[00:55:05] If space is the final frontier, what was the first frontier? [00:55:47] Earth [00:56:24] What if you're not a human, huh? [00:57:14] The big bang. [00:58:00] The Planck Epoch, the FIRST frontier. [00:58:19] < Solar_Oracle> What if you're not a human, huh? [00:58:29] It's the first frontier for the corvids also [00:58:29] These are the voyages of the unified fundamental forces. It's mission: The boldly go where space-time has never gone before. [00:58:58] Now if I remember my history correctly, this is also when the Ctan star vampyres first formed. [00:59:29] It's probably fine [00:59:45] They mostly killed eachother and/or were killed by the necronyyr, right? [00:59:47] Though, on second thought, I keep confusing my Warhammer 40,000 rulebooks for history books. [01:00:02] I think the Necrons betrayed them in the new canon. Or was that also true in the old? [01:00:20] < Solar_Oracle > What if you're not human, huh? [01:00:20] Who says that other beings don't think our planet is the first place to go? [01:00:21] Space Tomb Kings are better, anyway. [01:01:01] Hey now, Star Wars doesn't even have an Earth. [01:02:09] How do you know? It's still a universe. They never said a different universe, only a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. [01:02:51] Obviously humans are the real aliens. [01:02:54] star wars physics is, uh, don't think too hard about it [01:03:10] Star Trek physics is easy: Just reverse the polarity. [01:03:53] Atmospheric Pressure and Heat in Star Wars be like; ... [01:05:27] Space battles work like old films of WW2 air battles for Reasons [01:05:44] Well this is one heck of a start: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1768206932538145655/EFCE157A1CE8EEDD3752D86B1D859E783AC0ACBC/ [01:06:05] ...which suggests that a truely subversive sequel trilogy would make things look more like air (and/or naval) combat with 1960s-80s tech [01:06:27] I think we all know technology doesn't advance in Star Wars. They hit a brick wall thousands of years ago. [01:07:15] BattleTech and Elite are among the very few sci-fi franchises I can think of with any real advancements, albeit with the former getting everyone blasted back a hundred years after some mutual thermonuclear exchanges. [01:07:15] There's also weird stuff going on from that backwards look (like how there were no helicopter gunships at hoth or endor, but were at geonisis, etc) [01:07:44] Ehhhh the transport-gunship thing never worked out in real life, either, with the Mi-24s only sparingly carrying crew. [01:09:05] They got space Higgins boats in The Force Awakens and TIE Fighter escorts. [01:09:53] I bet at some point Elon Musk is going to try to invent a real-life lightsaber. [01:09:54] And Rogue One had a transport pressed into a gunship role like the original orbiting gunships of the Vietnam War. [01:11:04] nice [01:12:57] Just install a few guns pointing out one side and you're in business https://i.redd.it/gkya03qsvfqz.jpg [01:14:28] hah [01:18:20] BattleTech's, uh, tech advances significantly enough it becomes a problem in some of the video game adaptations. [01:19:00] Like in MechWarrior 4 and Online, there's simply no reason to use anything other than ClanTech and FedCom Civil War era tech unless you can't afford it. [01:20:44] Especially when you get those sweet, sweet double heat sinks. [01:22:29] Action: raptop isn't sure of a situation where you'd ever want to use single heat sinks with clan tech [01:24:06] We should make a Death Star and gun down all the potentially dangerous Near-Earth objects. [01:24:26] When your 'Mech is deep within Inner Sphere territory and you just suffered a critical that resulted in the loss of your heat sinks? [01:25:00] Though if you are using ClanTech, you're probably a dirty Clanner anyway and should be vaporized. [01:26:38] I had family in Rasalhague! [01:26:55] Sucks to be you then [01:27:50] Iknowrite. [01:28:16] Stupid Mary Sue Clans. [01:29:50] huh, that's a weird star system [01:30:13] BTW what game are you guys talking about [01:30:19] A5III + K6V in a highly eccentric orbit [01:30:49] BattleTech / the various MechWarrior