[00:03:51] about to incline the orbit [00:04:12] ahh wat [00:04:34] you feel like quickly finishing the last part of the manual of the rocket? [00:06:49] sigh [00:06:56] wrong spot to warp to x-x [00:11:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:12:42] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:12:42] i forgot how to incline my orbits [00:13:10] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:16:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:18:51] raptop hehe [00:21:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:24:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:24:40] how do i incline an orbit? [00:25:25] ok then [00:25:53] Burn ±normal at the ascending / descending node of your target orbit (where it intersects with the current one) [00:26:24] how do i enable node view? [00:27:04] oh those purple triangles [00:27:11] thanks UmbralRaptor [00:41:23] parabolas are all the same shape right? [00:42:42] im asking again because I want to make the parabola based sight and I gave up on CADing the parabola [00:43:56] transitbiker when is your next stream? [00:44:08] tomorrow hopefully [00:44:19] nice the manual should be ready by then [00:44:41] don't think I have any new planes however [00:44:49] did you test the last ones I sent you btw? [00:44:52] i got a survival situation set up in minecraft [00:44:58] i dont remember [00:45:26] its been a long month or 2, literally everyone got sick but me and i had to take care of everyone and everything by myself [00:45:33] I should make a folder dedicated to stuff I send you [00:45:47] well that sucks [00:45:50] is it better now? [00:46:19] kids got flu back to back then girlfriend got flu, then her daughter got stomach bug x-x [00:46:35] yeah, but stomach bug still ongoing [00:46:56] is it the sort of worm inside that eats your food? [00:47:09] no haha, like puking on the toilet etc [00:47:14] fun times x-x [00:47:21] heh [00:47:35] peoples were worried I had one of those because im quite skinny [00:47:38] but I don't [00:48:47] i was skinny-ish then my bike rear wheel wore out so i gained like 25 lbs [00:54:35] I have a photo of my dad when he was my age [00:54:40] looked exactly like me [00:54:47] so I can kinda expect to age like my dad [00:54:54] and he's still a bit skinny [01:01:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:37:37] so the new drive I'm getting to replace this one is a solid state hybrid. [02:31:26] Hi. [02:32:18] So I think I'm going to start a science game with generally the same difficulty settings as my current, to mess with stuff but also to test craft designs for the "main" game. [02:32:27] Anything I should be aware of? [03:47:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NT8BMOLvBk [03:47:14] YouTube - 10 New Technologies That Will Make You A Cyborg! [04:13:47] & do my glasses make me a cyborg? [04:15:16] UmbralRaptop: hmm, I guess so [04:18:33] it's an ocular augmentation. I assume you never asked for this. [04:18:49] I want glasses that let me zoom in on stuff [04:19:13] But as soon as any sort of display tech is used in glasses, be prepared for ads. [04:20:55] Well I certainly never asked for that. [04:21:04] Does a wristwatch make me a cyborg? [04:23:47] Action: UmbralRaptop vaguely wishes that Deus Ex had gotten a sequel. [04:47:00] So part changes: a lot of names became more consistent for decouplers/separators, and the xenon tanks got mass ratios buffed plus all made the same? [04:48:53] Lots of localization fixes, it looks like? [04:56:26] ISS Urine Tank Level: 42% [05:13:14] cringe: wat [05:15:41] thought that was pretty self explanatory [05:16:03] why tho [05:16:15] you'd have to ask them [05:16:33] but why post that here [05:16:48] it's semi-relevant i suppose [05:17:10] you wanna know the clean water tank level instead? [05:18:27] not really, no [05:18:30] maybe how much O2 is being produced by wastewater recycling? [05:19:14] how about the average sol-side power output of the ISS solars [05:19:35] i'm just ethos man, what you see is what you get [05:21:00] i can hook you up with some spartan data tho i suppose [05:21:21] https://isslive.com/displays/spartanDisplay1.html [06:21:45] Arcan: it's more relevant that pixel art and card game referral links. [06:39:01] https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01985/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_573716330EDR_F0680772NCAM00251M_.JPG [09:59:11] Didn't realize how close I was to VAB level 2. https://imgur.com/a/kgGpa [09:59:12] https://i.imgur.com/1smUaUI.png [09:59:54] Now to see if spacey parts will let me actually make more profit from my tourist orbiting vehicle... [10:35:44] Updated: https://imgur.com/a/kgGpa [10:41:34] Sorry, laptop was unplugged. [10:41:57] Anyhow, how dumb of an idea is that? [10:51:10] https://imgur.com/a/kgGpa [11:20:16] I did add some brainstorming in a Reddit comment. I won't spam the group again, but do appreciate advice :) https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/835x0n/how_dumb_of_an_idea_is_this/ [12:20:41] TheKosmonaut: true, very true [12:20:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:44:32] so my 3d printer filament was delivered [12:44:49] but instead of delivering it at my home like I wanted it's in a twon 10km away from me [12:50:21] Fluburtur: wot [12:50:40] mailman no read instructions [12:52:35] yes, happens to us all the time [13:13:01] Fluburtur, send a quadcopter to go and pick it up [13:29:49] Hello [13:31:02] hi Mod9000 [13:31:12] they are pretty good, ty, how about you ? [13:31:15] Hello there Kleenex [13:31:20] hi Deddly [13:31:24] I love the user name [13:31:28] lol [13:31:36] Got a cold? [13:31:41] yeah, a b it different [13:31:53] nah, was looking for a nick, and i had a box of kleenex on my desk [13:31:59] Or are you crying for joy over 1.4? ;) [13:32:01] lol [13:32:04] haha yeah :P [13:32:21] yes, newb questions, what does ksp stand for? [13:32:30] Aha [13:32:33] oh i just read the topic LOL [13:32:39] KSP ? Kerbal Space Program [13:32:42] ty ty [13:32:54] i guess my mind was in space [13:33:05] So you've never played it? [13:33:23] I dont know what it is LOL [13:33:32] i'll check it out [13:33:55] Hehe. Wow, well welcome to the channel. You're probably the only to find the channel without already knowing what KSP is :P [13:34:07] lol ty [13:34:13] Imagine if you could build working rockets out of lego [13:34:19] I whoised people and I saw many were here [13:34:21] That's KSP [13:34:27] would be super cool [13:34:42] https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/ [13:34:43] I used to have a lego and mechano set long time ago [13:34:50] ty Deddly I'll check it out [13:35:00] KSP = Lego rockets. With real physics [13:35:29] very intersting ! [13:35:40] Or planes you make yourself with individual pieces that respond fairly realistically to drag, lift and centre of mass etc [13:36:05] wow [13:36:11] i'm going to have to bring a friendhere soon [13:36:23] he's a lego master, he even goes to all the lego events [13:36:27] A word of warning: Many people got it through Steam and can see how many thousand hours they have played it over the years... best turn off that function on Steam ;) [13:36:38] ok [13:36:47] lol [13:36:50] best not to know [13:37:21] So it's not exactly lego, but you get the idea that you stick bits together to make a whole craft of your own design [13:37:26] is this channel related to dalnet or snoonet? [13:37:40] yeah I see Deddly , thanks [13:37:55] sorry , I meant, network, not channel [13:38:04] Ah, I was gonna say :P [13:38:09] Ummm [13:38:25] I actually don't know. I think it's independent. Zarthus knows [13:38:30] If he's around [13:38:36] ok np [13:39:01] Why do you think it might be related to the other networks? [13:39:41] good question, I just want to make sure its not LOL [13:39:51] https://esper.net/ [13:40:27] ty [13:41:05] pretty standard small IRC network stuff [13:41:13] nice and cozy [13:41:34] Thanks VanDisaster [13:41:37] ohhh it says you have over 4000 users logged on [13:42:04] It does? [13:42:07] yeah [13:42:10] Where? [13:42:11] when i log in it said that [13:42:16] I'll paste one sec [13:42:25] VanDisaster: we're hardly a small network [13:42:38] i'm pretty sure we're one of the biggest ones :P [13:42:40] :Current global users 4443, max 6124 [13:42:44] Oh right, in the welcome text [13:42:50] Current local users 1003, max 1668 08:20 Current global users 4495, max 6124 [13:42:56] thats it gasher [13:43:04] well, I guess [13:43:12] haven't gone around checking infrastructure for some time [13:43:29] no biggie [13:43:31] Pretty sure Esper is one of the smaller ones [13:43:41] smaller than undernet and quakenet [13:44:00] i think quakenet is the biggest, not sure [13:44:14] quakenet has 11k channels currently [13:44:18] wow thats alot [13:44:22] many are dead though [13:44:33] oh yeah, there's more people in here than the biggest one [13:44:37] I mean, no chatting [13:44:43] 6k clients on quakenet [13:44:46] oh ok [13:44:53] I went to the store [13:45:04] this means that im now loaded with filament! [13:45:18] undernet says 14000 users [13:45:47] can i hide my host if i register [13:46:55] Unfortunately I don't think hiding the host is possible in IRC [13:47:05] if the network supports it you can mask it [13:47:07] quakenet does that [13:47:08] Registering will protect your nick though [13:47:17] ok, thanks [13:47:20] Really? OK That's pretty nice, VanDisaster [13:47:27] I guess 'll just use a secure connection [13:47:38] undernet too VanDisaster does it [13:47:41] sorry, freenet is the biggest [13:47:45] dunno why i thought it was esper [13:47:50] freenet is enormous [13:47:51] freenet? or freenode? [13:47:55] freenode even [13:47:56] *freenode [13:47:57] never heard of freenet [13:47:58] oh ok [13:48:02] mistyped [13:48:09] yeah freenode is big true, and still good for tech stuff [13:48:13] i don't like freenode though, but that's just me [13:48:19] According to Wikipedia, Freenode is the biggest, but that's 2016 information [13:48:25] its a bit boring there , I know [13:48:29] ok [13:49:18] ah, efnet, how you've fallen [13:49:24] Deddly: i doubt that's changed, given the page i'm looking at lists them