[00:16:07] Item Number 1: Space, in fact, exists. <-- somehow i think that this line would get more controversial replies than anything else you could write... [00:47:10] Nah. They'd have to claim something controversial like "earth is not a cube" or "birds exist" [02:40:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|ktns' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:08:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:18:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:18:14] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:00:07] m7000 survey scanner needs to be below 60000km above surface, i keep slowing down in the atmosphere and crashing [11:03:34] ok then [11:36:35] Scanning Jool? [12:02:42] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/M700_Survey_Scanner#Scanning_requirements [12:07:28] he seems to have a few issues with amount of 0s and > vs < [12:45:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:22:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:38:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:11:59] https://66.media.tumblr.com/b541538a7a336cbe7079545a90e75160/tumblr_pw0hrpWJr21xoyw8po1_540.png [15:33:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:31:56] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [20:31:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:52:09] messing about, seems I made a rather.. cheap and somewhat cheaty little Mk1 pod flier thing using 3 juno engines and winglets [21:52:35] and ya.. RW a very OP at this stage. [21:53:48] Does it break 450 m/s in level flight? [21:54:56] you could say that... [21:55:18] if I recall.. wasn't Mach1 around 360m/s or something? [21:55:48] 340ish at sea level [21:56:31] pulling it out again.. speed wasn't too big an issue, it was controllability [22:02:39] ugh.. acclerating into daylight on the runway... a bit trippy watch'n the stars pass over while looking north >_< [22:06:25] eriophora 450 m/s level flight, well it did that no problem, more like 640 m/s https://imgur.com/a/hx1YFMU [22:07:26] and, yes, I can land it without crashing back on the runway [22:08:21] that is ingenious [22:10:38] also someone should fix airspeed on intakes.. uses orbital speed instead of surface [22:15:48] and touchdown [22:16:43] I do a twin mk1 command pod version with 6 juno engine packs to fly out to highlands and mountains for science. Have to be careful landingon mountains as juno's don't preform quite as well high up [22:19:29] technically, I don't need the winglets. They more there for directionatly [22:22:30] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: By Korolev's bright glare! [22:23:11] Alright, I've now gotten to the point in this awful movie where Salyut 7 has a fire (which did not happen) that forces it to explosively decompress (which also did not happen). [22:25:20] Better than by Teller's bright glare >_> [22:25:36] THE GLOW, THE BEAUTIFUL GLOW! [22:26:20] Also: The movie has foreign news media speculate that Salyut 7 is going to crash and it has nuclear weapons aboard that will detonate. [22:29:46] And now the Soyuz got gutted by the fire. I'll give you three guesses as to whether this happened or not. [22:32:06] … are they going to launch a replacement Soyuz? [22:33:22] Given how poorly this movie is constructed, I'd almost expect them to simply pilot it back to Earth by eyeball. [22:34:12] To my knowledge, only one unmanned Soyuz has ever been sent up to a space station as a relief ship. Otherwise, they were always occupied, mostly as part of the Interkosmos program. [22:35:04] Ah, yes, Soyuz 32 to Salyut 6 because the original relief craft had failed to dock. [22:37:00] huh [22:45:12] weapon wise... didn't one of the designs include some 'space gun' for anti spy satellite thing? [22:46:06] One of the earlier Salyuts [22:48:00] looking it up.. ya 3 [22:48:22] though wasn't ever fired while anyone was on board due to concerns over shaking the station [22:50:46] It's believed the ~23mm cannon (exact caliber and specifications are unknown) was less intended as an ASAT weapon and more for ASAT missile defense. [22:51:42] Remember that the Almaz configuration Salyuts were intended as military observation stations, so it was thought they might be ASAT missile targets. [22:57:23] Teehee, they light up a cigarette in space. [22:58:33] Did they at least burn a bunch of CPU time to make the smoke interesting? [22:59:05] Nope, it actually looks like something from a game developed a decade ago. [22:59:21] They used up all their CGI time for zero-g water. [22:59:31] Did I mention I hate this movie? [23:01:32] Which one? [23:01:53] What makes this smoking all the worse is that A. There's no fresh air running through the ship and B. THE STATION WAS JUST ON FIRE. [23:02:12] Azander: Salyut 7 the movie. It's like if Apollo 13 was directed by