[06:16:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:19:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:59:43] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:59:43] Lyneira, geraldbrent hi [07:06:02] . [07:06:25] Hi darsie [07:06:32] . [07:08:55] .. [08:22:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:45:15] Althego: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1336041065879580673/photo/1 I bet they waited for Elon to get back from Germany. [08:45:34] Action: Mat2ch looks at UmbralDrone [08:45:43] Where's your hive? [08:54:02] well... https://photos.app.goo.gl/81s65njL4TmUcuZQ9 [09:10:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:10:06] well, Elon's not building a factory in Germany anytime soon, either [09:16:26] woot? [09:17:16] oh, well, nothing to worry [09:17:31] What did I miss? [09:17:36] and welcome to Germany, where it's more important to save a few hectar of forest than the climate. [09:18:40] a court stopped the clearing of 82 hectar of forest (a timber to be clear), because of wildlife conservation [09:19:00] Haven't they done that at least once before? [09:19:08] They have [09:19:19] But it was overturned very quickly [09:19:37] but this is a new part for storage and pipelines [09:20:31] it's funny. Those people say that they want to preserve rare animals, but climate change will probably kill them in a few years anyway [09:20:34] so... [09:21:11] "But we have to at least try". No, we have to take care of the huge problem first that will kill 90 % of all animals probably [09:21:48] I see nobody of them protesting in front of the Brazilian embassy in Berlin, so... [09:22:01] (and I don't consider this politics, this is self-preservation ;P ) [10:01:20] the live timer delayed [10:01:24] something like 2 hours? [10:21:40] 15:00 local time :P [10:22:52] which is 14:00 GMT+0 which is the start of the launch window [10:23:32] I hope we're going to see a crater. But I fear everything will go alright... :D [10:23:41] hehe [10:23:50] i doubt it would make a big crater [10:24:02] more like a pile of steel on fire [10:24:12] Just found out about Yeager.. through a friend. Very much sad, :( [10:24:33] Mind you... impressive he made it to 97 years [10:25:05] what, i didnt think he was still alive [10:25:26] Passed on last night [10:25:50] er well.. just yesterday. I don't know any more details. Suspect old age? [10:27:12] https://twitter.com/JerWah/status/1336098770648436736 [10:29:12] Any news on when the 15 turned 12km flight going to take place yet? [10:29:53] in ~3h at the earliest, says the stream link [10:30:43] makes it 0530PST for me then.. arg. I keep trying to fix my sleep routine... [10:31:14] ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf83yzzme2I ) [10:33:35] since they have to block the road, clear the pad, fill the rocket... in 5-6 hours maybe [10:34:03] the test window starts in three hours and then they usually need another three hours to go through all the checks [10:39:16] guess I could push my routine back just this one.. [10:39:40] forgot.. TX site right? [10:40:23] oh n/m.. says on stream info.. gotta wonder though, if this thing decides to south.. planned cratering site? [10:59:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Hikaru' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:31:57] https://i.redd.it/onjyncyz5w361.jpg [12:36:37] (local) leet time [12:37:13] colors or designs? kind of hard to figure colors if its in b/w.. derp [12:38:30] makes me think of this: https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/reserved-parking-for-green-vehicles-is-that-a-green-vehicle_100654074_l.jpg [12:38:49] technically .. it is green. You weren't specific enough [12:47:01] here there are green registration plates for