[05:03:05] <Althego> what, nrol-101 moved again
[05:06:42] <raptop> Has it diminished into the west yet?
[05:10:56] <Althego> the launch date
[05:13:38] <raptop> that too
[06:43:35] <minas_tirith> raptop, why are eldritch things so exceptionally creepy?
[06:43:39] <minas_tirith> I mean even by horror standards
[07:08:11] <raptop> something something fear of the unknown something worst case scenarioes
[08:54:27] <Mat2ch> SpaceX got me lost with Starship...
[08:55:03] <Mat2ch> SN8 is on the launch pad, SN9 in High Bay, probably getting a nose cone before testing, SN10 is almost done, SN11 started, SN12 started as well...
[08:55:13] <Mat2ch> And SN5 and SN6 just sitting around and watching
[08:55:51] <Mat2ch> They really need to be a lot more unsuccesful with their stuff to get rid of it! ;)
[08:56:12] <Mat2ch> *unsuccessful
[09:01:13] <Althego> hehe
[09:01:18] <Althego> they were
[09:01:39] <Althego> the first few ones kept exploding
[09:04:15] <Mat2ch> Yep, and some in glorious fireballs!
[09:04:49] <Althego> hehe. the gut was commenting. that is not methane, is it? because it would be bad
[09:04:57] <Althego> next moment a huge fireball
[09:29:09] <JVFoxy> ... ok whats exploding now? Besides guts.
[09:35:12] <Althego> guy, was a typo
[09:52:16] <JVFoxy> commenting guts.. lol, sorry. Thought something you ate was complaining down there.
[09:52:39] <JVFoxy> guessing another test was done recently?
[09:53:04] <packbart> JVFoxy: the explosion was SN4, some 5 months ago
[09:53:40] <packbart> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZYPnxfjoCY )
[09:54:09] <JVFoxy> ya, was figuring pressure test of some sort. I've been out of loop for a while now.
[10:00:02] <JVFoxy> ok so just a pressure test burst.. nothing expected till later this month, SN9
[10:00:13] <JVFoxy> er.. I mean SN8
[10:08:58] <Althego> we are expecting a flight next week
[10:09:56] <Althego> and i thought they will be ready in 2 weeks, and even then my estimation was larger than other people's. and now they are going to the third
[10:12:15] <Althego> https://youtu.be/7YaFsUWgN3s?t=5084
[10:12:16] <Althego> here
[10:12:29] <Althego> if it was methane it would be igniting at the flare, correct?
[10:12:33] <Althego> next second it exploded
[10:12:54] <Althego> (not because of the flare)
[13:16:29] <Mat2ch> There is a road closure scheduled for today 
[13:16:36] <Mat2ch> so maybe another static fire test with all engines?
[13:20:26] <Althego> yes that starts in the evening
[13:21:50] <Althego> so as usual probably the climax is after midnigh
[13:29:12] <Mat2ch> It would be a weird choice to fly today.
[13:29:45] <Mat2ch> SpaceX didn't talk much about their flight tests before. I doubt it, but they're crazy enough to just fly
[13:29:50] <Althego> elon promised a live stream
[13:30:02] <Althego> they know that they are watched by 3 cameras
[13:30:14] <Althego> or rather 3 organizations on a regular basis
[13:30:24] <Althego> so it is pointless to hide it
[13:30:26] <Mat2ch> and SpaceX has enough cams out there to do a live stream
[13:30:35] <Mat2ch> so it would be easy to just set one up
[13:30:36] <Althego> anyway, if there is a live stream there would be a post about that
[13:30:53] <Mat2ch> An hour before the event maybe
[13:41:31] <Althego> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/jkvqwd/this_is_major_tom_to_ground_control/
[15:22:26] <Claas2008> can you make a rocket that automatically points at a target? (the target can't be a building or a object)
[15:22:44] <packbart> yes
[15:23:06] <packbart> I don't know what exactly you mean by it but I can see several solutions
[15:23:18] <packbart> might need mods
[15:23:31] <darsie> Claas2008: There are radar or heat seeking missiles.
[15:23:49] <Claas2008> no mods plz
[15:23:51] <darsie> Hmm, they point at objects, though.
[15:24:17] <packbart> the use SAS "to target" and stay within the active bubble
[15:24:22] <darsie> What is a target that's not an object?
[15:24:47] <Claas2008> i tried a kerbnet waypoint, but you can't sellect it as a target
[15:25:14] <Althego> it is an interesting question what the target object is
[15:25:18] <darsie> You can activate navigation and then select attitude hold at target.
[15:25:26] <packbart> what are you trying to achieve?
[15:25:29] <darsie> I think. Maybe not.
