[00:08:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:52:53] I haven't played in a while, tried to load the game up and it keeps crashing after the loading bar completes. I reinstalled the game, but it still crashes. [02:53:08] I imagine it's an issue with an out-of-date/incompatible mod. When it starts loading it says that MechJeb version 2 is incompatible, and I hit okay, and the loading continues but crashes at the end. should I just clear out all the mods? [02:53:37] Probably [02:54:11] other mods could also be causing issues [02:54:39] I have both ckan and other mods in gamedata folder, so I'll jsut delete the entire ckan folder, what do have to keep in the game data folder? just the squad folder, or anything else too? [02:56:31] or would it be easier to just uninstall the game via steam, delete everything else left over, and start from a blank slate [02:58:34] Omega, probably. than make a copy of the fresh installation folder to speed it up in the future [02:59:28] alright, I'll do that. it's been more than a year since I last played, going to have to learn what mods are current and hip and cool lol [02:59:47] if i'm lucky I'll be able to start playing by friday :-D [03:05:47] Incidentally, you can take a fresh install, copy it out of the steam folder to wherever, and it should run just fine. [03:06:10] This is good for keeping multiple versions, testing out mods, etc. [03:13:27] Oh, good to know. I'll keep a backup folder elsewhere for just that purpose. Thanks for the tip! [06:42:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:13:41] "create an account with an active .edu email address." apparently the crime of not living in the united states still disqualifies you from student discounts [07:14:18] I mean not living in the united states may in itself be the biggest student discount ever but [07:19:01] hehe [08:23:58] GlassYuri ^ .edu can be given also outside of the us [08:25:01] Epi, and how often does that really happen [08:26:07] Anyone else watching the soyuz launch? [08:36:01] all the big universities do it here [08:37:02] good that you reminded me [08:37:09] i forgot it since yesterday [08:37:31] if it's a '.edu' instead of '.edu.topLevelDomain' well, yeah I guess it's only the States [08:45:12] they mentioned some failure [08:45:19] but apparently it is still working [08:46:40] at times like these i really would like to understand russian [08:47:02] whatever happened, scott is going to make a video of it in a day :) [08:49:04] hehe, any time i would hear what the issue is, the stream cuts out [08:49:21] some sort of booster failure, but they still made orbit [08:49:27] they removed one of the crew [08:51:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0 [08:51:07] YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV [08:51:15] this stream works, the one from nextrocket doesnt [08:55:04] ballistic descent [08:55:37] that is hard [08:55:49] they are going to remember this [08:56:02] what [08:56:03] poor guy first trip is an abort [08:56:22] wait, it should be the first aborted launch since ever? [08:57:15] moonmoon [08:57:18] ooo [08:58:40] i suppose now it would be good if they manage to survive [09:02:53] g-forces are not that big with that speed [09:02:53] crew told that max g-force was 6-7g and it was decreasing before loss of contact [09:02:53] i mean if booster failed then anything else could [09:02:53] where do they fall to? [09:02:53] kazakhstan probably [09:02:53] ~200-500 km away [09:03:56] proton first stage falls at 320km [09:04:00] idk about soyuz [09:05:31] yeah, center of kazakhstan, same flat land [09:07:28] i guess it is a bit lucky that the launch is from the old site, not from the new one [09:07:34] because that would abort to the ocean [09:08:12] there are lakes here and there in there [09:08:21] there was at least one landing in a lake [09:08:37] i remember there was a case when the capsule arrived to a lacke upside down and they almost suffocated [09:09:09] chute opened (c) our news [09:09:23] where did you get that from? [09:09:30] this lack of information is killing me [09:09:38] bees, thank heavens [09:09:55] descent module