as twice as many users as the second biggest during peak hours [13:49:26] wow you're right cherryh.freenode.net- 92883 96600 :Current global users 92883, max 96600 [13:49:28] holy moley [13:49:39] Anyway... Esper is the best because it has #KSPOfficial [13:49:43] kewl [13:49:57] its quality, not quantity, I agree on that [13:51:35] i can't believe freenode has over 90000 users, thats unreal [13:52:52] there are youtube channels with 1 million subscribers [13:52:57] that's really unreal :P [13:53:31] What's REALLY unreal is that many people these days never even heard of IRC [13:53:55] yes, and irc is soo great I think [13:53:57] blame discord, which is an ironic name... [13:54:02] real time, and you get to meet people from all over [13:54:08] irc isn't flashy enough [13:54:13] I guess [13:54:15] they all like FB [13:54:19] which i'm not a member of [13:54:31] I just use a multiprotocol client & all of them [13:54:44] Kleenex, if you want to try KSP, there's a free demo. It's a really old one, but it does give you an idea of what the game it like [13:54:53] is* [13:54:54] discord is kinda bad though [13:55:00] yeah, that would be a great way to start Deddly [13:55:03] i like my minimalist chat thank you [13:55:04] where do i find it? [13:55:11] I'm unimpressed with how much it falls over :p [13:55:12] and i do recommend the demo as well [13:55:15] Mod9000, where's the demo please? [13:55:17] miranda has a discord plugin [13:55:24] thanks guys [13:55:26] NP [13:55:53] I have to go to work now, but I'll download it after I get back, Nice chatting ! see yas later [13:56:51] Good bot. Got the conversation started all by itself ;) [14:04:22] (Updated "rules" to a more up-to-date version, if you're curious) [15:35:00] https://78.media.tumblr.com/6846781bdd3c4e76c6ad38fc63477941/tumblr_p5ardxKctu1vu0cnmo1_500.jpg [15:39:04] Fluburtur, sometimes I wonder if it would be a bad thing if students at my school had admin rights [15:39:34] all the PCs would have steam installed with some moron still logged in [15:39:35] it wouldn't [15:39:54] you can do super stupid stuff even without admin rights so imagine with [15:40:01] GlassYuri: the computers would also probably be full of malware [15:41:06] the freemail provider I've been using since I was in primary school just sent out "new: send animated messages!" [15:41:30] I speak from experience [15:41:32] that message would have been appropriate like five to ten years before I signed up [15:42:57] Funny. The official Microsoft Outlook Android app is blocked at work, but I can use VMware Boxer to do the same thign [15:43:05] ve2dmn, I like to think that we are not the most incompetent PC users [15:44:22] GlassYuri: I'm sure 90% are competent. It takes only 1 person to infect the network [15:45:40] Source: our last outbreak of crypto-malware [15:56:11] Ok, this is dumb. The reason the official client is blocked is because it uses the user agent 'Outlook-iOS-Android/1.0' while the 3rd party app uses 'Outlook' [15:58:28] So if you are honest you are blocked, but if you lie they let you in.... [16:00:16] ve2dmn, that's literally the purpose of lying [16:01:09] I know. I'm rewarded for lying, after I tried being honest and got punished. [16:02:37] It just feels backwards [16:03:15] ...why does JSON not allow comments [16:22:00] bwoop [16:22:09] ksp livestream today [16:22:20] when? [16:22:22] been a while, but i have some good treats for all to see [16:22:35] once i'm done my breakfast, i guess i should call it brunch hehe [16:23:09] btw this is the manual for the rocket, don't open it before the stream https://docs.google.com/document/d/1evlV8b5IQX8zfoL6flQkF_3B2TG7UUSwUkYbnHTPeF4/edit?usp=sharing [16:23:42] should send that directly to you in private so you don't lose it [16:23:47] yes [16:25:33] hmmm [16:25:42] any fix on the 1.4 yet? [16:26:10] As per topic Fluburtur [16:26:14] 1.4.1 hotfix Soon" [16:26:20] Errr. I meant kubi [16:26:24] Sorry Fluburtur [16:26:27] what's wrong with 1.4? [16:26:30] :) [16:26:38] transitbiker: just a couple of bugs here and there [16:26:39] gui glitches [16:26:41] The usual [16:26:45] at least [16:26:49] oh [16:27:00] editor glitch is bearable [16:27:08] transitbiker: one I thought I saw immediately was that the IVA on the Mk 1-3 pod doesn't work [16:27:24] And there are no portraits either [16:27:30] items that are in research tree node not shown on the right side [16:27:37] yeah, portraits too [16:27:39] Avast, a BadRocketsCO appears off the starboard bow! [16:27:51] what was new in the 1.4? [16:27:58] transitbiker: new Unity [16:28:09] transitbiker: some part updates. Updating unity (thank God) [16:28:26] i hsould get a graphics card for this computer so the cpu can do only cpu things [16:28:48] amd apu, with a dust collector heatsink [16:29:08] TheKosmonaut: ahoy! [16:29:13] i should probably get a better heatsink too, and more memory [16:29:24] Action: TheKosmonaut turns broadside against BadRocketsCO [16:29:28] Fire! [16:29:37] my yogurt is bad [16:29:43] transitbiker: or a better computer. [16:29:49] you big meanie :D [16:29:50] You keep adding parts to this list. Haha [16:29:59] well, at least i caughti early before i ate the whole thing [16:30:16] transitbiker: I´m bad! [16:30:16] not my computer [16:30:16] Action: UmbralRaptop fires a spread of torpedoes at TheKosmonaut [16:30:16] hay BadRocketsCO [16:30:20] howdy [16:30:26] what´s up? [16:30:39] i could get a case fantoo [16:30:41] transitbiker: what flavor yogurt [16:30:46] about to do a ksp livestream in a bit [16:30:56] greek yogurt, apple cinnimon [16:31:34] UmbralRaptop: see. I'm on a galleon but you're showing up with either a sub or a Galaxy class. That isn't fair. [16:31:45] transitbiker: mmm [16:32:17] Made buffalo wings for this bar I'm working at. We sold out in just a couple of hours. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fAimaDjw/C57BA0CF-8B5F-4F8D-A839-797BAEA5F4D3.JPG [16:32:28] >_> [16:33:25] I had originally applied there for just weekends as a bartender. I wanted to learn cocktails and stuff. But then the chef was deported and I was field promoted to the main chef [16:33:59] So I tossed out the previous menu because it was rubbish and will do wings, pulled pork sandwiches, and a few other things [16:34:21] what did they do? hand out business card rudely? o.o [16:34:52] transitbiker: for deportation? Well I dunno. It wasn't my business what the guy did wrong. But the government told him to go back to the UK [16:35:21] He left within 24h though so it must have been serious [16:36:01] woah [16:37:37] the 2 biggest mistakes any food serving establishment can make are sticking to unsuccessful menu, and not keeping the place very clean, i think 3 would be not sourcing proper ingredients, and 4 improper storage of food/food safety issues [16:37:53] customer service is not as important as you may think [16:37:55] Looks like 1.4's out, I haven't had a chance to play. Has anyone noticed anything different? [16:38:16] Anything that wasn't shouted out like the parachutes, I mean. [16:38:24] parachutes? [16:38:30] i'm still on 1.3 [16:38:45] Personal parachutes are allegedly in the most recent update, according to Scott Manley. [16:38:46] there's a mechanism for alternative paint [16:38:51] i learned after 1.0 to wait till the bugs are hashed out [16:38:52] Your guy has to be level 3 to have 'em. [16:39:15] [alternative paint] Ah, so you can mix and match levels of gear and not have Apollo black-and-white clash with Shuttle ET Orange? [16:39:50] yes, some models have alternates already, I noticed [16:40:29] There was a rumor that some parts would be "different". My personal interest is in IVAs, so I'm curious as to how that plays out. [16:41:05] TheKosmonaut: now I'm hungry :P [16:41:07] almost done meal [16:41:32] i'm going to have to have some toasted brioche with butter and honey, since my yohgurt was a no-go [16:42:17] In three hours I have to give a presentation on a nonexistent material which would be used in yogurt lids to keep consumers informed as to the health of the probiotics inside. [16:42:38] i wonder who will become the new bass for pentatonix [16:42:56] that would be incredible, for all dairy and grain products, eggs too [16:43:25] would save a lot of illness and waste, like warn that a thing is about to spoil so it can be used [16:44:12] The biochemistry and microbiology folks here are a number of years out, but that's a serious product idea. [16:45:04] transparent nanotube cages containing a sample, with some kind of interactive pathogenic molecular detector [16:45:46] so once your sample starts to turn, something will give off a chemical that would change the color from clear to something else [16:46:43] Not nanotubes but films, and yes the detector is "designed" to detect the metabolites which result from lysis of beneficial organisms [16:46:49] transitbiker: Well those three points I really do agree with [16:46:52] er, 4 [16:46:56] you could apply this to grains, as grains are one of the things that are most disposed of due to rot [16:47:15] spray-on edible detection agents [16:47:23] Spray on gets expensive, grain has high surface area. [16:47:36] The previous chef was not sourcing well, would frequently be inebriated on the job, and he did not maintain a good level of cleanliness [16:48:01] I may be kinda alienating the other people for the moment because I am all over them every time they leave something dirty [16:48:03] TheKosmonaut: is there a rating system where you are? [16:48:11] a clean eatery is often a sign of a well run business and kitchen [16:48:18] ve2dmn: yeah, though I don think it needs to be displayed openly [16:48:20] If those other people are your coworkers, you are doing your business a service if you chase away the dirty folks. [16:48:27] Mathuin: That too [16:48:37] unlike, says, NYC? [16:48:40] There's this guy there, I can tell we wont get along. [16:48:52] He told me "Jarred salsa is cheaper than fresh-made" [16:49:17] I told him that is 100% wrong, and if you tell the customers it's being made fresh today they will want it more. He said nobody would buy. [16:49:18] Sold out [16:49:29] I made those hot wings, he said nobody would eat that. [16:49:32] Sold