[04:05:55] Please don't die, Oppy https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7155 [05:16:01] http://www.ibtimes.com.au/university-michigan-researchers-introduce-smallest-autonomous-computer-so-small-it-can-be-injected - If it has some kind of Microsoft operating system, you better fill out your last rites. [05:34:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v mr_flea' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:53:48] hmm.. no playing right now? [08:00:40] i am playing [08:04:27] how goes? Just been flipping through random youtub vids, fighting restlessness [08:19:07] trying a small solid booster on an otherwise ssto to see if it helps conserve delta v by breaking the sound barrier [08:19:11] but it doesnt really [08:22:25] long plane is long http://warpology.com/k/longplane.png [08:22:40] but thanks to the autobalancing in the current game, this is possible [08:23:42] technically it could go to laythe, but no way to return [08:23:51] on its own [08:27:22] cant even go a mun landing and back [08:27:40] cool shadow shape [08:27:57] the good old days when you could go to orbital speeds with jets [08:28:17] some cases even over [08:28:22] had to pitch down to keep from flinging away [09:41:45] https://i.imgur.com/20BesHx.jpg [09:53:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:53:43] i changed the wing to the shuttle one. looks dumb. but now it can make it to the mun and back. potentially [10:01:53] hehe the iss is very close to null island now [11:00:18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERZdMAgbdpA So beautiful :) [11:50:49] hah, it does come back from the mun. 57 m/s remaining with kerbin atmosphere intersection. way overdesigned :) [12:01:19] could relight the jets for a few seconds to clear some dunes [13:58:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:35:23] I'm gonna run KSP 1.4.3 for the first time, since all the bugs are gone. [14:37:55] I hope that it doesnt crash, which will likely happen because my pc is one giant potato :( [14:38:45] I'd be glad to have such a computer. Just cut it to pieces, bury it and collect a dozen new PCs by the end of the year. [14:39:59] You know that i meant that my pc is wweak compared to yours [14:42:40] And i dreamed today that i was making a new mod for KSP, and it was a new fuel type pack... [14:43:44] But why? [14:44:28] I was making a new resource in the mod, i dont remenber what it was. But in that dream i was somehow running KSP at 60 FP [14:45:06] Mat2ch, well remenber when i tried to run 1.4.2? [14:45:40] FPS* [14:46:03] Well it crashed with the expansion. cmon [14:48:09] Well, now the EULA is not the worst thing anymore [14:49:54] GDPR is now the worst thing ever [15:14:52] hi [15:16:44] greetings [15:17:57] (oh, hey, a galaxy) [15:28:30] UmbralRaptor: You are more intelligent then I... think we'll ever leave the local cluster group as a specie (or even one of our creations like a paperclip maximizer)? [15:29:05] ve2dmn: insufficient data [15:29:24] Does the new general catalog only list galaxies? [15:29:50] ... that is the best answer I heard all week [15:29:54] (It relies on assumptions of future projects that I'm unable to meaningfully predict) [15:30:20] darsie: IIRC, there are globular clusters and emission nebulae. [15:30:47] The New General Catalogue of Nebulae and Clusters of Stars (abbreviated as NGC) is a catalogue of deep-sky objects compiled by John Louis Emil Dreyer in 1888. [15:31:07] Is that like the Sears Catalog? Can I order a cluster by mial? [15:31:26] NGC 3982 is a galaxy, though. [15:32:26] % [15:32:42] ^ rather [15:33:11] Hey NGC3982 , returning after 158 joolian orbits huh? [15:33:37] ve2dmn: some shipping and handling required. [15:33:43] GurrenLagannCWP: indeed! [15:34:00] Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/8pbjrb/this_game_has_made_me_realize_that_we_are/e0a7x52/?context=8&depth=9 [15:34:17] darsie: a bit late here, but no, the NG catalogue contains all kind of things. [15:34:32] I know next to nothing about this topic, but I did do the armchair thing in this context. [15:34:34] Well i have a clean 1.4.3 install without the DLC and it gets stuck at the loading screen [15:35:00] Its almost a hour since i booted up KSP 1.4.3 [15:35:04] i actually stopped playing a bit during ther 1.4.n landing gear bug [15:35:09] but now, all seems to be well [15:35:46] For me, KSP locks itself at the loading screen [15:36:03] wasnt that a mod thing? [15:36:08] Action: GurrenLagannCWP starts to rage a bit because if the loading screen [15:36:32] Well its a clean 1.4.3 install, no mods, no DLC [15:36:42] oh, i see. steam? [15:37:32] No because steam doesnt work [15:42:47] That post on reddit is called "This game has made me realize that we are