[04:21:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:08:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:10:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:23:09] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZjhWE-3zM [09:23:12] <Mat2ch> No. Just no. :P [09:23:23] <Mat2ch> There is so much than can go wrong here, it's not worth doing :D [09:29:24] <Althego> read the title [09:33:09] <Mat2ch> "Kerbal Space Program official channel" [09:33:12] <Mat2ch> ;P [09:33:14] <Mat2ch> :D [09:37:34] <Izaya> I automated my satellite launches :D https://files.catbox.moe/872z8c.webm [13:16:33] <Mostly_Deddly> chanlog [13:17:51] <Mostly_Deddly> Nuclear salt water rocket actually sounds like something worth pursuing [13:19:53] <Mostly_Deddly> !nextlunch [13:19:53] <LunchBot> Mostly_Deddly: Mushy peas. [13:19:58] <Mostly_Deddly> With? [13:20:03] <Mostly_Deddly> !nextlunch [13:20:03] <LunchBot> Mostly_Deddly: Porridge. [13:20:11] <Mostly_Deddly> Interesting combination [13:20:52] <Althego> lol [13:21:24] <Judge_Dedd> I can't believe it took me so long to come up with that topic [14:09:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Mostly_Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:11:42] <Mat2ch> !mission [14:11:42] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You search for the Mysterious Cities of Kerbin. In the ensuing investigation, you maintain that that mountain, quote, "came out of freaking nowhere." [14:12:02] <Althego> hehehe [14:12:09] <Althego> mysterious cities of gold [14:12:45] <Mat2ch> Ah, Gold, nothing worth anymore. Looking for burried bitcoins [14:13:04] <Althego> try natural sources of antimatter [14:13:49] <Althego> or maybe carbon nanotubes, but i dont know of any natural sources [14:13:52] <Mat2ch> the Nerdle Cam Stream is lagging. A few hours or so behind. [14:14:00] <Althego> hours? lol [14:14:15] <Althego> yes it shouldnt be this dark [14:14:17] <Mat2ch> oh, power outtage, so cameras down :| [14:14:37] <Althego> it should be solar powered and using batteries during the night [14:42:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:01:00] <kubi> yeah, a bag of antimatter would worth a lot [15:01:27] <Althego> suposedly you can collect some around the magnetic fields of jupiter [15:02:19] <kubi> after covid then we travel a bit [15:06:09] <Althego> you can self isolate around jupiter pretty well :) [15:09:01] <darsie> Keep your distance. [15:09:49] <Althego> there is only one human made object there at the moment, so you can be quite alone [15:12:47] <Althego> 17 seconds, i think it is above average [15:42:26] <cirith_gorgor> Althego, the Red Spot is entrancing [15:45:54] <Althego> hehe, a sentence comes into my mind: it's shrinking! [15:46:08] <cirith_gorgor> Sad [15:46:25] <Althego> (from the film 2010) [15:46:39] <cirith_gorgor> Althego, its violently entrancing [15:51:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Judge_Dedd' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:56:37] <Mat2ch> the Nerdle cam is back! [15:56:45] <Mat2ch> and no undocking [15:59:02] <Mat2ch> ah, bad weather is holding them back [15:59:20] <Althego> from undocking? [15:59:51] <cirith_gorgor> Mat2ch, the mindless primitive violence of the Great Spot is so entrancing...it naturally guides the eye towards the epicenter of the violent cosmic storm [16:00:30] <Althego> have to hurry and get there to have humans look at it before it completely vanishes. at least that is no going to be our fault [16:01:05] <Mat2ch> Althego: from landing [16:01:44] <Althego> what is coming back? [16:02:41] <Mat2ch> CRS-21, Cargo Dragon [16:04:09] <Althego> i guess it uses the same landing areas as the crew dragon now, so the weather around there has some effect on that [16:21:21] <Mat2ch> It's landing in the Atlantic ocean now. NASA wished for that. Probably because it's easier to get it to KSC. [16:22:24] <Althego> i dont get why americans