[00:01:16] good, the invasion cover is working [00:01:17] oops [00:04:08] was pretty cool driving through norfolk, va [00:04:14] f22s flying all over the place [00:04:55] sorta mixed feelings on the f22s for our airforce... gotten kind of fond of the cf-18s here.. maybe a canadian version of the super hornets [00:36:52] I don't get remotetech contracts... 'no connectivity to inner planets' to get inner planets contract... [00:37:13] spent forever trying to achive that, even turned off/destroyed all my sats, no good, tried changing time incase KSC was connected.. no good. [00:37:26] build megasat and point dish at every planet, suddenly the contract is doable?? wut. [00:40:37] Action: JVFoxy attempts building plane that can deploy a cabin on the ground.. early career.. [00:42:59] https://i.imgur.com/xszw65f.jpg my solution to 6 huge dishs on a single sat. [00:45:13] https://i.imgur.com/K1K9ToS.jpg [00:46:12] imgur sure is cranking the quality to potato these days. [00:46:56] FVfoxy: yea I went to see the airshow today in Canada, BC. Had them fly about 100' over my truck. [00:51:02] oooh? [00:51:24] hmm.. wonder how this'll fly... custom plane for dropping a cabin down over near the north pole [00:51:26] https://imgur.com/a/4bJ7m7x [00:51:26] https://i.imgur.com/p6Ez8hQ.jpg [00:51:57] would have loved to go... can't afford. I got lucky back when I volunteered at the museum of flight [00:52:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214523379766525963/478002622729682969/unknown.png [00:52:17] JVFoxy: I just parked a few blocks away and sat on my tailgate :P [00:52:50] I got right in there, mostly because I was helping at the booth for the museum a few years back [00:53:06] I suppose I could have gone over, sat somewhere nearby but eh.. not the same as being able to tour the planes [00:53:07] M [00:53:09] U [00:53:09] I got pics [00:53:10] S [00:53:12] E [00:53:14] UM [00:53:17] MUSEUM [00:53:24] JVFoxy: MUSEUM [00:53:24] .... [00:53:56] museum is one of my ping words [00:54:00] Don't need that anymore! https://i.imgur.com/HtB7RF6.jpg [00:54:01] I like museums [00:54:17] museum is my summon word [00:54:22] oh was like.. its spelled right.. autochecker wasn't throwing a fit at me [00:54:38] JVFoxy: I wanna go to the museum of flight [00:55:26] I mean it still doesnt hold a candle to my local museum but I still like trying to visit all the aerospace museums [00:56:04] been to one in seattle ages ago [00:56:15] back when concorde sat in the parking lot.. parked under it ;P [00:56:37] then again, later when it was on the other side of the road early says before the roof was built [00:56:46] says=days [00:57:38] one of my fav pics.. stitched a few together to make a wide shot sorta: https://www.deviantart.com/jimfoxyboy/art/747-RA001-206026366 [00:59:29] >deviantart [00:59:33] hmmm [00:59:42] debating whether or not to click [01:00:45] JVFoxy: come to the national museum of the usaf [01:03:13] I've visited the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, I happened to be near there while visiting a friend. He offered up the chance to go there, I'd drive him. His vision meant he couldn't drive... sadly he passed a short while after I left. [01:04:46] JVFoxy: well if you are ever within like... 300-500 miles of dayton it's worth the long detour [01:04:46] .... certain kinds of batteries used to have mercury.., people toss them into the trash all the time. Now the recycling center takes them <-- now we have laws that all shops need to take back batteries (if they sell them) [01:04:57] JVFoxy: we have the XB-70 [01:05:02] and an F-22 [01:05:06] YF-23 [01:05:55] is anyone here playing adventure games? [01:06:06] and replaying them for any side achievements? [01:06:26] I barely have time to play them for main achievements [01:06:30] (some of them are crazy hidden) [01:06:34] ugh ok base transport just ... all over the place. take off a truss, use the normal tail piece instead of one pointed down, its fllying .. better. [01:07:05] Edii|zuHause olden days.. [01:07:26] in the olden days, there were no achievements :p [01:07:35] no.. for your battery question [01:08:14] as far back as i can remember, i was always told to not throw batteries into the trash [01:08:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_battery [01:08:49] mostly they were button cell types [01:09:17] most people know