[00:45:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:28:10] ...what would be a good term for the surface that contacts a vehicle's wheels? as in something that encompasses both rails and road surfaces, but not the ballast, foundation and other stuff below [01:30:51] interface [01:30:54] contact patch [01:38:10] contact area? [01:38:35] http://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199587438.001.0001/acref-9780199587438-e-1088?rskey=P9GCPd&result=1082 [01:39:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:39:18] anyone know what kind of plane this is? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285266644043956224/443587388934062080/DSC3348.JPG [01:40:43] looks like an l-39 albatross to me, not sure why the USAF would have it though [01:41:15] Was going to guess L-39. Presumably as a trainer. [01:41:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots_Jet_Team [01:42:00] I forgot tail numbers were attached to a publicly accessible database https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N178CW [01:42:06] ... [01:42:15] Neal: why wouldn't u ping me [01:43:05] idk [01:43:17] Neal: so an obnoxious paint job and not a real USAF asset? [01:43:57] yes that's an albatroa [01:43:58] the one next to it is painted to look like a Mig of some variety [01:44:00] albatros [01:44:05] https://flightaware.com/photos/view/922692-15ccf4eceb0ea5c630954e3347c4e572cd77adb7/aircrafttype/L39 [01:44:27] bah, was about to link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots_Jet_Team [01:44:36] dsockwell: it was a tribute iirc [01:45:02] https://flightaware.com/photos/view/922692-15ccf4eceb0ea5c630954e3347c4e572cd77adb7/aircrafttype/L39 [01:45:13] lol it even has mock sidewinders [01:45:28] actually don't think thats a sidewinder [01:45:48] 8 don't think it's a missile [01:45:52] i* [01:45:58] turns out you can paint whatever you want on your plane and the air force won't get mad [01:45:59] well obviously not a live one [01:46:19] I don't see how that could go poorly over a country like say... syria [01:51:02] https://i.imgur.com/pB3lmm7.jpg [01:51:15] seems legit [01:51:31] hahahaha [01:51:57] good enough [01:57:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:03:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:55:50] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/03/608137119/nasa-tests-new-nuclear-reactor-for-future-space-travelers [05:01:25] Stirling engines are cursed to never be used in production. =\ [05:06:06] UmbralRaptop: i wish that stirling venus rover was reality [05:06:20] i met one of the two guys behind that proposal [05:13:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwvR6cSH4o [05:13:40] YouTube - Dad Jokes with Kratos [05:15:07] Hrm [05:27:51] always fun to se how people use the word "exponential" for things that are clearly not exponential [05:30:13] i mean, anyone who paid the least bit of attention in physics class can tell that solar power scales with 1/r^2 [05:30:27] which is... not exponential... [05:30:58] hehe [05:31:06] i didnt notice people misuse that [05:31:26] i'm sorry, now you'll see it EVERYWHERE :p [05:32:46] that's always a fun thing with patterns. once you notice it, you see it everywhere, and think how could you ever miss that [05:58:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+vov Hikaru Technicalfool RyanKnack' by stormlight.esper.net [09:41:46] Eddi|zuHause: your comments on exponental, havent seen any, but probably will see it everywhere now. thanks! lol [11:37:32] Mat2ch Althego https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/443738112292814848/DSC_8870.JPG [11:51:04] neat! [11:52:20] I will give it to my uncle [11:52:28] his son does models so he can probably paint it [12:15:14] the shape turned out nice, it just looks so dirty without paint [12:15:43] hehe a tardis under the screen? [12:15:48] usb hub [12:15:58] and yeah I had to sand it quite a bit so it made it dirty [12:21:25] i thought the point of that is to remove some maerial, not to add more :) [12:21:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:28:07] hmm, would a hot-glue gun get hot enough to be used as a sort of patcher for 3d printed models? [12:28:20] yeah [12:28:29] PLA gets soft at a fairly low temperature [12:29:40] but the nozzle of a glue gun is kinda too large, i think? [12:29:59] depends on what you want to do [14:29:46] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296026715380252672/443777886751686666/Decal3.png?width=668&height=545 [14:31:37] I finished the 3d files for the desk plane vg33 [14:31:41] will put that on thingiverse [14:34:07] Thingiverse is still around? [14:34:14] yeah [14:34:20] still pretty used looks like [14:35:00] it must be... 8? 