[00:49:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably should have brought landing legs to the mun
[00:50:15] <raptop> Mün, Minmus flats, close enough
[03:50:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net
[09:33:41] <Mat2ch> Soooo, SpaceX really wants to do a static fire test with Booster 3?
[09:37:31] <Althego> why not
[09:55:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: I wonder why they do it. To get test data? Test the structure?
[09:55:16] <Mat2ch> They are not going to attach all engines to it
[09:55:25] <Mat2ch> at least I think so
[09:56:16] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I hope they told you that you will reach full 5 G reception in two weeks. ;)
[10:02:56] <Rolf> its unlimited data too
[10:03:55] <Althego> unlimited power!
[10:04:15] <Rolf> its over 9000tb!!!!!!!!
[10:10:23] <Althego> eu approves chatcontrol. what a mess. and we cant talk about it here.
[10:11:34] <darsie> What could you possibly transmit to transfer 9000 TB? 5 D video (see, hear, feel, smell, taste)?
[10:12:34] <darsie> Neuralink?
[10:12:54] <bees> raw sensor data
[10:13:20] <darsie> A buy (web)server?
[10:13:23] <darsie> busy*
[10:14:17] <darsie> Uncompressed video
[10:17:19] <Althego> actually humans collect most information by vision. overwhelmingly. and most of that is black and white data. so even if you add other channels, it wouldnt amount to much
[10:24:45] <darsie> Has there been smell cinema?
[10:25:38] <darsie> Can't be so hard to put some ducts under the seats, preload them with fresh scent and open sliders at the appropriate time.
[10:26:20] <Althego> would get to you slowly
[10:26:32] <Althego> maybe if there was some pipe up to your nose
[10:27:01] <darsie> Can be pretty fast, with a permanent up draft.
[10:27:49] <darsie> Or maybe 2-3 smell lines.
[10:27:56] <darsie> gtg, bbl
[10:37:35] <Mat2ch> Althego: One sentence: Probably get's disallowed by the ECJ
[11:16:00] <Fluburtur> yeah but I already feel it beginning to get better
[11:36:53] <Mat2ch> Good for you. Will get my second shot in five weeks.
[11:37:30] <Althego> for me in about two weeks
[11:37:37] <Mat2ch> But it's Biontech, which means no 5G for me, since it's a German thing and we don't get good internet connection anywhere.
[11:39:01] <Althego> hehe
[11:39:23] <Althego> the best (then 3g) connection i got in germany was always inside military bases :)
[11:39:41] <Althego> hotels usually had wifi and 3g problems too
[11:48:14] <bees> Mat2ch: you will have a voice whispering random german words at you
[11:48:27] <bees> weighted towards long ones
[11:56:08] <Mat2ch> bees: oh, that's ok, I hope they're able to silence the other voices in my head :P
[12:03:20] <minas_tirith> bees, bzzt bzzt
[12:32:15] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: well... the sad thing is the broadband fibre coverage is worse than the 5g coverage :p
[12:32:26] <Althego> hehe
[12:32:30] <Althego> starlink to the rescue
[12:33:29] <Althego> supposedly the net in austria is expensive and slow too. at least a certain bird says so
[12:33:31] <Eddi|zuHause> there was a thing 30-ish years ago where the government/corruption/whatever decided that copper was the way to go
[12:33:40] <Althego> lol
[12:34:15] <Eddi|zuHause> and now they're stacking hacks upon hacks to keep that "last mile" copper thing alive... "vectoring" and stuff
[12:34:58] <Eddi|zuHause> which means it'll be the same in 20-30 years from now. nobody is going to fix the problem
[12:35:33] <Althego> must be like how roads are kept operational here
[12:36:45] <Eddi|zuHause> let's not talk about roads... or i'll have to explain the word "betonkrebs"...
[12:39:26] <Eddi|zuHause> aanyway... this is basically the reason why you can get the same internet connection speed in romania for like 1/5 the price
[12:41:13] <umaxtu> brb, moving to Romania
[12:41:18] <Althego> hehe
[12:42:23] <umaxtu> to be fair, I have gigabit fiber for < $100 a month, but I can't use my own router
[12:42:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm having a different problem though... i forgot to put a heat shield on my mun return vessel
[12:42:39] <umaxtu> oops
[12:42:41] <Althego> hehe
[12:42:46] <Althego> just do many passes
[12:42:57] <Eddi|zuHause> tried that... still exploded
[12:44:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i have a kerbin PE of 45km, which worked fine for reducing the AP, but on the pass where the AP went <70km, it exploded
[12:44:50] <Althego> strange. 100% heating?
