[01:11:16] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:51:23] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:07:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:12:46] Why do I have to press space twice to throw chutes? [03:14:11] The open ocean is very shallow. I can see a shadow on the ground. [03:14:32] Something about partial vs full deployment? [03:15:17] ok, I'll try that. [03:16:20] They didn't deploy at all, but maybe would deploy at some altitude. [03:16:59] alternatively was the icon yellow or red? [03:17:06] white [03:17:13] huh [03:17:21] gray? [03:17:26] safe [03:17:34] yeah, odd then [03:17:50] happens all the time. [03:17:57] >500 m above the ocean? [03:18:04] much higher. [03:18:16] oh [03:18:29] 5-10 km [03:18:31] IIRC: partial deployment is based on pressure, full based on radar altitude (default 500 m) [03:18:33] I guess [03:19:18] Action: darsie looks for another part to deorbit ... [03:19:56] there [03:25:37] staging wasn't active? [03:26:02] it needs an additional space occasionally to activate [03:26:38] iirc it blinks green then on the lower left next to what stage you're on [03:33:34] It's blinking. [03:36:52] http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot131.png [03:36:59] 18 km [03:38:53] I hit space at 5 km, heard some gas escape, nothing else happend. [03:39:17] Ohh, staging is permanently lit now. [03:40:21] Hit space again at 500 m, chutes deployed. [03:41:19] stage light is off. [03:42:23] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: I have not failed 10,000 times. I have successfully discovered 10,000 ways that probably didn't work. [03:44:07] At a cost of <1000 kerbals! [03:44:43] UmbralRaptop: Er, heh, that's right. Only 1,000 . . . [03:45:04] Action: Scolar_Visari draws over several zeroes on official documents with a marker. [03:45:17] heh [03:45:27] On today's comment section theater: "The Chinese scientists/government sending a rover to the Moon is a grave mistake. That rover will be causing some destruction of the Moon's regolith with its wheels, and may lose mobility as happened to "Spirit" on Mars." [03:45:44] darsie: more random guessing: probe that hit reentry blackout? [03:45:50] Lunokhod don't real. LRV don't real. [03:46:18] UmbralRaptop: Don't have that active and I'm subsonic. [03:46:20] "Their rover will certainly become stranded somewhere in that type of terrain - smooth it is not. [03:46:21] The US/NASA did not send a rover to the Moon - only a lander - which was a very wise decision." [03:46:35] Yep, LRV don't real. [03:46:55] Apollos 15-17 never happened [03:47:19] i asked this before, but i don't think i got a useful answer, what happened to the ptscientist project? [03:47:59] last i heard of it was that they missed some google funds deadline [03:48:03] "The Chinese gov't could be slapped with a charge of criminal negligence (or something similar) for defacing a very valuable satellite that controls the tides of Earth and keeps the global equilibrium." [03:48:07] ptscientist project? [03:48:54] https://ptscientists.com/ <-- probably their website [03:49:09] Scolar_Visari: wait until they hear about LCROSS, GRAIL, Lunar Prospector, or the fates of the S-IVbs [03:49:17] Eddi: https://spacenews.com/former-google-lunar-x-prize-teams-still-working-on-lunar-landers/ [03:49:52] UmbralRaptop: "Another thing that concerns me, is what Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin have said wrt what they had seen on the surface of the Moon - ships - big ones and not ours." [03:50:26] I think this person is an example of some one whom is fractally wrong. [03:50:27] when i first heard about them they were still "part time scientists" [03:50:42] Martian methane: not looking good. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/12/martian-methane-spotted-2004-has-mysteriously-vanished [03:50:56] they were giving some talks about how they approach things at some CCC a few years ago [03:51:44] but i have not actively followed their project [03:52:07] UmbralRaptop: I blame volcanic outgassing and local geography. [03:52:21] probably [03:53:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmgzrDCrP30 <-- this is what i meant [03:56:13] That's a depressing date stamp [03:57:20] I hadn't heard of them until now, but if they were doing something GLXP related, they've probably not in good shape. [03:57:27] unrelated https://twitter.com/VVVScienceTeam/status/1072885053435179009 [03:57:27] Night sky over La Silla https://t.co/NgcWD5sdU6 https://t.co/QTmSHMVMU7 [03:57:49] All just special effects. [04:07:43] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/156593-what-does-a-flashing-green-stage-indicator-mean/ [04:08:25] Guess it's because I'm decoupling 6 klaw ships one after the other from a stack. [04:42:20] usually happens for me when i'm adjusting staging mid-flight [04:51:20] That's a depressing date stamp <-- which part do you mean? that it was 7 years ago, or that it was between christmas and new year? (the CCC event is always at that time) [04:52:14] That it was 7 years ago. [05:52:54] the project was already like 2 years old by that point [05:53:21] it probably evolved a bit since then [06:13:29] oh.. joys of being on laptop that can't run ksp... sigh.. [07:43:19] electron did not launch [07:43:38] i am a bit behind because internet failed [07:57:36] lol the wintergatan video [08:22:13] nsfw (not safe for water) [08:28:45] what is [08:28:56] lithium [08:28:59] and sodium [08:29:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESreJjGx-I [08:29:36] YouTube - Ghost in the Shell - lithium flower [08:32:19] although i doubt lithium hasa smell, lithium based lubricants do [08:32:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMG1WCVff0I [08:33:00] YouTube - Blue Oyster Cult: ME 262 [08:40:17] lol [08:42:04] blue oyster hehe, that reminds me of police academy [09:30:52] hah insight selfie [09:32:10] https://twitter.com/nasainsight [09:37:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:45:58] man have we got far since pathfinder, now the landers can make selfies and ramble on twitter [15:19:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:23:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/522795217628168192/20181209194841_1.jpg [15:33:04] hmm, youtube has 1.75 speed now [15:45:50] http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1373871-860_galleryfree-lirf-1373871.jpg <-- so they say the white dot and its "shadows" is jupiter at different moments in time, but what's the other series of black dots? [15:47:13] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:03:32] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:14:51] hehe scott calculated that the leg deployment helped [16:15:04] it halved the speed [16:15:43] but then the rcs then needs to do double the work [16:35:11] wow, i really lost a ton of my larger craft [16:35:33] all of the space station stuff [16:35:42] all of the newer mongoose variants [16:36:43] those two in particular, i spent hours per craft changing little things to make it the best version for each use [16:37:36] sigh [16:41:35] did they really get rid of the "aim camera" feature? [16:41:42] if o, that's a huge mistake [16:41:45] if so*( [16:43:23] so they just unceremoniously remoed that feature? [16:43:30] i actually used that for docking [16:43:54] it was there last time i played [16:44:03] how do you bring it up? [16:44:06] never used it [16:44:23] possibly they hide it in additional controls setting thingie? [16:51:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:51:18] enabling/disabling rigid attach is also missing [16:52:30] no fuel control options either [16:52:53] kay this game is like stupid to play now, hat the hell did they do [16:53:11] what* [16:54:05] Action: UmbralRaptop missed something, did advanced tweakables get turned off? [16:54:06] those are just hidden [16:54:14] hidden how? [16:54:25] i've enabled all the things [16:54:30] its in sandbox [16:54:33] apparently not [16:57:48] Action: transitbiker looks [16:59:19] it was enabled [17:06:36] reloaded, now it works [17:11:12] i think i fixed the issue with this craft [17:20:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:20:28] i have a long road to recover to where i was in terms of craft built, but i think eventually i could pick up where i left off. [17:45:17] sometimes i seriously wonder whether other people are actually playing the same game. [17:48:44] With the available mods, it's possible that they aren't. [17:53:57] mods and even versions [18:44:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o raptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:23:43] so.. north pole base station on kerbin... nice big flat ground, to the edge of the horizon... desolate white all around. Plus side, full day cycle of sun [19:24:05] even if its just kissing the horizon a bit [19:47:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:53:21] messing with landing legs... spring/damp down to minimal. set one on a probe core, watch it sink to hte pad then kick. 116g... [20:03:41] Also, Full Throttle Remastered is free there for ~42 more hours. [20:03:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485177249465630720/522866060672761857/20181213210205_1.jpg [20:04:13] repair tentacles? [20:05:14] yes [20:06:38] https://www.akku.net/magazin/wp-content/uploads/Lithium.jpg "Do not disassemble the battery secretly" [20:06:52] "Avoid detonation" [20:11:06] well, obviously, if it detonated, you've not abided by the instructions so the company is not liable [20:12:27] Is deflagration fine? [20:12:28] so... 2nd baking attempt running [20:23:40] baking what, the video card again? [20:24:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnZ_sidmr4Y [20:24:05] YouTube - Mars 2020 Landing Site: Jezero Crater Flyover [20:28:42] hmm, scott again [20:29:22] what, finally virgin galactic made into space again? [20:29:26] hah only to american space [20:34:22] yes, indeed they need to fly safe [20:38:49] Up side, after another fligh or two, more people will have been to USAF space on SS2 than have died from it. [20:49:50] hmmmm I wonder of Rocket Lab will ever make a "Heavy" version of the Electron... [20:49:57] hehe [20:50:05] probably not [20:50:12] they are in a market niche [20:50:35] so maybe launch tomorrow? [20:50:38] Go on, call it a "Muon"... [20:50:45] hehe [20:50:57] oh no, in 2 days and 7 hours [20:51:18] (And if they ever need a superheavy version, Tau) [20:51:40] let's not go to warhammer :9 [20:52:07] hah [20:55:35] https://twitter.com/NASAInSight/status/1073293603114381312 [20:55:36] <NASAInSight> 👋 Hello from #Mars! The first pics of me taken from space show exactly where I settled down. See if you can spot my& https://t.co/Cr2R11z2n3 [20:56:03] i wanted a picture that shows it with the target landing ellipse [20:56:38] oh there is in the link in the tweet [21:02:17] nice [21:12:57] raptop: it's not usaf space [21:13:02] its American space [21:13:12] because the whole govt recognizes it [21:13:51] ah [21:31:13] raptop: both pilots are getting FAA astronaut wings [23:56:39] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net