[00:00:52] wow [00:01:13] thing is... it's not a bad game per say, but it's not what I remember backing [00:03:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:11:13] Hi everyone [02:32:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget_zzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:33:29] 5 failed login attempts to my KSP forum profile from Ukraine.. hmmm... [02:33:47] They just want your launch codes [03:12:37] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:59:10] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Have you ever had rodents or other large pests and ever needed a quick, affordable and ecological friendly way to get rid of them? Well look no further pardner, you need just call the experts at Velociraptor Exterminators! [04:59:44] do they hurt umbralraptors? [05:00:02] Hi, I'm "Dino" Scolar, founder and CEO of Velociraptor Exterminators. Our team of crack geneticists and biologists have brought mother nature's best rodent control specialists back from the Cretaceous to provide the best service you could ever hope for. [05:00:26] Over at Velociraptor Exterminators, our dinosaurs are bonded with human trainers at birth and given extensive training to match their unique set of skills that make them a nightmare for all small mammals, invasive Florida iguanas and other assorted pests that may plague your home. [05:00:50] they didnt do a very good job because we are here and they are not :) [05:01:08] Our pest control specialists will send your problems into extinction, and if there's a mess it's on us! Don't keep leaving your home in the hands of amateurs! Call for the Mesozoic professionals at 1-800-VRAPTOR! [05:02:12] Action: Scolar_Visari stands by for callers. [05:04:33] Perhaps I took that too far? [05:05:26] or too few people to appreciate it [05:06:18] Does it deal with Kraken infestations too? [05:06:24] Well, ahem, it's not like IRC is ever terribly busy [05:06:32] tivec: It depends, are these *land* Krakens? [05:06:35] sometimes it is [05:06:45] usually when i am not looking [05:06:51] i remember when #kspofficial was really busy all the time. Where are all the people nowadays? [05:06:58] it has virtual quantum conversations [05:07:08] maybe factorio [05:07:14] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders why the PBS special, "Nazi Mega Weapons" on Netflix has a picture of a Soviet T-34/85 on the cover. [05:07:23] hehe [05:07:32] i'm looking at the user count. we're down to 209 here, #factorio has 230 odd.. [05:07:34] Althego: Virtual quantum conversations are not actual conversations, and they can only exchange bitcoins. [05:08:57] tivec: I'm guessing that all the people who use IRC are physically dying from old age? [05:09:05] they are real next to a political hole :) [05:09:07] Excluding us non-people, of course. [05:09:17] https://xkcd.com/1782/ <- relevant [05:09:30] maybe people have moved on to teh multitude of discords [05:09:48] ah yes, the ksp discord is really so busy that i cant keep up with it [05:10:09] You could say it's full of discord. [05:10:36] heh [05:11:29] full of this chord https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Frets%2C_guitar_neck%2C_C-major_chord.jpg/300px-Frets%2C_guitar_neck%2C_C-major_chord.jpg [05:11:44] Action: Scolar_Visari eagerly awaits to watch nu Lost in Space and watch Robot murder Will Robinson. [05:12:16] hee [05:12:34] and also go back in time and kill wesley crusher? [05:12:49] Though, to be more honest, it does look like a geth http://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Screenshot-2018-03-06-09.31.58.jpg [05:13:22] yesterday KSP was running for hours on end without any issue whatsoever [05:13:27] today it crashes on startup [05:13:30] "This platform senses danger, caution is advised Will Robinson." [05:13:53] tivec: That happens. It's part of the fun, really. [05:14:00] Scolar_Visari: how well do you pay your velociraptors? [05:14:08] yeah.... it's just that it takes like 15 mintues to start lol [05:14:23] UmbralRaptop: They get paid with their kills. [05:14:39] &acceptable. [05:15:03] We stopped giving them money after one got too clever and mauled a customer and went after their wallet. [05:15:46] It all turns out they're surprisingly good at pinning small children down and ransacking their bodies for coins. [05:17:30] <_< [05:17:51] Huh, Bambiraptor had opposable foreclaws. [05:20:59] OK, I'm in EVA for the first time in ages and have forgotten how to rotate my Kerbal. [05:21:08] look [05:21:28] sas on-off toggles this [05:21:34] lately [05:21:52] the kerbal rotates in camera direction [05:21:52] Action: Scolar_Visari now ponders sentient raptor astronauts lying on the Moon. [05:22:00] maybe not raptors [05:22:09] i always wondered if there were intelligent dinosaurs [05:22:31] if there were it happened so long ago we cant find any evidence [05:22:35] maybe except on the moon [05:23:26] Ah, found how to jet up/down and got safely back in. Jeb will not die... this time. [05:23:47] hehe [05:24:07] There was some Canadian research on what Troodon would have looked like had it evolved into humanoid shape. [05:24:09] Althego: I suppose it's *possible* a pre-industrialized civilization of dinosaurs could have existed and all evidence was obliterated by time. Though unlikely. [05:24:18] I think Jeb's gone from all of my saves....crazy Kerbal. [05:24:24] even industrialized [05:24:36] Jennifer: Yes, the infamous dinosauroid. [05:24:39] concrete turns to dust, steel rusts away, etc [05:25:03] If the dinos hadn't died out I think one of the feathered varieties easily could've become sentient. [05:25:08] https://redhistoria.