10 years old at this point? [14:41:35] eh [14:41:44] 3d printers still exist [14:41:52] and if the website can evolve and not die it's good I guess [14:46:24] I didn't follow it after Makerbot changed hands [15:06:28] Mat2ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_EliD9G90 [15:06:28] YouTube - 3D Printed Marble Lift - Marble Machine X #33 [15:35:23] it is time [15:35:31] time to design a 3d printed propeller [15:35:59] have you seen the kratos dad jokes? [15:36:06] no [15:36:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwvR6cSH4o [15:36:14] YouTube - Dad Jokes with Kratos [15:37:44] oh it is teal'c [15:37:53] or however you write his name [15:37:58] yes, he is the voice in gow4 [15:38:17] i have to admit somehow the stick joke made me laugh [15:38:24] maybe because he laughed too [15:38:45] when you only know him from stargate it is weird to see him laugh [15:38:51] yes [15:38:58] that's weird because it is a really happy guy [15:39:00] except for that one scene with the jaffa jokes :) [15:39:08] and the shakey bed [15:39:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt4WredSDog [15:39:53] YouTube - SG1 "Jaffa jokes?" - Teal'c tells a funny one [15:40:17] i think the joke was ok, but the funniest thing in this is that they dont find this funny [15:48:58] i really want to play prototype. i guess i have to get the previous box with win7 to shape again [15:53:07] Fluburtur: I still like the old system from the first marble machine more. But I hope he gets the printer calibrated soon and can print all the parts :) [15:59:28] looks calibrated well enough already [15:59:39] and high end machines like that better have a perfect quality [16:04:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:10:56] I should get a high speed video of me slicing a bottle in half with the sword now that I can hit somewhat reliably [16:46:13] https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm [17:12:18] doesnt seem to be a useful phrase [17:19:17] But the eeeeeeeels!? [17:29:37] Althego: I guess you are not a Monty Python fan [17:29:56] cant know everything [17:30:17] high speed video of my sword, after talking about it so much https://youtu.be/1AnLTbCzSik?t=13 [17:30:21] It's a reference to the Hungarian phrase book [17:31:04] I didn't get the shot where I cut the bottle in half sadly [17:31:09] I need to get more empty bottles [17:31:18] that was a funny sketch [17:32:33] there was even a follow up [17:32:39] in the court [17:33:23] I never understood what he said prior to being punched [17:34:03] nothing i would recognize [17:34:15] could be something made up or a language i dont know [17:34:24] sounded made up [17:51:18] the 3d printed prop didn't explode but it doesn't seem very efficient [17:52:42] maybe it is too rough, or not the right size? [17:53:01] well it is rough but it's probably not the right airfoil [17:53:13] and the angle of attack along the blades is probably wrong [17:54:03] I should try making a hub with slots and printing the blades vertically this way they will be smoother [17:54:05] but al [17:54:09] less strong [17:54:31] https://youtu.be/yppzhP4rJeI [17:54:31] YouTube - 3d printed prop [18:08:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:12:17] and you should balance it ;) [18:21:17] yeah I should [18:26:07] Fluburtur: A while ago, I test printed a prop. It was purely for a 3D printer test, but I have a prop that may or may not work. If you want to check it out. [18:26:18] yeah [18:44:41] Fluburtur: I've come up with a theory [18:45:21] planes dropped from carrier aircraft like the XF-85 Goblin are technically VTOLs relative to the carrier aircraft [18:45:40] the best VTOLs [18:48:57] I guess [18:49:07] but they do have an airflow going over them [18:49:19] so not relative to the atmosphere [18:50:04] Can we just call them baby plane and papa plane? [18:50:12] probably [18:50:43] Fluburtur: well i would say nine times out of 10, a carrier based VTOL has airflow over it's wings and a nice 20 knot headwind at the least [18:51:04] true [18:51:18] but the majority of the lift isn't generated by the wings [18:51:50] Fluburtur: see that's the thing, VTOL doesn't necessarily specify that [18:52:30] well planes that have short takeoffs without using any engine pointing down are usually considered to be STOLs [18:52:45] it's a philosophical question of "in a VTOL, is the TO and L relative to the ground or to the actual platform being taken off from [18:53:13] I guess we are overthinking that a bit [18:54:00] https://i.gyazo.com/c4414d2760bbab782715f5b4fe39bb7f.png - Tested the maximum camera zoom on my camera, Google Earth says that house is half a mile away. [18:54:42] Draconiator: How wide is some landmark on this photo, approximately? [19:00:09] https://youtu.be/Le0me6my4B8 [19:00:09] YouTube - F-15 Strike Eagle Pilots Talk BS While Aerial Refueling [19:00:36] how are you supposed to line up for a refuel if you don't see where the probe is going [19:00:38] That house for example is... [19:01:10] the refueling probe on the nose of french plane is ugly but at least it works and is simple [19:01:27] Fluburtur: well here's the thing [19:01:53] Fluburtur: your refueling abilities are based in puny little fighter planes. low fuel flow rate etc [19:02:08] the USAF is based on big beefy planes, lotta fuel [19:02:25] Actually going to use the width of the road right there. 30 feet [19:03:03] Fluburtur: also you don't line up the probe [19:03:11] Fluburtur: the probe lines up with you [19:03:36] guess that makes it easier [19:03:49] the french tankers just use drag probes [19:04:05] the US Navy does too [19:04:17] and all helicopters [19:04:35] guess it depends how complicated you want to go [19:04:49] Tried to land my large ion probe on Tekto (OPM planet) and....Mechjeb said the TWR was okay but I ended up smacking into the planet. Probe survived though so I have a great base indicator. [19:05:00] but the little hole in the plane that has a door is probably less draggy than a big pole on the nose of the plane [19:05:29] Fluburtur: but yeah, the USAF refueling style is designed for our big beefy long range bombers and transports, they can't maneuver their way to a probe [19:05:52] also yeah, drag is a lot lower [19:05:57] do theyhave some sort of fligth assist while they are undeder the tanker however? [19:06:10] becasue you still can't move that much [19:06:28] Fluburtur: the F-35C has to have a folding probe [19:06:39] since it uses the navy/international style [19:06:47] and the B [19:06:55] Fluburtur: I don't know [19:07:16] makes sense [19:07:36] I guess they could have put a folding one in the rafale but they probably wanted to make it a bit simpler [19:07:58] it is made to be easy to repair and have a good disponibility after all [19:08:11] and being grounded by a refueling probe problem wouldn't be fun [19:09:22] Fluburtur: the B-2 has a sexy af method for its refueling door [19:09:54] for hiding it [19:10:06] holograms [19:11:48] Fluburtur: https://youtu.be/k56OoEbuJEk [19:11:49] YouTube - B-2 Stealth Bomber In-flight Refueling [19:12:03] it's such a beautifully overengineered plane [19:12:18] I have to agree with you there [19:13:11] o damn that's pretty cool yeah [19:13:27] needs more room inside than a fighter however [19:13:32] Fluburtur: even it's nav lights retract into the wing [19:13:54] crap this plane is smooth [19:14:47] Fluburtur: when you look at the B-2 here at the museum it's just impressive how smooth it is. like there are no seams [19:14:49] like at all [19:14:57] other than the control surfaces [19:15:49] yeah the airframe is pretty nice [19:16:16] reminds me of peoples that say you can't make a flying with that works without flight computers [19:16:25] flying wing* [19:16:41] I mean that's a lie [19:16:57] yeah I know [19:17:01] I mean Northrop kinda made a good few before the B-2 [19:17:29] I mean you want to manage yaw a bit so you might need a computer for that [19:17:46] https://i.gyazo.com/a6de5935fbbf2e6c6f91f86de2ba2971.png - Going to eventually test the weight limit of this thing. Kraken Superheavy with Fenrir boosters [19:17:48] and it is probably too smooth for drag yaw stabilisation alone [19:17:57] but otherwise it is easy [19:18:20] Draconiator: Field of view is about 1.2 deg [19:18:42] Which is pretty similar to what my Sony can do, too [19:19:05] idk what my camera can do [19:19:13] the big lens has a focal lenght of 110mm [19:19:18] I used it to photograph the Moon [19:19:19] and the telescope has 700 [19:19:34] Fluburtur: yaw with drag [19:19:39] but I prefer my wider angle lens [19:19:45] yeah I know they use drag rudder [19:19:49] can't really do much else [19:19:49] Focal length of the camera is 1200 mm :P [19:20:03] yeah but you don't have a 80cm tube on it [19:20:10] No, I don't [19:20:21] But the zoom is incredible [19:20:26] Fluburtur: https://youtu.be/9NtVYrBiBdg [19:20:27] YouTube - Northrop N9MB at Chino 2016 [19:20:33] This does just fine without yaw [19:21:10] could add yaw by changing the pitch of the props a bit [19:21:21] This was with my camera: https://i.imgur.com/Sr49OdN.jpg Admittedly, I had to do some stacking to get the noise this low [19:21:32] heh [19:21:46] my flying wings are a bit yaw unstable at low speed [19:21:52] especially withotu winglets [19:22:25] I never really took a picture of the moon with mine, I should try that. [19:22:48] my big zoom lens https://i.imgur.com/iwEcH9y.jpg [19:23:03] Rokker: Is that a flying saucer, or what :P [19:23:15] nah that would be the flying flapjack [19:23:25] Fluburtur: lolno [19:23:29] APlayer: and u too [19:23:47] I wanted to make the weird aircraft from the incredibles [19:23:52] I want to buy a telescope or a tracking mount for this camera, but I am not sure which to choose. So I keep postponing that for months now [19:24:10] tracking mounts are super expensive [19:24:20] Fluburtur: u clearly forgot the avrocar is a thing that exists [19:24:32] but my friend will get a proper telescope with tracking mount at the end of the year so I will be able to sue that to take pics [19:24:38] use* [19:24:46] https://media.defense.gov/2016/May/11/2001536657/-1/-1/0/160511-F-IO108-004.JPG [19:24:58] LOL [19:25:07] Sue your friend and steal the telescope [19:25:23] nah he will let me use it [19:25:37] it's surprise actually his mom asked me if I knew about telescopes [19:25:48] so I will get to pick it [19:26:01] Referring to "I will be able to sue that" [19:26:11] heh [19:26:16] I should stop typing to that [19:26:25] too fast* [19:26:30] point in case [19:26:48] case in point* [19:26:48] Hahaha [19:27:07] I don't even think when I type [19:27:15] my hands just do their thing [19:28:04] ok, I'm impressed. I did a reverse image search for that Avrocar and the first result was the wikipedia page [19:29:15] ve2dmn: ima let u in on a secret [19:29:48] most USAF aircraft pics on Wikipedia use pics from my museum [19:29:59] did you take those pics? [19:30:03] that specific pic is NOT on wikipedia [19:30:34] it said: Best guess for this image: avro car vz a9v [19:30:57] ve2dmn: hell, even the actual wikipedia picture for sputnik, the Russian first satellite in space, is the model hanging from the ceiling at the NMUSAF [19:31:23] Taped a dime to the wall to see what I could get with a moon picture and I got this, so I think I would be able to get a few features with my camera at least. https://i.gyazo.com/1489e798432c4718dc5353a9fcc5c02a.png [19:31:34] which I find ironically hilarious [19:31:38] Rokker's Museum of Flying Objects [19:31:43] The reason for that is simple: Copyright is clear on those images [19:32:12] Draconiator: The moon is about 0.5 deg of angular size [19:32:38] Which means that it will occupy about 1/3 - 1/2 of your screen width. So it does on my camera too. [19:32:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1 [19:32:51] Action: Rokker laughs heartily [19:33:09] there is probably a sputnik in france [19:33:12] ve2dmn: to be fair, the avrocar is a pretty distinct vehicle [19:33:15] I will take a pic of it and replace this one [19:33:26] Fluburtur: there are 2 within an hour of me [19:33:32] Draconiator: If you want to do this, the very early mornings pretty much right now are a good opportunity. You