games [01:31:45] BattleTech is bestest Tech [01:33:17] oh [01:33:43] To be fair, I'd make a lousy clanner. Too much wanting to use all that fancy range instead of charging in... [01:36:01] It's always confused me on how Star Wars ships can just move forwards before going upwards when launching from a planet/moon. [01:43:32] @raptop You could always just become an Elemental and use THE CLAW [01:43:55] stabbity? [01:44:01] stabbity! [01:45:53] Can't find it, but there used to be an image of Clan Elementals ripping armor off a 'Mech. [01:46:22] So here's Elementals riding a Nova Cat instead. I'm assuming it overheated and shut down after this image was taken https://imgur.com/sQ2KvQQ [01:47:04] hah [01:47:45] You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like. [01:47:58] The color design reminds me of a Sega Genesis Cartridge Cover. [01:48:45] It's possible that the image is from that approximate era [01:48:46] That'd be virtually all the BattleTech franchise art at one point [01:51:58] https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/7/7d/BattleTech_Master_Rules%2C_Revised.jpg [01:52:04] https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/917mOkmAn8L.jpg [01:52:59] How old is BattleTech/MechWarrior? [01:53:51] The tabletop game started in the mid 1980s [01:55:08] Started in 1984 and surprisingly still existing. [01:56:31] The development of the titular 2018 turn-based video game was even led by one of the original creators of the franchise, Jordan Weisman. [01:56:57] heh, Scott Manley, astronaut killer. "Every time I saw a way to save everyone, I made a suggestion on how to avoid it" [01:58:15] Just like Commander Shepard, you can't save everyone. [01:58:47] packbart: hah, so the inverse of the sorts of consulting that was done for The Martian? [02:00:10] ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hic0mz3_U4c ) [02:00:58] Still more plausible than Gravity. [02:01:27] well, they probably could have saved everyone if they did have redundant life support systems [02:01:42] Or could repair them Apollo 13 style. [02:02:13] I mean, the ship that docked with the Cycler would surely have some of its own contingencies. [02:06:23] I should really get into this Stellaris game. [02:06:31] But now I'm stuck thinking about moar BattleTech [02:06:52] oops [02:09:50] I'm going to turn the whole ironman game into a gigantic AAR, complete with movie posters. [02:11:13] The real twist being that all civilizations, including the one I'm using, are randomly generated. [02:14:52] I'm supposed to bring a Mun stone back to Kerbin, and I found a real one which I don't just walk through, but I'm not sure if taking a surface sample will do the trick: https://i.postimg.cc/y1ywcKGK/screenshot503.png [02:15:33] Pickup Mun Stone [02:15:53] That's the contract: https://i.postimg.cc/6wHPXMJM/screenshot499.png [02:16:22] yeah, it wants you to click the second option from the top in the PAW [02:16:46] Ohh, found it. [02:16:50] thx [02:24:08] i think i'm going to build a new PC for KSP2 [02:25:07] You'll probably have a while to wait. [02:25:19] i'm planning on 2 years from now [02:27:46] Did you hear that KSP is getting it's final update? [02:27:54] yeah [02:28:21] It's kinda sad [02:29:35] it's for the best [02:33:23] stock KAC @_@ [02:33:45] the KSP1 engine is fundamentally flawed [02:34:41] they've gotten everything they could get out of that [02:37:46] At least now more work is being focused into KSP2 [02:38:30] More things will get done faster. [02:44:16] KSP 2's a different team altogether, no? [02:45:41] half and half. "Squad’s efforts will now shift towards joining Intercept Games in the development of Kerbal Space Program 2." [02:45:49] I think so, at least that's what I thought I heard ShadowZone say. [02:46:02] So, it's multiple teams now [02:46:24] Let's see if it gets an Elite Dangerous Odyssey-level launch or a Cyberpunk level launch. [02:47:24] to be fair, Odyssey is playable [02:48:33] Is there a way to see what your Sentinel Telescope is looking at? [02:48:58] Cyberpunk also got mostly fixed. [02:50:56] TwistenX: does it look at anything? I thought it just