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[01:26:08] <ve2dmn> KrazyKrl: when will you find time OUTSIDE of Factorio? It's like a drug...
[01:35:30] <Draconiator> lol
[01:37:39] <Draconiator> Been wondering, should I keep the CPU cooler off of my older computer for when I build the new one?It's a fan with an aluminum heat sink on it, about 4"x4"x3"
[01:49:05] <Draconiator> https://www.amazon.com/PartsCollection%C2%AE-LYSB002TC649I-ELECTRNCS-Asus-13G075135022H2-COOLER/dp/B002TC649I - GOOGLE STRIKES again.  I reallty should not ask anything anymore....grrr
[12:12:03] <GlassYuri> ...my school has apparently rebranded from tokyo net wave to tokyo cool japan
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[15:26:22] <Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1005577738332172289
[15:26:22] <kmath> <elonmusk> SpaceX option package for new Tesla Roadster will include ~10 small rocket thrusters arranged seamlessly around car& https://t.co/w5AdnC49iu
[15:26:34] <Althego> you cant tell if he is joking or not
[15:29:41] <ve2dmn> I can't bet again Elon: He makes high-risk, but  high-reward bets
[15:30:14] <ve2dmn> So far, it's hard to know if he was just lucky or if he is a genius... probably a bit of both
[15:31:05] <ve2dmn> The good thing so far: Even if he fails he pushed the markets in Rockets and in Car in directions I like
[15:43:25] <darsie> Error downloading KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.5.2: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found.
[15:44:08] <Althego> works for me https://github.com/jrbudda/KerbalEngineer/releases
[15:44:27] <ve2dmn> isn't KER getting a new dev these days?
[15:44:28] <darsie> I'm using ckan
[15:44:45] <Althego> this is the new release
[15:44:51] <Althego> with the new dev
[15:45:13] <ve2dmn> darsie: check CKAN: it might have 2 entries for KER
[15:45:23] <Althego> you have to ask yourself, do you want the mod, or do you want the management?
[15:45:29] <darsie> KER stopped showing me 1/2 burn time.
[15:45:47] <Althego> 1.1.5.2 is the same as this so probably tries to get this one
[15:46:00] <Althego> maybe somewhere there is an incorrect repo url. i dont know how ckan works
[15:47:56] <ve2dmn> darsie: switch to kOS... make you own display :D
[15:52:27] <APlayer> What ve2dmn said ^
[15:56:54] <ConductorCat> :3
[16:53:05] <Althego> why does the aerospike have 20 m/s tolerance? it is way better than most landing legs
[16:53:35] <kubi> all engine bells are just too good
[16:53:58] <Althego> yes they tolerate the whole weight of anything
[16:58:28] <Mat2ch> they have to, they push the rockets to space!
[17:10:45] <Althego> ok the toroidals are poor landing legs because they are slippery
[17:11:06] <Althego> one would think the spike digs in the ground, but no, too little contact surface so they are like iceskates
[17:11:14] <Althego> but the nukes are ok
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[18:29:17] <Althego> it is getting worse https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/02077/mcam/2077ML0110290000801230E01_DXXX.jpg
[18:30:37] <ve2dmn> Wow
[18:31:01] <ve2dmn> So that's the worse that Mars has?
[18:31:19] <APlayer> Looks pretty much similar to what I see out of my window
[18:31:24] <Althego> hehe
[18:32:37] <JCB> mm... polution... j/k
[18:34:27] <Althego> land of sand, home of the spice
[18:35:18] <ve2dmn> May his passing cleanse the world
[18:37:05] <Fluburtur> I played a bit with carbonic ice today
[18:37:07] <Fluburtur> it is fun
[18:37:45] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice ?
