[00:33:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:44:49] hi [02:44:56] HOw you doin [02:45:14] im just here bc im bored lol [02:45:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asy-XN_C5Lg [02:45:41] hah [02:45:51] you will like it [02:46:18] Mod9000 how are you? [02:47:14] https://youtube.com/user/NocturnoPlays [02:47:25] ;-) [02:49:00] bye [03:29:33] blink [03:31:39] geez maybe its a bot lol [07:29:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:33:49] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:33:49] I want lift back for Kerbals. [11:33:57] When skydiving. [11:37:35] Did they ever have that? [11:37:42] I thought they only had drag [11:37:48] yes [11:38:11] Unless I was just imagining it. [11:39:47] But it would only come back post 1.8.1, and I'm not sure I want that. Maybe with a new graphics card/computer. [12:44:09] it might be possible to patch a lifting surface into the Kerbal EVA "part" [12:44:19] not sure how those things work, though [12:45:21] Actually, I'm not playing KSP much any more, so it's not very important. [13:35:44] landing on moho is so damn hard [13:36:11] not really, landing is the easy part. getting there however... [13:39:32] :(. [13:47:32] Anyone else playing FTL? [13:47:55] I just got a Glaive Beam on the second fight of the first sector : [13:47:57] :D [13:59:04] ...and now I have a pre-igniter [14:56:06] NGC3982: Go to Minmus, then ;). [14:56:23] Gilly is funny, too. [14:57:14] All you need for Moho is enough TWR and dv. [14:57:26] EER shows you TWR. [14:57:34] for different bodies. [15:02:49] i got a bug whilst warping [15:02:58] so i couldnt exit the warp and was unable to use controls [15:03:00] so i quick saved [15:03:15] f9 didnt respond to quick loading and now i cant find the save where i even have the craft [15:04:11] oh god i found it [15:14:53] aaaand i didnt have enough fuel anyway [15:14:57] for god sake [15:15:31] maybe i should rething this all together. instead of packing enormous amounts of dV from kerbin i could build a somewhat empty liquid fuel setup and refuel on minmus [15:17:37] aaaaand i put all my funds into this and quicksaved so no reverting [15:17:40] and no new funds [15:17:48] so that's it for this playthrough i guess [15:27:44] the game makes backups [15:28:50] this was a good indication of it being time to start over with a new company [19:21:18] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:30:52] I'm looking to get an M.2 SSD. This is new ground for me... any recommendations? [19:31:15] I don't know what the exact specs of my machine are, but I know that this one fits https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Information-512GB-MTS400-TS512GMTS400/dp/B016W1PP5K/ [19:31:57] hehe i didnt know transcend is still around [19:32:33] i would look at benchmarks [19:32:40] Heck... last time I bough a hard drive Seagate was the best of the best [19:32:41] or maybe just buy a samsung [19:32:46] lol [19:32:56] when, 10 years ago? [19:33:00] More [19:33:31] It was a SCSI2 [19:33:41] Amiga 1200 [19:33:50] :) [19:33:51] the title says sata 2 [19:33:52] 3 [19:33:55] lol [19:34:09] I believe the HDD I bought was something like 256 MB [19:34:49] This is how out of date I am. Is SATA III good or what? [19:35:08] no, not really. i would go with m.2 for an ssd [19:35:34] I thought this was m.2 [19:35:47] the image is [19:36:04] Description says "M.2 SSD" [19:36:04] but there is also a sata 3 in the title [19:36:34] Are you sure you're not looking at the "Lower Priced Items to Consider"? [19:37:14] Oh right I see it now [19:37:46] M.2 seems like a minefield the more I look into it. So many standards [19:37:55] I was told that this one works [19:38:41] most of the standards are just different lengths [19:38:48] the only minefield could be the nvme, but that doesnt help a normal user that much [19:39:06] OK, so I can have 42 mm length [19:39:16] Is there anything else I should think about? [19:39:48] make sure its not QLC [19:39:53] hehe, true [19:40:04] What's QLC? [19:40:08] quad level cell [19:40:33] the newest and cheapest technology, because it has more bits in the same area [19:40:49] however it doesnt have good properties [19:40:59] Aha [19:41:17] What about.... this one? https://www.dustinhome.se/product/5011067237/solid-state-drive [19:41:20] it goes liek this: slc, mlc, tlc qlc [19:41:50] you are looking for a