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Dinosauroide-2.jpg [05:25:17] Althego: Well I was thinking of fossil fuel usage! [05:25:27] ah i saw this picture [05:25:35] Althego: Hawksbill Station has some thoughts on what might survive. [05:26:57] Nemoramjet and Simon Roy once worked on a now discontinued reboot of the dinosauroids with, ahem, more convincing material https://nemo-ramjet.deviantart.com/art/The-Return-of-the-Dinosauroids-117484374 [05:27:10] Political prisoners are dropped into the age of trilobites. One prisoner is studying them, and considers burying his researched, etched into ... gold, maybe? ... for people hundreds of millions of years later to find. [05:27:38] Etched into gold? Naw, you're thinking of the lizardmen. The Old Ones had a thing for gold. [05:28:16] Also: https://povorot.deviantart.com/gallery/9348116/The-Dinosauroids [05:28:56] Scolar: LOL [05:29:30] there was a voyager episode about sentient dinosaurs leaving earth [05:29:55] Roy and nemoramjet took the constraints of dinosaur physiology into account and did not, as their predecessors assumed, that all sentient organisms must look like humans with rubber foreheads. [05:30:15] rubber forehead aliens trope [05:30:45] Althego: Outside from the actual link (I mean, come on, herbivores!?) that wasn't such a bad episode. [05:31:10] hehe [05:31:25] yes a hunter must be smarter [05:31:33] Now to deorbit my first Kerbal in Ican'trememberhowlong. [05:31:34] Action: Scolar_Visari takes comfort in the fact that Stellaris need not restrict species to humanoids. Blorg understands us. [05:31:49] I do like how it looks very much like a crow. Crows are tool-users. [05:32:23] Unfortunately, my attempts to uplift crows have all ended in failure thus far. [05:33:06] crow: caldari interceptor :) [05:33:11] They do not seem to have the same appetite for algebra and Dora the Explorer as they do for stale pieces of bread. [05:34:22] I've tried Spore; not particularly impressed. I always wanted to try SimLife, but it wasn't in stores very long. Wonder if it's on Steam. [05:34:22] Scolar_Visari: algebraic bread [05:34:46] Algebraic Bread Loaf sounds like a decent band name. [05:37:19] Jennifer: I don't believe it's for digital sale at all. [05:37:38] Lye bread is a thing, so why not Lie bread? [05:37:39] Kosmonaut: They're actually a tribute band to Calculus Pastry Chef. [05:39:32] Huh. chute opened by itself. Maybe I accidentally hit the spacebar. [05:39:51] Scolar_Visari: which were inspired by pâtissier nombre crunchers [05:40:04] A french duo out of Bordeaux [05:40:34] Ermagawd new space settlement art! http://spacehabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/K2-cam-5Ag.jpg [05:40:41] But they can't hold a candle to thebarbershop quartet, The Slide Rulers [05:41:04] Kosmonaut: Psht, go Polish Math Bomb Sausage or go home. [05:41:14] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DamYyoXVMAADRKR.jpg:large [05:41:18] They're a bunch of hacks [05:41:29] Althego: You appear to be having a problem there. [05:41:32] Down after 66minutes. [05:41:48] no that is by design [05:41:49] Althego: Your parts are clipping. [05:41:51] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:42:32] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DabzAjoU8AA8COJ.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaWdiAyVMAEYOQD.jpg:large [05:42:43] these two pictures are sooooo goood [05:42:47] Weeee! http://spacehabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/K2-cam-9Ak.jpg [05:43:17] Althego: The first one looks like they're about to be hit by oncoming missile artillery. [05:43:22] and those are not my parts, i dont use twitter [05:43:45] Scolar_Visari: uhhhhh [05:44:00] Aw, that last one makes me nostalgic for The High Frontier. [05:44:05] The hell is that? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/n4y5Wjz1/1523598233.JPG [05:44:42] Remember: Jogging towards the anti-spin side will improve your work out. http://spacehabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/K2-cam-26Aj.jpg [05:45:26] Jennifer: There are higher resolution images of most of the book's color plates at https://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/70sArt/art.html [05:45:27] I am so PO'd we haven't got those habitats yet. I so would live in one. [05:45:32] Are they playing badminton? [05:45:37] Kosmonaut: Spaceminton [05:48:12] lol what is that, slenderman? [05:48:20] I'm pretty sure bw images of some of those were in The High Frontier. [05:48:34] Jennifer: It depends on the edition. [05:48:37] whatever minton it is, must be hard because of the coriolis force [05:49:03] Althego: gotta have a lot of English on those... Balls? [05:49:06] Althego: You'd have to switch sides at regular intervals. [05:49:14] I guess Minton uses shuttlecocks [05:49:17] We had a pretty early one. Possibly first-paperback. [05:49:22] Jennifer: There are some black and white images from early editions at http://ssi.org/space-art/the-don-davis-high-frontier-artshow/ [05:49:27] Or space shuttlecock [05:49:33] And yes, I had that bookmarked in the unlikely event any one ever asked. [05:50:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Hikaru' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:51:23] Kosmonaut: Alternatively, you could always play on an ever-rotating, turntable mounted platform with a laser net that incinerates people. [05:51:33] Well, in that case, I wonder if you've ever seen a cartoon about the different types of aviation engineers I've been looking for. [05:52:05] My dad brought it home from work one day - it's basically "if every department got to design the whole plane." [05:52:17] hehe [05:52:24] upload it to youtube [05:52:26] now [05:52:55] Action: Scolar_Visari knows all, hears all and sees a few things. Mostly crappy b-movies. [05:53:14] Sorry, I can't help you. Though I can direct you to excellent films like RoboCop 2. [05:53:23] Come to think of it, you could prob'ly recreate it in KSP. [05:53:42] No, I can't. I suck a planes. [05:54:02] I have, not once, developed a plane that does not keel over and splashdown with loss of all hands. [05:54:18] Build different spacecraft using 90% one type of part. All engines, all connectors, all fuel tanks... [05:54:30] Scolar_Visari: at work we have a big projector and just play movies on it constantly. I had RoboCop on [05:54:42] Kosmonaut: I actually like the second one. [05:54:56] There's a particularly rough scene of a gang attacking a woman [05:54:57] but robocop was the best [05:55:00] the orogoinal [05:55:04] original [05:55:09] Forgot about that bit [05:55:10] Kosmonaut: Don't worry, RoboCop resolves it. [05:55:34] Action: Scolar_Visari notes to return their ED-209. [05:55:46] Oh.. he resolved it alright [05:55:58] shooting the gut in the balls? [05:56:02] guy [05:56:14] Althego: Yes, through the woman's skirt. [05:56:37] which is strange because it would require the woman to be taller than the man [05:56:55] at least having longer legs, but that probably also means taller [05:57:04] Althego: It's not as strange as that gun holding more cartridges than its magazine would physically allow. [05:57:12] hehe [05:57:13] Don't shame the short criminal for his height [05:57:23] movie physics [05:57:29] ruule of cool, etc [05:57:58] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if Ronny Cox or Kurtwood Smith had the best parts. [05:59:57] Action: Scolar_Visari is also seriously pondering if the new Paul Verhoven film would be physically uncomfortable to watch or not. Then again, said organism could not finish the Tailor of Panama without spoiling the ending first. [06:00:07] Mod-installing help, anyone? [06:00:34] Jennifer: you take the mod, right [06:00:38] there is one good scene in the robocop remake, that is the showing off what remains scene [06:00:44] watch that on youtube and be done with it [06:00:49] And then press the "you work now" button [06:00:54] It's next to the Any Key [06:01:33] TheKosmonaut: I've been wishing that, yes... [06:01:53] Jennifer: what mod? [06:02:04] MechJeb. [06:02:11] easy [06:02:16] go to github [06:02:20] search mechjeb [06:02:26] click most popular repo [06:02:29] I can't figure what a .ccip is or how to open it. [06:02:32] click releases [06:02:34] wait what [06:02:46] I've never heard of it [06:02:58] I dled it from Curse. Dumb idea? [06:03:06] Wait, I'm sure I saw this one in Interstellar http://ssi.org/assets/images/Ch06p086.gif [06:03:07] try editing in notepad++ or similar text editing device [06:03:13] or download from github [06:03:15] what is this [06:03:33] space nuke? [06:04:12] Jennifer: https://github.com/MuMech/MechJeb2/releases/tag/v2.7.0 [06:04:13] ~200 meter wide space habitat with light allowed in via the front endcap. [06:04:21] Jennifer: whichever area you get it from is irrelevant as long as it's compatible with the version of KSP you are running. [06:04:38] check forum thead for that info [06:04:57] what version o' KSP are you running? [06:05:06] TheKosmonaut: It appears .ccip needs to be expanded or something though. [06:05:11] Similar to Cooper Station https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/interstellarfilm/images/1/1c/Cooper_Station.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150713085831 [06:05:32] The new version. 1.4xx. I understand MJ 2.7xx covers it. [06:06:56] Scolar_Visari: I'm less enamored these days of habitats than I am of solar power collector satellites. The kind that could have killed the fossil fuel industry in the '80s. [06:07:07] Hmm interesting [06:07:15] I cant find a .dll on github :V [06:07:30] find it on spacedock [06:07:51] Spacedock? [06:08:29] BenjaminK: I don't think SD is even up anymore [06:08:40] Last few times I've gone there now I get errors [06:09:07] Jennifer: Ahhhh, I wouldn't think they'd do much harm given the absolute importance of fossil fuels in modern transportation. [06:09:38] Generating electricity by other means is trivial relative to powering vehicles with fossil fuel alternatives. [06:10:11] whatsit killed the electric car... [06:10:23] Action: Scolar_Visari glares at ships using dirty bunker fuel, the specter of bankruptcy shadowing Tesla and choo choosl. [06:11:16] The advantage of Solar power satellites was not that it was the only route, but a rather convenient excu-, er, infrastructure, for other space related activities. [06:11:38] Like space farms, which are another thing we could use right now... [06:11:44] But if you're just looking for baseload power that's not generated via electricity, we can easily do that with nuclear. [06:11:56] Meh, we grow way too much as it is. [06:12:03] And we aren't, because we're terrified of it. [06:12:12] Without needing to be. [06:13:00] The growth of wind and Solar on Earth has continued to surprise me, with its success in Texas a continual source of amusement. [06:13:57] But, seriously, way too much food is grown. [06:13:57] Nuclear power or bust [06:14:09] I want nuclear powered phones [06:14:26] Kosmonaut: That would conclusively demonstrate a link between phone radiation and cancer! [06:14:36] That way, when Samsung makes their next exploding phone, they now have the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons [06:14:37] Anyway, .ccip apparently needs to be opened via a "Curse client," whatever that is... and when I click that, I get "Twitch-client." [06:15:07] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders expansion of tidal energy. Which is sort of space based, courtesy of the Moon. [06:15:07] the twitch client is the "curse client" it was rebranded a while back [06:15:12] Scolar_Visari: best ship in E: D [06:15:24] And why is it the Diamonback Scout [06:15:37] Because it has a fantastic jump range for the money? [06:15:41] no idea how to use it with KSP though.. my experience with it is limited to Minecraft [06:15:46] Action: Scolar_Visari has Diamondback Explorer, however. [06:15:47] Scolar_Visari: nice [06:16:03] I like my extra internal module space and higher jump range thankyouverymuch. [06:17:00] TheKosmonaut: https://spacedock.info/ [06:17:04] works fine for me [06:17:07] Also beats trying to move around in that space cow that is the Anaconda, particularly if you don't like getting interdicted with tens of millions of credits in exploration data. [06:17:21] But best ship is Beluga. [06:17:30] BenjaminK: the site was loading and all the pages, but download links gave me errors. It has probably been sorted [06:17:40] I just don't even bother with SD [06:18:06] https://ksp.sarbian.com/jenkins/job/MechJeb2-Release/15/artifact/MechJeb2-2.7.3.0.zip [06:18:11] It's slow and unreliable. Though I do like the layout overall [06:18:17] There's the download Jennifer [06:18:36] just unzip, standard procedure [06:19:35] was on the forum thead, first page :V [06:19:35] Um. Hang on. [06:20:58] KSP is actually on a different computer... [06:21:48] Action: Scolar_Visari curses Netflix and their refusal to recognize EST as the one TRUE time zone. [06:22:06] wait, i can download a jennifer? [06:22:06] :V [06:22:24] Well there's