[00:26:45] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: If you stare into the Event Horizon long enough, it stares back with Hawking Radiation.
[00:32:56] <Scolar_Visari> A LEGO O'Neill Cylinder? https://www.flickr.com/photos/154489981@N04/30101992097/
[00:55:34] <Tank2333> hi
[00:55:45] <Tank2333> good day Modbot o/
[00:56:30] <UmbralRaptor> lo
[01:01:19] <Tank2333> i just read there will be a falcon heavy launch tomorrow
[01:01:35] <Tank2333> i hope i can catch it
[01:01:42] <Odin> It was supposed to be 20 minutes from now, got postponed due to high altitude wind shear
[01:02:08] <Tank2333> i see
[01:02:31] <UmbralRaptor> I'd recommend letting the barge catch the boosters 
[01:04:09] <Tank2333> doesnt make for a good video though
[01:12:32] <Tank2333> https://static.projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/styles/os_files_xlarge/public/eht/files/20190410-78m-800x466.png?m=1554877319&itok=m0gPFSet
[01:12:50] <Tank2333> somehow i dont feel impressed
[01:14:59] <UmbralRaptor> … 
[01:15:26] <UmbralRaptor> The outer diameter of the ring is 50 μarcsec 
[01:15:50] <UmbralRaptor> (might be closer to 40)
[01:17:52] <UmbralRaptor> Or, 1000x smaller than a pixel on HST 
[01:24:54] <Tank2333> uh
[01:25:00] <Tank2333> now im impressed
[01:29:59] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah, it's blurry because we're working right at the limits of what's possible, and even getting this involved a few decades of pushing advances in VLBI and millimeter radio astronomy! 
[01:30:30] <UmbralRaptor> (Incidentally, the team published six papers today. All are open access.) 
[01:31:47] <UmbralRaptor> https://iopscience.iop.org/issue/2041-8205/875/1
[01:31:53] <taniwha> that shot is better than my best shot of Saturn
[01:32:04] <taniwha> (420mm on micro-4/3)
[01:32:44] <taniwha> and considering that black hole (sag-a?) is significantly further than saturn...
[01:33:11] <UmbralRaptor> Amusingly, GRMHD shows up a lot in the papers. 
[01:33:49] <UmbralRaptor> M87*. Apparently Sgr A* was way harder, so they don't have pics yet >_>
[01:34:05] <Tank2333> so the black shadow is the event horizon and the disk around is bend light from the acrederatation thingy?
[01:34:08] <taniwha> yeah, followed your iop link and then googled
[01:34:12] <taniwha> virgo A
[01:35:09] <taniwha> ok, even further than sag-a
[01:35:18] <taniwha> so yeah, impressive
[01:35:25] <Tank2333> 55million km or so
[01:35:34] <Tank2333> lightyears
[01:35:38] <Tank2333> lol
[01:35:47] <taniwha> yeah, 55million km is 1/3 of the distance to the sun
[01:35:55] <Tank2333> yeah :)
[01:36:00] <taniwha> a slight rounding error, there ;)
[01:36:07] <UmbralRaptor> only slight 
[01:36:58] <taniwha> hmm, seeing Mpc makes me want to read the Wrinkle in Time series again
[01:37:16] <taniwha> (where I first heard of both parsec and megaparsec)
[01:37:27] <UmbralRaptor> huh
[01:38:23] <taniwha> also where I first heard of a tesseract
[01:41:10] <Tank2333> isnt parsec like the distance in angle between celestial bodys or something odd like that?