makes asteroids appear in the tracking station [02:51:43] It says that it "uses infrared light to detect celestial bodies such as asteroids that pose a risk to Kerbin." [02:52:56] Is there even a way to make an actual telescope in KSP? [02:53:44] there's a mod for that or two [02:53:58] I can't get mods, I play on console. [02:54:21] in that case, no, I don't know any way [02:56:03] That's one of the two things I dislike about KSP Console. You get updates later than PC players, and you can't get any mods. [03:00:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Althego' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:04:58] How do you set stages to your "abort" command? [03:05:45] as you put anything in a group [03:06:29] yeah but how do you set it to activate specifically when you press "abort" [03:06:51] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Action_group [03:07:08] ohhh ok [03:36:53] Brownie points for whoever corrected guesses what movie this is riffing on https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1768206932538660774/2ED0C9A7F552F559023CF00831855F87D21EFDBC/ [04:07:27] p [04:23:23] somehow i always forget about event horizon until the weekened [04:24:28] about current space race [04:39:30] what the what is this? win updated yesterday before i went to bed. and i notice some weather - news app thingie on the taskabr. in fahrenheit [04:39:34] cant even change it [04:39:36] cant remove it [04:39:42] iu never asked for this [04:39:55] biden just approved everything nasa asked [04:40:31] akt thats why i stopped using windows few years ago [04:40:37] hah managed to hide it [04:40:47] but cant change the temperature readout [04:41:25] Althego: you can remove it. right-clickt on the taskbar, "news and interests" -> "turn off" [04:41:32] yes i found that [04:41:34] I got that, too [04:41:56] but one would thing it is in its settings or the right click menu changes to its specific settings [04:42:03] mine was showing in °C [04:42:10] usually microsoft is good on global but F thing is weird [04:42:16] i even change the location in it, still was in f [04:42:17] yeah, I was looking at taskbar settings at first [04:42:57] and supposedly there will be some windows announcement from ms [04:43:17] i sure hope not some kind of enforced subscription, because then i am out [04:49:33] yes, i found flat earth content [04:58:33] TEACH THE CONTROVERSY [04:58:40] that is creationism [04:59:22] but before i get to flat earth there is still 2.5 / 2 hours of kiara left from yesterday [05:00:03] You were saying? https://amorphia-apparel.com/storage/images/flatearth/flatearth.1300x700.png?0b0eb676c8812c1f479f4a20a46cbce7 [05:00:17] lol [05:01:06] More recently, I've also seen full out germ theory denial. [05:01:31] I'm not happy with microsoft at the moment, I had to reload windows last night to get windows update to work again [05:01:47] i feel we are always just right next to the crumble of civilizatin [05:01:54] To the extent that they denied that any disease has ever been transmitted from one person to another, which is a concept that precedes germ theory itself. [05:02:55] Oh no, civilization will only collapse when the wi-fi is turned off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoR2QvWSa5A [05:03:15] I still haven't watched that movie [05:03:30] hehe [05:04:58] Here's why you should watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSScZ8P3gnA [08:05:05] Action: Mat2ch pats his penguin OS [08:05:15] not installing weird weather apps since forever. :P [08:37:08] it took them 6 years to get rid of flash [08:37:21] i didnt have flash any of my computers for years before that [08:37:46] i think that was way bigger atrocity [08:40:10] Made fun of flash every new year day that it's 20XX and people still use flash [08:40:31] I was a bit sad, but also happy, when I couldn't do that anymore. [08:42:00] hehe sandy munro and the mach-e thermal system [08:42:22] Good or bad thing? [08:42:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1dQtlrI7uU&t=72s [08:42:56] get the octovalve! [08:43:45] anyway it is unnecessarily complicated [08:44:36] also