the link when you got the right computer [06:22:41] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43732035 [06:22:41] Althego: Don't you dare! [06:22:57] Althego: you wouldn't download a car [06:23:03] i would [06:23:14] Which forum thread, Benjamin? [06:23:15] they would sell it like that if they could [06:23:19] No. You wouldn't. The video said so [06:23:57] the mechjeb forum thead Jennifer [06:24:09] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/154834-14x-anatid-robotics-mumech-mechjeb-autopilot-273-31-march-2018/ [06:24:24] Kosmonaut: With additive manufacturing, I *can* download a car! Just a small one, mind you, and not very good. [06:24:27] OK, found and am downloading now. [06:24:35] :theubsup: [06:25:53] ... this dude is wearing two sunglasses [06:25:58] Walked past me just now [06:26:09] I now have a compressed zip folder containing a MechJeb2 folder. Remind me of what to do next? [06:26:11] A pair up in his hair, another on his face [06:26:18] Jennifer: double click it [06:26:25] Kosmonaut: Could be for different prescriptions. [06:26:28] TheKosmonaut where are you? [06:26:40] Jennifer: behind you [06:26:43] scooby doo, where are you? [06:26:44] doubleclicked... [06:26:51] Jennifer: I'm in Tokyo [06:26:54] Kosmonaut: I don't suppose bifocal sunglasses are a hip thing. [06:27:00] lol [06:27:07] OK, that makes sense, a little. [06:27:14] Althego: Dead from old age. Great Danes don't live more than a decade. [06:27:15] Scolar_Visari: they should be [06:27:21] Or sunglass contact lenses [06:27:27] Now we are on to something [06:27:42] Action: Scolar_Visari wishes Helghast goggles were a thing for more humans. [06:28:17] Scolar_Visari: I wish that series was better [06:28:20] Hey kids, you know what's hip and cool? GLOWING RED EYES. [06:28:28] Kosmonaut: Me too. Me too . . . [06:28:31] Unfortunately it got lost in the sea of CoD and Halo [06:28:46] You know what else should be better? Call of Duty and Halo. [06:28:56] Now IIRC I drop the MJ2 folder into Squad folder... or was it GameData? [06:29:05] Scolar_Visari: Halo 1 and 2 are definitive masterpieces of our time [06:29:10] I will fight you [06:29:11] Kosmonaut: Psht, overrated tripe! [06:29:19] Jennifer: the gamedata folder [06:29:21] Action: Scolar_Visari throws a copy of Quake at Kosmonaut. [06:29:35] Scolar_Visari: I'm sorry. Quake is quite a bit older [06:29:41] EXACTLY [06:31:05] You know what also came out the same year as Halo? Alien vs. Predator 2. An objectively superior game. [06:31:11] "Copying 46 items to GameData" [06:31:56] Next? [06:32:35] start ksp and enjoy? [06:33:09] Will try. [06:33:51] Scolar_Visari: I was told that sucked compared to the first one [06:33:59] Triffid: You were told wrong! [06:34:13] It occurred to me too late yesterday that I could've brought my KSP laptop to work and projected the game on the library wall for the kids to celebrate Yuri's Night. Next time maybe. [06:34:26] Action: Scolar_Visari seriously ponders if Halo's popularity has more to do with it being a successful console FPS instead of being an all-around decent FPS. [06:34:49] Triffid: The multiplayer was super fun unless too many people were playing as Predators. [06:34:52] which yuri? :) [06:34:59] Althego: The C&C one I think. [06:35:07] Scolar_Visari: yeah well it did change a lot about FPS [06:35:17] not too many famous yuris [06:35:28] Scolar_Visari: heh I remember playing the first one at a LAN party, managed to frighten one friend so much that he literally fell out of his seat and screamed out loud [06:35:30] The 2-weapon limit was pretty unheard of relatively speaking [06:35:36] Kosmonaut: I know! Three factions, asymmetric gamep- Oh wait you're talking about Halo. [06:35:51] Well, I'm the only one at work who remembered it. Usually I run First Orbit in the teen tech lab. [06:36:01] Scolar_Visari: he was predator, had just finished battling terran and I got right up in his face as.. guess what? ;) [06:36:35] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if the original Medal of Honor had two weapon limits. [06:37:08] Scolar_Visari: no [06:37:12] Not that I remember [06:38:13] Some of the new loading screens are very pretty. [06:38:43] Technically, Deus Ex did limit what you could carry weapon wise. [06:39:08] Oh yeah, Jurassic Park: Trespasser had the two weapon limit before Halo! [06:39:59] Jennifer: In KSP? [06:40:01] Yeah [06:40:31] they never changed the old craft models to new ones in the pictures [06:40:34] or in the menu screen [06:40:47] Halo's design choices make a lot of sense if you see them as trying to fix flaws in Marathon, but not in the normal way like an ID FPS. [06:41:11] Althego: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Yuri-Gagarin-1961-Helsinki-crop.jpg [06:41:27] that smile is strane [06:42:22] UmbralRaptop: I'm still waiting for more games where the multi-species alien empire are teh good guys and humans are teh bad guys. [06:44:31] Scolar_Visari: An AI going nuts and saving humanity was a nice twist. [06:44:54] UmbralRaptop: Yes but, why fembots? [06:45:49] It'd be a nicer twist if the moustache twirling, obviously evil alien thing was played with. [06:47:03] Hrm [06:47:59] in supreme commander earth is definitelythe bad guy [06:48:11] although the units are blu and look like good guy units [06:48:32] but their goal is to make the opposition!s planets (or was it stars) explode [06:48:48] Well, MJ seems to be working. Thanks! [06:48:48] Althego: Canonically, all three sort of win and lose. The Cybrans definitely come out on top with the sequel, though. [06:48:55] on the other hand cybrans are red black and their only goal is to live in peace [06:49:08] Sort of like how in Disciples 1 everybody lost even if they one (like Mortis). [06:49:16] so despite the unit looks i categorize them as the good [06:49:21] OK, next question. Are the Gemini and Apollo craft in the stock missions available as stock craft? [06:49:32] the aions or what was their name are religious fanatics, wouldnt say they are good [06:49:54] UmbralRaptop: I think it would been hilarious if Halo 1 was redone so that the Covenant were actually trying to stop humanity from exterminating all life in the galaxy. [06:50:17] Jennifer: In Making History? Sort