mercury from being in thermometers [01:11:29] &and tuna [01:12:10] Tunamometers. [01:12:42] a few years ago a family got hospitalized after some kids found a jar of mercury and brought it back home [01:12:50] eek [01:13:15] And now Fluburtur is playing with the stuff and spilling it, and thinking about microwaving it -_- [01:13:52] And this is why we can't have shiny liquid metal things. [01:15:04] just get the t-900 or whatever to deal with him [01:15:23] you think the regular liquid metal is deadly... [01:30:25] uff.. ok third try.. this version flying better. used long rocket fuel tank instead of trusses for the middle.. much more stable. :) [01:31:11] I sort of want to do a single engine version now.. but .. getting the landing gear to touch teh ground might be a problem without the underwing pods [01:33:06] ok I know night time flying.. sorry: https://imgur.com/a/0xObNW7 [01:33:06] https://i.imgur.com/4FDMSy3.png [01:48:15] lol at little drop pod [01:48:25] only not to be dropped from flight [01:48:37] land, detatch, roll away from it [01:48:44] more a test [01:48:53] Yea, Iv found it generally easier to do a flight drop. if you circle around till it lands, it will even work! [01:49:19] thing is... [01:49:28] I didn't upgrade the hangar [01:49:32] Of course, if you want to land with it, thats fun too. [01:49:33] so limited to 30 parts.. [01:49:37] ah, lol. [01:49:41] current config.. 28 parts.. [01:49:54] thats enough to put 1 chute on it :0 [01:50:30] just deploy the chute and disconnect the docking coupler as emergency abort, even if you still normally land it :P [01:52:00] this isn't final version.. [01:53:05] mulling things over as I fly out.. docking port on the front, thinking next run I'd send another module out, connects to it. [01:53:59] I was kind of hoping if I can one engine design, maybe it'll free up some parts space. I know I can just upgrade the hangar but ... challenges? [02:04:12] redocking is pretty tricky too with front mounted ports [02:04:26] vertical ports you can just retract/extend landing gear, usally... [02:05:57] getting a little worried I've burned past my bingo... [02:06:17] I won't know till I drop off, head back.. its just a test.. [02:06:32] hehe. I once was going to make one more hop [02:06:43] then looked at my DV and was like oh shit and pulled off a quick orbit instead [02:07:02] make a node back home... 6DV left after that burn to 40km PE, lol [02:07:12] That's a few times now BlackMoon [02:07:45] sorry. Not used to family friendly channels. I'll try harder. [02:09:55] lol.. whoops [02:10:03] forgot, gear does /all/ gear including the legs [02:10:22] hahah. Iv been binding solar panels to gear on sats that don't have any gear. [02:10:35] cause havent fully upgraded the VAB [02:16:40] JVFoxy: oh you know what else my museum has [02:16:42] rockets [02:16:47] lovely lovely rockets [02:16:53] like a Titan IV [02:17:03] the only one left [02:17:42] ya I was reading up on that. I didn't realize it lifted off on just SRB's only then switched to liquid after on the next stage [02:18:05] SRB's considered stage 0.. like they didn't really consider it a 'proper stage' or something? [02:18:18] JVFoxy: and then the second stage was hotfired too [02:18:28] JVFoxy: Programmers made it. :) [02:18:49] Hot fired? [02:18:54] .. programers... "m equals 1" rwar! [02:19:00] TheKosmonaut: quit oppressing BlackMoon [02:19:06] reee [02:19:10] <3 [02:19:18] hot fired means firing engine before previous stage burnout [02:19:28] yes [02:19:46] mostly so the fuel lines didn't vapor or bubble because of low gravity when thrust stopped [02:19:56] JVFoxy: there's a cool video out there of what happens when you hotfire a Titan (II in this case) second stage [02:20:23] https://youtu.be/PBkZNMM_IUg [02:20:23] YouTube - Archival Titan II Launch Vehicle Staging Video in Color [02:20:29] Russian did it a lot on number of their rockets.. hence why the latices between stages. [02:20:32] JVFoxy: Sooo, Hot rocket on still firing rocket action eh? [02:21:04] How does that not result in horrible horrible things like.. whenever I stage too soon in KSP and previous stages take out the main rocket? [02:21:10] though in some cases, they added boosters on the latices, dropped the previous stage, burned boosters to give some push on the tanks. fired engine, then dropped the frame [02:21:12] JVFoxy: yeah but