[18:38:22] <Fluburtur> yeah
[18:38:42] <Fluburtur> it is rather fun to hold in the hand
[18:38:55] <Fluburtur> just move it so it doesn't stay in the same spot for too long
[18:39:04] <ve2dmn> https://translate.google.com/#fr/en/glace%20carbonique
[18:39:21] <Fluburtur> kinda weird too because usually you would expect ice to be wet but it isn't the case since it turns into a gaz
[18:39:41] <Fluburtur> also my first pay came in so that's good
[18:39:56] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Pay for what?
[18:40:04] <Fluburtur> my job
[18:40:29] <Althego> for playing with thermometers :)
[18:40:42] <Fluburtur> and mercury
[18:40:44] <Fluburtur> and dry ice
[18:40:58] <Fluburtur> haven't played with liquid nitrogen yet however
[18:40:59] <APlayer> Lazy folk over there
[18:41:07] <Fluburtur> also, how do you get ants out of a plane?
[18:41:22] <Fluburtur> because the ants decided it would be a good idea to store their eggs inside the canadair
[18:41:27] <Althego> keep an anteater as a pet
[18:41:30] <APlayer> That sounds like the beginning of a bad joke
[18:41:39] <JCB> ants worse than snakes on a plane?
[18:41:45] <APlayer> "How do you get an elephant into a fridge"
[18:41:45] <Fluburtur> it isn't a joke but it is kinda bad
[18:41:46] <JCB> .... sorry
[18:42:12] <Althego> in 3 steps. open the door. put in the elephant. close the door
[18:42:24] <Althego> how do you put a giraffe in the fridge?
[18:42:31] <JCB> trick question.. didn't say what kind of fridge or how big. :)
[18:42:36] <Althego> in 4 steps. open the door. take out the elephant, put in the giraffe. close the door
[18:42:48] <APlayer> Althego: You missed the hippopotamus
[18:42:54] <Althego> oh whatever
[18:42:59] <Althego> i just remembered two animaks
[18:43:00] <JCB> I can do it in one step... just build the fridge around any of them
[18:43:23] <Fluburtur> guess I will put a garden hose in the plane and turn it on
[18:43:38] <Fluburtur> shouldn't damage anything but I should get the receiver out first
[18:43:50] <JCB> fluburtur try explosive decompression?
[18:44:09] <Fluburtur> uh
[18:44:15] <Fluburtur> not airtight enough
[18:44:23] <Althego> hehe
[18:44:25] <JCB> wait.. what kind of plane?
[18:44:31] <Althego> everything is, if the shockwave is fast enough
[18:44:33] <Fluburtur> also how would I do that, it is too small to fit in the vacuum chambers at my job
[18:44:53] <Fluburtur> also my plane misses half a wing so it can't fly to high altitude anyways
[18:44:56] <Althego> the candair model that was collected from the island
[18:45:06] <JCB> oh model plane?
[18:45:08] <Althego> after it spent severl months up a tree, then under it
[18:45:33] <Fluburtur> yeah
[18:45:36] <JCB> guessing Styrofoam?
[18:45:44] <Fluburtur> yeah extruded styrofoam
[18:45:58] <Fluburtur> there is no electronics in the body of the plane other than the receiver
[18:46:04] <Fluburtur> so I could jsut flood them away
[18:46:08] <JCB> that case... ya, remove electronics, just spray it with shower head/hose
[18:46:21] <JCB> don't use any pressure, it'll mess with the foam. :\
[18:46:48] <Fluburtur> problem is, I will have to remove the receiver with the ants still inside
[18:46:56] <Althego> heh, i just saw the trailer for ghost of tsushima. it looks amazing. of course console only
[18:47:01] <JCB> gloves help
[18:47:10] <Fluburtur> but idk, those receivers resit water pretty well so I could just flood it with the receiver in
[18:47:13] <JCB> ants usually don't pose problems, unless they fire ants
[18:47:15] <Fluburtur> just dry it later
[18:47:17] <Althego> nice try sony, but you have to come to my dark side if you want my money
[18:47:58] <JCB> eh.. I'd take the receiver out anyways.. just to be safe
[18:48:08] <ve2dmn> Althego: Nintendo managed to convince me
[18:48:23] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Submerge it in CO2?