[01:41:28] <taniwha> it's 3.27 or so lightyears
[01:41:42] <UmbralRaptor> ^
[01:41:48] <taniwha> but based on 1 arc second of parallax from earth's orbit
[01:41:56] <Tank2333> ah yeah 
[01:42:10] <Tank2333> hm
[01:42:13] <UmbralRaptor> Or, 1/parallax angle as measured from earth in arcseconds 
[01:42:21] <taniwha> oh, and duh, first heard of parsec in starwars
[01:42:33] <UmbralRaptor> hah
[01:42:34] <taniwha> "kessel run in 12 parsecs"
[01:42:47] <taniwha> but then finding that parsec was distance, got terribly confused
[01:43:21] <taniwha> (hey, I was 7 when I first saw star wars)
[01:43:30] <taniwha> 11 when I read WIT
[01:43:47] <taniwha> maybe 12
[01:44:49] <Tank2333> same with scifi lightyears
[01:45:19] <taniwha> anyway, I later read somewhere that the kessel run involves a lot of black holes and other dangerous objects, so doing it in 12 parsecs meant getting dangerously close to things
[01:46:00] <taniwha> I've never encountered scifi using lightyears incorrectly
[01:46:06] <Tank2333> Han solo did the kessel run in SOLO
[01:46:46] <taniwha> (maybe compressing the distances, but light<timeperiod> was always distance
[01:49:07] <Tank2333> i just have a faint memory of being annoyed by a movie/show using it for time
[01:49:34] <Tank2333> maybe its just the "lightyears ahead" 
[01:49:56] <taniwha> time ahead/distance ahead... same thing, really
[01:50:01] <UmbralRaptor> ^
[01:50:06] <Tank2333> well
[01:50:32] <taniwha> if you can, find that movie and double check the context
[01:50:33] <Tank2333> "tesla is lightyears ahead in reusable rocketry"
[01:50:42] <taniwha> distance
[01:50:56] <Tank2333> damn you are right...
[01:54:35] <darsie> I thought Tesla was on Earth.
[01:57:51] <darsie> Earth takes 10,065 years to travel one lightyear around the sun.
[01:59:43] <darsie> Wait, a Tesla in space doesn't mean it's a rocket company.
[02:01:45] <Tank2333> just cahnge tesla for "Elon musk company"
[02:02:01] <Tank2333> i cant seperate them in my head
[02:02:26] <Tank2333> im also tired from work
[02:28:58] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Did you know that black holes are actually prisons for star vampyres?
[02:30:46] <Scolar_Visari> Huh, don't believe I actually have this one.
[02:30:47] <Scolar_Visari> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/ca/a2/bdcaa27d29c5f1ad1bb3aeec04fd656b.jpg
[02:31:31] <Scolar_Visari> Better resolution https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmPfZg8U0AEsLXJ.jpg
[02:34:10] <UmbralRaptor> … do I want to know what's trapped in M87*? 
[02:35:05] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: M83, after a mix-up.
[02:35:26] <Scolar_Visari> At least there are sweet, sweet synth tunes while you're spaghettified to death.
[02:42:36] <Scolar_Visari> Soviet Cylinder colony? https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/r4wzo5wtcjq1banige2m.jpg
[02:46:29] <Scolar_Visari> Haven't seen this one before either http://classconnection.s3.amazonaws.com/499/flashcards/2158499/jpeg/downtown_in_colony_bussiness_district1355123298251.jpeg
[02:58:37] <UmbralRaptor> hrm
[09:56:47] <Fluburtur> https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/crash-support-group.58120/page-2#lg=attachment128576&slide=0
[10:11:38] <Rolf> Sorry. I don't have any crashes to share. Lucky for me, I don't crash! My son says that a crash landing is still a landing. Therefore, I have nothing but landings! :p I will admit that some landings require more repair than others, though...:sneaky::p lol
[10:12:08] <Fluburtur> you know, as long as the plane can still fly
[10:12:27] <Fluburtur> I crashed a wing once and it snapped in half, it was only held up by a bit of tape so if I pitched down it would fold
[10:14:53] <Fluburtur> actually I have it here https://youtu.be/BJecbW4ig60
[10:14:53] <kmath> YouTube - only up challenge
[10:27:55] <Rolf> wow!! https://xkcd.com/2135/
[10:31:33] <packbart> Kerbal Space Program 1.7: “Room to Maneuver” is now available!
[10:31:38] <packbart> ooh, updateski
[10:31:41] <Rolf> https://imgur.com/gallery/f4Xypih
[10:44:22] <packbart> "Fix bug where symmetry would break animations on some parts." - I wonder if this fixes a problem with scripting I had. That would be nice :)
[10:44:28] <packbart> ( https://steamcommunity.com/games/220200/announcements/detail/1792904174913848330 )
[10:44:49] <Rolf> i wonder if danny's literal worldbreaker bug was fixed
[10:47:06] <packbart> I'm not sure if it can reasonably be fixed. looked probably like some floating point precision madness to me
[10:47:44] <Rolf> if they prevent the movement range workaround then it'd be harder to fix
[10:47:47] <Rolf> *to do
[10:48:50] <Gasher[work]> according to the comments the bug is from 1.3 or earlier
[11:31:48] <Fluburtur> can youtube stop auto-pausing videos
[11:37:25] <Rolf> auto pausing?