lattice hotfires dont look as cool [02:21:33] gemini did hot firing... they had holes in between stages [02:21:34] Do they stay attached till the previous stage burns out? [02:21:46] BlackMoon: we are talking like a few seconds of overlap in firing at most [02:21:53] usually fractions of seconds [02:22:03] no [02:22:17] once the next stage is ignited they drop [02:22:23] rokker: Yes and a few seconds of overlap = exploded rocket in KSP. 1/2 second maybe goes well. 1/4 second would likely be OK [02:22:42] watch the youtube link [02:22:46] Rokker: I oppress as I please [02:22:54] k [02:22:55] some cases I think in gemini or mercury.. they had little booster rockets. would fire into the previous stage, they found the close proximity actually gave a slightly better boost than if was done in open space away [02:23:04] Now shut up and bring my grapes and chariot [02:23:12] Action: Rokker throws TheKosmonaut's tea in the harbor [02:23:28] Action: TheKosmonaut clicks harsh treatment [02:23:41] wow that shroud got demolished lol. [02:23:41] oh and.. made it to pole.. [02:23:41] https://imgur.com/a/JuI6BIK [02:23:52] second pic.. you can see texture doing that 4 way [02:23:52] Action: Rokker rises up anyways, on the opposite side of where his soldiers are [02:24:15] JVFoxy: spiderlegs. Too bad it does not have servos... [02:24:23] They rise from the highest developed province [02:24:25] servoes.. for what/ [02:24:31] to move the legs like a spider. [02:24:39] oh.. walky? [02:24:42] shrug.. [02:24:46] its a test.. [02:24:47] a joke. [02:24:54] Tallboi planes [02:25:00] walkers never work out... [02:25:06] some point, I may fly out a truck, dock to it, drive it around [02:25:26] Cool. [02:25:54] Protip: Kerbal attachment system is a great mod for lifting things up to be docked [02:27:23] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ELXUJ0BN/2b188b71dc038ebc4af56e8cd74642b7.jpg [02:27:28] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rhYyMByi/XC-120_front_view.jpg [02:27:36] tallbois [02:28:15] Action: BlackMoon slaps hood of aircraft [02:28:24] You can fit so much landing gear under here! [02:28:43] I'm considering KAS/KIS.. as well as the ground experiments package [02:28:59] HIGHLY recommend KAS/KIS [02:30:03] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/G1MnnXqs/342usaf21378+0245-0254+XB-36+42-13570+right+front+pan+l.jpg [02:30:11] the only downsides to KAS is.. the winches have some issues latching up back to 0, they ARE powerful enough to rip your ship to pieces... and sometimes the winch line flys around in annoying orbits, especially in space (but not entirely limited to) [02:30:14] bigboi tires [02:30:52] KAS is absolutely wonderful for landed fuel transfers though, I wouldn't attempt them with docking ports to be honest. [02:31:04] biggest boi tires [02:31:06] its basically you use the claw or you use KAS [02:31:25] because docking ports are WAYYYY too fussy, especially when you factor in changing mass of fully loaded/unloaded fuel [02:31:35] Plane I called the 'Pali'... think it translates to 'Bird'.. https://imgur.com/a/g1gm5At [02:31:36] https://i.imgur.com/nZuV6Lk.png [02:31:47] someone got carried away with tweakscale on those tires [02:32:11] Rokker lol [02:32:28] Rokker: brb taking my bomber offroading. [02:32:32] speaking of KAS... does the end of the winch line still do that 'anti gravity' thing when its loose? [02:32:53] BlackMoon: nah use these instead [02:32:55] or way like a small handful of dark matter? [02:33:02] way=weigh [02:33:24] arg... brain must be cross firing or something, bad typos more lately [02:34:05] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cPxklb3h/nihkxtdsnsykj6pcd10o.webp [02:34:21] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5BjpcTnf/980x.jpg [02:34:31] BlackMoon: see [02:34:34] much nicer [02:34:35] that is just wrong... -_- [02:34:43] 'To hunt the tanks.. you must first become a tank!' [02:34:58] I messed with KAS a while back... dropped a winch line down from a crane. The end would go down, but the connector would seem to bobble the wrong way, reverse of gravity. It also weight like stupid amount [02:35:12] hey now, the A-20 is just a halftrack [02:35:41] ya.. early versions were tracks.. [02:35:58] reason for big tires back those days, development hadn't evolved enough for high strength and pressure like they have now [02:36:57] article