mach-e, stilly name. i hear it as maquis (star trek) [08:46:31] lol [08:46:50] Munro now doing slapstick :D [08:47:08] that let's get this out and then drops it [08:47:22] also the mystery parts in the car that have scrap if dropped on them [08:52:47] yeah [08:52:55] so, lets drop them and open them up. :D [09:17:23] oh there was a wintergatan video 1 hours ago [09:17:25] 11 [09:24:11] but there is still zombie, i just forgot to say zombanwa [09:45:52] mmx is coming along incely [09:46:26] incel-y? [09:47:08] . [10:01:33] nicely [10:05:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:13:47] Althego: the Mach-E seems to be rushed. Had to be ready to sell. Like if someone just didn't take electric cars seriously. [10:21:36] hehe [10:21:46] the whole car industry [10:21:58] i dont know why oil is so afraid [10:22:06] cars just take a small portion of fuel [10:22:15] ships and planes take more [10:24:15] dunno i find that kinda questionable [10:24:20] theres many boats and planes [10:24:28] but theres thousand times more cars [10:27:06] oil products are used for a wide variety of things [10:27:26] not just personal cars, but also trucks and so forth - that's not going to be replaced with electric for a while [10:27:42] oil for lube and such will never stop [10:27:44] nor plastics [10:28:02] theres discovery on how to turn algae to crude oil, same stuff they pump up [10:28:06] i mean, there's also an effort to reduce usage/dependency on plastic [10:28:09] but its small scale only for now [10:28:55] but yeah, oil from ancient plants needs to be less important in our lives [10:29:25] yeah though we will be able to create some because its very diffult to do some things, like lubes [10:30:05] there's a lot of oil out there still [10:30:21] we can keep using it for a long time for some products if we stop using it for others [10:30:45] yes there is plastics too [10:30:47] kind of like how we should stop using natural diamonds for jewelry [10:31:05] and gold for currency [10:31:22] btw oil may be one of the rarest materials in the universe, since you need life for it [10:31:35] mhm [11:35:20] (local) leet time [11:37:31] . [11:41:34] lol louis. paul has a miku on his desk [11:41:47] (just as me) [14:12:47] there was a guh about 15 minutes ago [16:24:04] what? they want to auction the test pilot seat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUcQmETFmds [16:25:00] because simply selling tickets for it wasnt goodenough [16:25:27] How much is shipping to Austria? [16:26:44] The winning bidder will fly to space on New Shepard’s first human flight on July 20th and will join Blue Origin founder, Jeff Bezos, and his brother Mark. [16:27:07] The bid is on a space flight, too. [16:27:21] at least they go up to 100 km [16:48:20] heh starts at 4-8 million dollars [16:48:23] 4.8 [16:48:45] for a suborbital [16:49:03] highly overpriced [16:55:42] wait until they find oil on Mars. funding expeditions will become easy ;) [16:55:48] lol [16:55:56] i doubt there is oil on mars [16:56:34] but if they find chinese on mars, there will be no need for funding, it is just going to happen :) [17:02:18] 15 million. if they go up to 55 they cvould have just chosen spacex [17:05:36] 28 at the moment [17:06:15] sold [17:06:28] if you have that amount of money, you can just choose spacex [17:31:52] and orbit [17:32:18] exactly [17:32:20] days in orbit [17:32:40] Is there a toilet in DRagon? [17:33:49] I don't think so. [17:34:37] The Apollo astronauts didn't enjoy pooping in bags and kneading in the sterilizing agent. [17:35:58] Fasting for a few days is an option. [17:39:21] there is [17:39:24] on the roof [17:39:38] ahh [17:49:02] i sure hope it doesnt open in case of a botched landing :) [17:51:25] :) [17:51:33] That's probably the least of your worries, though. [17:52:19] Hmm, maybe 2 chutes failing and you come down hard without an angle ... [17:52:32] But the chutes attach all to the same point, I think. [17:56:15] hehe that reminds me of a joke. old farmer goes on an airplane ride. the pilot does all kinds of acrobatic maneuvers. the old guy just says a few word during the flight. i thought