of. [06:50:53] (Parts are available to make them, but no .craft files) [06:51:06] Scolar_Visari: Hah! [06:52:21] Master Chief could defect, spending the next titles in the Covenant's employ and save the galaxy from the human menace. [06:52:21] UmbralRaptop: Darn. [06:58:31] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to stop the humans from galactic genocide. [07:00:24] I've got 1180 dv... looks like I should have enough to try a Munshot with free-return. [07:09:45] Nite all. [07:12:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:05:29] ugh, RSS is hard. Also the part limits at the beginning in career is making me grinding for money [08:09:00] Mat2ch: SOUNDING ROCKETS ftw [08:11:33] Mat2ch: Make a v-2 and attach an aerobee rocket on top [08:11:42] those contracts can do pretty well [08:12:40] TheKosmonaut: uhm, I don't get such contracts [08:12:48] and those sounding rockets are so small [08:13:07] currently I'm doing tourist contracts. 3 tourists make around 75k [08:13:27] Mat2ch: oh is this just standard RSS? [08:13:31] +RO [08:13:40] RP-0 has a nice career progression [08:13:56] Ah, ok [08:14:12] looks like I need to try RP-0 someday :) [08:14:25] I prefer RP-0 because it is a better career mode than stock :S [08:16:52] Oh, the stock career mode needs some work, yes. [08:17:02] It hasn't changed since 0.something [08:17:15] doesn't look like someone really made a plan how a career could go [08:17:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:17:43] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [08:17:43] Made it into orbit with the hoverjet transport but we're going to get to Aptur to refuel on fumes.... http://puu.sh/A2aI8/e5ea4e4414.jpg [08:17:43] And I'd prefer to have science points spent somehow different [08:18:06] like doing real research and making engines better over time and stuff [08:25:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:35:44] and KER 1.1.3 doesn't display the dV for the active stage after the first burn, which is a bit annoying [08:36:57] and KER 1.1.4 from jrbudda doesn't support RSS+RO :| [10:05:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:10:41] Refueling on Aptur went well, now headed to Serran to try the Hoverjet off kerbin! [10:54:17] https://78.media.tumblr.com/f78d119e6195648157a35e2255f46562/tumblr_ohl4b1pitc1qz4u07o1_540.png [10:57:05] Fluburtur: 'i' see what you did there [10:58:09] Yeah, he hangs around on tumbler instead of building rockets. :D [10:58:28] im waiting for part for my plane actually [10:58:37] and I need to call a friend about a paramotor ride [10:58:50] I'm starting a new Career in 1.4 and I need a good name [10:59:28] https://78.media.tumblr.com/2697e81d91a7eeed3186c56c591718df/tumblr_p737kv3qXE1r4unano1_540.jpg [11:07:50] I also want to try chasing a paramotor with a plane [11:07:54] that would be cool [11:35:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/434315703072456706/blower.jpg [11:39:37] Fluburtur: "careeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer" [11:39:52] heh [11:40:23] I knew you'd like it. :D [11:42:10] well I do want to model and build and sell rc planes and stuff [11:42:15] that involves a lot of cad work [11:44:56] go for it [11:45:19] I see the f.lux icon [11:45:27] yeah [11:48:41] And we've landed on Serran :) http://puu.sh/A2fin/b5389f2f9b.jpg [11:52:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/434319899884650496/DSC_8688.JPG [11:59:38] nice plane(s) lyneira [12:00:01] https://78.media.tumblr.com/1cc07877c61dd78f15a7104ae7334f4f/tumblr_njwlfgLj5T1qzpsuoo1_500.jpg [12:02:15] It's been quite the challenge to make a plane that can carry the hoverjet as well as SSTO, ISRU and interplanetary travel [12:03:18] I don't think it's gonna be able to come back from Titanus or Tidus though [12:31:10] good newws, the bottleboat still works [13:39:48] Lyneira: what planetpack is that? [13:39:58] noooo you broke the streak [13:40:05] one whole hour with nothing at all [13:40:27] ve2dmn: It's New Horizons: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/102776-13-kopernicus-new-horizons-v201-2jun17-its-back/ [13:40:46] Fluburtur: this is not an IdleRPG channel [13:40:54] but it was fun [13:41:20] In new horizons, Kerbin becomes the moon of a blue gas giant, Sonnah [13:41:47] Mun and several new worlds are moons of the same gas giant [13:42:23] ok [13:42:34] Serran is the outermost moon of Sonnah, a dry desert like world but with an oxygen atmosphere [13:43:16] Fluburtur: https://idlerpg.net/ [13:43:40] Lyneira: any weather effect or similar? [13:44:38] Don't think there's any weather that affects gameplay, though some planets might have cloud layers [13:44:43] if EVE is installed [13:46:42] Fluburtur: https://imgur.com/a/JZEGQ [13:47:15] Fluburtur: can you even BELIEVE these exist? [13:47:24] no [13:47:28] like my mind is quite honestly blown [13:47:32] I never saw any of those with my two own eyes [13:47:38] F-15C? sounds like a govt conspiracy [13:48:04] Rafael? bullcrap, im not buyin it [13:50:12] Fluburtur: they could have at the very least included the F-117 that was in the thumbnail, but no [13:50:21] lmao [13:51:09] but well, what can you expect from clickbait [13:52:33] airplanes are fakes [13:52:35] earth is flat [13:52:44] earth is round [13:52:46] like pancake [13:53:02] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8bxu57/168_hours_in_just_discovered_you_can_right_click/ [13:53:15] Life is a simulation [13:54:10] I wonder how many super useful stuff like this I still don't know [13:54:33] The unknown unknowns are unknown [13:54:42] ve2dmn: how... i... what [13:55:05] i mean sure i have a few thousand hours in the game, but how do you not know that [13:55:30] not my post [13:55:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/434350588050931722/DSC_9764.JPG [13:55:49] ve2dmn: not you specifically, more of a royal you [13:56:07] Fluburtur: fake [13:57:17] this 1 ultralight you wont believe exists [13:58:06] paramotors debunked [13:58:11] Rokker: and no, the 'Rafael' aircraft does not exist [13:59:24] rafael was a ninja turtle, wasn't he? [13:59:59] VanDisaster: pretty sure he was a teenage mutant renaissance artist [14:00:24] VanDisaster: that's Raphael [14:01:08] ve2dmn: same