those cars, so it is obvious [12:48:01] here they added an E to the plate and I don't like it. [12:58:11] we got stickers too.. its a power cord that wraps around in a circle, with 'OK' in the middle [13:00:05] status: village cleared? people had to leave their homes at dawn because of a test? that sounds bad [13:00:58] derp... stream got pushed another few hours? Got it showing it'll start at 8am here now instead of 5 [13:03:41] and even after that it is going to take hours [13:03:45] you could just sleep instead [13:05:16] is it sad I'm checking when the nearby coffee shop is going to open, right now? [13:05:29] hehehe [13:06:16] half hour.... hmm [13:06:39] I know if i go sleep.. I'm going to be a serious grouch and wanna sleep in 50 times [13:09:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:35:28] what [13:36:07] !nela [13:36:08] Althego => Starship Prototype - Starship Suborbital Test Flight (12.5 km) - Tue Dec 08, 2020 14:00:00 UTC (L-00:23:19) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/starship-suborbital- for info/stream [13:36:26] it is a bit out of date [13:39:23] well, 16:00 UTC+0 it says now. [13:39:44] And youtube really needs a better timer. It says "live in 2 hours" when it's 2 hours and 59 minutes... [13:55:19] i am never sure wheter it is rounding or truncating [13:55:24] quite annoying [13:57:44] wellllllllllll [13:59:29] uh, they are booming SN8 again [13:59:38] I hope just a safety check? [13:59:51] But that means that the road is not closed yet and they havn't started anything [14:19:42] booming? [14:21:54] guessing reference to tank pressure test [14:22:09] ah [14:24:32] I guessed it means they brought the crane out [14:24:40] not watching any stream, though [14:25:30] Action: packbart made it to The Expanse Book #5 [14:25:42] waiting on season 5 still [14:26:13] I hope they leave out the boring stuff at the beginning [14:26:33] and they'd need to cram 3 books into one season, I guess [14:27:09] 4 even. I didn't know there was a Book [14:27:11] #9 [14:27:23] unpublished, yet [14:27:34] didn't know about the books. Which is the story based off... the written or the series? [14:27:42] ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(novel_series) ) [14:28:16] ok so the book then [14:28:22] the 'normal' way [14:28:48] I like the books better [14:29:06] Avasarala can swear there [14:29:29] ah, ok, they roughly followed the book, it seems. I thought we'd been up to Season 5 already, covering Book #4. I was wrong [14:29:42] yeah, I'm currently listening to the audio book series [14:35:57] ah [14:37:31] I read the first Eragon book.. it was a gift from co-worker ages ago.. then saw the movie. One of the times I got to compare to the two... other one was Golden Compass (I read all 3 books, though it took me a while to aquire) [14:37:57] don't get me wrong, the actor that plays Avasarala does a fantastic job, but the character loses something without the potty mouth [14:39:02] you get a sense of her attitude in the series. I might end up a little turned off if she'd did fire her mouth off more [14:46:03] umaxtu: JVFoxy: Reference to the boom lifts. ;) [14:47:17] Mat2ch: ok.. what's the cherry picker boom cage thing doing? I'm not sure see connection with 'booming'? [14:48:15] JVFoxy: I call it "booming", because from the distance it looks like they are doing something with the boom lifts themselfs on SN8. [14:48:36] Think of it like "inspecting" or "repairing" [14:48:59] ok.. different kind of 'boom'... was thinking explody boom type [14:49:37] :) [14:50:21] it looks like they are inspecting the cableing? [14:54:33] mm.. inspeshhun [14:54:53] dang it.. didn't even get that right [14:58:32] Live in 61 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf83yzzme2I Starship | SN8 | High-Altitude Flight Test [15:18:29] I'mma get coffee... kind of wanna be awake when this thing plays out [15:21:13] Comment from the Nerdle Cam stream: "Hello from Mars, please leave us alone." [15:21:16] :D [15:21:56] Pad seems to be clear so far [15:22:13] Nerdle cam..? [15:22:16] but I saw a car driving back, maybe the last workers? [15:22:21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5l9ZxsG9M [15:23:10] ooh that cam [15:26:24] ok better run off do this coffee run before things start [15:42:11] :D [15:43:44] and back [16:02:00] spacex channel 'still waiting'.. [16:02:43] pbviously [16:02:54] just az 150k people [16:03:23] maybe it fell over [16:03:39] or they fighting of the Kraken [16:04:29] tank farm venting [16:06:39] Hello everybody [16:08:12] Hi [16:08:15] yo [16:08:16] Hello Mod9000 [16:08:18] :P [16:09:14] derp [16:09:23] hehe [16:10:11] 10 minutes felt like its been a lot longer... [16:10:52] any word on when the actual window is? SpaceX just saying launch time TBD.. [16:11:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:12:18] I heard it was supposed to be in a few days [16:12:59] JVFoxy: iirc an hour [16:13:01] at least [16:13:31] But I can be wrong and they are faster at fueling now [16:13:38] ok.. try to stay up that long. Maybe this can be start of brute forcing my sleep routine back to somewhat normal [16:14:49] haha spacex ship go brrrr [16:15:20] brrr cuz of cold tanks? Maybe [16:15:40] it's weird how humans can understand rocket science, more or less Kerbals, considering they're pretty stupid. [16:15:44] long as its not brrrrrrrrt... this no A-10 gun [16:16:08] the brrrr is the sound it makes when it launches [16:16:13] Mind you.. who was it used those A-10 guns as engines for a rocket in KSP a while back? [16:16:26] A-10 ping [16:16:29] argh [16:16:32] i knew it [16:16:35] lol [16:16:37] helo Rokker [16:16:39] s [16:16:42] sup [16:16:47] Either Matt Lowne, or Nexter's Lab [16:16:54] are we all hyped for starship? [16:16:57] New piece for a museum coming up. Maybe a bit flattend. [16:16:59] cant fuel it faster, because of the cold liquids [16:17:02] heck yes [16:17:06] so it is impossible to launch in an hour [16:17:08] and mourning yeager :( [16:17:25] do they even have starship on the launchpad yet [16:17:38] uh [16:17:43] for WEEKS [16:17:50] oh [16:18:01] I have forgotton how long we are waiting for the flight now ;) [16:18:02] Tristen_Simon: its literally launching like within the next few hours [16:18:04] oh right here.. SWDennis https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIu8jR5L7tAhXDLH0KHRYhDecQtwIwAXoECAEQAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRkXDYC2y258&usg=AOvVaw0wnzrj1Src3hTJvBULDUpI [16:18:13] hi rokker o/ [16:18:18] oh for the love of... dang it google [16:18:21] oh cool [16:18:32] Tank wassup [16:18:38] long time no see [16:18:43] nothing much... [16:18:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqL7fYIhhds [16:18:56] yeah [16:19:40] cursor over the link, shows youtube link like it should. Copy it, then paste shows long garbage.. [16:19:58] oh btw JVFoxy a friend of mine is uploading videos of a livestream tour of the air force museum i did if you wanna check em out [16:20:51] Rokker: ya.. sad about Yeager too. Friend gave me a heads up. I had someone reply to a comment I made on youtube about him a few weeks ago. It was a clip of his cameo in The Right Stuff. [16:21:23] Rokker: sorry.. which one? [16:21:36] the National Museum of the USAF [16:21:42] in Dayton [16:22:48] ah.. [16:23:46] oh, in the NASA Spaceflight stream they just said that the target altitude of 15 km got lowered due to high wind zones there [16:23:58] so they stay below that to get a more predictable fliggt [16:24:01] *flight [16:24:48] We don't want them to lose control and spin like a helicopter and hit the ground at Mach 3 unlike how we do in Kerbal Space Program [16:25:00] SN8 venting [16:25:40] they lowered it to 12.5 sometime last week [16:26:08] And some kind of car just drove by [16:26:18] still no official stream? [16:26:33] Rokker: just looking at some pics, was just curious. I'm not too big on fighter/air force stuff. [16:26:50] I mean. .there are some stuff, but .. eh I don't know these days [16:26:51] JV how dare you [16:27:11] we have the fastest X-15 [16:27:20] aka fastest plane in the world [16:27:24] shoo [16:27:47] its more a rocket though [16:27:59] nah [16:28:03] its got wings [16:28:25] does it lift off from a runway? [16:28:32] Then the Space Shuttle was faster. :D [16:28:33] on its own power [16:28:55] stupid nitpickers here! [16:29:00] ;) [16:29:09] The space shuttle is technically a space plane and not a spaceship [16:29:11] Karmen Line... [16:29:58] Spaceshuttle: launches like a rocket, floats in space like a spaceship, lands like a plane... jack of all trades [16:30:29] Wasn't the space shuttle carried upwards into the sky by another plane? [16:30:43] for testing yes [16:30:59] ah [16:31:18] shuttle transport plane.. it was drop tested, acted more like a glider. [16:31:47] first flights were with an aerodynamic fairing. Later ones, it was removed, and engine bells exposed to see what the drag was like [16:32:16] the fairing was kept for when the shuttle got transported during its operations [16:34:31] and then once that was done, it launched straight up, put a satellite into orbit, and came back down AND LANDED ON A RUNWAY?! That must've taken a freaking BUNCH of aero-braking. [16:34:44] Or parachutes [16:35:19] Depending on whether it moved relative to the Earth's rotation, or to the opposite. [16:36:16] flaming belly aerobraking.... (geez, almost was going to say aerobreaking.. that woudn't be good) [16:36:30] If it moved to the opposite, then there would've been more atmospheric pressure and drag, because the air and the atmosphere are moving one way, and the space shuttle is moving the opposite direction to it. [16:36:51] don't break the air that's not good [16:36:53] retro orbits aren't really done [16:37:34] what's a retro-orbit [16:37:43] it says it's a radiation disease [16:37:59] JVFoxy: except by Israel... :D [16:38:02] orbiting the opposite direction the planet spins.. [16:38:06] oh [16:38:22] Mat2ch well right... forgot about them. Though its not like they much choice.. [16:38:30] Mat2ch wait what [16:38:51] polar orbits are a touch retro.. only cuz it helps to move the orbit around so its somewhat in line with the sun [16:39:10] Tristen_Simon: that's the only way they can launch rockets from their country without going over another country [16:39:13] also SN8 is venting [16:39:18] but slowly [16:39:52] well you could launch straight up.. although its not exactly.. efficient. [16:39:52] oh [16:40:16] JVFoxy: I guess then going retrograde is more efficient [16:40:36] If you want an orbit, use SRBs to get out of the atmosphere, then use LFE to get into orbit so that way you can control your thrust [16:40:52] and how elliptical of an orbit you want [16:42:55] But, to escape Earth's Sphere of Influence, you're gonna want a few more SRBs to go after you decouple your LFE you used to get into orbit. [16:43:52] Action: JVFoxy pokes net connection [16:44:19] chances of them calling it off due to hydrolic issues? [16:46:54] That would suck [16:47:11] no.. it would suck if they launched and wings just flapped randomly [16:47:13] But, better to be safe than sorry [16:47:28] Then Starship gon go spin [16:47:40] or just plummet back towards the Earth [16:48:17] I know the Atlas rocket for Apollo was