[00:01:34] Good evening. [00:07:09] $time_of_day, enbies. [00:07:55] Supernovy: M-dwarfs are evil, and want you to suffer. Especially anything later than M2V. [01:20:21] Draconiator: now make it fly on the Mun on electricity only [01:20:30] (is that even remotly possible?) [01:20:46] what is this? [01:20:52] IRC [01:20:56] for what [01:20:58] IRC, it is [01:21:08] For Kerbal Space Program [01:21:14] wats that XD [01:21:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerbal_Space_Program [01:22:06] Action: UmbralRaptop sighs [01:22:11] coolio [01:22:38] UmbralRaptop: told you that being in this month Humble Monthly would bring more guest... [01:23:01] ? [01:23:19] ve2dmn: This, uh, doesn't fit the pattern. [01:23:23] KSP is in this Month' Humble Bundle Monthly [01:23:31] UmbralRaptop: I can... um.... see that [01:23:54] i stumbled upon this becuase of me reaserching galileo's planey for history :P XD [01:24:03] researching ~ [01:24:29] Guest28453: as for humble monthly, https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly [01:25:11] Guest28453: as in his discovery of Jupiter's moons? [01:25:42] -shrugs [01:25:57] something about science redefines the universe [01:26:00] thats the topic [01:26:27] Guest28453: then can I interest you in some youtube vidoes? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtwKon9qMt5YLVgQt1tvJKg [01:26:39] It's full of ideas on that very idea [01:26:54] and had to research ptolamaic system, coppernican theory, keplers change, newtons gravity [01:26:55] (it's stuff from the royal society in London) [01:27:23] I'd be tempted to suggest James Burke's "The Day The Universe Changed" or "Connections" series, though both are somewhat dated. [01:27:51] UmbralRaptop: this too is dated, but it's still interesting to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UnicxC8hs [01:27:51] YouTube - Newton's Telescope and Hubble - Objectivity #16 [01:28:09] this is a nice community [01:28:23] i might even check out the game XD lmao [01:28:28] i might even check out the game XD [01:28:31] ooh [01:28:42] i thought i was editing a message :P [01:28:58] It's a neat game that can teach you a rediculous amount of orbital mechanics. [01:29:01] When you see how primitive and crude Newton's telescope was... yet it served him well [01:29:37] im not really into space tho unless you count doctor who :P [01:29:38] Guest28453: it involves lots of exploding rockets, because space is HARD [01:30:10] or steven universe [01:30:17] but that is what makes it fun! [01:30:18] UmbralRaptop: btw, have you seen the video about the Royal Society's book? [01:30:27] I have not. [01:31:05] how "Technical" is the game [01:31:18] as in [01:31:23] in game softwar [01:31:28] Periodic Videos : The world's greatest autograph book [01:31:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wX-l8GFBq8 [01:31:35] YouTube - The world's greatest autograph book [01:31:41] ve2dmn: hah [01:31:58] and when u say mechanics what type of mechanics ve2dmn [01:32:26] How orbits and satelittes work [01:32:32] Orbital mechanics [01:32:53] i undertand that [01:33:02] understand [01:33:03] that [01:33:14] but what do u do exactly in the game [01:33:22] you design and test rockets [01:33:34] You 'try' to make it to the Mun in one piece [01:33:44] lol [01:33:54] then you fail... and try again... and again... and again [01:34:17] And then you make it!!!.... but you can't get back [01:34:18] does it have aerodynamics and STUFF [01:34:33] Build rockets, fly them, gather data, establish bases (space stations and or planetary), deploy satellites,& [01:34:58] You can design spaceplanes, yes :D [01:35:11] Stock aerodynamics are somewhat simplified, but there's a mod to make them more realistic. [01:35:31] 'a mod'... such an understatement [01:35:43] seems like a game i would buy [01:35:51] play for about 2 weeks [01:35:59] it's also very silly [01:36:08] and it trigger my bipolar and i throw my pc tower accross the room [01:36:15] silly? [01:36:42] well... the kerbals themselves are not very bright... [01:37:01] The kerbals (the game's protagonists) are oddly cute. And some will laugh in the face of certain death. [01:37:25] so even if the simulation is very precise (well... as much as it can be) it doesn't take itself TOO seriously [01:37:40] There's a whole solar system to explore [01:37:58] And there... probably a few thousand mods [01:38:27] The default settings, while they have realistic physics, are intentionally forgiving. [01:39:00] So you can recover from messing up a mission, or deploy a rescue team. [01:39:00] seems cool [01:39:15] but its not really a game for me [01:39:32] Fair [01:40:11] I mean... I only played KSP for 1300h according to steam and I'm not playing right now [01:40:14] im in higschool and i dont have tim [01:40:25] for video games [01:40:37] ... if only you knew [01:40:54] damn my grammar is horrible when i type [01:41:03] Most importantly