[11:45:38] <Fluburtur> yeah when the tab isnt active
[11:45:53] <Fluburtur> I often put music and play some game and it pauses after a while
[12:25:29] <Eddi|zuHause> is that maybe your browser pausing inactive tabs?
[12:25:50] <Fluburtur> no I think it is a youtube feature
[12:26:18] <Eddi|zuHause> how long is "a while"? because i haven't noticed anything like this
[12:26:32] <Fluburtur> not sure, at least 30 minutes
[12:27:15] <Eddi|zuHause> and is that in the middle of a video, or playlist not forwarding, or autoplay canelling?
[12:27:26] <Eddi|zuHause> *cancelling
[12:27:36] <Fluburtur> any video, it just pauses and gives a message asking to continue
[12:28:05] <Eddi|zuHause> never seen that
[12:37:06] <Mat2ch> I've seen that
[12:37:11] <Mat2ch> but for some reason not very often
[12:37:17] <Mat2ch> couldn't make out a pattern
[12:37:37] <Mat2ch> but I'm on Firefox, maybe Mozilla says: Nah, we don't tell you when a user is inactive?
[13:11:36] <packbart> Youtube constantly fiddles with the player. It never behaves exactly the same as yesterday
[13:12:32] <GlassYuri> packbart, and it's also not the same for everyone due to A/B testing
[13:13:10] <GlassYuri> ...I need a new username that cannot be linked to my existing ones
[13:15:18] <GlassYuri> I just realized that that might imply something nefarious lol
[13:15:20] <Mat2ch> GlassYuri: there are username generators...
[13:16:33] <GlassYuri> it's an MMO character name so it should be somewhat nicer than just face on keyboard
[13:18:44] <Alanonzander> for a MMO?  Why not?  Just say it is dwarven/Elish/etc
[13:19:46] <GlassYuri> the reason I can't use my existing names is that I work at the company behind the game
[13:20:22] <Alanonzander> I was meaning "face on keyboard"
[13:21:01] <GlassYuri> I know I just spent three minutes typing the second part of that message
[13:21:39] <GlassYuri> in most fantasy settings dwarves and elves don't sit at desks which they could facedesk into
[13:22:41] <Alanonzander> so it' Gnomish  (aka tinmkerer Gnomes)
[13:23:12] <GlassYuri> and in a science fiction setting there... would be some contrieved reason why heroes don't facedesk
[13:23:37] <GlassYuri> because they're augmented and would smash right through
[13:24:27] <GlassYuri> and if the desk is armored then it's either the desk or their face, too many variables involved, impossible to tell beforehand
[13:25:05] <GlassYuri> facedesk into an armored desk would be a form of russian roulette then
[15:17:39] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/565903026833850378/DSC_1047.JPG
[15:18:00] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: sooooo, part3? ;)
[15:18:09] <Fluburtur> soon
[15:18:24] <Fluburtur> I just need to joint the cockpit to the wings
[15:18:38] <Fluburtur> then I guess I will order the electronics and route all the wires later
[15:19:56] <bogu> 1.7 is out?
[15:27:00] <UmbralRaptor> uh
[15:27:58] <UmbralRaptor> apparently 
[15:30:42] <Mat2ch> it is
[15:30:54] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: \o/
[15:53:42] <Althego> hehe falcon heavy was delayed a day again
[15:53:58] <Althego> but at least scott made his video about black holes
[16:03:58] <UmbralRaptor> … wait, I cam abuse my op powers 
[16:04:48] <UmbralRaptor> (All hail open access publishing) 
[16:25:09] <bogu> nice
[16:25:27] <bogu> I have an issue where my launcher window for ksp is super tiny on my screen
[16:25:31] <bogu> how do I fix this?
[16:25:46] <bogu> can't even see the update button its so small
[16:25:48] <Althego> dont use tha launcher :)
[16:25:58] <bogu> but then i cannot update
[16:25:58] <Althego> the update button doesnt work anyway
[16:26:04] <bogu> oh
[16:26:24] <Althego> just download it from the store
[16:26:30] <Althego> if you want to update
[16:26:34] <bogu> will i lose saves?
