[01:26:15] "Payload Integration Complex has a business module. Assign kerbals to it and it farms funds and pays for itself in 3 years with 1 kerbal or 1 year with max kerbals." - well, somebody's got to produce all those flags stuck in every moon and crater [01:26:20] ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/190893-18x-ksc-harbor-from-jnsq-v10/ ) [01:36:45] "Continuing with the engines revamp, take a look at the Rockomax Conglomerate RE-15 "Skipper". Are you excited about it?" - the yellow stripes are gone :/ https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/190877-ksp-loading-preview-rockomax-conglomerate-re-15-skipper/ [01:37:03] well, ok, they probably didn't belong there in the first place. I liked them, anyway [01:49:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:45:53] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [07:45:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:53:39] "The outpost must be on motorized wheels." Does it suffice to have any wheel somewhere, or do the wheels need to lift everything else off the surface? [11:59:46] yes [12:03:11] The latter, it seems. [12:03:59] And some symmetry is required, it seems. [12:13:24] Or not. Seems a bug didn't let three wheels count. It now works with three wheels. [12:18:00] Interesting. I never got a contract with that requirement, yet [12:20:25] The on wheels detector seems glitchy, but even one wheel seems to count: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot89.png [12:21:09] Only wheels may touch the surface. [12:25:42] I want Duna missions :( [12:25:46] Get one. [12:25:57] Have you been there? [12:26:19] only in orbit [12:26:25] That should suffice. [12:26:37] you get duna missions even before going there [12:26:43] i don't :o [12:26:43] If there's non, wait till the contracts expire, like 7 days. [12:26:45] probably with low probability [12:26:57] i treat those as a form of loan, i get a lot of money for doing nothing [12:27:03] I went there with my own funds because I needed science [12:27:15] If there's none, wait till the contracts expire, like 7 days. [12:27:28] then check again. Repeat. [12:28:28] Doing the Kerbin/Mun/Minmus missions gets you Duna missions, too. [12:29:16] maybe I just didn't do the right one [12:29:29] I've been several times to Minmus and the Mun with tourists [12:29:34] several stations in orbit too [12:29:41] Mun and Minmus? [12:29:48] yes [12:30:00] If there's none, wait till the contracts expire, like 7 days. then check again. Repeat. [12:30:13] will do will do :) [12:30:14] How often did you try that? [12:30:26] never [12:30:31] Try 5-10 times [12:30:32] I'll try this evening when I get home [12:31:12] no, hit max time warp and enter mission control after 7 days [12:31:21] ahh, evening. nm. [12:31:23] :D [12:31:36] I read every evening. [12:58:45] I can't get a minimal Duna surface station contract. Always something extra like a research lab, fuel or pilots. [13:00:01] I hate those with pilots [13:00:11] I always need to plan another mission to get them back [13:01:19] You can leave them there. [13:02:38] I left my Minmus research lab scientists there. [13:03:02] I just have the original four [13:03:07] + 2 I rescued from space [13:04:14] You can hire or rescue more. [13:04:48] Wanna know an easy way to rescue Kerbals from LKO? [13:05:04] go ahead [13:05:23] I usually rendezvous with an unmaned pod with parachutes [13:08:16] I have a wake up satellite in orbit. Just an Oscar B with an ant etc. close flyby with the Kerbal, switch over, EVA, jetpack to ~70.5 circular orbit, 3.1 EVA fuel burn to deorbit, land with parachute, or skydive horizontally to a low altitude, ideally sea where terminal velocity is low and impact survivable. [13:10:50] kerbals can actually survive reentry? [13:11:02] yes [13:11:10] Try my recipe. [13:11:31] turn them sideways during reentry [13:11:36] no [13:11:57] in my tests, they overheated otherwise [13:11:58] Burn retrograde and leave them until the heat is over. [13:12:07] 3.1 EVA fuel [13:12:21] I think I'll stick with a rocket though, I prefer to be kinda realistic [13:12:39] Who says it's unrealistic? This is not Earth.3 [13:13:30] For Earth they thought of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOOSE [13:14:22] really [13:15:39] They never did it, but it might work. [13:40:17] there's nothing like solid, expendable drop suits ;) ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTFoEIqa60Y&t=20s ) [15:26:56] Jeb has a blackout: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot90.png [15:46:35] he's got Bill's helmet sticking in his face [19:38:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:17:02] Action: darsie sends Valentina and Jerbin on a one way mission to Duna surface. [20:33:25] Will they survive impact? [20:45:24] Probably. Initially I wanted to use one or two cubes as crumpling zone, but I would have to dump the tank and engine first and thought ... why not use the engine? So my great idea turned into a conventional mission. [20:45:43] There's a parachute, too. [20:46:02] Will they survive entry? [20:46:47] http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot91.png [21:52:52] wee.. experiments with ground stations [21:53:49] seeing what setups work and can reach geostationary satellites with reasonsable signal strengths [22:05:50] darsie: you can do it! [22:18:27] Ablate is real https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.02217 [22:23:26] even shorter days than on Earth? I'm not moving there [22:24:01] in other spacey news: solar power induces current in norwegian soil: https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=07&month=01&year=2020 [22:24:06] Tesla Aurora Charger [22:25:26] Ablate... well ouch 3480 k... [22:25:54] lol.. ground.. power.. whats the diff [22:28:44] "days" it's tidally locked [22:28:45] oh wait - it's year is less than a day long if I read that right. Impressive, too [22:29:34] … wait, isn't 3480 K like M0, or something [22:30:18] its year. funny how those typos happen [22:31:37] wikiality says ~M2. hrm [22:31:58] m0 m2.. eh? not familiar with those [22:34:54] I'm being silly by applying stellar spectral classes to a planet [22:35:03] OBAFGKM etc [22:35:30] ah the spectral classes, got ya [22:35:45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification#/media/File:HR-diag-no-text-2.svg [22:36:37] yeah [22:38:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:52:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:05:36] a little something that came up in a chat else where.... [23:06:07] NGC3982: Was no problem: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot93.png [23:06:26] a while back I came across a little program that helped figure out day, year cycles, planet/sun masses. Used it to figure out a fictional planet for something i was writing up on. [23:07:29] like to really do something else with it. Although, how difficult is it to replace the solar system in KSP with a custom?