[05:10:56] y'all I just found this old ass video where I tried to replicate the Curiosity landing. I had way too much fun on this one :D https://youtu.be/U-anDhGapVo [05:10:56] YouTube - Kerbalosity Landing on Duna [07:53:25] https://i.imgur.com/tpt6Jbh.gifv [07:54:13] whee [08:08:06] Sheeps in space! [08:12:00] Action: UmbralRaptop repeatedly clicks on the sheep until they explode. [08:16:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:20:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:37:24] UmbralRaptop: please don't click the sheeps [09:42:58] Sheep: holy flipping batman, I can fly! [10:00:48] I have received my tiny ceramic bearings [10:00:53] what do now [10:04:52] traveling back in time two years and build a spinner? [10:14:45] lel [10:14:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:14:59] I wanted to build a handheld air raid alarm [10:15:12] would justify building a gearbox with bearngs [10:29:30] 3d print it [10:29:44] yeah that's the plan [10:34:00] the ethernet cable plugged into my computer is really crap [10:37:12] cool [10:37:21] im not too ure what my plans is lol [14:02:54] i have several dozen spare ethernet cables [14:10:17] im a little afraid the vg33 will have too much torque causing it to flip when I throw it [14:10:22] because it has a fairly large propeller [14:11:36] Flub2: then don't start with full power [14:11:47] also you could add a gear and start it from a street [14:11:52] how does one make an SSTO space plane capable of landing on Mun [14:11:56] yeah I could [14:12:16] but there isn't any road here suited for taking off that is close enough to a field [14:12:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzjRB-RaB9w \o/ [14:12:48] Wintergatan! [14:12:54] wooo [14:13:14] I do need to design proper gears for the vg33 [14:13:20] for the production models [14:13:42] i had 300 ox left at 0 lf, added another 1000 lf and i'm still 300 ox left at 0 lf :D [14:14:49] how does one make an SSTO space plane capable of landing on Mun [14:15:01] when in doubt, go 4x rapier clusters + 1 rhino on mk3 [14:15:10] hahaha [14:15:11] it would clip very slightly, but work [14:15:22] i mean, it is truly dumbproof [14:15:41] rhino is super amazing for large spaceplanes [14:15:59] twr makes life a billion times easier when you can just thrust to orbit from 5-10 degrees up [14:16:10] aye [14:16:28] moon landing could be somewhat complicated, though [14:16:40] ok i admit, my design isn't a ground up /space/ plane. it's a blackbird with more engines [14:18:25] it's just weird how doing a mun rocket is basically just slapping stuff together and calling it a day [14:19:23] but trying to do it one stagea and getting near-free 1400m/s from jets is suddenly so much more mass that you need ludicrous amounts of fuel [14:33:20] also the plane has air intakes but no exhaust [14:33:35] guess the air will have to come out in the gap behind the elevator [14:40:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:13:12] lol the marbles [15:21:18] lol hammering with both hands [17:12:57] i'm fairly certain he's lost all his marbles by this point [17:23:09] Mat2ch I should be able to fly the plane tomorrow [17:23:26] surprising that people know what i am talking about [17:28:53] why is that surprising? someone even linked the video earlier [17:35:35] it was skinny. could get into places http://www.warpology.com/k/skinny.mp4 [17:55:32] Althego: you should attach a small probe core with a reaction wheel to control the wing [17:55:46] that would make it more complicated [17:55:51] just one part [17:55:54] and not really operational if outside of range [17:56:25] add a seat, too? ;) [17:57:05] this would fit in a cargo bay [17:57:06] I wonder if it possible to use docking ports as bearing. I know that you can couple trailers with them... [17:57:35] how? i can imagine it as a linear bearing only [17:58:39] but this one has issues, the wing is not as stable and the maximum speed is lower [17:59:20] mhm [18:06:40] Althego Hmm... wonder if you knew https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/NASA_AD-1_in_flight.jpg/400px-NASA_AD-1_in_flight.jpg [18:06:49] yes [18:07:03] but this wouldnt be stable in the air [18:07:04] I remember this thing since I was little... books.. [18:07:07] if i tried to rotate it [18:07:40] well you'd probably have to redo the wing so it was more symetrical [18:08:54] ponder... [18:09:11] take my dragonfly plane... do something with pivoting wings [18:09:46] wing parts closed, its regular wing shape... opens up to make something like an 'X'... [18:11:04] speaking of swept wings.. lol.. the comment on this one: https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/grumman-f-14a-tomcat-no-problemo/ [18:13:11] hehe, it is waving [18:13:39] this is ksp, so technically i could split the wing to a bunch of tiny surfaces, and stick that around the body [18:13:48] it wouldnt need to move and still could fit anywhere [18:15:40] with mine.. I'd likely install IR... [18:16:06] I know joints aren't strong, but I wouldn't be using big wings to begin with [18:18:30] huh.. 3 miniguns makes a gunship (IE Spooky) Trouble was, couldn't make miniguns fast enough to fill orders.. now.. AC-130.. enough said.. [18:18:56] Spooky plane from back in the wars... meant to add.. [18:36:44] Speaking of airplanes: https://imgur.com/gallery/HUExUO5 (title is important for context) [19:01:25] "no crash damage" and "unbreakable joints" are lies! [19:31:50] I found a pic of the sound system we had in the prop making school https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5o6Ua0BeJXYb2xRU2xSMU5RbFk/view?usp=sharing [19:51:00] the rotating wing is now stable, and i added self deploy like in the previous version, with sepratron [19:52:05] now i just need to figure out how to do a) cargo bay rollout (the wheels in the back may be a bit high) b) in air deployment [19:52:16] the second one is the cooler, therefore better [19:52:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/476837482013392914/DSC_8417.JPG [19:52:40] Flub2: I have an even older stereo here [19:52:43] i have seen a ksp video that did that, but with a smaller plane [19:52:57] even older than the cat? :) [19:53:08] Althego: just drop it out of the bay ;) [19:53:40] either from a mid plane bay or with a chute [19:54:07] hmm [19:54:12] that is actually kind of good [19:54:17] i didnt think of that [19:54:23] also you could add a retractable gear and put some gear on the inside of the bay to slide it out [19:54:31] with the gears retracted there should be no problem [19:55:10] the problem is that the hinge/bearing is not very strong, it dislocates under high forces [19:55:33] small chute [19:55:35] but now that it is hidden in the center i could add some other things instead of the thermometers [19:55:44] also you can add struts [19:56:00] they'll get cut when you decouple [19:56:04] to what? you cant strut two crafts [19:56:20] in the bay? i usually do that [19:56:38] to strut the wing to the plane [19:56:43] maybe now it is not needed, but in older version the bay didnt hold the contents fixed [19:57:01] not the cargo plane [19:57:06] it is already strutted with autostruts, works ok [19:57:18] the problem is that when it rotates it is only coupled in the iunge [19:57:26] hinge [19:57:32] and that can dislocate [20:00:18] is 2k dV enough for a Mun landing? [20:00:33] from where? [20:00:34] gotta get back too :P [20:00:46] oh, sorry: lko [20:01:24] say 900 to mun, 300 to slow down, 900 to land... or do i remember this incorrectly? [20:01:46] https://imgur.com/gBoLsSt [20:01:47] https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png [20:01:47] so technically it is barely enough for landing [20:02:07] should be enough [20:02:14] aye [20:02:18] ah yes the 3rd one is only 600 [20:02:21] so enough to land [20:02:26] not to get back to orbit even [20:02:26] "should be" with my flying skills we'll see [20:02:32] :D [20:03:01] i remembered the circularize and land as 900 together, so basically 2x 900 [20:03:10] 3x 900 should get you back [20:03:20] thanks guys :) [20:03:50] Althego: not much margin for errors then [20:08:41] ugh ideas.. I should maybe consider in orbit construction for large ships.. [20:10:30] this idea of a station arund the mun, several lander bays... [20:17:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:07:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:07:18] hm a military (?) heli just flew like 50 feet above my house [21:07:20] spoopy [21:07:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:55:36] mabus: an SCP broke containment. ˆˆ mobile task forces were deployed. [21:57:06] uh our teams were supposed to supress that information, I will have to administer amnestics to you [21:58:52] Oops [21:59:31] please look at your screens with attention, I will send class III-B visual amnestics [22:00:16] side effects might include slight nausea or wanting to watch a tv show [22:09:47] why are kittens? [22:09:54] ¿? [22:10:02] STSTS [22:10:27]  [22:11:07] stuff happens [22:11:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:28:34] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M_ys_6eKHg [22:28:34] YouTube - 10 People Who Married Non-Human Things! [22:30:23] hey i made it! [22:30:42] panther + nerva Mun SSTO space plane [22:31:45] thanks Althego & Mat2ch [22:32:05] i think i did it with 2900 m/s dV