that in Elite! [18:39:16] It is rather easy when there's no air. [18:43:26] what... what's the point of that maneuver [18:43:39] tawny: aerobatics [18:44:15] ah [18:44:15] fair enough [18:44:25] if it had a point other than showing off it would be to lose a lot of speed to make the enemy go in front of you [18:44:36] only useful in dogfight [18:45:03] dogfight: only in the past and in movies [18:45:49] yeah but russian fighters are cool anyways [18:45:57] you have to show good stuff at airshows [18:55:28] Fluburtur: Useful in a dogfight in the early-mid 20th Century. [18:56:40] Or space dogfights. [18:58:06] pay no attention to those lasers with effective ranges of e1e7 m. [19:27:34] the rarest photo of me https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byr1cNifke0zN0dxZXdoWTJUb0E/view?usp=sharing [19:29:15] QuantumRaptor: I just stick with tachyon lances. They erase foes before they exist! [19:29:46] <_< [19:46:24] Though I suppose range is never an issue in Elite Dangerous, as combat tends to take place within 2 kilometers. [19:46:42] Throwing cargo out the airlock should totally be a tactic. [19:56:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:00:06] Is it that time of year again for Pearl Harbor conspiracies? [20:01:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:02:14] You mean that the US had early warning that Japan was going to try something and was confident that it would be a small scale attack with limited damage and would get the US into the war that the rest of the world was losing and was the lesser of two evils, the alternative being the ultimate destruction of the USA? [20:06:43] I'm not sure there was any real chance of, "utlimate destruction of the USA" outside parallel universes where the Nazis have time travelers with weapons from the 32nd Century, ditto with an Axis victory. [20:07:13] Action: Scolar_Visari glares at the enormous materiel disparity. [20:12:02] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:12:38] Well it would end up the entire world vs the USA. [20:12:49] And I think that's a bit of an uphill fight for the USA. [20:16:25] Blaank: Why would it be the USA alone? The Reich was never, ever, ever, ever, even remotely close to getting rid of the USSR or Britain. [20:16:45] Britain has the support of 'The Empire' [20:16:51] had* [20:17:09] ve2dmn: There was also that early war switch to convoys and ASW patrols. [20:17:50] The BdU, by Donitz' own admission, went to war with around less than an order of a magnitude than what he thought was needed for a victory in the Atlantic, and was probably being optimistic. [20:21:20] BTW, conspiracies never die, because that's what they WANT you to think [20:21:35] :D [20:21:37] Knocking out the Union, on the other hand, would have required a horrendous increase in the already large number of casualties on the Eastern Front. [20:22:11] I'm also certain the Red Army would've gleefully burned down every oil derrick prior to their Axis capture. [20:22:48] Invading Russia in winter is never a good idea. Unless you are the Mongols [20:24:19] The issue wasn't invading in the winter. The issue was invading Russia and assuming you'll be done before winter. [20:24:52] The Mongol invaded Moscow from the east. In Winter. And won. [20:25:08] Winter gear was lacking, and supply lines were hampered by the time it took to convert Russian rail gauges over to German guages [20:25:30] ve2dmn: No one expects the Mongolian Inquisition! [20:25:50] Also: Horse drawn carriages aren't a good substitute for rail. [20:26:00] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0506/0633/products/mongols-2_large.jpg?v=1412975005 [20:27:01] It's a running gag in Crash Course World History. The mongols are always an exception to the rule. [20:27:29] It helped that they, unlike the Heer, had around four horses per person! [20:27:34] russia also did not learn the lesson of invading in winter [20:28:13] Neal: In their defense, winter *is* campaigning seasons in less hostile climates. [20:28:38] Action: Neal doesn't think finland is a good place to invade in winter [20:28:39] Yeah. What else is there to do? [20:30:21] invade in summer and build a car [20:30:59] but summer is 'making food for winter' time [20:32:48] sandbox: we have games for simulating summer and building cars in Finland now! [20:32:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:33:01] yup [20:33:09] Supernovy used NICKSERV KILL . . . It was super effective! [20:33:53] supernovy used suicide =( [20:34:02] it was not the only option [20:34:11] I miss my old Nokia N95 [20:34:48] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders an alternate reality where World War II is over sooner. [20:34:58] To contrast with all other alt-histories. [20:36:08] What... like the plot to kill leaders X,Y and Z works out and the remaining general just do a real bad job? [20:37:25] what if hirohito, churchill, hitler, and roosevelt were all simultanously assassinated because each respective side's teams took too long to get to the target [20:38:09] That still leaves Stalin in charge [20:38:27] oh no [20:38:30] this is the worst idea [20:38:49] C&C: Red Alert? Or World-in-Conflict? [20:39:09] ve2dmn: Stalin dies early from a drunken celebration party. [20:39:19] Also: Kane poisons him. [20:39:51] Silly Question: I got a "Save ... from the Orbit of ..." Mission - So I reached the stranded vessel and it is a deflated Casa IHM from the Pathfinder Mod ... and if I switch to it no Kerbal is present ... [20:41:21] I assume there is no 'in-gane' solution to solve this mission ... [20:41:53] does it says the Kerbal is dead? [20:42:05] it shows no crew [20:42:11] when I switch to the vessel [20:42:12] what does the contract says? [20:42:53] hmm it shows a 'okay' behind "save ..." [20:43:02] What if you inflate the thing, save the game and re-load? [20:43:53] hmm I'll revert for now and try a simple retrieval with the clamp [20:44:06] maybe that works [20:44:08] Action: Scolar_Visari also ponders time traveling to assist the Allies, because Nazis seem to have a monopoly on that. [21:09:36] be excellent to each other [21:13:27] and party on dudes [21:15:38] sandbox [21:16:05] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to ponder why Ezo forces thought walking into Visari's gauntlet of garish gatling guns was a good go. [21:16:32] STOP minecraft time -dances- [21:27:22] transitbiker: stop. You make me want to play Minecraft again. I have a backlog of 1057543585734569579 games to finish first [21:29:58] hee [21:30:05] i am making glass from sand [21:37:57] transitbiker: I was pretty good at making Nether portal links [21:38:47] nice [21:39:14] my forte is making rail lines [21:39:36] I usually don't have enough iron for thoses [21:40:24] well it was a mix of smelting iron and raiding mineshafts [21:41:21] on the ksp server i had a lil foundry [21:42:19] I get too easily distracted [21:43:10] on youtube i watch the hermitcraft folks, mostly mumbo jumbo & xuma [21:43:32] I've only ever watched X [21:43:39] and Sethbling [21:46:17] but before I go back to Minecraft, I need to finish my game of Stellaris, my game of KSP, I am Setuna on my Switch,... [21:46:23] and countless others