[00:57:41] <Lewie> heyyo
[00:59:18] <raptop> hi, Lewie?
[01:00:00] <Lewie> hi
[01:00:18] <Lewie> are there any players here that play on PS4?
[01:00:35] <Lewie> hi Mod9000
[01:00:40] <Lewie> bot bad
[01:00:47] <Lewie> how are things with you?
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[01:07:18] <Lewie> I need some help
[01:07:43] <raptop> Afraid I only have the PC version, but depending on what the question is, we may still be able to help
[01:08:17] <Lewie> well ok
[01:08:55] <Lewie> y'all know that little box in the left corner that shows your pitch, yaw and roll with small orange arrows?
[01:09:27] <raptop> yeah
[01:09:58] <raptop> well, pitch/yaw/roll inputs anyway
[01:10:14] <Lewie> well sometimes when I'm playing for a while pink arrows will pop up in those boxes with the orange ones. 
[01:11:36] <raptop> Not on the navball?
[01:11:56] <Lewie> and whenever I move the thumbstick, themovement will go towards the set pink marker. ea, if my pitch has a pink arrow in the top of it, No matter if I move my tumbstick up or down, the orange marker will move to the pink one, thus causing my craft to pitch up
[01:12:01] <Lewie> no on the navball
[01:12:18] <Lewie> not on the nav ball, sorry
[01:12:52] <Lewie> and I don't know how to get rid of them, so I will have to revert my flight that I have just put the last hour or so into.
[01:16:16] <Lewie> sorry for rambaling
[01:17:11] <raptop> it's fine
[01:17:35] <Lewie> thanks
[01:17:47] <Lewie> does anyone else have this problem?
[01:17:58] <raptop> the pink arrow thing sounds like a revised trim UI. on a PC, I'd suggest hitting alt+x, but not sure what they are on the PS4
[01:19:31] <Lewie> maybe dinking around with the little circle things on the left of the nav ball could help? (sorry I don't know what it's called even though I often times use the retorgrade one for landings
[01:29:18] <Lewie> what are those little badges that users have in the forum?
[01:30:45] <raptop> In signature blocks, or...?
[01:32:32] <Lewie> yea. That signature badge thingy
[01:35:35] <raptop> There are some from different competitions etc
[01:35:46] <raptop> well, more challenges than competitions
[01:35:58] <Lewie> huh
[01:36:02] <Lewie> thanks
[01:36:09] <Lewie> how do you enter those?
[01:37:01] <raptop> I'd start with https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/175449-heritage-challengesnew-thread-2-available-for-reboot/
[01:37:23] <Lewie> thanks
[01:37:27] <raptop> uh, lots are very voluntary (do the challenge yourself, post relevant screenshots in the relevant threads, add the images to your sig)
[01:38:05] <Lewie> ok
[01:38:26] <raptop> The 'circle things on the left of the navball' are various SAS modes. What's available depends on pilot skill and what sorts of probe cores are attached.
[01:38:28] <Lewie> I won't be able to post screen shots though. I play on console. :(
[01:38:46] <Lewie> ohh thank you that's incredibly useful to know
[01:38:52] <raptop> I thought modern ones had a screenshot/share button?
[01:38:58] <Lewie> they do
[01:39:13] <Lewie> but I don't know how to add those to the forum
[01:39:21] <raptop> hrm
[01:39:35] <Lewie> yea
[01:42:41] <Lewie> hey, does anyone know the amount of delta v required for a duna trip and the transfer window? the only way I can intrept those are by degrees(for me the mun transfer window is 90, so when the mun is 45 degress to my right I burn till I get an encounter)
[01:43:35] <raptop> There's a ΔV map in the /topic
[01:43:49] <Lewie> ok
[01:44:06] <raptop> https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png
[01:45:48] <raptop> oh, good, https://ksp.olex.biz/ and https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ are still around
[01:46:05] <Lewie> thanks that's really helpfull
[01:46:07] <raptop> What I recall for Duna is that you want it to be 44 degrees ahead of kerbin give or take
[01:46:48] <Lewie> thanks man
[01:51:17] <Lewie> so when Duna is 44 degrees ahead ish I burn till my aproispis interscets with Duna's orbit?