the Kerbals are forgiving. [01:41:06] Well, it could be one of those intense schools. [01:41:16] ConductorCat: :D [01:43:57] wanna know whats the worse about being bi? [01:44:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:44:26] uh, this might not be a good channel to discuss thsg [01:44:29] bipolar? [01:44:38] hopefully [01:45:04] no, liking a guy whos super cute <3, but is str8 ;-; [01:46:07] is there some sort of login, or is it done by up iP? [01:46:47] see /msg nickserv help register [01:48:01] should i run the register cmd here? or does it stay private [01:49:03] /msg NickServ REGISTER umyazno1 umerayazdani@gmail.com [01:49:10] RIP XD XD XD XD XD XD [01:49:18] rip indeed [01:49:26] time for a new pas [01:49:36] yes [01:49:51] there we g [01:49:53] o [01:50:10] also ye thats the worse feeling ever [01:50:19] ve2dmn [01:50:30] Welcome to IRC [01:50:46] Thnx [01:50:47] The very first chat protocol, ever [01:52:10] And by first, we mean 1980s. It's managed to survive am absurd amount of stuff. [01:52:50] UmbralRaptop: (insert revelant xkcd) [01:53:37] Well, yes. But with the death of AIM and gtalk& [01:53:49] especially when you thought said person was gay, but they turned out to be str8 and they are really supper cute , and there a unique person with the perfect personallity and go to ask them out they are grossed out and block you on snapchat and avvoid u irl [01:53:58] ;-; -sob [01:55:26] -awkard silence [01:56:38] jeez, CKAN crashes *way* too often [01:57:04] gtg [01:57:09] Supercheese: define crash [01:57:44] calling the goold old werfault.exe and the "blah.exe has stopped working" kind of crash [01:58:24] and I'm afraid fixing it is not so simple as adding moar boosters... [02:05:56] ckan.exe or ksp.exe after loading from ckan? [02:07:58] ckan, it seems to have been a bug with one mod's versioning file [02:49:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:32:50] Is there a mod where I can hear cheering and clapping when I launch from KSC? [03:32:59] as if an audience were watching [03:34:15] Tortoise767: none that I know of [03:35:35] ah ok [03:47:06] Tortoise767 I only hear screams of terror for each launch from KSC [03:47:19] If your not, I think your doing it wrong. less struts is more [03:49:56] cycloptivity: please stop dropping boosters on the visitor's center. [04:04:41] jkRovin' 'round the Mün, yeah, rovin' all around. / You cannot turn too hard, else you'll soon be upside-down jk [04:06:28] wonderin whether I should mess with the traction control or whatnot [04:10:48] crap crap crap [04:10:55] Action: Supercheese sighs [04:11:03] thank God for autosave... [04:33:06] jk [04:59:46] https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVk3y3A0yB/ [05:18:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:59:53] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5Pj6GQL2o [06:59:53] YouTube - Tour of the Moon in 4K [07:15:58] pretty nice video, I found the music a bit distracting though :/ [07:52:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:11:59] Oh hey, SSTL released/licensed some KSP models https://twitter.com/SurreySat [08:17:00] er, I'm also too technically challenged to link idividual tweets, oops: https://twitter.com/SurreySat/status/981847133979598849 [08:17:01] <SurreySat> SSTL reaches into the digital gaming world, teaming with Coatl Aerospace to provide a virtual SSTL-300 satellite fo& https://t.co/plfBGkt6W9 [08:43:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:27:52] Howdy [10:27:56] yo [10:55:02] cat https://78.media.tumblr.com/c6922861d8d88e122409eb8b6a4074ee/tumblr_inline_ouwslocDbP1ra7nc0_540.png [10:56:14] brilliant https://twitter.com/newbobobon/status/983568400638033920 [10:56:14] #sn¡$’z‹ÐÃ° Î ÀÖë¯êÃ× https://t.co/kpkvWYOaUB [10:56:27] nice [11:31:31] a bag that determines the cost of a woman? [11:31:42] er, price [11:38:00] i thought these were not in legal circulation :) [11:42:53] i think i'm missing a few layers of jokes here [12:12:46] Eddi|zuHause: ambiguity in Japanese [12:46:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:51:45] Hi guys [12:51:53] Is APlayer here? [12:52:14] Can somebody tell me the maximum weight for mun lander? [12:52:24] on the start of career mode [12:55:57] ... [13:49:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:50:28] Hi! [13:51:12] https://youtu.be/Bx3k3W34PRw?t=129 [13:57:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:01:36] Where should I go after Duna? [14:01:43] Dres [14:02:29] Dres is boring tho [14:04:05] Guest69706, depends what you feel like doing. Eve is usually the natural next step [14:09:19] I usually do manned missions and returning from Eve is near impossible [14:10:06] put an orbital lab then [14:10:10] with probes [14:14:01] You may skim the upper atmosphere a few times [14:14:18] Or try Moho/Jool which I'd call comparable in difficulty [14:27:48] nobody ever goes to dres [14:29:33] Hello [14:31:46] I'm