[16:26:48] <Althego> no, but some things might be incompatible
[16:26:58] <Althego> lately not really, to small updates
[16:27:07] <bogu> okay ill do that when I get home, thanks
[16:27:09] <Althego> mods vary in compatibility as usual
[16:27:19] <Althego> rather than this, put it in a new location
[16:27:25] <Althego> and copy the saves and craft files
[16:27:52] <bogu> thanks
[16:40:43] <Althego> so when does the israeli lander touch down?
[16:50:39] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/565926538399318030/DSC_1053.JPG
[16:52:34] <Althego> サーキット
[17:12:59] <UmbralRaptor> なに？
[17:13:47] <UmbralRaptor> hrm, I don't seem to have a proper IME for that keyboard. 
[17:13:54] <kubi>  !!!!1.7!!!!
[17:14:02] <kubi> just one day I look away
[17:14:03] <Althego> omae wa mou shindeiru
[17:14:31] <Althego> i dont have ime either. i asked my bot to convert latin to kana for me :)
[17:15:08] <Althego> heh i thought 1.7 should have been out already, and i was loking for days and nothing happened
[17:15:10] <Althego> so i gave up
[17:16:10] <Althego> anybody knows how i can combine delegate_to with wait_for_connection in a way that i can specify user name too?
[17:16:26] <Althego> in ansible
[17:16:35] <Rokker> UmbralRaptor: which is the more important story. the black hole or the effectiveness of this interferometry
[17:18:27] <Althego> or maybe it doesnt even need the user, but then i wonder why it failed
[17:18:42] <UmbralRaptor> Rokker: really, other depends on what you want to focus on? 
[17:19:41] <UmbralRaptor> There's an argument to be made that the interferometer is more important right now, but in a few more years, the black hole(s) will be. 
[17:19:53] <UmbralRaptor> Compare with LIGO? 
[17:20:03] <Althego> what do you want to do with the black holes?
[17:21:04] <Althego> 1. build huge interferometer 2. take picture of black hole 3. ??? 4. profit
[17:23:07] <Althego> probably because of the delegate it wanted to log in, and then wait for a connection, which is stupid since to log in it already needs it
[17:23:37] <Althego> probably i can turn it into a simple port check or a normal shell command
[17:26:35] <UmbralRaptor> Mass measurement via the shadow and photon ring sizes, features of the inner accretion disk (rotation speed, direction, other weird things since you're doing relativistic magnetohydrodynamics) 
[17:27:03] <Althego> hehe relativistic magnetohydrodynamics soounds like a nightmare
[17:27:25] <Althego> https://xkcd.com/1851/
[17:27:30] <Althego> see the hidden text
[17:29:43] <UmbralRaptor> More or less, yeah 
[17:31:13] <Althego> aha, ther is a simple wait_for that accepts port and host and even regex, exactly what i want
[17:31:27] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/565936668356378645/image0.jpg
[17:56:39] <Althego> hehe i just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h7Mfe8BDw
[17:56:39] <kmath> YouTube - Make It So - A Parody of "Let It Go" from Disney's Frozen
[18:57:23] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/565958571267981334/DSC_1058.JPG
[18:58:04] <Fluburtur> and the bunch of wires https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/565958656877920296/DSC_1060.JPG
[18:59:02] <Althego> fluburtur builds
[18:59:04] <Althego> niuce lights
[19:09:41] <Althego> what, scott again
[19:39:06] <Althego> wait, the beresheet lands in 5 mintes?
[19:39:23] <Althego> no, the stream starts in 5 minutes
[19:39:40] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMdUcchBYRA&feature=youtu.be
[19:39:41] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE broadcast - Beresheet lands on the Moon  Fasten your seatbelts, we are about to land.
[19:43:34] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I hope that's in the video. That's awesome!
[19:45:56] <Althego> hehe the scrolling of the chat window
[19:46:02] <Althego> obviously write only
[19:50:04] <Althego> there can be real live feed from the moon. but probably we will get data in cgi visualiziation
[19:55:02] <Fluburtur> wow this tank was molten https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548167406674116609/565972836250812419/Destroyed_Panther_tank_Germany_1945.png
[19:55:32] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548167406674116609/565968729867812880/0v52rm52nnr21.png
[19:56:09] <Althego> hehe
[19:56:23] <Althego> now if they could switch to using english in the stream
[19:58:18] <Draconiator> Woooot found a HP Photosmart 210 digital camera at a local thrift store for 4 bucks....circa 2000, kinda love old tech heh
[19:58:42] <Fluburtur> gonna make retro movies?