so. i thought so. i didnt think that. after they land the pilot asks what these were. i though i was going to wet myself, i thought i was going to crap in my pants, but i didnt think all of that would fall onto my head [18:03:05] Althego I think someone wasn't piloting properly if it ended up on his head. Musta been pulling some negatives there [18:03:25] yes i was thinking about that too [18:05:33] also.. kind of plane matters, open cockpit might have been better. let it fall on someone else instead of your own face [18:05:50] it is just a joke [18:06:07] oh, I know [18:06:28] besides, who'd use a toilet as an airplane seat anyways?:P [18:06:35] Hmm, idk if I tried aerobatics in the Cessna 172 in flightgear. [18:08:44] Action: raptop suspects that the joke is from the 1920s, and implies barnstorming in a biplane [18:09:14] in air cadets, took a flight in a Cessna. They pulled a bit of a nose dive stunt suddenly to startle the one student. Thinking back now, probably not the wisest of moves [18:09:25] at least from the 70s, or may be older [18:09:26] Anyway, WW1 is now closer to the Napoleonic wars than the present [18:09:55] "no new content in decades!1" [18:11:12] uh.. what was that saying? 'War doesn't change...' [18:11:27] not exactly sure on how 'true' that is [18:11:32] war never changes? [18:11:36] [Fallout Narrator Voice] "War. War never changes." [18:12:29] I did like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War though [18:13:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3uBgQmTnk&t=110s [18:15:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RIfDYdzNIk&t=185s [18:16:16] Althego oh right.. lol, shows how much I actually got into fallout. :\ [18:20:18] also https://supcom.fandom.com/wiki/Infinite_War [19:08:14] !mission [19:08:14] raptop: M is for Mission; that's good enough for you. Wernher von Kerman chases you out of the R&D complex with a broom. [19:08:32] Ah, the Kerbin edition of Seasame Street [19:09:19] must be a rocket powered broom [19:19:16] lol [19:19:29] hey, at least it wasn't a rocket powered chainsaw [19:20:02] kerbals had rockets before they had wheels. so obviously the broom came later too [19:21:07] world where they were taught rockets first before anything else...ya, its going to cause something of a mess with the tech tree [19:22:31] though... they learned to float in 0g before they were taught to walk I wonder [19:45:02] Maybe kerbals aren't native to kerbin? [19:45:20] that is a possibility [19:45:26] there is nothing on the planet [19:45:47] kerbals are spores, and the space center is a fruiting body [19:55:02] from what I take from the creator's original idea, its whatever you want it to be. [21:30:54] sneed [21:32:31] chuck [21:35:04] why has this become a thing all of a sudden? [21:35:32] don't explain the joke [21:35:45] honk honk [21:35:59] The joke is that the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" which is clever in itself and quite funny to those with a mature sense of humour but what's really just hilarious about it is that if you look closely at the front of this store, Sneed's Feed & Seed, you can see a line that reads "Formerly Chuck's". Now, this might go over the average viewe [21:35:59] r's head as this, THIS, is peak comedy. I doubt anything will ever be as funny as the joke about Sneed's Feed & Seed. Are you ready for this one? So, like I said, the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" and this sign says "Formerly Chuck's", which means that when Chuck owned the place, well, I don't have to tell you... [21:36:56] ah, it's a reworking of that old joke with the guy with 3(4?) daughters and rhyming wordlplay to sneak in a bad word [21:37:14] I keep seeing it everywhere [21:37:25] and I don't know why [21:37:42] its the same reason you see star wars references everywhere [21:38:21] I haven't seen any repeated star wars references lately [21:38:55] its pop culture [21:39:14] There's a 4-panel meme derived from ep 2 that's big on the bad bird website at the moment [21:39:22] but why now? [21:41:05] Action: raptop shrugs [23:25:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net