will definitely need a good tripod, though. [19:33:40] one at the NMUSAF, one are the Armstrong museum [19:33:58] In comparison, similar things in UK and Canada would fall in Crown Copyright jurisdiction, which is far from easy to use for Wikipedia [19:35:03] Fluburtur: I live closer to more sputnik replicas than most of the world [19:35:18] heh [19:35:27] I could probably build one [19:35:48] Fluburtur: you could make it better, stronger, faster [19:36:12] idk about faster [19:36:17] annoying thing is that Nikon has NOT issued a firmware update yet for my camera. usually they add new features. [19:36:24] Fluburtur: huh there aren't any notable sputnik replicas in russia [19:36:28] 8 km/s is tough goal to achieve [19:36:35] or france [19:36:42] Draconiator would like an update for mine as well [19:36:55] old nikon 1v1 using the original 2011 firmware [19:37:02] Draconiator: Well, you can do a picture similar to what I did with pretty easy means [19:38:00] I used a small tripod, the built in timer to avoid blurring the image from pressing the button, and the shutter speed was 1/20 or so, I think [19:38:19] Small tripod as in 10 - 20 cm [19:38:52] I used about 1/5 to 1/2 for my pics [19:38:58] any longer than that is blurred [19:39:14] Then just take 10 - 15 images, discard the worse half, stack the better half and boom! You've got a Moon pic. :D [19:39:18] but I think I went to 1/60 for the moon [19:39:43] I do live within distance of a crappy replica of Endavor... once built for kids: https://goo.gl/maps/7hA4dSkT5S12 [19:39:44] Yeah, the Moon's a pretty easy target in terms of shutter speed/blur problems [19:39:55] (It a sort of space camp for kids thing) [19:42:10] The moon is sneaky. [19:47:39] I may use the flash. that usually makes the shutter speed not slow. take a few pictures with it on. [19:48:38] Can't you manually set shutter speed? [19:58:11] https://i.gyazo.com/02513da871d09a09f9166705536c6217.png - my best sun pic though, used a piece of VHS tape and taped it over the lens, using -2.0 exposure compensation. [19:58:37] indirect observation easily gives good results [20:00:15] I have a double-polarization filter which is supposed to be an adjustable neutral grey. It's of a varying purple tone, though. [20:25:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:25:19] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:38:32] hello [20:39:26] do you know much about how to find a particular docking port in the persistent file? [20:39:49] like if i wanted to know the status of a docking port according to the per. file [20:40:08] on a ship wiver over 9 ports [20:40:15] with* [20:51:19] i have about 7 docking nodes on my ship and i'm not sure how to find the state of 1 of them in particular in the Persistent file. anyone got any ideas? [21:08:22] what statuses or states can docking ports have? [21:08:26] oh [21:08:29] never mind [21:16:23] Ooooh, trying 2 strips of VHS tape to take a pic of the sun. [21:17:30] a highly Kerbal approach [21:39:45] https://i.gyazo.com/7db0854f289cc7459916da3912dc9aa2.png - it worked, heh [21:43:51] Fluburtur: you should just buy an LR-101 instead of designing rocket nozzles [21:44:24] if you have no signal, you can excecute maneuvers with Mechjeb, but you can't manually maneuver. [21:59:12] https://i.gyazo.com/8bbfbc9b1e652e36fde2ae8fe81e3040.png - What the heck is this round thing? [22:12:55] A flat computer or tank? [22:24:09] I dunno, it popped up when I loaded my ship. [22:24:28] 22 years alllll the way out to Plock and I had to reset....ugh [22:24:36] feelsbadman [22:25:33] Also, I didn't know central Poland was in KSP... ;) [22:26:13] it's an OPM planet. Pluto analog. [22:26:25] It's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%82ock [22:26:38] not sure if the author had that in mind or coincidence [22:32:50] http://outer-planets.wikia.com/wiki/Plock [22:54:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ8hbS4wcUw - while waiting I'm gonna youtube binge. heh [22:55:26] Draconiator: it looks like a thrust plate, to attach engine clusters [22:55:38] why it's over there but still aligned with your ship is a mystery [22:57:06] Draconiator: good idea. I'm gonna watch 2 girls dissect a beaver [23:12:58] Ya don't say...