[18:48:28] <Fluburtur> good idea
[18:48:40] <Fluburtur> im gonna pack a bunch of dry ice in a thermo
[18:48:42] <Althego> or even liquid nitrogen
[18:48:53] <Fluburtur> won't look weird dripping white smoke on the train
[18:48:55] <APlayer> N2 won't stay in an open container for long
[18:49:04] <Althego> dont need to
[18:49:04] <APlayer> Nor would CO2, but it would last longer
[18:49:08] <Althego> kills them on touch
[18:49:21] <APlayer> LN2 probably also kills the electronics on touch
[18:49:26] <ve2dmn> I learn that caffeine is soluble in liquid CO2
[18:49:42] <ve2dmn> the problem is getting room-temp liquid CO2
[18:49:42] <APlayer> I'm talking about gaseous N2
[18:50:12] <JCB> you could try burying the plane in diatomaceous earth....
[18:50:26] <JCB> the stuff gets into insect joints, cuts them up
[18:50:28] <Althego> just who came up with this word...
[18:50:49] <Fluburtur> listen the plane is already dirty enough
[18:51:02] <JCB> ... its just a white powder
[18:51:22] <Fluburtur> only water or dry ice
[18:51:29] <Fluburtur> does dry ice damage foam?
[18:51:36] <Fluburtur> I guess it could make it brittle
[18:51:37] <Althego> high pressure water should do
[18:51:37] <JCB> it can make it brittle
[18:51:38] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Also, try ethanol
[18:51:44] <Fluburtur> eh I guess
[18:51:50] <JCB> just use water then... at least that way it'll wash it too same time
[18:52:01] <Fluburtur> I do want to kill all those ants
[18:52:08] <Althego> submerge in acetone :)
[18:52:09] <ve2dmn> Ethanol is for driking, not cleaning
[18:52:10] <APlayer> Violent dude
[18:52:25] <Fluburtur> I don't need several thousand ants in my house
[18:52:33] <Althego> keep them as pets :9
[18:52:37] <APlayer> ve2dmn: I thought in Canada, you used maple syrup instead
[18:52:40] <JCB> take the ants far enough away from the nest, they'll be lost, die on their own
[18:52:55] <Fluburtur> they are far from it already
[18:53:00] <Fluburtur> they were on an island
[18:53:01] <ve2dmn> APlayer: anything with Sugar in it can be turned into alcohol
[18:53:27] <Fluburtur> can my blood be turned into alcohol?
[18:53:34] <ve2dmn> maple syrup is sugar-water from the blood of tree
[18:53:40] <APlayer> Fluburtur: So, my options would be Ethanol (won't damage the electronics and will evaporate quickly, but could be costly in large quantities) or CO2, which, however, may or may not work
[18:53:40] <JCB> eh.. I'd probably just use compressed air, blow them out of the plane..
[18:54:04] <JCB> when you said 'plane' first thing that came to mind was commercial aircraft, full scale
[18:54:34] <ve2dmn> so I guess, Canadians are technically vampires driking the blood of the Maple trees
[18:55:02] <Fluburtur> eh I will just flood them away, too lazy to do anything else
[18:56:18] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Maple Syrupists
[18:57:07] <JCB> tree sap = blood now huh?
[18:57:25] <Althego> bodily fluid
[18:57:59] <JCB> very slooooooow moving fluid
[18:58:10] <ve2dmn> well, it's more like a mix between blood and plasma for trees
[18:58:31] <JCB> sap kind of makes me think its more a 4th state of matter... solid but still somewhat fluid
[18:58:56] <JCB> mind you... syrup, a bit more fluidy.
[18:59:10] <JCB> wait... 5th state, already have plasma
[19:01:28] <Althego> and quark-gluon plasma
[19:02:10] <Fluburtur> and whatever my room is made of
[19:02:41] <Althego> fluburturium?