absolutely doomed if we are not alone in the universe" (talking about Stellaris) [15:57:04] hmm, it seems the gog summer sale started [16:01:22] goog [16:01:24] good* [16:13:50] more games we don't play. :D [16:14:51] hehe [16:29:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:31:46] how on earth does one land on Tylo. [17:32:00] i usually do it with reverse staging [17:32:07] i mean discarding stages during landing burn [17:32:35] it needs an insane amount of delta v, because almost as bad as kerbin, but no atmosphere [17:32:44] :(. [17:33:15] i have 13000 units of oxidizer fuel, and from pol to tylo it uses like 10k. [17:33:17] crazy [17:33:18] also must have high thrust [17:34:18] so for an all jool moons mission, tylo should be the first, because that lander is the heaviest [17:35:35] but this is not working at all. [17:35:52] im 5500 meters above tylo in 1900 meters per seconds [17:35:58] hehe [17:36:01] :(. [17:36:07] you need high delta v and high thrust [17:36:14] and have to be really careful [17:36:32] it is so easy to hit the surface with 500 m/s [17:38:17] yeah, i must be to heavy with to low of trust [17:40:58] https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/tylodoesntapprove.PNG [17:40:59] :| [17:41:33] probably barely around 1 twr [17:43:10] i wonder if i can redo the entire mission but add an extra engine at the bottom [17:43:14] but only use it for tylo [17:55:32] i doubt 1 engine would help [17:56:00] the problem with tylo if you dont have high twr, a single mistake a minute before landing could lead to you crashing in the surface [17:56:11] because you need so much time to correct it [17:56:16] NGC3982: MOAR boosters? [17:56:33] do you have the expansion? [17:59:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kc5yGBgp4c [17:59:54] YouTube - All 5 Joolian moons with a single common core [18:00:18] https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-again-world-apos-most-194600393.html [18:00:20] now this was a while back, probably 1.2.2 [18:00:45] and you can see that i messed up the landing on tylo, i flew a bit up at the end, because i panicked and hit full throttle to not hit the surface [18:01:02] i lost probably 200 m/s delta v there. but there was enough margin [18:01:13] i couldnt have made that correction without high twr [18:01:53] I figured out how to land with Mechjeb without landing on TOP of a target craft. When you're close to landing, abort the landing and hit "land somewhere" [18:02:12] i never visited the thing on tylo [18:02:21] partly because it was bugged [18:02:27] maybe i should do it now [18:02:47] but it is tylo. doing a targeted landing on tylo is a nightmare [18:02:58] i never even tried that [18:03:15] but with a rover... [18:03:40] I've never landed on Tylo...I'm afraid of the gravity well heh [18:04:25] Althe, was it unstable at launch with those wings on top? [18:04:44] not really, because of the wings at the bottom :) [18:06:53] What moon is that? it's sort of tilted upwards from the others. [18:07:40] the 2 outer moons are tilted [18:07:49] the 3 inner ones are in a plane [18:07:57] so either pol or bop [18:08:10] Ah, never noticed that, thought you added one heh [18:09:23] What kind of 8-bit fantasy music is that lol [18:09:50] the first one is last ninja 2 central park (C64) remix [18:11:52] I like the sideways fuel tanks, never thought of doing that. [18:13:36] ve2dmn: MOAR. much moar. [18:14:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:16:57] the joy of the human not being capable of understanding big numbers: If I told you that you only have 1 millions seconds to live... would you be scared or not? [18:17:24] hehe i dont know i would need to convert it to years [18:17:41] years? [18:17:48] It's 11.5 days! [18:17:55] that is a tiny number [18:17:59] especially in years [18:18:10] How big do you think a billion seconds is? [18:19:05] (milliards) [18:19:10] ve2dmn: Yes. I usually say I'm 1.5 Gs old. [18:19:17] hehe [18:19:24] :) [18:19:31] darsie: you're... older then me [18:19:44] than ;) [18:20:18] bah. stupid auto-cucumber [18:20:24] hehe [18:20:58] the joy of the human not being capable of understanding big numbers: If I told you that you only have 1 millions seconds to live... would you be scared or not? - I'd firstly tell you to check a thesaurus. 