are so afraid of solid gorund [16:22:54] <Althego> the russians have ben using land since forever [16:25:26] <FLHerne> Starliner does [16:25:34] <Althego> and it doesnt work [16:25:50] <FLHerne> Well, the airbags seem to work ok [16:25:59] <Althego> just the whole thing doesnt [16:26:03] <Althego> with the 90 or so issues [16:26:13] <FLHerne> And Dragon was going to land on land, but NASA didn't like retropropulsion [16:26:19] <Mat2ch> With SpaceX water was always just the secondary option. But when NASA decided that they don't like powered landings, the primary option was gone. [16:26:28] <Althego> iwasnt the issue the landing legs poking through the heat shield? [16:26:31] <FLHerne> No [16:26:52] <FLHerne> That was the stupid Reddit 'fact' [16:27:27] <Althego> well doesnt matter, the dragon is just a small intermediate step [16:27:43] <FLHerne> Would have set a good precedent though [16:28:15] <FLHerne> Of course, the incident where the retropropulsion system exploded and destroyed a capsule might show they had a point :p [16:32:37] <Althego> no, because that is still the escape system [16:33:53] <FLHerne> But the fix was just to add a burst disk [16:34:04] <Althego> replacing a valve [16:34:32] <FLHerne> Which prevents using it as a reusable retropropulsion system, and probably would have been there already if it wasn't designed as one [16:34:41] <FLHerne> In addition to, surely [16:35:23] <Althego> bbut the result was still the splashdown [16:35:42] <FLHerne> ? [16:36:01] <Althego> not LANDing [16:37:51] <FLHerne> Retropropulsion would have been a landing [17:09:24] <JVFoxy> these new kerbal faces are getting kinda creepy... https://i.redd.it/vk7tg8rmzde31.jpg [17:10:49] <Althego> hehehe [17:11:04] <Althego> hullo, it's scott kerman here :) [17:12:19] <JVFoxy> I dont' know which is worse.. https://imgur.com/PZgBAyy [17:12:36] <Althego> hehe [17:12:45] <JVFoxy> originally was looking for aa aaa aaaa memes, but thought I'd see if there was any kerbal ones [17:13:38] <JVFoxy> of course,, my first mistake? accidentally posting to wrong channel. >.< ya.. either I lay down for a bit more or get some go juice soon [17:27:23] <Judge_Dedd> The reason SpaceX didn't push ahead with powered landings was NASA, primarily, but also because they wanted do devote R&D resources to Starship/Superheavy [17:27:45] <Althego> not the first thing they scrapped, not the last [17:28:01] <Althego> at least the starship is simply too big for such tricks [17:38:42] <Judge_Dedd> Starship is also not reliant on NASA [17:39:43] <Judge_Dedd> And since NASA are interested in using it for future Moon missions, propulsive landing is a must, anyway [17:40:05] <Althego> the moon starship is possibly a different design [17:40:15] <Althego> without heatshield and special landing engines [17:40:43] <Althego> i am afraid they are going to fall into a trap with that just as with falcon heacy. oh we just strap these boosters togeteher and we are go. it wasnt that simple [17:55:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:51:09] <Guest90476> I haven't been able to find the Zvezda module after installing ROCapsules and ROEngines, any ideas why? [18:51:23] <Guest90476> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625444239878389790/798261939758170193/Kerbal_Space_Program_11.01.2021_19_46_00.png?width=1202&height=676 [19:03:51] <Judge_Dedd> Hello Guest90476 [19:04:10] <Judge_Dedd> Hmm [19:04:49] <Judge_Dedd> I'm really sorry but I'm not the best one to ask about modding issues. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will see your question soon :) [19:05:20] <Althego> yes, i dont know much either. i would try to uninstall mods until it comes back [19:06:07] <Judge_Dedd> That is generally the usual way... try to find out which mod is causing the issue. This is Realism Overhaul, right? [19:08:39] <Judge_Dedd> Guest90476, Realism Overhaul actually has a dedicated IRC channel, if you're interested - type /join #RO [19:22:07] <Guest80090> I believe the European space station has a lot of Nitrogen deliverys [19:23:10] <Guest80090> The zero gravity semi conductor lab has a lot of drops into earth space!! [19:23:42] <Guest80090> I’m wondering who picks up in Alaska [19:24:18] <Guest80090> sorry [19:24:24] <Guest80090> North Pole [19:26:27] <Guest80090> Only joking they produce there own Nitrogen [19:27:22] <Guest80090> looking at meteorological data [19:28:05] <Guest80090> Data match with space x [19:32:03] <darsie> They do? From what? Pee? [19:33:19] <FLHerne> ...what European space station? [19:33:19] <Althego> european space station? [19:33:24] <FLHerne> jinx [19:33:43] <Althego> anyway i havent understood a single sentence from that [19:34:43] <Judge_Dedd> Well, nitrogen is a thing. This we can all agree on. [19:35:09] <Althego> how do you produce nitrogen? through fusion? [19:35:44] <darsie> Suns do. [19:35:48] <darsie> Stars* [19:36:07] <Althego> did humans ever produced nitrogen? [19:36:13] <darsie> By fusion? [19:36:17] <darsie> or so? [19:36:18] <Althego> or any way [19:36:29] <Judge_Dedd> Google tells me that the encyclopaedia Britannica says that nitrogen can be produced by burning hydrocarbons in air and separating the CO2 and water from residual nitrogen. [19:36:35] <Althego> i can imagine other wys, by splitting atoms [19:36:46] <darsie> Probably with some particle accelerators. [19:36:55] <Judge_Dedd> So that's more like refining it than producing it [19:37:04] <Althego> yes, that is not producing it [19:37:20] <Judge_Dedd> Or you can make nitrogen by heating barium azide, apparently. [19:37:26] <raptop> I mean, given the large amount of nitrogen in the air, there's no need to mess around with nuclear processes. fractional distillation of air is sufficient [19:37:38] <raptop> Or is something like producing ammonia, nitrates, etc meant? [19:38:43] <Judge_Dedd> I guess we shall never know [19:38:48] <darsie> 0.8% N in urine. [19:38:48] <Althego> hehe [19:38:59] <Althego> that is not too bad [19:39:09] <Althego> oh btw, what is the urinte tank level [19:39:10] <darsie> And we're electrolyzing the water to get O2. [19:39:36] <darsie> I guess we'l purify the water prior to electrolysis. [19:42:20] <Judge_Dedd> See this is what I love about this community. Someone attempts to troll (maybe) and we turn it into a serious conversation about space travel. [19:42:27] <Judge_Dedd> Never change, KSP community [19:43:55] <darsie> Could be worth it to make N2 and only bring up LOX. [19:44:07] <Althego> no urinte tank level [19:44:17] <Althego> why cant i write it correctly [19:44:23] <Althego> probably because the t in the tank [19:44:35] <darsie> Then again, we don't really use up N2, so we need to replenish only a little. [19:44:45] <Althego> you do use up n2, by leaking [19:44:52] <darsie> Leaks? [19:44:59] <Althego> no perfect seal [19:45:03] <Althego> the iss always leaks a bit [19:45:10] <darsie> Ok, but I guess this is small. [19:45:36] <darsie> And we do grow plants. There are probably a few nitrogen fixating bacteria. [19:57:58] <packbart> Nitrogen is dangerous when forced into lockdown. It wants to roam the world [20:02:26] <Mat2ch> Althego: Oh no. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xujqf5EjimI :D [20:02:40] <raptop> fixing nitrogen implies that nitrogen is broken [20:02:51] <raptop> n2 op, pls nerf [20:06:22] <Althego> no, from bottles [20:06:26] <Althego> why [20:07:10] <Althego> fixing also can imply nitrogen is procreating :) [20:08:41] <Mat2ch> the stitching now looks creepy enough for the mighty fingers... [20:20:23] <Mat2ch> Oh no, in Boca Chica a concrete truck fell over! [20:22:18] <Althego> i cant see it [20:22:49] <Althego> meanwhile on nsf, pelicans on boat [20:23:23] <Mat2ch> I can't see it neither, it was just in the quickinfo box [20:23:31] <Mat2ch> and boat beached on the beach [21:33:46] <darsie> .