sata ssd? [19:41:58] 500 MBps read/165 write [19:42:03] I'm looking for m.2 [19:42:19] SATA m.2 or NVME m.2? [19:42:52] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:43:19] cause your motherboard may only support only one or the other [19:43:53] Well... I was read online (so it must be true!) that this one works https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Information-512GB-MTS400-TS512GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4/?th=1 [19:44:00] That one is SATA III [19:44:39] But Althego implied that SATA and m.2 were mutually exclusive, I must have misunderstood [19:45:09] maybe i dont undertand this as much as i thought i did [19:45:25] I've got a 256gb samsung sata m.2 drive that I'm not using. You in the US? [19:46:01] Unfortunately not - Scandinavia [19:46:19] :( [19:46:27] but to me sata what goes on to a sata interface. m.2 can be ahci or nvme [19:46:33] you need to check the motherboard [19:47:05] Althego, people tend to conflate ahci and sata [19:48:16] I'm reading here and NVMe apparently doesn't work https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-S-Series-ThinkPad-Yoga/Thinkpad-Yoga-460-M-2-interface/td-p/3854436 [19:48:18] is the drive/motherboard NVMe? [19:48:44] Deddly, thats what it looks like [19:48:44] so, then it is slower [19:48:53] I think it's SATA [19:48:58] yes [19:49:03] AHCI [19:49:30] the keying looks the same as mine. so its SATA/AHCI [19:49:35] many times ppl confuse the form factor with the protocols supported [19:49:51] still, it is small [19:49:56] This one? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z8BYOWG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00Z8BYOWG&linkCode=as2&tag=exoidcom-20&linkId=563874011aeddfe9dae546caf8cd1799 [19:50:03] and most probably you will not notice too big difference [19:50:05] anyway, even if it is ahci, an m.2 drive can have a way bigger throughput than a sata [19:50:15] unless you try something IO heavy [19:50:32] how so? [19:52:24] See, this is what I meant when I said that there are so many standards it's like a minefield [19:52:40] m2 is a form factor [19:53:00] then what is carried over it is another question [19:53:06] its not nearly as bad as type-c [19:53:16] with NVMe you will have a fast drive [19:53:33] with a non-NVMe it is "just" a SATA3 [19:53:40] will you see any diff? [19:53:48] no :) [19:55:02] The m.2 interface on my machine seems to be undocumented [19:55:11] how nice of them [19:55:32] But the people who have tried this seem to be using SATA devices [19:57:18] All I know for sure right now is that it should be 2242 [19:59:32] that is tiny [20:00:14] all this because m.2 was intended as a laptop thing but then it went on to the desktop too [20:00:26] This is for a laptop, so... [20:00:48] I only need it because the built in 2.5" SSD is full [20:01:13] I don't want the hassle of replacing the entire drive, so I thought this would be easier. [20:02:46] So if I understand this correctly: m.2 is the form factor, 2242 means 22mm x 42 mm dimensions. SATA is the physical connector, NVMe is a protocol, but if the motherboard doesn't support it, it will still work. Correct? [20:03:22] PCIe is the other main type of physical connector [20:03:41] So... any m.2 2242 SATA card should work, presumably [20:03:51] watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx0ynC8Thlw [20:12:56] kubi, 5:30 ... does that mean that SATA is volatile?? [20:15:07] hehe i think i got it now. to me m.2 always ment pcie, because in a desktop it is pointless otherwise. and pcie is always faster than sata, regardless of having or not having nvme. but in a laptop it makes sense that they connected a sata line to the m.2 port [20:17:35] Aaargh I'm going crazy here. Now I just found a driver for my laptop "NVMe Solid State Drive Firmware Update Utility" [20:17:43] hehe [20:17:54] So I still don't know what the heck I need [20:25:32] you need a drive that fits into your motherboard [20:26:01] nvme will be expensive and you will not see any difference [20:26:46] you just delete al kinky videos and you'll have plenty free space and it is free [20:27:53] lol [20:29:20] Probably best to get the exact mode people are saying they're having success with, then? [20:29:25] model* [21:15:07] Thanks for the help guys. Seeyas [22:17:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o TheKosmonaut ' by anarchy.esper.net