somewhat rushed. They do pressure testing like they do today or..? [16:48:22] We need fins because it helps control the ship's steering and direction. [16:48:44] They do pressure testing a lot more seriously now and take the time to do it [16:49:14] not so much steering but I think more pitch, angle. Steering you would need to roll the body, have a tail fin [16:49:15] They won't release a launch date or launch at all if atmospheric pressure is too high [16:49:47] yeah that's what i mean [16:55:16] there's so many people here but barely anybody's talking [17:02:32] i have returned [17:02:34] hello [17:03:31] halo [17:04:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:05:24] tristen welcome to irc [17:05:30] yes [17:05:38] I have a question [17:05:54] this is the way it was and ever will be [17:06:42] How are Kerbals so stupid, but they're able to understand Rocket Science more than we can. [17:07:26] behind the scenes its all different [17:07:33] wdym [17:08:18] wdym? is that a code for something? [17:08:33] what do you mean (wdym) [17:09:21] Tank2333, you should have gone: "wdym? wdym?" [17:09:59] i gotta go [17:10:20] that was a fast goodby [17:11:17] aloH [17:11:42] hola [17:11:46] hey tristen [17:11:55] gone [17:12:05] he's back [17:12:28] so it is [17:12:39] oy yos iS [17:13:21] beJ res odneignif yotsE [17:15:04] odneicid yotse euq ol sadneitne on etnemelbaborP [17:15:54] Translation: Hello. It is me. I'm pretending to be Jeb. You probably don't understand what I'm saying. (It's reversed Spanish) [17:16:30] maybe try reversing it like this [17:16:39] sᴉɥʇ ǝʞᴉl ʇᴉ ƃuᴉsɹǝʌǝɹ ʎɹʇ ǝqʎɐɯ [17:17:16] how do i do that [17:19:24] lol.. RUD [17:19:45] crazy elon..? [17:20:38] im back [17:21:01] flayer how did you do that upside down text [17:21:09] i didn't [17:21:15] Althego did [17:21:22] how tho [17:21:29] try https://www.upsidedowntextgenerator.com/ [17:21:49] ok i'll see if it works [17:22:02] it does [17:22:14] Ok im switch to Jebediah_Kerman now [17:22:23] just go /nick [17:22:27] /nick jebediah_kerman [17:22:29] oh ok [17:22:50] Yay [17:22:54] hi jeb [17:23:30] ɐloɥ [17:23:36] Jeb, why do you always die first? [17:24:18] cuz he's a seat hog [17:24:25] ^^ [17:24:42] ǝɯ ʎllnq noʎ ʎɥʍ [17:24:52] I try to give Val time on the seat as well [17:25:09] sʇɥƃıɹ uɐɯoʍ [17:25:27] wooaahhhh [17:25:34] no.. equal rights [17:25:40] ɹǝɥ ɹǝʇɟɐ pǝɯɐu uooɯ ɐ sɐɥ ʎllɐɔısɐq lɐʌ [17:26:17] I mean.. if it really gets me, I could dump them both into a pod somewhere on the runway, higher up other pilots [17:26:32] ... hire.. ugh brain work.. not [17:26:50] noʎ ɹǝʇɟɐ pǝɯɐu uooɯ ɐ ƃuıʌɐɥ sɐ looɔ sɐ ʇou ʇnq looɔ ɐpuıʞ sı ɥɔıɥʍ 'lɐqɹǝʞ pǝzıuƃoɔǝɹ ʇsoɯ ǝɥʇ ǝq oʇ sı ʇǝƃ ı llɐ [17:27:05] im out... to long [17:27:32] ʇɐɥʍ [17:28:09] i wont try reading that text, its too long and life is too short [17:28:32] this is kinda like discord but it has less features [17:28:37] oops [17:28:45] sǝɹnʇɐǝɟ ssǝl sɐɥ ʇı ʇnq pɹoɔsıp ǝʞıl ɐpuıʞ sı sıɥʇ [17:28:56] Didn't Scott get a space body named after him? [17:28:57] you know you can just look upside down [17:29:25] ¿pıp ǝɥ [17:29:37] I can read it backwards, upside down.. its not /that/ hard [17:29:47] ya.. video was a while back. [17:30:07] ¿ɯıɥ ɹǝʇɟɐ pǝɯɐu ʇoƃ ʇɐɥʍ [17:30:23] In recognition for his work as a popular science communicator, asteroid 33434 Scottmanley was named after him. The official naming citation was published by the Minor Planet Center on 18 May 2019 (M.P.C. 114954). [17:30:41] nice [17:30:46] ohhh [17:30:57] he deserved it :) [17:31:14] who's scott [17:31:22] hehe [17:31:41] is he a KSP developer or a kerbal [17:31:51] no [17:31:57] ok [17:32:09] he's a spaceman [17:32:09] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIQ2byD6b6o [17:32:13] a KSP player who doesnt