trying to figure math to make interplanetary transfers. I can do the dV math, but I can't figure how to know when should I start the burn. I can calculate the time I need to reach the other body, and the angular distance the other body will travel, but how can I know the current position of a body? [14:32:10] I'm trying to do it with kOS [14:32:49] Hmm. Sorry I can't help there, I use online tools to get the launch window and ejection angle right [14:33:33] But maybe someone else knows [14:35:49] Thanks, I use them too but I'm curious about the underlying method to do it [14:43:56] You can work backwards -- a Hohmann transfer aweeps out 180 degrees in the same time as the target planet does some angle. Subtracting gives the relative positions for a launch. [14:44:26] But if you mean getting exactly where a planet is right bow via an API, I'm not sure. [14:54:15] PacoKerman: I think several of the tools are actually open source [14:54:24] So you can just read the code [14:56:33] https://github.com/alexmoon/ksp/tree/gh-pages/src [15:14:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/433283493074829321/DSC_8684.JPG [15:30:53] iamFinished: Thank you! [15:45:58] I should probably desing my new nozzles [15:46:31] again? [15:46:39] well the last one failed [15:46:50] did you do another test, or is this from the number 6 or so [15:47:02] nah last one was number 6 [15:47:28] I will make one with a sort of oval inner shape to collect the gases [15:49:33] the last one had a 7mm throat so I will try a 8mm one this time [16:01:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:04:41] uh I really don't know what shape to make those nozzles [16:05:04] simulate them with finite elements :) [16:05:21] if they were full hollow core I wouldn't need to convergent part [16:05:38] what, that is the point of the whole nozzle [16:05:53] yeah [16:06:03] but im pretty sure the issue is on the gas collecting part [16:06:33] activate bussard collectors :) [16:06:58] heh [16:07:10] I guess I need a good laminar flow inside the nozzle [16:10:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/433297646686306305/mk3.jpg [16:10:22] I guess that would work? [16:38:31] Fluburtur, I thought you were going to use the same nozzle but held more firmly in place [16:38:49] nah [16:39:04] that won't solve the burn instability problem [16:42:04] I think the problem is that the presure has trouble getting out of the engine [16:42:14] so that means it is chocked somewhere [16:46:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:51:10] Maybe [16:51:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:56:40] hmm there was a successful long march lauch [16:58:12] !nextlaunch [16:58:17] :/ [16:58:47] http://nextrocket.space/ [17:01:56] Thanks, Althegobot :) [17:04:28] Well my failed Eve plane gave me the idea for a COMPLETELY green passenger liner. https://i.gyazo.com/bd2f1169af077e13ee14a05a265796eb.jpg [17:05:28] Draconiator I have a challenge for you [17:05:43] It always bothered me that solar panels are so OP in KSP [17:05:47] take this, do something nice with it https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DEq8M9ShSuXoQv17-haMTQ6Qd7G380ab/view?usp=sharing [17:07:18] Judge_Dedd: I like how you can refold panels infinite times even tho I'm not sure that's a thing that's ever existed irl [17:07:28] easily refolding space solar panels [17:08:04] Well, only some can be refolded [17:08:18] But I suppose that's true [17:08:26] we can't even unfold the ISS solar panels without tearing one but you can magically fold these suckers however many times you want [17:08:54] Okiedokie flub, need to plop it in the crafts folder and see what we got here. [17:09:00] speaking as solar panels, I want some the same size as the large radiators [17:09:15] Rokker, I get what you're saying, but that's a playability compromise that seems reasonable to me [17:09:38] Like restarting rocket engines [17:09:52] And like 0-100% throttle capability [17:10:09] all disgusting [17:10:12] It's not really how it is in real life, but it's OK for stock KSP, in my opinion. [17:10:17] Rokker mods can probably solve your problem [17:10:35] yeah it's important to remember that beginners sometimes play ksp [17:10:40] noy only tryhards [17:10:45] no, only museum solves rokker's problem [17:10:49] ^ [17:11:26] The solar panels are annoying, though, because they are actually OP. Same for the RTG. It should gradually lose power over time [17:11:47] Sun is op, true [17:11:51] Flub, it's incompatible, but I may be able to get it to work by changing the version number in Notepad [17:11:52] it does have a efficiency thing [17:11:53] hehe [17:11:53] waaaay too much power output [17:12:07] rtg should make less power when warmer [17:12:18] Draconiator yeah I play on a recent version of the game [17:12:27] but there shouldn't be any bad part in there [17:13:40] Yep, changing the version number fixed it. [17:14:02] you should like this plane [17:14:06] simple but works well [17:14:14] can reach decent speed and altitude too [17:14:56] Love the engine placement. [17:15:15] I tried to recreated the real life yak 15 [17:15:39] http://jets.for.ever.