[01:52:55] <raptop> yeah. Though it would also be worth finding a maneuver node tutorial
[01:53:07] <Lewie> ok
[01:53:08] <Lewie> thanks
[01:54:34] <raptop> Are you playing in campaign mode? Because if so, it's worth upgrading the tracking station to unlock patched conics
[01:55:42] <Lewie> nah. I play in sandbox for the time being just so I can practice and get good(ish) at the game 
[01:56:03] <Lewie> and not screw things up
[01:56:07] <raptop> Fair enough
[01:57:02] <Lewie> yea
[01:57:20] <Lewie> so far I'm only able to get to the mun and back
[01:57:25] <Lewie> so yeah.
[01:58:09] <FLHerne> That's a step up from the "get to the Mun and crash into it, killing Jeb" that I was stuck on for a while :P
[01:58:20] <raptop> hah
[01:58:37] <raptop> Oh, uh, watch out for Ike
[01:58:56] <raptop> (We may be going over the magic of course corrections soon, depending on how the initial Duna trips pan out)
[01:59:05] <Lewie> well...I killed Jeb roughly 12 times on my first Mun shot...thank the kraken for quicksave
[02:00:46] <raptop> Good thing kerbals respawn by default
[02:00:56] <raptop> (And of course, there's an endless supply of graysuits)
[02:01:24] <Lewie> nice bro. You a fellow Trekkie?
[02:04:43] <raptop> apparently I was tabbed out for too long
[02:05:39] <raptop> (Incidentally, Abrams killed Star Trek for me, so...)
[02:12:24] <FLHerne> Eh. Into Darkness was awful, the others were silly but fun IMO
[02:12:31] <FLHerne> Not especially Trek-like though
[02:13:39] <raptop> (Note that he did not make the 3rd reboot movie, which I'd call silly but good)
[02:14:01] <raptop> Also, I only saw that one because I was at a friend's house, and he insisted that it was worth watching <_<
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[05:09:18] <JVFoxy> not intentionally trying to min/max my career funds.. more curious more curious how little I can get away with and still get an orbit around the mun.. 
[05:10:30] <JVFoxy> andno.. I'm not good enough to pull crazy miracles 
[07:26:15] <Althego> what, wintergatan
[07:34:27] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erfXf08tuFg
[07:34:28] <kmath> YouTube - Expedition 63 Launch to the International Space Station
[07:40:15] <Althego> why is that bad distorted radio music playing
[08:15:10] <Althego> another 3 humans are in orbit
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[09:06:13] <Mat2ch> Althego: yeah, Martin got into proper ASMR, after ToT screwed with us. :D
[09:38:10] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot184.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot185.png
[10:05:01] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot188.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot187.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot189.png
[11:29:07] <Althego> you found the deserttemple, aka tut-un-jeb-ahn
[11:29:37] <Althego> also the inland space center which has the old models from the very early versions
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[14:11:02] <Althego> docking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1YuAqCTco
[14:11:02] <kmath> YouTube - Soyuz MS-16 Docking LIVE - ISS Expedition 63
[14:13:33] <Althego> wait this must be a second hand stream because there are two idiots talking
[14:22:14] <Mat2ch> that's the NASASpaceflight stream.
[14:22:22] <Mat2ch> and yes, one of them asks stupid questions...
[14:23:26] <Althego> i didnt have tome to switch because the docking was imminent
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[15:13:05] Action: darsie found a monolith.
[15:14:02] <packbart> is it full of stars?
[15:14:20] <darsie> no. It's full of monkey.
[15:14:36] <packbart> ah. Planet of the Squad
[15:15:07] <darsie> mhm
[15:17:00] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot192.png
[15:17:11] <Althego> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot192.png
[15:17:21] <Althego> eh not this
[15:17:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWs3c3YNs4
[15:17:26] <kmath> YouTube - 2001: A Space Odyssey, black monolith
[15:17:44] <darsie> :)
[15:18:08] <darsie> Let's see what's on the crater rim ...
[15:18:56] <Althego> if you turn on the radio signal green lines you will know
[16:04:34] <darsie> I know ...