thing, france was just too busy striking to write out the ph [14:01:36] *sigh* [14:28:10] say, is Cape Kaneveral really too high to launch into the Moons plane? [14:40:13] https://twitter.com/serizawaken/status/984793177000370178 [14:40:13] ÊånE129ûoí°¤óWfO`UDˆ https://t.co/m7amow2YS3 [14:40:14] https://twitter.com/serizawaken/status/983709779968192513 [14:40:14] a‡cháŠÚE129ûU“ https://t.co/Rt25G5garV [14:40:56] ok, it's just MechJeb being utterly useless in launching into the right inclination [14:40:58] :| [14:41:36] GlassYuri: who on earth thinks Windows on an embedded system is a good idea?! [14:41:42] Except Microsoft and its partners [14:42:06] I'll never understand why there isn't some UI display framework that runs directly on hardware instead of adding a whole layer of inevitable failure [14:42:31] Mat2ch, freaking everyone apparently [14:42:55] First-to-market advantage I would guess [14:43:22] plus, windows devs are plenty and cheap [14:43:26] remember the win10 update popup and wannacry? [14:44:05] they could at least reduce windows to kernel + .NET framework + single whitelisted application [14:44:20] GlassYuri: that is what Windows Embedded is supposed to be [14:45:03] GlassYuri: uh, there is. It's called framebuffer and works on Linux and you can use something like Qt to draw on it [14:45:57] People are just too to do a proper job. Plus, if it's not mission critical, there is usually not a good incentive to DO a good job [14:46:12] But most people are just too ingorant to ask the right people [14:46:25] also money. [14:46:36] I guess it's some C# or Java application running underneath [14:46:55] and half of it has never seen somebody with a it security background [14:47:45] "It compiles? Ship!" [14:48:05] It compiles with 100+x warnings, but ship anyways [14:48:46] to be fair, I don't think these are connected to the internet, and if someone has physical access, they could as well steal the train [14:49:00] But, seriously, it's common for those 'information display' systems to run windows [14:49:51] and it's stupid as hell, because you have to pay for every display money to Microsoft [14:50:26] ...thanks to nick coloring I didn't even notice I was talking to two people [14:50:46] Mat2ch: that licence cost is probably a lower cost then the developpers [14:51:48] It's not a good idea in the long run, but I don't think that kind of decisions is made with long term in mind [14:52:00] still, I'd argue for a .NET compatible minimal environment which would combine low cost development with low failure potential [14:52:25] GlassYuri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT [14:52:27] a make make or buy decision is quite complex usually [14:52:28] ve2dmn: is it lower than the recourse claim? [14:53:22] I'm imagining this as a release build actually being an .iso containing the OS, runtime and your application [14:53:54] ve2dmn, that is still an actual windows that can fail like windows [14:55:45] ve2dmn, also I don't think all trains use windows, because for example E233 series just display the JR east logo when their information system fails [14:57:00] GlassYuri: who made each train? [14:57:05] Same manifacturers? [14:57:55] I think for the E233 it's split among at least two manufacturers, with some design differences due to the manufacturing process [14:58:41] however parts like the information system are likely designed in house by JR east and manufactured by a third party [14:59:21] the E129 series is manufactured by JR East's own J-TREC [14:59:34] GlassYuri: happy (late) yuri day ^.^ [15:00:06] for the E233 series wikipedia says "Manufacturer JR East, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Tokyu Car Corporation, J-TREC" [15:00:31] now J-TREC is tokyu car after it was sold from tokyu to JR east [15:08:07] anyone do anything interesting yesterday? [15:13:16] Arcan: yes. I was sick [15:14:09] :( [16:19:16] finally, friday [16:21:39] the 13th [16:22:43] doesnt matter [17:27:51] hi, is there anyone here who could help me with bash on linux ? I'm trying to run a shell script with sudo commands but for some reason only one of the two commands i requested fire [17:29:20] is there a semicolon in the middle? [17:30:13] here's what i wrote in my script : sudo service vnstat start && watch sudo vnstat -u [17:30:40] should i replace the && with ; ? [17:31:00] well, the second will run only if the first command was succesful [17:31:09] if it wasnt then it is meaningless anyway [17:31:53] to be more precise if the first command has a nonzero exit code [17:31:57] so if exit status is not zero, the second part after && will not fire since the expression is false anyway (short circuit) [17:33:01] wait so, if I use &&, the second command will not fire if the first one fails ? [17:33:07] yes [17:33:10] that is the point [17:33:16] usually at least [17:33:25] oh alright. Let me try ; [17:33:31] nono [17:33:41] if the service, whatever it is could not be started [17:33:47] then what do you want from it anyway< [17:34:09] does sudo return it's own exit code or that of the command you give to it? never tried batch sudo stuff [17:34:19] what if you run the first half only? what does $? say? [17:34:35] (it's called "early exit", there's no point in checking 0 AND X because it's always 0) [17:34:41] well, i always assumed that it did work since vnstat already works when i run the terminal, i don't have to run the command to start it and can directly use it [17:38:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5n6iNVRrf4 [17:38:43] YouTube - 10 CRAZIEST Things Ever Sent Into Space! [17:39:50] humans, obviously :) [17:41:25] Annnnnd I think ol Matt is running out of ideas. [17:42:01] matt damon? :) [17:42:29] actually, i even wonder if it's not a security risk to have sudo commands as shells [17:43:05] depends on how you do it [17:49:54] Elon Musk IS awesome though...he loves KSP and he's a massive geek too, on top of everything else he does. [17:51:33] i found something : i didn't write the #!