landed (c) our news [09:10:13] uh-hu [09:10:22] that was fast [09:10:24] "It sunk" (c) [09:10:59] cant really [09:11:59] there are a lake nearby [09:12:17] cant sink, hermetically sealed :9 [09:12:26] with air inside [09:12:46] what [09:13:15] sealed so what? it might be heavier than mass of its water volume mass [09:13:25] it isnt [09:14:21] ...space hardware is really light [09:20:12] and not much remains on it [09:20:22] before landing [09:20:32] so it is basically a huge air bubble [09:21:02] everything is ok with crew [09:21:08] also what'd happen to the second stage [09:21:18] fall down somewhere [09:21:29] probably not too far [09:21:34] I believe the non TLD academic domain is ac. generally [09:22:10] I can think of countries that don't, yes :P [10:45:07] landed safely [10:46:03] the soyuz? [10:46:08] an hour ago :) [11:18:42] anyone type ? [11:19:55] NoneType has no attribute named anyone [11:19:55] type what? [11:26:05] yay [11:26:07] lol [11:26:24] anyone use kspie ? [12:15:04] I just heard about the soyuz thing. any links to good video of it? [12:15:58] Haven't found any yet :( [12:16:21] second stage failure. [12:16:54] yeah :/ [12:17:07] shutdown sounds like. Not catastrophic. [12:17:24] Looked very Kerbal to me... since I've had to use my escape system several times with that exact scenario many times :( [12:17:28] But the soyuz has aborts throughout luanch. [12:18:29] If I had to guess, second stage shutdown, third stage ignition, full gimbal and burn 90 degrees to the second stage, jettison capsule, fire drogue. [12:19:09] hmm.... atmospheric forces, you can't pull KSP maneuvers in atmos. [12:19:16] I think scott will cover it. [12:19:23] no [12:19:44] I don't know the abort mode of second stage failure at 90 seconds. [12:20:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_abort_modes [12:20:09] first stage burnout, second stage did not start, separation from the second stage then separation of the crew module and ballistic descend [12:21:01] Ah [12:21:07] i guess we would know the full sequence of what happened soon [12:21:19] first stage being the core, right? I guess boosters are 0th stage? [12:21:45] I know from KSP you don't want to decouple and then get pinned to the front of a lawn dart. [12:21:49] I've had that happen. [12:21:52] yes [12:22:16] first stage is the core and there are 4 boosters, from what i read tower separates with boosters or soon after [12:23:02] i suppose they need the tower's thrust in the atmosphere only [12:23:12] to detach the crew module [12:23:27] Yeah, if at enough altitude they could even use the RCS to gain distance. [12:23:48] WEll... dynamic pressure. [12:23:59] fast and high has as much drag as low and slow. [12:24:43] No detailed abort plan in the wikipedia article. [12:26:34] yes damn [12:26:43] i had to look it up [12:28:26] Blaank, http://galspace.spb.ru/orbita/16.file/2b.jpg [12:28:31] So second stage failure to ignition is what do? [12:29:05] Ok, decouple orbital module, burn away, re-enter somewhat normally. [12:29:06] seems so and also NASA says there was issue with booster separation [12:29:13] no burning away [12:29:20] no re-entry lol [12:29:24] orbital module does have some thrusters, right? [12:29:28] cause there was no getting to the orbit [12:29:41] I mean it has to. [12:29:50] Otherwise it couldn't de-orbit. [12:35:43] actually i noticed at the separation that there was no korolev cross [12:35:50] which i think should be normally visible [12:36:10] the boosters were just wildly moving around kerbal style [12:36:12] It almost always is. [12:36:18] not the smooth coordinated rotation [12:36:28] They do a nice flip. [12:37:05] They did look kind a funky when they came off. [12:37:10] I don't have a good video of it. [12:39:23] https://youtu.be/ib_5qDr7uIM?t=1646 some debris coming off the bottom [12:39:55] Yeah, the korolev cross was very lopsided. [12:40:00] Might be point of view. [12:40:51] I don't speak russian so I have no idea what they are saying in the background. [12:41:18] Althego, yeaht that's also mentioned [12:59:14] eve irl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmra_aBijI [12:59:15] YouTube - CREEPY: Purple clouds hover over Lake City after Hurricane Michael [12:59:42] Althego, all hail the glow cloud [13:04:25] Althego: lol scatterer bug [13:19:38] I feel so dumb now [13:20:10] I was playing a game I made last year and tried to exploit a bug [13:20:21] only to find that I had actually fixed it [13:21:46] lol [13:21:56] hehe [13:22:43] do you often play with your own games? [13:23:18] and I had to spend over ten minutes performing repeated actions in really horrible UI [13:23:40] Why did you make a horrible UI? [13:23:55] I swear within a week of submitting that thing I had a revelation about how the menus should have been done [13:24:32] Blaank, accidentally pushing the limits of a visual novel engine [13:26:46] I don't think I'm ever going to get Making History because that would mean supporting Take Two Interactive who destroyed GTA and RDR. [13:27:00] Althego, if by playing you mean starting the thing up and immediately hitting a missing feature, writing a few lines of code and giving up, then yes [13:27:33] I wonder if Scott Manley will recreate the failure in KSP. [13:27:44] It's always neat when he does that. [13:28:13] he has to :) [13:35:49] the bug btw is kinda hilarious, there is an event where you give medical assistance to an opponent's party and the victory conditions is that they don't have anyone with a health value under 80% [13:36:07] you may see now where this is going [13:38:09] failed skill checks have a risk to injure a character so if you use the opponent's most injured character to repeatedly attempt to heal someone they have no chance of succeeding on, you can kill them off that way [14:19:11] https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1050386580928520192 [14:19:11] Boy, I guess I should have stayed up to watch Soyuz last night. [14:23:30] hehe https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1050386580928520192 [14:23:30] Boy, I guess I should have stayed up to watch Soyuz last night. [14:23:45] (scott) [14:24:05] also the horrible pun that is pinned... [14:48:03] https://twitter.com/kNewsSpace/status/1050392575134392321 [14:48:03] @DJSnM NASA cut the video differently than the russian stream. Here the cloud that formed at around booster sep. Zo& https://t.co/qrK0hKOSIm [16:10:14] I should get myself this for whristmas https://www.banggood.com/Dynam-Messerschmitt-BF-110-V2-1500mm-Wingspan-EPO-Fighter-Warbird-RC-Airplane-PNP-DY8963-p-1249401.html?rmmds=category [16:44:24] some explanation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJe694E1zA [16:44:24] YouTube - Soyuz MS 10 abort explained [17:58:40] Scott's video is up [17:59:09] hehe hit it at 100 views [17:59:12] 1000 [18:04:07] is someone sabotaging their stuff? [18:04:11] ... mr popular huh? [18:04:35] he has 750k subscribers after all [18:05:02] he is Scottish after all [18:05:17] oh.... [18:05:18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwnLFKfuBE [18:05:19] YouTube - Crew Safe After Soyuz Launch Abort [18:05:39] had my youtube home page up for a bit. Didn't really notice this one till you mentioned scott :\ [18:11:13] what other video about new glenn? [18:24:37] Action: darsie flew to Gilly with a small rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot85.png [18:25:50] nice [18:26:00] probably could be smaller with the use of a jet in the first stage [18:26:54] hehe i didnt know deal with it pixelated glasses are sold [18:29:48] what? [18:30:01] hmm, ok. [19:13:24] https://youtu.be/ZFGxnF9SqDE [19:13:25] YouTube - Precise Hopping with Salto-1P [19:55:32] I for some reason wanna hide a 3.5 floppy disk somewhere conspicuous with a label that says....something weird. lol [19:57:33] novel_draft_sep1993.txt plans_for_world_domination.txt recipes/ [19:59:55] "Trident verification telemetry" [20:02:24] Duke Nukem 4 [20:06:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:07:29] Sounds anachronistic, perhaps a CD instead? [20:12:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:47:00] my dude in gta5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/500061699102081025/20181011231434_1.jpg [21:47:04] it looks a bit like me