1 MILLION*S*? [18:24:14] Draconiator: I need more then a Thesaurus at this point. I need a brain upgrade [18:25:16] I then to do Random Capitalisation, Typoes of all sorts, and other random errors [18:25:23] (in all languages) [18:25:52] C++, C# and Perl included [18:26:28] https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/2027/20276/202767/20276708_51c40032755a32f8c0410b72700ea2ec_wm.gif [18:26:37] 32 stuntmen on fire [18:29:27] https://i.gyazo.com/4610d97ee6e2eaf9fbc2db702183ad47.png - Trying my own Tylo mission. [18:33:44] Ended up being nearly perfect as far as the first stage fuel exhaustion. [18:36:12] Now the problem is that Tylo gravity assist. [18:39:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:44:31] I seem to be going the tratectory you did, encountering Jool jusrt after Sun apo [18:49:22] What are some of your favorite songs of all time? [18:50:38] THRILLEREEEE [18:59:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:01:26] cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJvRYtjQ4c [19:01:27] YouTube - [SIGGRAPH 2018] Mode-Adaptive Neural Networks for Quadruped Motion Control [19:02:12] https://i.gyazo.com/b6a575b3f5e4c012faba358205df67cc.png - I always bring along a spare comm stage on my missions too. [19:08:15] Ran out of fuel too, but alt-12 ing the landing so I can design a better mission. [19:09:03] ah the good old decouplers [19:09:08] i miss those old ones [19:09:17] i always likes these the best [19:09:41] the shape, the empty space in the middle to store stuff, and the satisfying sound [20:00:30] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:16:00] Anyone good with linux? [20:16:22] How come when I do "crontab -e" I get the "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" line at the top? [20:16:34] I'm pretty sure that wouldn't help, because we have a very special case of Linux here [20:16:40] This is Gentoo, for what it's worth [20:17:10] Gentoo, with a Shell account on a system we can't provide setup information about, because we don't have it [20:21:50] Saw a jet flying over and ran inside to see what it was - https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD140...never heard of that airline before. [20:22:38] Drac, link is borked? [20:22:52] https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD140 [20:22:54] :P [20:36:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:40:54] Do computers in space all use ECC memory? [21:41:02] Mission critical type [21:58:55] Blaank: depends :D [22:01:28] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jSKOMLrQg - My GPU fan does this....worn bearings probably? [22:02:15] The noise thing, not the hesitation [22:03:55] bearings or blades rubbing somewhere [22:04:43] probably bad bearing. [22:05:27] It's a crap cooler, you'd do yourself and your CPU a lot of favors getting a different one. I can recommend some if you want. [22:05:49] Straight replacements would be like $15 shipped. [22:05:53] Those things are everywhere. [22:06:06] I can record it via Ipad, I'll be back, it only does it if it's turned off for a bit. [22:06:20] How old is it? [22:07:05] the GPU? It's an Nvidia Geforce GT610, I bought in 2014. [22:07:10] oof [22:07:21] I could finally open height maps [22:07:27] Using GIMP [22:09:04] GPU prices are coming back down. You could get a GT 1050 to replace it. It's as low as modern stuff really goes http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-GT-610/3650vsm7736 [22:09:27] RX 500 series can't match it at least for current prices. [22:13:36] And sorry, I was earlier talking about CPU coolers, didn't realize you meant GPU making that noise. [22:14:16] It's very unlikely it's fan flex or it would have done that since day one. It's probably a bad bearing. If you don't mind the noise, run it till it siezes up. There's no real fixing them. [22:35:22] I love that Ovok's height map is only a white blur on a black background. [22:41:52] Action: NGC3982 is still trying to land on tylo., [22:50:43] Hey NGC3982 [22:51:23] Action: GurrenLagannCWP sees KSP crash for another time after launching it with OPM [22:54:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:58:14] GurrenLagannCWP: bummer. [23:08:08] ok, retrying. i know i can make it now. reached a few hundred meters above the surface of tylo before i ran out of fuel [23:08:15] so going to pol first for refuel [23:09:54] Stupid iOS app didn't record some of it, but this is what my GPU fan does at first. it goes away after a minute. https://app.box.com/s/i8hbx8pps6vtqpgyeoovlrtgf5yzuadd [23:13:25] Draconiator: that first video does not look like a gpu. you are talking about the cpu, perhaps? [23:14:49] pwm controlled fans can create some friction when running in different non-standard modes. these can for instance be when the computer starts, and your motherboard uses a default (low) pwm value before. [23:18:05] His GPU makes that same sound. [23:18:51] even after the computer has booted properly? [23:22:53] Well right now it's no making any noise. [23:22:59] *not [23:25:51] boot up sounds that are not entirely "air going trough the fan" is nothing unusual [23:48:55] Hard drive is going to last a whiole, I always try to keep it under 40c