[00:24:11] blep [00:24:42] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: I bring you this message FROM THE PAST! [00:26:54] nice [00:27:04] Sadly, I can only travel one second. [00:27:55] Don't fret though! Our engineers at Econo-Temporal Travel Corp. are on the case and are working on a solution for the next release! [00:28:46] They also assure me that the complete skin removal side effect that plagues 14% of travelers will also be reduced to a more manageable 12%. [00:29:16] https://78.media.tumblr.com/dcc2633479326835efdae73d0def99e1/tumblr_oesu3wXwxB1uhm4zso1_540.jpg [00:29:27] good [00:29:44] Fluburtur: Hey, it appears you have footage of one our earlier single engine models! [00:29:56] he was taken down by this guy [00:29:59] The hyena mutation kink was worked out though. [00:30:40] You now only have a .17% chance of transmutation into another lifeform, hyenas now being replaced by a chance of lemurization. Lemurs being more like people, of course. [00:30:59] I guess [00:31:08] Our scientists are unaware why any of that occurred, but I always told them, "that's what you get when your time machine's developed by the same people who wrote Star Trek: Voyager!" [00:31:13] like in that one movie with talking lemurs? [00:32:06] I suppose. I've never actually seen a lemur. [00:32:13] I'm just told they're kind of like tiny people. [00:32:26] Action: Scolar_Visari mutters something about having never seen human beings, either. [00:32:29] they are very small but have that very unique way at looking at you from above [00:33:07] Like pigeons? [00:33:16] eh [00:33:22] not exactly the same [00:34:40] What . . . "What if the Japanese had immediately followed up the airiel assault on Pearl Harbour with a full scale amphibious invasion of Hawaii?" [00:35:18] My answer: The only way in which a full scale amphibious invasion of Hawaii could've been conducted is if the IJN had soldiers row oversized cooking pots across the Pacific. [00:36:28] That would've been both terribly amusing and quite one sided. [00:36:55] yeah [00:37:17] earlier today I was playing war thunder and assaulted pearl harbor with a p51 [00:37:28] my friend had a yak 7 and the other a spitfire [00:38:26] Your friend with the Yak 7 probably one the match I'm guessing? [00:38:44] no we lost [00:38:49] When I first watched the movie Pearl Harbor, the sound wasn't working right. I heard no dialogue but could hear environmental sounds. It was a fascinating thoughtful film, seeing the kids and the plane, but when it switched to the train scene with the young women I realized my home theater was misconfigured. The movie's quality dropped when dialogue was added back in. :-( [00:38:54] there were some very good japanese planes defending [00:39:16] tora tora tora is pretty good [00:39:27] much better than the more recent pearl harbor movie [00:39:33] Mathuin: Ah, yes, "Pearl Harbor", the movie that couldn't decide what number of guided missile destroyers were in the IJN's inventory [00:40:10] Fluburtur: Japanese planes defending pearl harbor? Wait . . . This sounds a lot like Red Alert 3. [00:40:24] it's fiction I guess [00:40:51] Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is indeed fiction. [00:47:38] One would think that, given Pearl Harbor's budget, they'd at least spend some time coming up with CGI to replace blatantly modern escorts for long shots http://i.imgur.com/qaP2xyl.jpg [00:48:11] No wonder the attack was a success: The IJN used modern guided missile destroyers and nuclear submarines! [00:53:36] You missed the nuclear Pearl Harbor! [01:01:03] Action: Scolar_Visari is upset that 'Kushan Empire' on Wikipedia does not have a disambiguation page for Homeworld. [01:06:18] man [01:06:24] hidden figures is a good movie [01:08:34] I've been meaning to watch that, but . . . Kharak needs my help. [01:12:06] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if the Kharakian equivalent to Hidden Figures has S'jet scientists working against prejudiced Gaalsien overlords during the Heresy Wars. [01:14:11] You know, they should seriously consider more Homeworld spinoffs. There's lots of potential in the Heresy Wars era alone. [01:20:47] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders a Deserts of Kharak TC for Civilization [01:23:37] Zzz [01:25:22] Now if only Civilization would transition to globes instead of rectangular projections maps. [01:25:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:26:59] You missed it. There was a Desert in Kharak. [01:32:57] What is up with those helicopters!? [01:33:14] Action: Scolar_Visari watches out for government UH-60s [03:07:01] I honestly wish we had a Total War esque game on Kharak Scolar [03:07:08] or even CK/Europa Universalis [04:11:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:24:46] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [04:24:46] mm... plane