[19:58:50] <Fluburtur> 2002 stop motion lego animations
[20:07:39] <Althego> finally
[20:09:38] <Althego> hehe that battery is draining fast
[20:10:36] <Althego> so tomorrow scott has to report about this and probably about falcon heacy too
[20:18:14] <Althego> hah picture
[20:19:48] <Althego> imu what, not ok?
[20:20:11] <Althego> lost signal?
[20:21:00] <Draconiator> It's a point and shoot like my Coolpix L19, but much older apparently.  It came with a 4MB CF card
[20:21:45] <Althego> speeding up
[20:23:03] <Draconiator> and a cable that looks like a VGA male plug to 3.5mm male headphone plug
[20:23:06] <Althego> main engine issue
[20:23:34] <Althego> it is too fast
[20:24:07] <Althego> probably not enough reserve power to make up for this
[20:25:01] <Draconiator> Lost communication.
[20:25:05] <Draconiator> probably crashed
[20:25:16] <Althego> it was still high up
[20:25:24] <Althego> or maybe not
[20:25:41] <Althego> hehe people writing f for respects in the chat
[20:26:17] <Althego> crashed
[20:28:16] <Althego> hehe
[20:28:25] <Althego> i swear this was the fastest quit ever
[20:28:38] <Althego> 4 seconds
[20:28:50] <Draconiator> Space is hard though.  WE OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT :P
[20:29:14] <Althego> we choose to go to irc, not because it is easy, but because it is hard
[20:49:58] <Mat2ch> f
[21:07:26] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/1f813c90df3f26f90784c6a25ec5c131.jpg - Picture of my cat taken with the old camera....and it's about what I expected a c. 2000 digital camera to be as far as quality.
[21:07:51] <Althego> bette than anything i made with a phone :)
[21:58:30] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/3399a2acd232a69e725e9a598e9d0c0e.jpg - Macromode on this thing is actually pretty good.
[22:11:22] <Fluburtur> I found a pic of a rc jet fuel pump https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfIeeMjuUB6BHgBBbqrLfImdASukQ5O25FPx9eZMAMPfKiVvVPAw
[22:27:01] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d8c8g
[22:27:01] <kmath> YouTube - Arabsat-6A Mission
[22:35:51] <Supercheese> oh a Falcon Heavy?
[22:39:34] <Supercheese> neat
[22:55:51] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPfHHls50-w - Rumor has it, he's launching a bus this time.
[22:55:59] <Draconiator> A SATELLITE BUS HAW
[23:14:38] <Eddi|zuHause> so, these israelis failed to fake a moon landing?
[23:15:01] <Supercheese> Oy vey!
[23:17:13] <packbart> it tested the Moon's bounciness at 950m/s
[23:17:19] <packbart> ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beresheet#/media/File:Beresheet_-_last_telemetry_data.png )
[23:18:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net
[23:20:02] <Fluburtur> stream started
[23:20:23] <Mat2ch> do I really screw up my sleep cycle to watch a rocket launch?
[23:20:25] <Mat2ch> Jup
[23:20:39] <Fluburtur> where is mister knees
[23:23:09] <Rokker> why the hell isnt the launch in the topic
[23:23:20] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: oi
[23:23:23] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/TXMGu2d8c8g
[23:23:23] <kmath> YouTube - Arabsat-6A Mission
[23:24:28] <Fluburtur> wooo mister kness
[23:24:34] <Fluburtur> knees*
[23:25:23] <Supercheese> HAZARDOUS
[23:25:26] <Supercheese> OPERATIONS
[23:35:14] <packbart> Good TWR
[23:45:50] <Supercheese> Yissssss
[23:53:49] <Draconiator> Success and both boosters landed?
[23:55:27] <KrazyKrl> All 3 boosters landed.
[23:55:32] <Mat2ch> booster and central core landed
[23:55:41] <Mat2ch> if it's a success we will see soon
[23:55:53] <KrazyKrl> #WhatAboutTheFairings