[12:45:10] <bees> save whatever dv remaining for final pass
[12:45:13] <bees> and make it steeper
[12:45:25] <Althego> because at point it is like coming back from low orbit, and you dont need a heat shield for that
[12:45:41] <bees> you got hit by accumulated heat in high atmo
[12:45:41] <Eddi|zuHause> i have 600m/s remaining
[12:45:50] <bees> by going too shallow
[12:46:05] <Eddi|zuHause> right
[12:46:15] <Althego> faster slow down helps. so maybe 20 km periapsis?
[12:46:22] <Althego> and use up the remaiing delta v
[12:46:34] <bees> 600 m/s would be a giant overkill, tbh
[12:46:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i had 30km before, there it exploded much earlier
[12:46:46] <Althego> hehe
[12:47:14] <bees> ~200 is usually enough if you dont have 1200k parts exposed
[12:47:29] <Althego> yes, most of the slow done can be done by the atmosphere
[12:47:48] <Althego> usually capsules explode for me if they flip in the wrong direction
[12:47:56] <Althego> and then there is an overheating cascade
[12:48:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i put the engine in front
[12:48:41] <Eddi|zuHause> it's a terrier engine
[12:50:32] <bees> so use majority of your dv to slow down from moon (to save time), do passes at 45km until ~120k AP, then drop to 20km PE and use remaining dv in atmo when you start to overheat
[12:50:38] <bees> i assume you reentry engine first
[12:53:31] <Eddi|zuHause> the first pass lowers AP to around 4.5Mm, which takes around 4h roundtrip
[12:56:34] <bees> i mean save real time
[12:58:07] <Eddi|zuHause> i have plenty of that :p
[13:02:59] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... according to https://op.europa.eu/webpub/eca/special-reports/broadband-12-2018/img/En_annex01.png france and greece are worse than germany
[13:09:31] <Althego> https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/DILUEvStls.png
[13:10:46] <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is pulled pork anyway?
[13:11:00] <Althego> that ius the only actual food that exist from that diagram
[13:11:09] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
[13:11:13] <Eddi|zuHause> but what is it?
[13:12:01] <Althego> meat from pig that looks like it was shred to small pieces
[13:12:46] <Eddi|zuHause> so it would mean Mett :)
[13:14:53] <Eddi|zuHause> no.. that doesn't look anything like Mett
[13:37:58] <Althego> hehe bird cant stream because of charging problem on the capture phine
[13:42:24] <raptop> SnoopJ: oh no
[13:43:06] <SnoopJ> chaotic pork?
[13:44:03] <raptop> chaotic pork is when a lorenz butterfly flaps over your plots
[13:45:38] <Eddi|zuHause> chaotic good pork?
[13:45:44] <Althego> hehe
[13:51:00] <Eddi|zuHause> you know what's annoying? when watering, and the craft wobbles up and down in the water, you can't press the "recover" button because it's moving too fast
[13:51:27] <Eddi|zuHause> now... i got 690 science from the mun landing
[13:51:50] <Althego> hehe i was wondering what watering would mean in the context of rockets :)
[13:52:11] <Eddi|zuHause> it's like landing. but in the water.
[13:52:26] <Althego> yes, but watering is what you do to plants
[13:52:29] <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you put water on the rocket and it grows :p
[13:52:39] <Althego> anyway, yes, annyoing
[13:54:03] <Eddi|zuHause> now... the usual decision paralysis... what do i research?
[13:55:18] Action: raptop is pretty sure that's how rocket gardens work
[14:02:24] <Althego> i know of atomic gardening, but not rocket gardening
[14:03:57] <Althego> so, first bezos, then nauka. somehow they have to connect the new module
[14:08:19] <Althego> hopefully both go to space next week
[14:12:24] <umaxtu> I thought Bezos was the 30th
[14:13:10] <Althego> i see 20th
[14:14:01] <umaxtu> I guess I was mistaken
[14:14:33] <umaxtu> so Branson had Colbert on his webcast, who do you think Bozos is going to have?
[14:15:27] <Althego> hopefully nobody
[14:15:46] <umaxtu> Colbert is a ULA shill anyway :D
[14:16:47] <raptop> Obviously Colbert should interview Tory
[14:17:34] <umaxtu> could be interesting
[14:20:39] <Althego> no, elon should interview tory :)
[14:22:50] <raptop> Nah, Shotwell
[14:45:19] <Eddi|zuHause> when i put rover wheels on a thing... can i somehow change which direction is forward?