mania... KRJ58... modeled after the BEA RJ85 https://imgur.com/a/Wx850 [04:26:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:35:11] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [04:35:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:39:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:54:50] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [04:54:50] ring...? [05:06:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:08:14] Last message repeated 5 time(s). [06:08:14] Ok, assume it's earth we are talking about. You see the aurora borialis at 20 degrees latitude. That's really bad, right? [06:08:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:09:51] From what I know about it, solar wind pushes the magnetic field and it snaps back to a more stable position and that releases an electrical discharge that travels down the field lines and hits the atmosphere? So if you are seeing that near the equator, the earth's magnetic field has gone down the toilet. [06:10:40] was there a aurora at 20 degrees latitude? [06:11:36] No. [06:11:39] Just wondering. [06:11:47] actually, yes [06:11:55] two of them it seems [06:11:58] Well not one just now that I know of. [06:12:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:12:58] carrington event and some other storm [06:14:55] Auroras were seen around the world, those in the northern hemisphere as far south as the Caribbean; [06:15:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event [06:15:32] looks like exactly what are you wondering about [06:16:31] That takes a huge amount of energy and rips the magnetosphere up? [06:16:55] Dang, 1859 we wouldn't have had good data gathering other than human eyes. [06:17:52] Direct hit by a CME. ouch. [06:18:57] Oh, cool, we had some recording stuff back then. I don't know much about astronomy. [06:20:09] >Some telegraph operators could continue to send and receive messages despite having disconnected their power supplies. [06:25:11] Do we have any sats at Earth-Sol Lagrange 1? [06:26:01] 2 [07:01:31] Blaank: DISCOVR and ACE [07:03:30] oh, 2? Not sure at the moment. [07:04:03] I think Herschel was, but it left. [07:14:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:09:17] Last message repeated 15 time(s). [10:09:17] https://78.media.tumblr.com/27092fdcbb12357157e5bf2bc2f7d0a4/tumblr_inline_p0gwgsbjch1tv7l4a_540.png [10:09:25] look at this weird bird [10:12:40] that one is really strange, yes. [10:15:41] there is a job avaiable at the local hardware store [10:15:59] im probably overqualified for this but it's pretty close so worth trying [10:16:14] Life, uh, finds a way [10:20:12] hehe [10:20:52] Fluburtur: go for it. Just do it a few month and quit if you don't like it. Also yes, you're overqualified [10:27:01] Are there challenge lists for KSP? [10:27:10] I've gone to Eve and made it back with all 4 kerbals. [10:27:28] Took me about 20 hours of work and 3 scrapped designs. [10:28:15] only 20? [10:29:26] It was a terrible design that was SSTO, land on mun, refuel, land on ike, refuel, land on eve, refuel, take off and shed 95% of my mass then land on Kerbin. [10:29:41] I'm very proud of it. [10:30:17] https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/96097735801810438/9B4032D5531A5115C82E4B2DF8A0D0484E1E1F99/ landing legs and chutes not stock but those just reduced part counts. [10:43:25] FOR EVE, I REALLZ TRZ TO MINIMIYE CAPSULE MASS [10:43:26] heh [10:43:45] the mk1-2 is the heaviest of all per person [10:43:50] so annythin but that [10:44:00] i once did it just for the chellenge of it [10:45:19] I had other stuff suggested like Mk 2 lander cans. I was going with lithobrake 4 man pod but it's even worse person:mass than anything stock. [10:45:42] I did it for looks mainly [10:46:55] 4 kerbals are hard because there is no 4 person capsule [10:47:04] and you cant really combine the ones to be minimal mass [10:47:16] *the ones existing [10:47:23] Lithobrake Technologies has a 4 person pod that is even worse mass than 4 Mk1 pods [10:47:51] They also have mammoth sized landing legs. [12:20:09] https://youtu.be/1ZqFDsq09H8 [12:20:10] YouTube - Compressed Air Powered Plane [12:23:37] soesnt og very fara [12:26:56] man im sleepy [12:27:02] might take a nap [12:27:03] hm, how would it work with a carbon tank for airguns? [12:27:23] good ol COPV [12:28:08] 20 seconds flight time :D [12:28:12] now that you say it, yes i am [12:28:29] run it on liquid nitrogen [12:28:38] yeah, there were people trying to run cars with compressed air [12:28:45] and then the tiny 3 grams free flight gliders can fly over a minute [12:30:33] at least this motor makes a nice sound [12:31:58] is this some kind of air powered piston engine? Why not use a turbine? [12:32:10] he made a video about the motor itself [12:32:32] I think a turbine will use the air too quickly, this looks like it should work better [12:32:39] now to make a v12 engine [12:34:28] can't he use rela units like bars [12:34:42] apparently he goes up to 60psi which is 4.1 bar [12:35:01] I know I loaded water bottles with up to 6 bars before and they didn't fail [12:35:16] so they can probably resist even higher presure [15:23:20] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7iag0l/leaked_photographs_from_the_ksc_show_the_true/ [15:24:44] Best comment in that thread: " I don't believe in flat earthers, I think they're a lizard government conspiracy to make us humans look bad." [15:25:08] heh [15:25:29] pesky humans [16:33:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:01:39] There is a popular mod that has a black button with a play/eject symbol next to it. The black button has a grid of colorful squares on it, and it's sort of a meta tool bar thing. It is apparently required by a few plugins in CKAN. Is there a way to make it permanently invisible? I don't mean hide it on the edge, I mean not on the screen. [18:18:33] it's a toolbar [18:22:44] I have a mod named Toolbar. I removed it. Hopefully that won't break anything else... [18:28:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:38:10] what in hell https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Breda_30.jpg/1200px-Breda_30.jpg [18:38:55] Fluburtur: Fallout 4 ulra-gun mod? [18:39:00] no [18:39:03] breda 30 [18:43:39] So I have to connect a Dawn engine to a mid-sized fairing base. I don't want anything getting tippy. What's best practices? [18:57:02] Action: Deddly has never used a fairing... [18:57:31] That's only because I've been focusing on spaceplanes for a while [18:58:40] But my inderstanding is that everything inside a fiaring is secured. Isn't that so? [18:59:05] never used a fairing? [18:59:07] how [18:59:20] Althego, cargo bays BTW [18:59:24] FTW* [18:59:52] Althego, I made rockets before fairings were a thing, then I started making spaceplanes... that's where I stayed [19:27:39] Tippy seems to happen when you have disparate sizes of parts you're attaching. [19:28:00] If you make an hourglass rocket with two orange tanks connected by a tiny separatron, you get the wiggles. [19:28:06] Etc. [19:28:23] and dont use struts [19:28:32] but there are even autostruts now [19:30:04] ^ [19:30:20] Autostruct to heaviest part work well enough for me [19:39:16] Don't fairings have autostuts to everything inside them nowadays? [19:40:02] there is something like that too [20:05:18] How does Windows Update always manage to break something every time? [20:05:46] they make extra effort to achieve that every time [20:07:15] it doesnt [20:07:57] every major update breaks my audio drivers and I have to uninstall and reinstall them a few times to get them working again [20:08:01] on windows 10 [20:08:19] conclusion: the audio drivers are bad [20:08:59] yes, but I wonder how they manage to break with each update [20:09:44] there hven't been any new drivers for it since around 2008-2009(?) [20:09:55] discontinued pro-hardware :E [20:10:03] there you go [20:10:13] windows 10 didnt even exist then [20:10:36] why would you assume that those drivers will be compatible with a future version of windows? [20:10:40] look... I know how things work [20:10:52] ms tries to be compatible to the ends of time [20:10:58] tries really hard [20:11:09] obviously you missed the sarcasm [20:11:21] i always do [20:14:21] Eclipser: Virtualize your hardware! it's the future! [20:16:18] one day we won't need hardware! It will be all in the cloud! [20:18:23] unfortunately for audio production that's never going to be a thing [20:19:02] Did you make a Tower of Midi? [20:19:25] it's more like a wall [20:20:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMP-PlL6VM [20:20:39] YouTube - LGR - 486 Upgrade! Building a MIDI Mountain [20:22:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:22:41] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:22:50] I have my battery set to sharge no more than 90% and Windows update stops it working :/ [20:24:08] Deddly: are you trying to save the battery life? [20:24:33] ve2dmn, indeed [20:24:42] Makes a big difference [20:24:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:25:00] My old laptop battery lasted for 8 years because of that feature [20:25:06] The biggest difference is to not use the battery at all :D [20:25:24] ve2dmn, impractical when it is welded to the motherboard [20:26:51] Or possibly soldered ;) [20:27:49] It's one thing I miss in cellphones: removable batteries [20:28:27] Me too, but the solution is to get one with an unreasonably large battery and try not to charge it to 100% [20:28:48] The reduced number of charge cycles will make it last years longer [20:29:04] isn't it charge 'cycles' to kills the cell prematuraly? [20:29:36] What do you mean? [20:29:48] I'm not an expert on battery tech, but I had the impression that It was