for ya: https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957 [02:37:16] blegh, foxtrot alpha [02:39:45] oh blegh.. japlopnik :P [02:39:54] Action: JVFoxy shrugs, eh well [02:39:57] yeah [02:40:22] still.. massive single tire... if that thing were to ever blow up on landing.. ouch [02:40:42] kiss your whole wing goodbye.. as well has half hte fusellage [02:40:43] nah, if you see it up close, that's a thickboi [02:41:28] would have to be.. 156lbs psi? [02:41:31] JVFoxy: speaking of which, guess what they have at muh museum [02:41:49] Rokker 'phat plane'? [02:41:49] you mean 156 psi [02:42:05] well phat plane and its experimental fat tires [02:42:08] er ya sorry... did say brain has been cross firing a lot. blame the heat [02:43:34] anyways, if its usaf history there is a chance its gonna be one of two places [02:43:56] the NMUSAF here in dayton or in washington dc at the NASM [02:44:50] ok so dropped the cabin off.. geez this thing wasn't to rocket now... 1/3 throttle, its already near mach 1. I haven't even gotten up past 3km [02:45:31] wasn't.. wants. arg X_X [02:47:36] 550m/s.. 6.5km up and still slowly climbing.. maybe it will make it back with the fuel [02:54:21] hahah I was thinking how bad the aerodyanmics on that cabic where [02:54:26] cabin [02:56:23] if you think that was the only error in that line... :p [02:57:12] https://i.imgur.com/lLJahLQ.png [02:58:35] I like how KSP properly crossfeeds between adjacent tanks now.. [02:58:53] I'm down to 360 fuel out of 1160.. plane without cabin is just a little over 8tons [02:59:15] cabin probably adds.. a ton or so more.. the extra weight probably didn't help matters either [02:59:28] Good news is KSP jets still have like 15X ISP because they take into account intake air [03:00:11] I already knew lifting cargo will have a good bit of cost to it [03:01:58] the bigger cargo bays can help you eliminate the drag cost (at the cost of more mass, of course) [03:02:25] I know.. didn't have research [03:02:37] ah. [03:02:44] I have a few designs I did in sandbox.. [03:02:52] one based off of BAE's regional jet [03:03:34] I have a few tech lines I still havent touched, because saving up for that sweet sweet antimatter reactor.. [03:04:27] i'm not sure i even ever built the 3rd research center upgrade [03:04:43] (even if the timberwind alone is insanely efficient and powerful. like 1000ISP/1100 thrust for 12 tons or something silly..) [03:04:55] (KSP-I mod) [03:05:10] well ok guess I don't have to worry about running out of fuel on the return trip... barely used 200 and flew a little over twice as fast [03:05:43] Nice [03:06:15] maybe consider holding the cabin with a decoupler or something instead, even if it still has a docking port, for the drag bonus [03:06:31] (stack decoupler that is) [03:16:40] single engine gives me a bit more capacity to add more things but not sure if it'll be enough power [03:18:53] well if you optimize the drag you won't need as much power. I mean think of how much faster you went, even though you only went from 9 tons to 8 tons [03:19:47] Stock KSP has some vaguely sensible aerodynamics these days. its not just 'however much the part weights = drag' [03:22:22] I might just use the single engine version for hauling smaller modules out... get the cabin out first, then a power pack with radio relay and solar panels next. [03:26:34] well... its flying at least. [03:29:53] Yea :) that is the trickyest part. [03:30:29] its about same speed but doens't want to fly as high as the twin engine version [03:30:55] then again, I've also added a few more parts to the 'cabin' part [03:39:51] Air intakes may very well be why it does not want to fly as high [03:42:03] well.. 6 km up.. but its doing a little less than 200m/s [03:42:24] dont' matter much.. it just means longer flight [03:44:40] Higher altitude is generally a lot more fuel efficient, since less drag. [03:44:58] as long as you have enough wing that your higher angle of attack does not cause more drag then you saved [03:45:47] Action: BlackMoon renames self clippy. "I see your trying to make an aircraft! let me annoy you with that. [03:45:56] I may have brought along too much fuel.. lol [03:46:17] never too much fuel! [03:46:32] maybe less drag but lower done engine works harder [03:46:47] higher up.. lower thrust... tradeoffs [03:46:58] if you ever find you have too much