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/Yak-15%2004.jpg [17:17:15] that is ugly [17:17:37] no is good plane [17:17:43] just a yak 9 with jet engine [17:17:50] the 2 are unrelated [17:18:09] I can just imagine an enemy pilot saying that as he gets shot down. "Aaah, you got me. But you're still ugly!" [17:19:05] ok it was based on the yak 3 [17:19:13] but the yak 3 and 9 were fairly similar [17:24:49] Hey cool, I just found out that I'm only 43% human [17:25:20] http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43674270 [17:25:55] (approximately) [17:28:34] yeah, read that earlier [17:29:39] one can probably assume that some of us are less human than others [17:29:44] I wonder what the percentage is by weight [17:39:00] I would like to have some clear sky and nice temperature next weekend [17:39:15] this way I could go out with my friend to go star hunting [17:39:25] grab our telescopes and go in the middle of nowhere [17:39:29] By mass, you're about 90% human. IIRC. [17:40:15] Fluburtur: careful, the clounds know. [17:40:24] yeah [17:41:01] https://i.gyazo.com/73a7b7937f8506172233239536ab31f3.png - Here's my upgrades so far Flub. [17:41:30] that landing gears look a bit narrow [17:44:43] Yeah http://w01.fitcall.net/akaihoshi/finished_work/fws_yak15_p272/fw_yak15_p272_01.JPG [17:46:48] The single wheel should also be at the back, apparently. [17:47:54] my desing was like that [17:47:59] but I gave it to drac to mod [17:52:05] Yeah, I'm now putting BDA/Aviator Arsenal stuff on it. I usually go crazy with the AI because my planes are super maneuverable, but I think I'm gonna go conservative here. [17:52:28] this one has decent performances [17:52:35] fairly realistic actually [17:52:48] I should send you the k29 if you like crazy planes [18:11:03] Judge_Dedd, it was made of metal [18:11:20] right after when the rubber one burnt away [18:11:57] it is the first jet Yak and if memory serves it was basically a piston one with jet attached [18:12:07] yeah [18:12:12] yak 3 with jet engine [18:28:26] Guys I think I'm addicted to ksp... [18:29:06] hehe [18:29:27] you may get better in a few years [18:31:28] on my way to bed https://78.media.tumblr.com/a4b8e0d21c30aec3142380aa41866c4f/tumblr_inline_omeso9En4z1svvihe_500.gif [18:31:44] hehe [18:32:00] i thought you would glide in with rocket propelled rc planes [19:43:29] so are rapier nose cones in fashion at the moment? [19:43:49] do i need the nose cone for a drag reduction or is it already fixed [19:57:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:11:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/433358426035453973/DSC_8685.JPG [20:15:29] hot so hot! [20:15:43] it can be refilled [20:15:48] first half of your liquid fuel engine? [20:15:55] so I kinda want to make something dumb with it [20:50:11] I can't believe I got this to work but it got the job done... Can take my hoverjet into space now! http://puu.sh/A0qVr/bd6586936e.jpg [20:52:05] The framerate is absolutely horrendous though, even though it's only 91 parts [20:55:13] Seems to be better after a KSP restart [21:03:22] Black_Eagle: I can verify nose cones on rapiers are definitely still in fashion. A small nose cone cuts the drag nearly in half (and adds very little itself) [21:10:53] If you use an advanced nosecone and offset it inside the rapier, you can cut the drag more than in half [21:11:06] (combined drag of rapier + advanced nosecone) [21:12:09] Oddly enough, a Nerv nuclear engine (while being quite a bit bigger) has almost half the drag of an unconed rapier [21:12:12] I think I have found a match to my k29 [21:12:20] the ks2000 is very good [21:12:29] Draconiator this is good news [21:12:31] but not for you [21:12:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:12:56] Evening, Gentlemen. [21:21:17] so if I want you to check out a stock plane from now on, I'll change the version number in it to 1.3.1 [21:56:06] my k29 keep crashing into the ground [21:56:14] I should change the minimum altitude [22:41:24] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [22:41:53] Lyneira, thanks [22:42:22] and I hate it when KSP thinks items in my cargo bay should affect my aerodynamics [22:52:58] If you have it open maybe. [22:58:39] no. something was poking out of the bay inside the plane by about a millimetre [23:03:32] Black_Eagle: I remember when this was brought up during development [23:03:48] And the response was "naw don't worry about it fam" [23:45:53] TheKosmonaut yup. ragequit, enough of ksp today [23:56:33] o/ [23:57:45] anything new in spaceland? [23:58:29] Ooooooooooooh Near Future mods and Station Parts are out! [23:58:49] Action: marcus rejoices.