better to leave them plugged in then letting the phone charge-discharge [20:30:09] OK, so assuming we're talking about Litium Ion, that's not quite true [20:30:47] The optimal solution would be to leave it constantly at 50%, but that's not going to happen [20:31:16] Both fully-charged and completely empty puts a lot of wear and tear on the cells [20:31:39] Fully-charged is better than completely empty, though [20:32:11] The worst thing you can do is to let a Lithium ion battery completely discharge and leave it empty [20:32:44] It's not going to destroy it to let it run out, and it's not going to destroy it to charge it full, but don't leave it in that state. [20:32:56] I'll have to look it up. I never actually took the time to really find good sources of information [20:33:15] Realistically, try and unplug the charger around 80-90% and don't let it go below 20-20% [20:33:58] er [20:34:02] 20-30% [20:35:16] Cycles of 80% - 20% every day will be many times better for the battery than 100% - 0% [20:35:56] Even if the total number of cycles are the same, battery will last many years longer [20:38:03] On the other hand, NiCad batteries LOVE to be completely discharged, and indeed should be left completely empty if you're not going to use them for a long time. Since NiCad is what many people first experienced when it comes to consumer devices with rechargable batteries, people make the big mistake of treating other battery chemistries the same way. RIP batteries [20:38:28] yeah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_commercial_battery_types [20:38:57] Ah, nice [20:39:17] One of the most interesting batteries on that list is the Nickel-iron one [20:39:45] Some of the earliest cars ever built were actually electric, and used those batteries [20:40:25] There are examples still in existence, and still fully-functioning using the original batteries [20:40:43] 100-year-old battery with no degredation. Incredible [20:41:16] much simpler tech. Less possibles modes of failiure [20:42:17] If you have any good reference for battery tech lifetime extention, I'll be happy to read it [20:42:34] You can take that battery, leave it out in extremely low temperatures with zero charge so that the electrolyte freezes, then start charging it, leave it with no overcharge protection so that the water completely boils dry, replace the water, battery will be like new. [20:42:48] so why don't we really use them much anymore [20:43:02] not high enough energy density? [20:43:06] tawny, there's an interesting story there. [20:43:35] The energy density is indeed inferior to Lead acid [20:44:28] but because you can completely discharge it with no damage, the useful charge is actually about the same [20:46:09] tawny, as to why we don't use them: Exide bought the tech and subsequently killed it off in favour of lead acid batteries they already were producing [20:46:37] .... [20:46:56] anyone built a thing for helping pilots in and out of aircraft? [20:47:01] Oh yes, it has another weakness: high self discharge [20:47:04] plus, consumers wanted 'shelf-life' batteries. And other types have a longer shlef-life [20:47:33] ve2dmn, what is a "shelf-life" battery? [20:47:59] one that last a long time on the shelf before you use it. [20:48:03] JCB, are you talking about KSP? [20:48:17] (Maybe a translation issue here. don't mind me) [20:48:46] ve2dmn, ah, yes. Nickel Iron discharges itself quite quickly compared with other technologies. But it works very well in some applications [20:49:16] yes. Ones with constant recharges, like solar, winds, trains, etc... [20:50:07] deddly ya.. for most part. somehow ended up building a passenger plane thats working rather well. guess I should consider more runways first... [20:50:55] JCB, so you need a ladder to get in the plane? [20:51:09] JCB, or lower the landing gear [20:51:42] ve2dmn, sorry all I said is from memory. There are some excellent articles out there though [20:51:54] (in reference to your request for sources) [20:51:58] also whine for not making a couple of fuel tanks into cargo pods or something [20:52:27] deddly eh.. mk3 spaceplane cockpit.. 3 of those 16 passenger cabin parts [20:52:51] I tried a cargo varient but... didn't quite work out as well as my other, the Mule [20:53:49] Deddly: reminds me a bit about Zylog. They were making too much money to spend time developping FPGA tech. So the Engineers left and started a new company which is now worth many times what Zylog is worth. [20:54:41] But at the time it was like: "Nobody is gonna use that tech. The other one are much cheaper and much more efficient" [20:54:41] Deddly the KRJ-58 https://imgur.com/a/WbRRZ [20:54:42] https://i.imgur.com/1PLX99u.jpg [20:55:59] What is Zylog? [20:56:26] That's nice, JCB [20:56:48] sorry, Zilog, not Zylog [20:57:09] ve2dmn, ok, what is Silog? :) [20:57:12] Zilog* [20:57:33] JCB, does it