Michael Bay. [23:02:41] ahhhh, too many inaccuracies ruined Apollo 13 for me too (little things) [23:02:42] And I don't mean Bad Boys Michael Bay or The Rock Michael Bay. No, I mean Pearl Harbor Michael Bay, but in space. [23:03:46] ugh.. youtube channel I follow posted a bunch of actual footage from Apollo 11. Trouble is, they at least half a day long each [23:03:46] This movie is so inaccurate, I literally have over 2,100 words for the first 16 minutes of run time. This movie runs nearly two hours. [23:04:27] [sarcasm]NASA probably removed the parts with aliens![/sarcasm] [23:04:38] hyper acurrate, stupid long vs inaccurate, supposedly short? [23:04:56] Long and so inaccurate I think I've suffered a severe concussion. [23:05:15] ow [23:05:28] Even so, the filmmakers decided to add padding in the form of a Space Shuttle Challenger stealing Salyut subplot. [23:05:38] eh.. well, I saved my videos, need right mood to sit back and watch. Probably take me a few months on and off [23:06:18] Amusingly, the only Challenger mission that would've taken place in the timeframe of the movie was both canceled and for an entirely different inclination for the infamous TDRS-B sat. [23:06:22] scolar_visari how do you rate it against Gravity movie? [23:06:42] JVFoxy: Worse. At least Gravity doesn't pretend to be based on real events. [23:07:02] who needs satellite killers when you got space debris planet-wide.. [23:07:13] In retrograde orbits at all altitudes! [23:07:45] Action: Scolar_Visari notes Salyut 7 even has a Gravity moment with debris crippling the station, which is a lot more exciting than a simple bad relay preventing the batteries from charging. [23:09:44] shows with anti-space plots: Earth: final conflict - flying cars but aliens programmed a barrier into them. Defiance: radiation, though guess being in stasis helps get around that? [23:10:09] Action: UmbralRaptor is convinced that you could do a good miniseries about the Salyuts and Mir [23:10:10] Space 1999 [23:10:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:12:00] Azander now sure how that relates to anti-space travel plot theme. Though how much nuke power was back there that pushed moon out from earth and not oboliterate everything? [23:12:57] that and the Eagles were nuke powered without needing fuel [23:13:23] yet they had plumes :P [23:13:28] Scolar_Visari: long time no see, how ya been [23:14:36] Action: Scolar_Visari grumbles something about suffering for one's art. [23:14:56] UmbralRaptor: Salyut 1 could be a pretty good movie in and of itself. [23:15:37] Ditto with Mir during its later years. [23:15:57] I mean, Soyuz T-13, T-15, That Progress collision… [23:16:33] Well Salyut 1 did have the crew dying on the way back down. [23:17:24] Action: Scolar_Visari remembers they can separate the movie into its own window. [23:18:12] I might actually rival the Pearl Harbor BadHistory thread if I keep this up. [23:18:22] technically, you could use a fusion core to power thrusters, but you'd need to input some reaction mass, or else, core would eventually run out [23:18:49] Or use the fusion process as propulsion! [23:19:18] Action: Scolar_Visari actually likes to think that the ships in Elite: Dangerous employ fusion thermal rockets because they don't need high IS. [23:20:07] using a nuke like a ram jet.. pass air over it.. eh. so, radiators? [23:20:32] Well there have already been terrestrial tests of fission nuclear thermal rockets using liquid hydrogen propellant. [23:20:43] This would be the same, albeit with a proton chain fusion reactor. [23:22:21] The full proton chain? Including deuterium production? [23:22:45] However it works in Battletech. [23:23:02] Action: Scolar_Visari suspects tiny fusion gnomes are responsible. [23:24:13] 10 minutes left. Thank the Chief Designer! [23:27:27] The spacesuit CGI is pretty bad, too. It's not far removed from Babylon 5, which makes me think they must've done the animations in a single night. [23:28:43] B-5, have to give them a little slack, given the era they did CGI in [23:29:16] This movie has no such excuse, especially since there aren't any likeable characters like Ambassadros Londo and G'Kar. [23:29:37] Action: Scolar_Visari winces upon seeing the not Soyuz-T again. [23:29:59] OH BOY HERE'S CHALLENGER! [23:30:58] Given how this has been I'm going to assume that Challenger has Columbia's black chines for no reason [23:31:28] UmbralRaptor: Amusingly, one of the few errors pointed out on the film's IMDB page was the fact that Challenger was boasting NASA insignia from the 90's! [23:31:55] Oh, they have the meatball? [23:32:58] Yep! [23:33:24] Phew! It's over, now I just have to write a small novel. [23:53:03] Oh good grief they couldn't even get T-13's launch time remotely accurate! [23:53:17] You'd think there'd be HD stock footage of a Soyuz launch during the day!