[14:45:30] <Eddi|zuHause> because the steering is all wrong
[14:45:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i have an OKTO as probe core, but i don't want to rotate it
[14:45:54] <Althego> some items have an option in the right click menu
[14:46:37] <Eddi|zuHause> "Control Point: Forward"?
[14:48:13] <Althego> that
[14:50:41] <Eddi|zuHause> so... forward/backward works, but left/right is all wrong. and navball is 90° rotated... shows heading north when i'm driving west
[14:56:12] <packbart> stick a small docking port on its nose
[14:59:50] <darsie> picoport ftw
[14:59:54] <darsie> 5 kg
[15:00:12] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, now left/right works, but forward is backward :p
[15:00:30] <Eddi|zuHause> and i have not enough solar panels
[15:15:05] <Eddi|zuHause> now i have sort of an automated rover. but no launch vehicle to get it to the mun
[15:17:34] <Althego> kikkerikii
[15:18:05] <Althego> haha it was a cable problem
[15:18:20] <Althego> but now it is going to overlap with ame
[15:19:02] <raptop> Did a cat chew on the cable?
[18:04:17] <Althego> hehe fresh bread eating. what a content
[18:07:20] <Althego> + cat purring
[18:07:38] <raptop> caaaat
[18:10:52] <Althego> finally, i found it, the written data count is incremented for every 32 megabytes. smartctl in buster doesnt know about the discontinued intel dc s4500 and s4600. 
[18:57:02] Action: darsie built a fast car to get some surface samples and EVA reports: https://i.postimg.cc/vG9BWpvZ/screenshot146.png
[19:45:14] <darsie> The olivine formation was to far below the base plane of the arm, but with the RW I could tilt it :) https://i.postimg.cc/Xn69RMxT/screenshot155.png
[19:46:16] Action: raptop has no idea if the olivine is stock or a mod
[19:52:21] <raptop> Althego: consider: cirno and gura are the same person
[19:52:30] <Althego> hmm
[19:52:34] <Althego> blue
[19:52:50] <raptop> smol
[19:52:52] <Althego> but the teeth
[19:52:57] <raptop> no thoughts, head empty
[19:53:41] <Althego> cant listen to scott over two streams
[20:26:43] <darsie> I broke my arm :(.
[20:27:04] <darsie> going 50 m/s.
[20:27:38] <darsie> raptop: stock
[21:08:03] Action: darsie roved like 80 km.
[21:11:02] <darsie> This was fun: https://i.postimg.cc/kn06LzQ2/screenshot158.png
[21:11:02] <darsie> But this was scary: https://i.postimg.cc/08FDPbs2/screenshot166.png
[21:15:56] <raptop> whee
[21:18:42] <Solar_Oracle> Everybody dead? I mean alive.
[21:19:47] <darsie> .
[21:20:01] <Solar_Oracle> More corpses to convert into kethane!
[21:25:17] Action: raptop skitters away
[21:26:22] <Solar_Oracle> I think I'll do a whole bunch of chapter updates tonight so I can transition to a new program.
[21:26:41] <Solar_Oracle> One which will secure my rightful place as . . . Something other than that one person that reads terrible books.
[21:56:57] <raptop> "If you want to get good at speedrunning, get good at spreadsheets"
[21:58:38] <Solar_Oracle> Speedrunning for what, EVE Online?
[21:59:00] <raptop> Heh
[21:59:08] <raptop> Surprisingly enough Doom Eternal
[21:59:25] <Solar_Oracle> I'm sure there's some material for a peer reviewed paper right there.
[21:59:50] <Solar_Oracle> "Speedrunning through Doom Eternal with the help of neural-networks: An analysis"
[22:06:09] <Solar_Oracle> "Discussion: Git gud, scrub."
[22:15:20] <umaxtu> I mean, as far as I can tell, Doom Eternal is a technical marvel in terms of optimization
[22:24:55] <Solar_Oracle> Oh, remember those grav rifles with the relativistic projectiles? They have pistol versions, too.
[22:27:24] <raptop> Like a certain xeelee weapon?
[22:28:33] <Solar_Oracle> Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, they can't make stars go nova.
[22:28:56] <Solar_Oracle> Xeelee pistol op plz nerf. 
[23:04:33] <Solar_Oracle> And another chapter up.
[23:09:13] <minas_tirith> Solar_Oracle
[23:09:33] <Solar_Oracle> DO YOU WISH TO CONSULT THE ORACLE?
[23:27:17] <Solar_Oracle> Guess not, then.