[16:18:57] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot196.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot197.png
[16:33:12] <UmbralRaptop> 📡
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[16:36:28] <Althego> satellite antenna emoji
[16:43:40] <raptop> The comm network stations are somewhat disapointing
[16:44:49] <Althego> baikerbanur :)
[16:46:03] <raptop> Okay, that one isn't. I'm still sad you need mods to launch from it, though
[16:46:52] <Althego> why was the sagan picture removed?
[16:51:36] <lordcirth> What Sagan picture?
[16:51:46] <raptop> The vallhenge?
[17:00:17] <Althego> according to the wiki on one of the moons of jool there was a picture or sagan
[17:12:04] <lordcirth> https://www.theonion.com/nasa-launches-vengeance-rover-to-pay-back-mars-for-kill-1842750166
[17:12:23] <Althego> hehe
[17:12:32] <Althego> actually it heas a built-in laser :)
[17:12:38] <Althego> to evaporate targets
[17:27:15] <darsie> A monolith evaporated darsie: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot211.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot213.png
[17:28:59] <Althego> hehe
[17:33:34] <Althego> monolith productions used to run on lithtech engine, must be incompatible :)
[17:33:54] Action: raptop blames Duke Nukem, Caleb, and/or Lo Wang
[17:51:59] <darsie> one anomaly left ...
[17:52:21] <Althego> that must be the ufo, because you didny show pictures of it yet
[17:52:58] <darsie> I did, but you weren't here. I'll repost.
[17:53:22] <Althego> iam here 16 hours a day :)
[17:54:12] <darsie> Not long enough :)
[17:55:34] <raptop> The only excuse for being here <24 hours a day is DST
[17:55:42] <Althego> hehe
[17:56:21] <Althego> i could run an irssi on a server or bring in a bot, but would be hard to keep up with 8 hours of stuff
[17:56:29] <Althego> each morning
[17:56:34] <darsie> hmm, I guess you were right.
[17:56:47] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot179.png
[17:56:53] <darsie> Forgot to post that.
[17:57:22] <darsie> raptop: How about leap seconds? :)
[17:58:35] <raptop> That would be >24 hours
[17:58:45] <raptop> So would ending DST (25 hours!)
[18:01:49] <Althego> if the eu lasts that long at least the dst goes away next year
[18:03:32] <Althego> and the uk, of course strategically leaving just in time to keep dst. worst of both world
[18:03:33] <Althego> s
[18:04:03] <raptop> aaaaaa
[18:39:44] <darsie> Last anomaly was a monolith in a magic valley magically surrounded by mountains: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot221.png
[18:40:22] <darsie> Gliding in there was nice :).
[18:40:34] <Althego> why magic?
[18:40:47] <darsie> Cause it's so secluded.
[18:41:36] <darsie> Mystical creatures could live there, never seen before.
[18:41:49] <Althego> some years ago somebody has discovered this https://imgur.com/hn0pHTL
[18:41:49] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/hn0pHTL.jpg
[18:42:00] <darsie> Where evolution has taken a separate branch.
[18:42:25] <darsie> A gray patch of land?
[18:42:34] <darsie> Or that flag?
[18:42:34] <Althego> no, that is water
[18:42:37] <darsie> ah :)
[18:42:54] <darsie> Unfortunately it's not a water biome.
[18:43:02] <Althego> because water is rendered whenever the ground is below zero
[18:43:08] <darsie> mhm
[18:43:11] <darsie> A lake.
[18:43:23] <darsie> A fountain.
[18:43:24] <Althego> that is why duna has the minimum altitude of 500 m
[18:43:44] <Althego> at least i think so
[18:44:13] <lordcirth> I thought there was a per-body toggle of whether water exists
[18:44:19] <Althego> can be
[18:44:27] <Althego> but kind of silly to have a fictional sea level
[18:44:33] <Althego> that is not reachable
[18:45:30] <lordcirth> Well, sea level is partly fictional anyway
[18:45:31] <Althego> around the south pole of kerbin there are some areas where you can land on water :)
[18:45:42] <lordcirth> given that the Earth isn't a perfect sphere 
[18:45:52] <Althego> neither is sea level :)
[18:46:09] <lordcirth> That's what I mean, "sea level" is a varying distance from the center
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[22:36:09] <Guest36925> Hello, i need help.
[22:36:48] <Guest36925> My KSP is stuck at version 1.5.1, what do i do?
[22:50:22] <darsie> upgrade