/bin/bash so it couldn't work [17:51:49] only if you want it to be bash explicitly [17:52:00] usually sh is enough, but then you dont have bashisms [17:52:05] or ratehr cant have them [17:52:13] bashisms ? [17:52:20] bash-oly things [17:52:22] bash specific parts [17:52:44] many modern linuxes use dash for scripted interpreter instead of bash [17:52:49] which is a bit dumber but faster [17:59:13] Draconiator: did you see the top 10 screenshots i linked earlier [17:59:46] Draconiator: ALSO, hes been out of ideas forever, its why he steals content [18:00:09] Draconiator: https://imgur.com/a/JZEGQ [18:04:53] https://i.gyazo.com/654b11863b39f3371a6617a938c6b7b6.png - SSD arrived, wasn't thinking it would be in a nice box like this. [18:05:31] the mx500 that arrived this morning was in a similarily nice box [18:05:43] mind you so was the ocz I bought years ago [18:05:56] the intel disk I had before turned up in a recycled bit of cardboard :p [18:06:28] same for my m2 [18:07:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/434361417345531926/Screenshot_20180413-103655.png [18:08:17] lol [18:08:40] https://photos.app.goo.gl/cPmtiYl7GgOaLsCd2 oddly velvety covering too [18:08:52] hah [18:09:24] Draconiator: KingDian? Chinese SSD? [18:10:03] what ic or pcb is not chinese these days? [18:10:26] korean ones? [18:10:30] Althego: Just curious because I've never seen the name before [18:11:06] wha, no m.2 socket a samsung sm951 [18:11:29] the first one died in a few months though [18:11:40] but that was some years ago [18:11:46] i still consider this box quite new [18:12:08] I haven't even managed to kill my ocz vertex from... god knows when [18:12:17] tomorrow atlas v? is that the one that sets itself on fire? [18:12:19] even tho I use it as a cache disk for a hdd now :p [18:12:28] it was unnatural death [18:12:42] maybe the controller [18:13:09] Althego: also, I've been browsing Aliexpress for fun and I don't recognise any of the brands in there... [18:14:36] oh wait not tomorrow, after midnight here [18:14:45] ok not watchable [18:14:56] But I found plenty of items that looks really crappy. [18:14:57] 2 days 4 hours tess with falcon, still not watchable [18:15:09] So much so then I want to try them for myself [18:15:28] yeah I don [18:15:33] *3 days 4 hours [18:16:25] I don't really use my netbook that often so I didn't really need the 160GB drive it had. Ima use it for something else. [18:16:50] i havent even switched on my laptopt for a year or so [18:16:54] so good to not travel [18:20:04] https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/04/09/investigation-into-zuma-failure-reportedly-lays-blame-on-northrop-grumman/ [18:21:05] And yes KingDian is Chinese...I couldn't find any other 8GB ones heh [18:22:46] ... they still sell 8GB SSDs? [18:23:04] hehe [18:24:06] is that any cheaper than say, a 128gb one? [18:24:30] I needed a 32GB ide disk once, the cheapest I could find was 500GB :p [18:24:46] VanDisaster: I looked. 23CAD for 8G. 32CAD for 32G [18:24:49] buy old pc? [18:25:13] eh, 500GB was dirt cheap then [18:25:45] 50CAD for 120GB... [18:25:59] At that price, I would go for the 120GB [18:28:42] I mean... for 2x the price, you get 15x the storage. [18:34:46] What's with the Electron payload? http://nextrocket.space/ [18:35:05] there is a launch? [18:35:38] in 6 days [18:35:44] nice [18:35:51] so the specs of my netbook NOW will be.... Intel Atom processor running at 1.6GHZ, 1GB RAM, Xubuntu 16.04LTS, 8GB SSD drive, and Intel 645 graphics chipset. and I'm going to install Firefox and Hexchat [18:37:59] ...ummmm what kind of payload is "It's Business Time"? are they destroying the earth with it? [18:38:09] I hope [18:39:20] Ah, found it. http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/business-time-rocket-lab-sets-april-20-next-electron-launch/ [18:39:49] I've got enough money saved up to launch a payload with electron o_o [18:39:58] well, almost [18:40:07] you know what do to [18:40:12] kerbal cubesat [18:40:25] I could sell my house and launch with Electron [18:40:32] (probably) [18:41:32] I take that back I thought I saw 1U listed for <20k [18:42:42] Neal: do what I did: Become self-employed and see it all flow away *criesbigtears* [18:43:10] how long until the earth gets its own rings from satellite collisions [18:43:48] business time, and there is not even a destination given [18:43:51] strange [18:47:47] it's obviously a cover up. [18:48:17] must be an inverse launch. aliens send down something in a black cylinder :) [18:48:35] nah they would do that with a falcon [18:48:53] the electron is probably to send them lithium batteries [18:49:27] or an emergency tea delivery to the south pole [18:52:23] or maybe it's an ad in space? http://oncle-dom.fr/sciences/astronomie/humour/mars_coco/acocaloc.gif [18:57:15] did anyone ever use this: https://www.geogebra.org/m/CekHeJRk [18:57:28] I made it a loooong time ago [18:57:43] before KSP had its own commnet [18:57:57] https://78.media.tumblr.com/e8d3d5ea52d07054007885b7765203d4/tumblr_p6w6vh5B351wsbn2ao1_540.jpg [18:59:07] lol [19:02:20] https://78.media.tumblr.com/6fef7f11fa8b6d3dfc4cb90cedf3bb8f/tumblr_p6y1i9P7lM1s8as3do1_540.jpg [19:03:08] lol [19:05:07] how many times can I make you lol in a row [19:05:33] LOL, speaking of Kubesats....I designed one but....it needed Argon to power it and I hax Xenon tanks on it. oops [19:07:51] Action: Arcan is confused [19:08:13] yesterday was the anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's pioneering orbital flight ^=^ [19:09:48] I will try printing at 150mm/s on my printer [19:10:58] highest I usually go is 80 [19:12:31] if the printer reaches 88 mm/s... [19:15:40] oh wow this drummer is really into it https://youtu.be/tbJuft4Fnr0 [19:15:40] YouTube - SOR Germantown House Band covering Killing in the Name [19:24:16] Arcan: Yuri's night [19:25:10] ve2dmn: yus [19:30:17] my friend is on vacations so we could go star hunting this week [19:37:18] Arcan: and in 2 weeks, it's gonna be the anniversary of Chernobyl [19:37:35] time to play STALKERS or whatever that game was' [19:38:19] warning: some images are graphic (99% is not) : https://imgur.com/a/TwY6q/ [19:39:44] https://i.gyazo.com/7425d94e9302eb048b7ae866c3ecc0f4.png [19:41:33] it's a set of images explaining the story behind Chernobyl. it's a good read [19:41:45] hehe contains xkcd radoaton chart [19:49:19] i remember how scared i was knowing the radioactive cloud was blown over us. normally wind