[19:02:44] <Althego> that was fast
[19:03:10] <Fluburtur> lel
[19:03:19] <Fluburtur> well it was full of random stuff before
[19:03:20] <APlayer> Bose-Einstein Condensate
[19:03:30] <Althego> that too
[19:03:30] <Fluburtur> now is only half full of random stuff since I cleaned a bit
[19:03:49] <Althego> expands to fil in empty space
[19:05:41] <APlayer> Real optimist here. Half full room.
[19:06:53] <Althego> but what is in the imaginary part?
[19:14:46] <ve2dmn> Althego: Imaginary room? probably something that belongs in SCP-wiki?
[19:15:05] <Fluburtur> there is probably a few of those
[19:16:10] <ve2dmn> like the door with the 12 keys?
[19:16:38] <ve2dmn> or the infinite stairs?
[19:16:51] <Fluburtur> there is a whole bunch of pocket dimensions really
[19:17:09] <Fluburtur> 860 is a really popular but is a good one
[19:17:19] <JCB> hmm.... dimensions...
[19:17:39] <JCB> eh.. I probably shouldn't...
[19:20:30] <ve2dmn> Anyone played Surviving Mars yet?
[19:21:33] <ve2dmn> cuz I found a nice map
[19:21:58] <Althego> no, i meant the real optimist, what is the imaginary then
[19:32:38] <ve2dmn> https://i.redditmedia.com/CKr1PPIcj1DTAhXxhTQyvhQzQWHMzgm9gp6B0IcdGZc.jpg?s=99aedcdf30b6452cf7e226aa8d56482f
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[19:33:28] <Fluburtur> now that I have an actual music room I can do space nerd music like I wanted to
[19:33:46] <Fluburtur> I was thinking some star name could be nice for a name
[19:33:55] <Fluburtur> like NGC something to screw with everyone
[19:34:10] <Fluburtur> but we might not do that because I can't write for crap
[19:37:39] <JCB> aw...
[19:38:30] <JCB> Would love some workspace here at home too, sadly we lost the one room to tenants downstairs complaining about things. (duplex turned quad long before I moved in)
[19:39:26] <JCB> well.. more like guy, and room mate keeps saying he's pushing his weight around, getting more things in his favor than he really should be.
[19:39:34] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/455357325767606274/DSC_9144.JPG
[19:40:42] <JCB> I've a friend who is into drums, though lately, he's been working more on record stuff, mixing, dj'ing
[19:40:56] <Fluburtur> I want to get a trumpet
[19:41:10] <Fluburtur> so everyone can hate me
[19:41:30] <Althego> https://twitter.com/tombellforever/status/1006370881394835456
[19:41:31] <kmath> <tombellforever> For everyone asking for more photos, heres roof fox doing a classic stretch, yawn, straight back to sleep manoeuvre https://t.co/bjUo32Dhzh
[19:42:14] <JCB> guy I was suppose to be helping with some moving today. couple of pianos, couple of organs... 7 filing bins of music sheets...
[19:42:22] <Draconiator> I almost got some bagpipes....when we were all getting our own instruments  Ended up getting a mountain dulcimer.
[19:42:32] <Fluburtur> bagpipes are cool too
[19:43:00] <JCB> strings and drums seem to get quite a lot of attention these days
[19:43:21] <Fluburtur> because easy
[19:43:35] <Fluburtur> I listen to ska punk a lot
[19:43:40] <Fluburtur> like trumpet is cool
[19:44:26] <Fluburtur> or accordion even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-cgvgLrbCo
[19:44:27] <kmath> YouTube - Under the Sun Lyrics - Korpiklaani
[19:44:27] <JCB> you can do a lot with keys too...
[19:44:49] <JCB> though, friend showed me a few videos of a guy doing various things with strings and weird builds
[19:45:13] <Fluburtur> yeah you can get pretty inventive with music
[19:46:02] <JCB> the 'vs' videos they did were pretty humorous.. 