out. [16:49:50] if we could create and perfect spoilage indicators for packaged/stored foods, we could save a few hundred billion dollars a year if not more [16:50:11] He told me there are no butchers in the area, took me 15 minutes and now I have a butcher that's gonna get me a deal on some pigs trotters that I'll use for hogshead [16:50:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHHxPjp_Fsg [16:50:13] YouTube - Arianespace VS18 - Live Launch (EN) [16:50:33] He also told me no bread, I went early and found a local baker [16:50:41] I mean.. people put no effort into it [16:50:47] TheKosmonaut: why? does he hates you? [16:50:59] and we could prevent lots of food-borne illnesses [16:51:01] ve2dmn: He just doesnt seem to like his job [16:51:03] Some folks don't see the ROI on efforts. [16:51:11] TheKosmonaut: that would explain [16:51:56] On some level, I'm kind of like that. I have a job not a carreer. [16:52:15] But then, I try not to annoy my coworkers who do have a carreer and not a job [16:52:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:52:31] He was constantly negging me the whole evening. I told him eventually to stop talking to me and he would just keep going [16:52:40] properly sourced from local is not just good for you, but the local economy overall, and the end consumers benefit from having higher quality thing available to them [16:52:46] When the wings sold out he said "Oh well japanese poeple dont know the difference anyway I guess" [16:53:11] Even looking that everyone ordered seconds, he refused to acknowledge that maybe I did something right. [16:53:20] Anyway, the owner came in later and was thrilled [16:53:32] there's that economic theory that if i help others do well while helping myself do well, all benefit, more-so than every for themselves [16:54:13] transitbiker: properly sourced from local can also decrease transportation costs and environmental impact. [16:54:27] indeed, it's really the way to go [16:54:47] it's how we survived before globalistic commerce [16:54:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:54:55] If your local infrastructure can support it, it's a great plan. Nobody needs to go suborbital. [16:54:56] transitbiker: it works, up to a point. Sometimes you can't justify the price difference. But It's still a very good baseline [16:55:49] well, that then enters into survival of the most viable business plan for any given situation [16:56:48] yeah... I've been seeing too much "tragedy of the commons" in the last few days to have an optimist overview :( [16:56:55] fortune cookies were invented in nyc by a man who wanted his new restaurant to stand out, especially with delivery orders [16:57:16] Action: ve2dmn hope it's just him [16:57:28] the company is still in business, operating out of brooklyn [16:57:30] Fortune cookies were invented in CA.. [16:57:43] nah it was nyc [16:57:54] The HKG Noodle Co. [16:58:02] the guy came from california as an immigrant from china [16:58:04] in 1918 [16:58:16] TheKosmonaut: by chinese workers who tried to re-create Japanese things without really knowing much about them [16:58:29] nahhhhh it was totally nyc [16:58:59] transitbiker: https://www.ted.com/talks/jennifer_8_lee_looks_for_general_tso [16:59:29] ok who is ted and why does he have to talk so much [16:59:33] :D [16:59:34] transitbiker: lol k [16:59:39] If you can cite that, that'd be great [16:59:57] countdown resumed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHHxPjp_Fsg [16:59:57] YouTube - Arianespace VS18 - Live Launch (EN) [17:00:29] all i'm saying, is that the first commercial application of the fortune cookie was in nyc... as a business model to make money [17:00:32] Though, Hong Kong Noodle Co's claim is disputed by a Japanese establishment [17:00:47] oo a rocket? [17:00:58] ye a nice soyuz [17:01:15] dat fairing tho [17:01:26] does it come with 4 settings? [17:02:23] Wait, Soyuz leaves from somewhere other than Asia? [17:02:24] According to a court ruling by a federal judge, Makoto Hagiwara is credited with the invention of fortune cookies in their modern incarnation [17:02:28] Or Arianespace does business with Russia? [17:03:39] Wow, they ship it?!?! [17:03:48] japan is infamous for IP protectionism [17:04:12] transitbiker: Good thing he was in San Francisco then [17:04:19] At the Japanese Tea Garden [17:04:31] probably stemming from decades of being sterotyped and overlooked as a true innovator outside of tyhe tech sector [17:05:42] Five minutes [17:05:56] "i like this ship, it's exciting" [17:05:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:06:25] transitbiker: That's still one of my favorite lines from nuTrek movies [17:06:35] Simon Pegg will always have a place in my heart. [17:06:37] hehehe [17:07:05] The wife and I are rewatching Star Trek TOS and didn't realize that there really was some Spock-Uhura undercurrents. [17:07:30] well yeah [17:07:31] I'm really looking forward to S2 of Discovery [17:07:53] the reboot has a huge amount of nods to the original series, you realyl gotta know trek to catch them all [17:08:09] It's nice to come across