really need all those aelerons? [20:57:35] They made the 8-bit and 16-bit chips in the old computers [20:57:38] Deddly it was based off the BAE RJ-85.. just something I started fiddling with last night [20:57:43] ailerons* [20:57:48] like the TRS-80 and the ZX81 [20:58:05] ve2dmn mm... TRS-80 model 1 pocket computer right next to me [20:58:29] Deddly aelerons are on the wing tips... two of them each. but I turn off the inner during cruise. the rest are used as flaps [20:58:47] ZX81 was Sinclair, wasn't it? [20:58:53] They were making tons of money on microcontrollers and other parts to see the futur in FPGA tech [20:59:07] JCB, ok fair enough :) [20:59:29] now compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xilinx [20:59:54] cruising at alt of 4220, 185m/s burning only 0.25/second [21:01:09] Ah I see [21:01:57] JCB, are you doing a range test? [21:02:20] sorta.... [21:02:39] I thought of crusing to the south tip of the mainland... but .. eh. [21:03:08] the tail section is made of fuel tanks but they are empty. having that much fuel back there would mess with balance over time [21:03:47] fuel is mainly in the wings, those tanks that make up the engine pods, and the cowlings that make up the wheel fairings [21:04:29] Ah, nice that you emptied the read tanks. I was expecting you to have serious balance problems later in the flight. [21:04:36] rear* tanks [21:05:24] considering... I've been into aviation since I was a kid... part way through getting my recreational class pilot's permit... [21:05:44] JCB: I did the ground school part [21:06:19] ya.. they want me to run through it again, since its been a while. Weather has been crap out here for anything outside summer.. [21:07:50] mm... I should probably get a proper aircraft autopilot for my flying around.. think about bringing back kerbinside and some of the settlements I built [21:11:14] Comment by DuoDex: https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7iag0l/leaked_photographs_from_the_ksc_show_the_true/dqxs3s4/ [21:11:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:20:37] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [21:20:37] JCB, haha I just noticed the small little strake wing parts being used as a fillet for the tail [21:21:17] strake tank.. ya... [21:21:37] did that help it fly better, or is it just for aesthetics [21:22:05] sorta both.. [21:22:13] neat! [21:22:29] rudder part though... I might change I don't know yet. for now, seems to work. [21:22:58] loose an outer engine, can still control it kinda [21:25:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:29:22] welp.. looks like flight cut short. Getting called away to help someone. yay for revert flight [21:29:51] but first test water landing [21:32:13] lol.. ok that went better than expected... no damage and can even take off... if careful [21:34:20] Nice [21:34:25] So quick save :) [21:34:30] oh, wow, nice [21:35:15] do know gotta take care on runway landing. touch down just a bit too fast, wings snap off [21:36:45] anycase.. gotta run [21:48:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:52:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:52:18] New Weekly is out https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/168325-ksp-weekly-longest-stay-on-the-moon/ [21:53:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:54:20] Deddly: KSP on consoles? Which ones? [21:55:24] ve2dmn, consoles? KSP console versions were made for XBoxOne and PS4 [21:56:10] it mentions "Kerbal Space Program Enhanced Edition" in the weekly [21:56:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:56:52] Oh, I haven't got there yet :) [21:57:49] I only care for Nintendo Exclusives. Most of the other games, I can get on PC [21:57:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:58:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/388810836074037249/24862413_544810872528203_4995124498588054749_n.png [22:01:25] ve2dmn, ok so the current game on consoles is version 1 and is no longer available. This is a completely new rewrite of the game, and so much has changed that they obviously feel a slightly new name is appropriate [22:05:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:49:32] Last message repeated 6 time(s). [22:49:32] My IRC client is flashing that someone tagged me, but it's off scrollback [23:04:53] lordcirth, not today [23:07:15] lordcirth: I use hexchat "highlight" which stores text that pinged me [23:07:21] so i can read whatever said it [23:08:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:41:11] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [23:41:11] Rolf, is that a plugin? I'm using hexchat [23:41:25] it is [23:41:35] a sec [23:42:09] https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat-addons/blob/master/perl/showhighlight/showhighlight.pl [23:58:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net