know Scott? [17:32:15] odd [17:32:22] his video on it [17:32:25] I've only played it a few times [17:32:28] he is pretty much an honorary Kerman by now [17:32:31] "hullo, it's scott manley here" [17:32:33] ah i see [17:32:38] Fly safe [17:32:42] his name is in the game :) [17:32:49] I only knew what KSP was about 6 months ago [17:32:56] i was watching scott manley videos before i even tried KSP, he kinda got me into it [17:33:09] I didn't get the game until about a month ago on the XBOX One [17:33:23] I'm hoping to get a gaming laptop to play KSP on instead [17:34:01] I found out about KSP through a friend who was over from Ireland, looking for work here. Back during 0.18 [17:34:07] i firt wathed some of his orbital mechanics videos and than some ksp serieses [17:34:30] My uncle plays KSP and when he told me about it I really got into it [17:34:49] nice [17:34:52] cool uncle [17:34:59] then i went in blindly and thought going straight up would immediately put me into orbit [17:35:13] but no, you actually have to do things [17:35:14] sadly my nephew only played minecraft minigames... [17:35:49] i'm even making a 2d remake of KSP with some people on Scratch [17:35:54] before i played kerbal i didnt even know what "orbit" realy means :) [17:36:34] Here's the link to my KSP2D thing: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/27870656/ [17:38:56] My username is TwistenX [17:39:12] Now it's also my name here [17:40:26] bro where did everybody go [17:40:34] hehe [17:40:42] wot [17:40:57] the page does not load for me... [17:41:11] slow internet? it work for me [17:41:16] i'mma try again [17:41:23] probably doesnt want to crawl through the undersea cable [17:41:30] https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/27870656/projects/ [17:41:31] im in europe . maybe thats why [17:41:34] here [17:41:47] it's an international page [17:41:52] yes, loads really slowly here too [17:42:01] he's reading off speeds.. I still remember when Apollo did that, it was read off as ft/s... brain can't figure that scale out yet other than for vertical speed in aircraft [17:42:12] what [17:42:28] are you talking about the physics and pressure project? [17:42:55] my cat sunk into the ground [17:43:05] watching the stream, guys replying to questions [17:43:08] we're doing m/s and km/s in the final project because that's what KSP uses [17:43:22] Tank2333 yeah that happens sometimes [17:43:34] why not cm/s or mm/s [17:43:46] because KSP used m/s and km/s [17:43:53] I know some m/s... but I'm better with km/s, knotts, km/h but when it comes to height, I can do feet, but km when it comes to orbital stuff [17:44:10] i want farthons/y [17:44:21] Action: flayer lets some gas escape for Tank2333 [17:44:32] stop this no we're using m/s and km/s [17:44:33] too many different scales [17:44:42] we're only using 2 scales [17:44:48] only because of usa [17:44:55] :) [17:44:56] i live in USA [17:44:58] flying planes, we use knots.. but flying ultralights they use MPH.. seriousy.. even in Canada? [17:45:08] but aviation uses strange units because of tehm [17:45:11] we're pretty dumb for using the imperial system [17:45:20] the metric system is easier and better [17:45:32] ^ tell that rokker [17:45:44] Rokker metric system better [17:45:51] even the old empire can't make up their mind about metrics [17:45:57] yes [17:46:05] no [17:46:06] canada just uses both [17:46:16] yes metric system is easier [17:46:30] you are what you are.. if it works for you.. then fine. [17:46:37] one of my favorite examples, say you have hex keys (allen keys), what order they are in in imperial? [17:46:38] depends [17:46:42] completely illogical [17:46:42] but somehow even in germany we use inches for pipes.... dont ask why [17:46:49] germany [17:46:53]