them and connect the dots. [17:08:36] Action: UmbralRaptop prefers to assume that the only AbramsTrek that happened were the 3rd movie, and 15 minutes of the first. [17:08:57] Last night was The Naked Time, which she knew was the inspiration for The Naked Now in TNG. [17:09:01] ready the giant matchsticks [17:09:03] UmbralRaptop: At the very least, they probably helped to get DSC greenlit. [17:09:10] TNG only keeps the sugar-goes-alcohol-in-high-gravity, but it was still pretty sweet. [17:09:19] Mathuin: YOu need to show her the Gorn [17:09:30] We're doing it in order, one or two episodes a night, and reading Memory Alpha after. [17:09:34] because that's the pinnacle of reptilian - human fighting [17:09:44] there is a mission chef????? [17:09:46] :D [17:09:48] Less than one minute to launch. [17:10:12] south america ftw [17:10:26] Colonialism is the only way Europe can get equatorial launches. :-) [17:10:46] decollage! [17:10:48] SeaLaunch! [17:10:58] wow the sound [17:11:07] *considers a spaceport in Bermuda* [17:11:26] Ecuador is not only a good latitude but also super high up, that's gotta help [17:12:16] We are spoiled by SpaceX with the onboard cameras. [17:12:33] (Someone in the YT chat asked if Arianespace had them) [17:12:49] Oh they do!! [17:12:53] And they fall off just like mine. :-) [17:12:59] Their boosters. :-) [17:13:17] dat cross doe [17:17:40] wew [17:17:51] I have to get back to work, I could watch that all day. [17:18:13] interesting to see a tropical area while ther is snow on rooftops and lawns and whatnot outside here [17:18:58] brb, when i get back livestream time [17:23:03] KSP live! https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [17:23:35] read the manual! [17:25:23] Is MaxQ for stock rockets around 1 kps? That's where I always have controllability issues. [17:26:27] I think it's air-pressure-specific [17:27:50] thanks [17:27:59] it's speed*air density basically [17:28:38] craft work inside a specific speed/altitude etc range in atmosphere [17:28:50] ok, so dealing with it is avoided by accelerating slowly, or a higher trajectory? [17:29:07] just throttle back a bit until you get into less dense air [17:29:10] (and yes, this is about my cheap tourism thing) [17:29:30] or install FAR & get a dynamic pressure readout :P [17:29:34] part of me is totally going "launching with THAT MUCH rocket is a bad idea", but the numbers look sane if I back off the first stage. [17:29:37] I do have FAR. [17:29:53] there's a Q figure on the data panel then [17:29:56] I'm 90% MJ/KER will also give you pressure data [17:30:11] ah. I'm fairly sure I didn't notice that. [17:30:22] I don't tend to use flight data with rockets except for tweaking reentry angle, thanks. [17:30:26] ayyy transitbiker my favorite kspofficial denizen [17:30:52] https://imgur.com/a/kgGpa <-- "cheap tourist thing". [17:31:07] (Also, cheap heavy lift launcher for later, with a few modifications?) [17:31:55] https://flic.kr/p/KzcQNG - Dyn Pres [17:32:21] it's also down by the navball, I can't remember which mod that is [17:32:52] I have ideas in mind for improvements, but those mostly require either breaking the 30 part wall or removing fuel tanks. [17:33:16] (Could double check, but the part count is reduced pretty much as far as it can be with 1.25m as the "standard" tank) [17:34:32] transitbiker tell me when you get to read the manual [17:34:42] internet is laggy for now so I can't watch all of your stream [17:35:58] ok [17:39:22] I seem to have some interesting early career stuff from the only time I did it... [17:39:30] https://flic.kr/p/HDsRcw I'm sure that seemed like a good idea [17:42:22] nice. [17:42:40] https://flic.kr/p/HHePwt makes good screenshots at least :p [17:43:09] I'm sure that's SO NOT what that SpaceY booster is "for", but the numbers look good, and I like the vaguely-Shuttle aesthetic (though it's a fully disposable 'canned-ham' ship) [17:43:37] reminds me of a stealth bomber. [17:45:11] https://flic.kr/p/HMv6n1 that's the cheap option :p [17:45:23] mk2 cockpit, engine, one SRB [17:45:39] recoverable [17:45:59] Nice. [17:46:26] (I was saying SpaceY with mine.) [17:46:48] I never make crazy things, only normal-looking things. [17:48:08] I have no idea what makes something crazy [17:48:30] I thought this was crazy due to the solid fuel fraction. [17:48:50] (without thrust limiting, it got to something silly like 4G on the pad, forget if that was with the "first" stage engine or not) [17:48:51] I wanted to see if it'd get there using a single srb [17:50:08] https://flic.kr/p/AUHjmq ok that might be a bit crazy [17:50:08] I know with stock parts, you can get 2 tonnes or so into a fairly high trajectory with 2. [17:50:14] having to go back a long way :p [17:50:39] how do you land it? [17:50:51] brutally [17:50:55] ah. [17:51:44] I'm pretty sure solid fuel to orbit is possible in stock. [17:52:01] Probably easier with FAR, if anything. [17:52:21] dunno what stock aero is likethe last couple of versions [17:52:28] last time I tried it was still pretty gooey [17:52:31] Got a Scott Manley reference on the loading screen [17:52:57] scott is the god of the kerbals [17:53:00] it is only fair [17:53:23] It says: Flying Safe... [17:53:26] https://flic.kr/p/weoXeb Things Which Fly Which You Think Shouldn't [17:54:10] still not terribly crazy [17:54:15] I guess I don't do really whacky stuff :( [17:56:00] hehehe [17:56:39] I'm back! [17:56:47] https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [17:56:53] livestreaming [17:57:38] I'll come check ya out! [17:57:57] Finally a english KSP live [17:58:41] Just wait me install OPM-Galilleo on CKAN [18:02:46] https://flic.kr/p/pGeTF5 uh, maybe the odd whacky thing [18:03:11] https://flic.kr/p/p2MKFb apparently got it to orbit somehow [18:09:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:10:06] Welcome back [18:11:41] Hi ! [18:12:17] ve2dmn: s [18:13:00] Well, since nobody mentioned huge concerns, I think I'm going to do a flight of that tourist craft. If it works, I'll tighten the delta-V margins in a few places, and it should be fairly useful if anything. [18:19:20] NOTHING WORKS WITH MY KSP [18:20:03] I MEAN NO MODS THAT USES KOPERNICUS WORKS [18:21:55] and that's why you're typing all in caps so we have a hard time reading it? [18:25:37] I cant handle the fact that no mods that uses Kopernicus works. I tested with OPM-Galileo. [18:26:15] KopernicusExamples crashes my game [18:26:39] I know that with KSS I need to use a specific older version mentioned in the mod thread. [18:26:45] GurrenLagannCWP: what version of KSP are you playing? [18:27:04] I just downloaded that and deleted the folder for the CKAN version of Kopernicus. [18:27:17] 1.3.1 [18:28:10] Pakaran: I tried that [18:28:45] If I want to start a science game in the same state as my "real" game, can I just copy the entire save folder and edit the game type to "science"? [18:29:01] Or do I need to delete funds, current missions, etc? No flights are currently in progress. [18:29:25] i wish OPM was working for me [18:29:36] I have never tried to change state. [18:29:48] I've copied ships over, but never anything more. [18:30:02] one punch man works for no one :) [18:30:05] thanks, I'll just play the game until I have the science. [18:30:19] Althego: YOU AGAIN [18:30:28] alright, loading the tourist craft for its first flight. [18:30:35] KSP LIVE!! :D https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [18:31:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:31:56] lol that plane [18:32:13] only transitbiker could have come up with something like this [18:34:37] Althego: I had installed Kopernicus via CKAN, and it still doesnt work [18:35:20] The Kopernicus issue in question, is it not working at all, or is it that the terrain around the SC borders is weirdly "mismatched"? [18:35:29] I was actually just reminded of that during my test launch: [18:36:01] https://imgur.com/a/XjVRN [18:36:02] https://i.imgur.com/Y0251nG.png [18:36:08] don't know if it's clear with all the shit I have open [18:36:42] ...sorry for language, I know better. [18:37:44] its not working at all [18:38:27] GurrenLagannCWP: screenshot? [18:39:52] ve2dmn: wait a few minns [18:49:30] ve2dmn: https://imgur.com/a/rGGMQ Here. KopernicusExamples crashes my game. [18:49:31] https://i.imgur.com/VZXD3iJ.png [18:50:23] https://imgur.com/a/RKxBA [18:50:24] https://i.imgur.com/jfWKg9Z.png [18:50:40] not bad for still burning the 1st stage.... [18:50:58] think this thing may be overbuilt for getting a tourist to orbit. [18:51:03] GurrenLagannCWP: did you check what the error message was? [18:52:36] [LOG 15:46:04]: [Kopernicus]: Configuration.Loader: Failed to load Body: Eeloo [18:53:35] ve2dmn: Something with Eeloo. [18:54:04] anything else? [18:54:31] no [18:57:49] ve2dmn: No. Just Eeloo. [18:59:00] And i was using just HyperEdit, CustomBarnKit and CustomAsteroids. [18:59:08] no planet pack? [18:59:21] Action: Ezriilc winks [18:59:48] No planet pack besides OPM. [19:00:19] Try running it without OPM first [19:00:39] Uninstall the planets, run the game once, then install the planets again. See if it changes anything [19:00:54] I'm not sure it will do anything, but it's worth a try [19:02:18] Ok, definitely overbuilt for orbit. Think I can flyby the Mun? https://imgur.com/a/R5WFq [19:02:18] https://i.imgur.com/kdrKpTe.png [19:02:50] Testing... Kept CTTP [19:04:03] 718 m/s. No, no I can't. But I'll get the tourist into a high orbit for a couple days just as a bonus for taking the maiden flight :) [19:04:33] (and because I have no way to take the fuel/upper stage home anyhow) [19:05:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:06:19] mode/#KSPOfficial [19:07:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:12:51] ve2dmn: Nope, stilll broken [19:13:22] GurrenLagannCWP: sorry. I'm at work. my ressources are limited [19:14:56] ve2dmn: and you wont help me then [19:15:32] GurrenLagannCWP: I don't know what is wrong [19:16:49] I GET THE SAME FRIKIN ERROR [19:22:14] GurrenLagannCWP, looking at the scrollback, you're having issues with OPM? [19:22:47] I haven't read all that's been said, but what version of KSP are you running? [19:23:12] Deddly: 1.3.1 [19:23:44] What