[19:46:35] <Fluburtur> I really like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_r_mlvEfRA
[19:46:35] <kmath> YouTube - DRUM BATTLE - 2010
[19:46:55] <JCB> I don't know about music, but I wish I had the motivation/time to sort of build on a few gaming ideas, 3d models.. a few various things.
[19:47:29] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INu3UQ35yVk - this is close to what I have
[19:48:02] <Fluburtur> nice
[19:48:17] <Fluburtur> actually I should look into actually getting a trumpet now
[19:48:24] <Fluburtur> it isn't that hard apparently
[19:48:40] <Fluburtur> exept the whole making the sound thing but I already tried that with a similar instrument
[19:49:12] <Fluburtur> also the other day I was telling a friend that saxophones were techincally wood winds and not brass winds because of the mouth piece
[19:49:17] <Fluburtur> I think he's still not over it
[19:50:48] <Althego> hehe
[19:50:57] <JCB> honestly, I wouldn't know the diff myself
[19:51:03] <Althego> yes, that is the part that defines them as woodwind
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[19:51:22] <Fluburtur> sax like clarinets and other uses a tiny piece of wood that vibrates
[19:51:39] <JCB> my only experience with anything wind instrument related was the recorders in elementary school. :\
[19:51:40] <Fluburtur> and brass instruments use a sort of hollow mouthpiece and you make the sound with the lips
[19:51:52] <Fluburtur> you literally fart into the instrument with your lips
[19:52:18] <JCB> different lips.. different .... sounds?
[19:52:42] <Draconiator> Actually you kind of raspberry into it.
[19:52:52] <Althego> wetware maintenance
[19:53:06] <JCB> ever get numb-lips from playing too much?
[19:53:20] <Fluburtur> but apparently trumpets come in different tunings so I need to look into that too
[19:53:28] <Fluburtur> yeah apparently that's a problem for new players
[19:53:33] <Fluburtur> can't play for too long at first
[19:53:38] <JCB> :P
[19:53:55] <JCB> friend gets sore fingers from playing guitar too long... figured it be almost the same
[19:54:09] <Fluburtur> but anyways, I need to make my lungs better so trumpet wouldn't be a bad choice
[19:54:15] <Fluburtur> let me tell you about playing bass
[19:54:24] <Fluburtur> because you don't use a pick very often
[19:54:39] <ve2dmn> Bass? He's my favorite Mega Man Character!
[19:54:45] <ve2dmn> (not really)
[19:54:46] <Fluburtur> so the right hand gets destroyed super hard until you play enough to have actual leather on your fingers
[19:55:22] <JCB> sorry.. lefty here...
[19:55:54] <Fluburtur> the hand that makes the strings move
[19:57:19] <Fluburtur> anyways, I guess I would need to ask a trumpet player
[19:57:24] <JCB> I know.. just.. being ... stupid
[19:57:42] <ve2dmn> The best people are lefty... like Link
[19:57:47] <Fluburtur> or you can grab the neck with both hands and use it as a hammer to hit peoples
[19:57:58] <Fluburtur> and my bass is ultra heavy so it works good for that
[19:58:08] <JCB> also a little too creative beyond their means... I'm trying to figure out what i need in order to build a frequency converter for a radio.
[19:58:23] <JCB> I would love to pick up on Oscar 7 with my CB radio... being sideband
[19:58:28] <Fluburtur> there are tubes for that
[19:58:31] <Fluburtur> in old radio
[19:58:35] <Fluburtur> for de-modulating the signal
[19:58:59] <JCB> lol... tubes. Don't knock it. I'd love to build a am broadcast radio with some tubes I have on hand
[20:00:36] <JCB> Oscar 7 is currently the oldest amateur radio satellite currently in orbit, that is still in operation...
[20:43:58] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Life will find a way . . . Except in the interiors of stars. 
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