is blowing from the west, but in that case it was reversed [19:50:47] Althego: I was too young to understand what was happening [19:51:04] and you were a lot farther [19:51:14] ok, even i didnt understand radioactivity [19:51:19] but i knew it was really bad [19:51:35] My dad was concerned but not as much as when the challenger disaster happened... or when the Berlin Wall fell [19:52:57] i remember i saw challenger in the evening news [19:53:22] berlin wall didnt impress me [19:54:22] It didn't impress me, but it was a shock to my father [19:56:00] i saw a few pieces of it in bückeburg, because somebody found it to be a good idea to transport a few meters of it inside military base [19:56:20] We have a piece in Montreal [19:56:59] https://i.gyazo.com/adf35246b8e350d815aea859a873a68c.png - And it works now. the only thing NOT tweakscaled on this is the small structural element this is built on. [19:58:35] Draconiator: looks cute [20:13:07] I would like to visit prypiat [20:13:21] https://i.gyazo.com/e17b5ab12150e7e9d6d3d535eb2b2d10.png - And the main structure survived entry. [20:13:23] I like radioacticity and crap like that [20:13:27] such fascinating power [20:16:02] there was that radioactive villain in captain planet :) [20:54:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:54:27] Hi! [20:55:50] yo [20:58:50] lo [21:49:38] Action: hoglahoo yawns [21:51:57] UmbralRaptor: Does the part config path (red link) looks good on this template? Its for the new Making History parts [21:51:59] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/User:ArnePeirs/Part [21:54:24] I think so. [21:54:46] Not too many parts named part.cfg any more. [21:59:18] UmbralRaptor: Oh really? [21:59:21] What happened? [21:59:59] You mean that that isnt a good filename anymore or that the .cfg extention is out of use? [22:00:37] BenjaminK: they just gave the .cfg files less ambiguous names. [22:01:12] So the filename has some relation to the part name. [22:09:44] Okay, thanks [22:09:51] Just making sure :p [22:14:51] bwoop [22:14:55] bwoop [22:15:06] so the "big ass vee" is now a spaceplane [22:15:21] sci-fi kind of theme [22:16:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:16:11] sigh [22:16:14] nice [22:16:22] working out the kinks [22:16:24] I've been giving some planes to Draconiator [22:16:32] including our beloved ks2000 [22:17:08] i need to upload like 20 new craft [22:17:43] once i get the vee done, i'll upload two version, the inline goliath and the sci-fi spaceplane edition [22:18:23] hi everyone [22:18:28] ahoy [22:18:41] we have two new kittens [22:18:51] i'll show them on livestream sometime soon [22:19:54] once i do this test run i'll get a livestream up [22:20:07] I don't have much new planes to send you [22:20:11] besides the yak 15 [22:20:14] its ok :D [22:20:27] i'm so bad at following up with things [22:20:33] master procrastinator [22:20:45] did you read the manual for the rocket? [22:21:31] not yet .-. [22:21:39] i need the link again [22:21:48] lmao [22:22:22] remember to open during the stream and not before https://docs.google.com/document/d/1evlV8b5IQX8zfoL6flQkF_3B2TG7UUSwUkYbnHTPeF4/edit?usp=sharing [22:23:40] ok heh [22:24:17] I think I have the new version too [22:24:29] yeah https://drive.google.com/file/d/131n6aiBzosgMoiTt-o5VTYfz2AcgBlKt/view?usp=sharing [22:24:39] newer version of the koyuz heavy [22:24:50] and yak 15 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DEq8M9ShSuXoQv17-haMTQ6Qd7G380ab/view?usp=sharing [22:28:18] awe it go boom [22:28:25] https://78.media.tumblr.com/d157b00dba4f2c0b98c0addac3e21dca/tumblr_inline_p6mjznNK1o1sdk4st_500.jpg [22:29:06] give me a few to set up the livestream [22:37:50] wow [22:44:21] new feature to my streams is background music [22:44:36] ping [22:47:58] uh it's getting rather late [22:48:28] https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [22:48:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:51:15] don't forget to read the manual [22:51:29] I would like if you did that early because I need to go to bed not too late [22:51:32] but yeah is fine [22:51:53] can you get the manual on screen as well? [22:56:13] depends how you set it [22:56:30] if it is set to window capture you can change the window to the browser [22:56:37] or use whole screen capture [22:56:53] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1evlV8b5IQX8zfoL6flQkF_3B2TG7UUSwUkYbnHTPeF4/edit?usp=sharing [22:57:02] that's the manual [23:09:55] yeah yak is a plane [23:10:05] koyuz is a rocket [23:14:48] if the new one doesn't work you probably still have the older model T [23:29:52] KrazyKrl transit just read the manual [23:30:14] is it decent? [23:30:26] yeah [23:30:34] was pretty funny to him [23:30:47] neat. [23:30:57] then proceeded to void the guarantee and forgot the recommended flight plane [23:31:32] Hey now, that warranty is serious. [23:31:53] How are you going to get the certificate of authenticity for an explosion that voids said warranty? [23:31:57] I think I voided it 4 times now [23:32:15] guess you need to have a tech guy go there and look at it [23:32:36] he voided it* my bad [23:32:46] Now you need to go to some random certificate maker template to add to the manual. [23:33:51] transitbiker you voided the warranty only 4 or 5 times so far [23:33:59] and you forgot the flight plan [23:35:52] the 2nd stage has rcs [23:45:12] I told you it was for display only [23:45:19] or rather the manual did [23:47:45] http://blaruu.tumblr.com/post/172906794272/swampwulf-zanbamon-magicxmc27-burloire [23:48:19] transitbiker try the yak 15 too [23:48:22] nice plane [23:52:52] yak 141 tho [23:53:56] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHZfujKbHA [23:53:56] YouTube - ULTIMATE ACCURACY [23:53:59] yak 130 [23:55:53] valentina blew up a rocket and it crushed jeb then they were friend [23:56:30] also im pretty sure kerbals are mushrooms so none of this makes sense [23:57:46] im not exactly sure which version the yak is [23:57:58] I have one from 1.3.1 I think [23:59:04] the one you downloaded is 1.3.1 too [23:59:09] I bet wrong folder [23:59:46] alternatively you can try this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U-5s0pVGY0gSzyRf70wkgLWsb1txJxNF/view?usp=sharing