just drop the droptanks on some poor and homeless kerbals, they can use it to keep warm at night. [03:47:42] Yes, but you need less thrust because of drag. eventually you reach a point your going slower though, and that sucks. [03:49:50] trouble is finding that altitude, stable thrust, right pitch angle that gives lift but doesn't drag too much you start slowing down [03:50:25] Yep, you definitely got all the fine details down. [03:54:10] I tend to find with some mild intake spam, 20km is a good starting point. But without intake spam you are limited to a lot lower. [03:55:11] intake spam... used to be a big thing for a lot of people back in early days of ksp [03:55:37] I didn't bother myself [03:56:55] Yea, it looks pretty ugly, but still, 2 or 4 intakes per engine can be worked into designs to not look too horrible. [03:57:14] the radials are not too bad, though add a lot of drag. [03:57:43] oddly, less drag when facing backwards, though intake much less air... but you can spam a TON of them backwards and have less drag them having them forwards :P [03:57:54] the mass creeps up on you though hahah. [03:58:00] they make for good water pontoons [03:58:06] hahah. [03:58:28] nah what you do is make tiny hydroplane fins [03:58:56] Iv supported 200tons with just like 400kn, at 200m/s on hydroplane fins over the water. [03:59:23] like 4 or 8 of the smallest fins in the game [03:59:45] (though I usually use procedural wings for that, but still, tiny ones) [04:00:47] trick is getting the right pitch that you don't keep bouncing outta the water :) [04:01:21] with modified impact stats on the fins, iv gotten up to 1200m/s on the water with hydroplaning. [04:02:02] ouch [04:02:10] almost to the pole again... get some daylight here [04:02:47] 200m/s hydroplane is pretty doable with stock parts though. [04:05:10] Highly recommend trying it some day if you have a huge amount of mass you want to move over the ocean :) [04:05:56] Works very well with mechjeb to keep heading/stability/etc. [04:09:23] now that I'm in some daylight [04:09:24] https://imgur.com/a/geesGvd [04:09:24] https://i.imgur.com/FUmtL5x.jpg [04:10:36] Nice. see try a stack decoupler off the cockpit to hold it instead, and unclip the top engine, I bet it would have a LOT less drag. [04:10:49] just cause KSP thinks stacks = awesome, radial = bad [04:11:07] no room for more parts [04:11:12] you can even have the decoupler to the docking port, or just docking port to bare cockpit (you can still undock) [04:11:34] You have a front docking port, just mate that to the cockpit [04:11:48] 600 of 1120 fuel still unused.. near the pole [04:11:53] well the fuel tank [04:13:05] Anyway, just a thought to make it go faster/save a lot of fuel. seems like you don't really need it if you can reach the poles though :) [04:18:45] I guess I could have docked to the back of the tank but.. probably would have wanted the top port of moving around later.. I'm still testing things out [04:19:04] I might switch to end docking instead.. [04:19:23] though when I think about it, would cause problems if I were to add more cabins to the base.. [04:20:56] I ended up switching from the flat adapter plate to a small round battery for a step up to the door. battery was like 1/4th the weight, plus it could hold a charge [05:21:30] lol.. one of many eclipses... https://imgur.com/a/QytxmGg [05:21:30] https://i.imgur.com/XqdBBnu.jpg [05:30:59] still 1.5 hours until stream starts [05:34:35] launch? [05:34:46] take 2 [05:34:51] after last night's d�b�cle [05:37:10] um.. dare I ask what happened? [05:37:15] nothing [05:37:33] especially with the "updates" they gave us [05:39:01] they scrubbed the launch [05:39:09] and were extremely vague as to why [05:40:51] all we now a cat climbed the rocket [05:41:29] or onw of the operators had to go to the toilet [05:41:32] or snake [05:42:20] nobody would have cared for the snake [05:47:02] yesterday it was 19 years ago i have seen the total eclipse. so long ago [05:54:02] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZcM11982r8 [05:54:03] YouTube - KSP - "Eve Fall" - Green Harvest ep.1 [05:56:35] snake because I saw a picture of a giant one climbing up the side of someone's house [05:56:43] yes is saw that too [06:00:06] critters who got too close to launches... oh ya, don't mind the animated monster spider there: https://sploid.gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-of-animals-and-rocket-launches-not-gett-1301141640/1307400203 [06:00:21] hehe [06:00:26] looks like it is petting the shuttle [06:01:02] vulture that decided to fly over the shuttle as it launched, got hit [06:02:36] that frog though.. meme'd [06:02:45] yes the frog is meme [06:03:48] lol the woodpecker [06:04:32] well hey.. foam, next.. why not? [06:05:24] less than an hour [06:05:28] until stream starts [06:05:56] so.. fwoom, or boom? [06:08:48] which steam you going to watch? [06:09:15] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0 [06:09:15] YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV [06:13:19] ... such a big fairing for little craft.. [06:13:36] it is just as wide as the rocket [06:13:39] cant go smaller [06:15:20] Hm, only 75 minutes until launch. [06:15:55] ;8ball coffee? [06:15:55] UmbralRaptor: Concentrate and ask again [06:16:03] hehe [06:16:10] well long fairing.. so much room up front [06:30:29] half an hour until stream start [06:38:42] ? [06:39:01] we want to see a rocket set itself on fire [06:52:03] NolanSyKinsley: NASA's launching a mission to the nearest star. [06:52:10] hehe [06:52:38] That's right, that's happening today [06:52:46] This is naturally the highest �V launch ever. [06:52:47] just as it happened yesterday :) [06:53:19] what are we doing, brain? the same thing we do every day, pinky, try to send a probe to the nearest star [06:53:44] I got excited for a moment, then... "oh, right, it's only 150million km away" [06:53:52] hehe [06:54:04] taniwha: :D [06:54:14] :) [06:55:55] from setting rocket on fire to setting probe ablaze... [06:56:22] ... you think the heat waves were bad enough.. you seen nothing yet [06:56:23] Will the vehicle get close enough to the sun where it will experience drag? [06:56:25] and among other things it carries the names of famous kerbals :) [06:57:00] no but carbon disk will be floating around then sun till end of the solar system.. so they say [07:00:33] here we go again [07:01:22] lol that lag [07:01:45] all these people woke up this early twice in a row [07:01:51] are you just watching it on nasa.gov? [07:02:02] on yt [07:02:04] ... waking up early? uhhhh.... I not gone to sleep yet. midnight here [07:02:15] not you, the people on the launch site [07:02:21] heh [07:02:26] and i meant the lag between the sound and video [07:02:32] peh... right.. like how many even went to sleep even there.. :P [07:02:50] Aren't philadelphia and DC pretty near each other [07:03:58] How much does each scrub cost? [07:04:24] probably not much in itself, but the next unplanned launch cost is added [07:04:58] Althego: Wasted fuel + Personnel? [07:05:40] wasted fuel.. you mean the cyro fuels? [07:05:45] hat is not too much [07:06:23] JVFoxy: Cryo fuel, plus whatever gets vented off [07:06:43] well it gets vented off, but they can generate more... its actually renewable source, unlike the carbon based rocket fuels [07:07:12] there was some info on one of the falcon 9 launches that the closed airspace required resulted in delays in flights and that costed a lot, although it is not spacex that suffers that loss [07:07:13] for hydrogen [07:07:45] hydrogen and oxygen.. its just split water.. the resulting gas is just super chilled [07:07:57] !wa Philly to DC distance [07:08:02] I mean, or from natural gas [07:08:06] i doubt they are making it from water [07:08:27] 203 km [07:08:28] or even if they do, not with electricity [07:08:32] Wait what [07:08:47] Okay, they didn't break their numbers. [07:09:08] but, I imagine RP-1 is more of a pain [07:09:20] liquid hydrogen is pretty cool [07:09:24] (get what I did there) [07:09:24] hehe [07:09:25] RP1 isn't cryogenic [07:09:32] unless you are spacex [07:10:19] still 20 minutes [07:10:44] water is one source... [07:13:44] ;c 3.83e6*1609.344 [07:13:44] UmbralRaptor: 6163787520 [07:14:21] stupid miles? [07:14:28] yep [07:14:45] ;c 3.83e6*1609.344/1e9 [07:14:45] UmbralRaptor: 6.16378752 [07:14:54] too bad you can't commute to work on rockets [07:15:03] who said you cant [07:15:09] ;c 3.83e6*1609.344/1.4e9 [07:15:09] UmbralRaptor: 4.402705371428571 [07:16:15] ... well if super planes were a thing.. [07:16:44] this doctor has a strange voice [07:16:52] cartoon character [07:18:02] oh sorry.. ultraplanes.. rocket powered commercial airliners [07:18:05] 14 mins [07:20:01]