[15:25:41] <packbart> Althego: there are several types of different targets in KSP :/
[15:25:54] <Althego> you can target flags or other spacecraft
[15:26:04] <packbart> and waypoints are another thing altogether, I think
[15:26:11] <Claas2008> no objects, just a random place that you make your target
[15:26:24] <Althego> stock ksp cant do that
[15:26:31] <Claas2008> like the top of a mounten
[15:26:32] <Althego> but if you have something there, you can target that
[15:26:43] <Althego> like a flag for example
[15:26:52] <packbart> KSP can target positions. But I'd use MechJeb to do that. don't know of how to do it in stock
[16:14:19] <Althego> road closed
[16:23:01] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-p8vjQ95s
[16:23:04] <Althego> unrelated
[16:28:12] <Mat2ch> LabPadre is waiting for another static fire, too. So it seems it's going to be rather boring ;)
[16:32:49] <Althego> will the 15 km fligh happen from the same stand?
[16:33:18] <Althego> and where is the landing target
[17:04:56] <umaxtu> why wouldn'
[17:04:59] <umaxtu> it?
[17:07:47] <Althego> you mean the launch? it is a test stand. but the small hops happened from similar ones, but with one engine only
[17:14:20] <Mat2ch> Althego: why shouldn't they launch from the test stand?
[17:14:31] <Mat2ch> And the landing target is where it always was.
[17:14:35] <Mat2ch> This will be proper fun :D
[17:14:43] <Mat2ch> To see it crashing down near all the good stuff
[17:14:45] <Mat2ch> ;)
[17:14:53] <Althego> yes that is my problem with the landing
[17:15:08] <Althego> because of that flip in the end it can pick up large horizontal speed
[17:15:38] <Althego> and the stand, as i said it is a test stand, if it can withstand the 3 raptors blasting it, good
[17:15:49] <Althego> or maybe they dont care, it is just some steel beams and pipes
[17:16:55] <Mat2ch> It's not just some steel beams, there's the whole tanking/detanking section there and that can be shielded, when a Starship lifts off
[17:18:01] <Mat2ch> and the flip in the end wouldn't be very critical, if the first flips wouldn't need raptor support...
[17:18:25] <Mat2ch> but you can flip at 1 km already and then overshoot and use the raptors to stop it from overshooting
[17:18:32] <Mat2ch> just as they're doing it with the F9
[17:23:43] <Mat2ch> oh, Rafael talks about a planned two-engine static fire
[17:23:49] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/fael097/status/1326934346771607553
[17:26:59] <Althego> hehe this is a side view
[17:27:18] <Althego> those header tanks looks so small
[17:29:46] <Mat2ch> and are probably bigger than my appartment...
[17:29:58] <Althego> hehe
[17:30:08] <Althego> but how long can they supply fuel? maybe 10 seconds?
[17:31:07] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: Only if it's a very small apartment https://www.techgenyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/starship-orbital-vehicle-sn1.jpg
[17:43:30] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: ok, mine is bigger.
[17:43:39] <Mat2ch> My tank, obviously.
[17:44:00] <Althego> you live in a tank?
[17:44:16] <FLHerne> On the Internet, no-one can tell you're a goldfish
[17:44:22] <Althego> hehe
[17:45:26] <Althego> like the dolphin from johnny mnemonic
[17:45:41] <Mat2ch> Althego: maybe.
[17:45:43] <Mat2ch> ;)
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[18:34:44] <Mat2ch> Oh, KSP 1.11 is released?
[18:35:05] <Mat2ch> And we get... work lamps? :D
[18:35:22] <Althego> what, now?
[18:36:07] <Althego> navigation lights!
[18:36:11] <Althego> i always wanted these
[18:36:16] <Althego> i hope they blink
[18:36:25] <Althego> they could be useful too
[18:36:33] <Althego> because docking always happens in the dark
[18:36:47] <Mat2ch> It does
[18:36:55] <Mat2ch> but I'm using a docking mod, so...
[18:39:19] <Althego> for the lazy people https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/198067-ksp-loading-some-reassembly-on-progress/
[19:30:30] <Althego> heh the pad is still not clear
[19:35:44] <umaxtu> window open till 9pm central again?
[19:38:03] <Althego> !road
[19:38:05] <Kerbot> Althego => Primary; November 8, 2020; 7:00 p.m. – 1:00 a.m.; Cancelled | Primary; November 9, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 10, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 11, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Cancelled | Primary; November 12, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 13, 2020; 5:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.; Scheduled
[19:38:10] <Althego> seems so
[19:39:22] <Mat2ch> Why are they closing the road so early, when they are not clearly ready?
[19:50:13] Action: darsie rescued Keldred Kerman from the surface of the Mun ... and sent him back to his shipwreck to plant a flag and whatever flags there are to be planted on the Mun in the future.
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