error are you getting? [19:24:05] [ab]using RCS might make it possible to do the Mun flyby after all: https://imgur.com/a/rO6Ob [19:24:05] https://i.imgur.com/0ESVh5W.png [19:24:15] Eeloo wont load. [19:24:29] (yes, I know I'm not pointed near Mun, but could just time warp a few orbits) [19:25:10] GurrenLagannCWP, in the map view? [19:26:30] I found it on the log, but i know that every single planet pack breaks for me. [19:27:12] Also, i cant see the map view because save games wont load [19:28:37] How did you install it, please? [19:28:56] Via CKAN [19:29:21] And installed it in the correct way [19:29:29] i just read the patch notes for the last release. I wonder what kind of crazy has been done with kerbal personal parachutes [19:29:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:29:52] My first suggestion would be to start with a fresh vanilla KSP and install without CKAN to see if that works for you [19:30:23] I tried that, wont work [19:30:34] cinnamon ice is better than vanilla ice :) [19:30:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:30:35] GurrenLagannCWP, How did you install it manually? [19:32:24] I downloaded via Github, then i put in the gamedata folder. And i also installed OPM via Github, and i did it again. [19:33:34] Also tested several other packs, wont work at all. Even the examples. [19:33:44] GurrenLagannCWP, you appear to be missing two of the required mods for OPM [19:34:10] GurrenLagannCWP, Please follow the instructions in the OPM thread here https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/165854-ksp-131-opm_galileo-125-14-feb-2018/ [19:34:15] This is what an "RCS burn" looks like. It's going to take a LONG time, I don't know how to look up the current G-force, but I'm sure it's under 0.1. https://imgur.com/a/B3YI6 [19:34:16] https://i.imgur.com/IX3Kspf.png [19:36:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:39:08] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:39:08] Deddly: I have Kopernicus 1.3.1-7, CTTP and CBK also. [19:40:07] I thought you said you started with a vanilla install of KSP? [19:41:20] Deddly: Nope. I also have Hyperedit because its fun. [19:41:48] Action: Ezriilc nods. [19:42:57] GurrenLagannCWP, so the first thing I said was: [19:43:02] My first suggestion would be to start with a fresh vanilla KSP and install without CKAN to see if that works for you [19:43:59] But if you prefer, you can post your issue in the OPM thread and see what advice they give you there [19:44:19] I DONT HAVE A FORUM ACCOUNT [19:44:28] That's easily solved [19:44:31] It's free [19:44:57] But please don't say you've tried something when you haven't done it, it makes troubleshooting impossible [19:45:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:59:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:59:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:36:25] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:41:20] Is there an easy way to get a numeric G-force readout? It'd be interesting to see what it is when it's low (orbital maneuvering on RCS). [20:43:03] Pakaran: navhud [20:44:07] taniwha, is that a mod? [20:44:13] yes [20:44:43] I thought navhud was a province in Canada. [20:48:46] you can use the actual sensor part or probably there is something i ker too [20:49:46] Oh yeah, the accelerometer. [20:54:14] i think I forgot the KER part on this craft, but thanks [20:55:04] I installed navhud, starting KSP now. [20:57:18] Pakaran: there's a "KER+MJ for all" mod: puts the modules on all command pods and probe cores [20:57:31] never add the part again :) [21:01:38] huh, I have it installed, not sure why it was grayed out. [21:07:24] Supernovy: that's Nunavut, and it's not a province, it's a territory [21:07:51] No, I was thinking of New Hampshire. [21:08:02] That's a US State [21:08:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:20:31] Supernovy: That's the "Live Free or Die" State [21:32:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:32:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:45:08] what is Mars Cube One 1 & Mars Cube One 2 ? [21:48:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:52:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:52:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dozeman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:00:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:00:42] I gave in and just set the funds rate back to 100% to make it less grindy. I'll see how that is moving forwards. [22:12:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:19:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:22:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:47:17] https://youtu.be/_0u046-bHxs?t=53 [23:19:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:30:44] Fluburtur: nice [23:32:21] also the projectile looks quite dangerous [23:32:50] and I still wonder if it's possible to launch something into space without push lots and lots of stuff out of the back [23:43:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:49:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net