[00:02:18] I got it! Chamber of Secrets-class Space Station [00:02:40] Opening the hidden module releases a super-carnivore. [00:04:49] Action: Scolar_Visari is actually keeping the best names for future Elite Dangerous ships. [00:05:18] On the subject of thigns difficult to launch, how do you do planetary installations lol [00:05:54] Twinerer: Read NASA's Design Reference Architecture, follow the instructions. [00:06:12] O.O [00:06:29] Step one: Get a heavy lift vehicle with 100 metric tons to Low Earth Orbit. [00:08:08] Is it okay if that 100 tonnes consists of wings, a cargo bay, and crew accomodations for 7? [00:08:57] well bed time [00:09:01] my head hurts [00:09:15] probably because I smoked my room with rocket candy again [00:09:39] UmbralRaptor: Nonsense. The STS would've been ~70 tons! [00:10:22] Alas, one wonders what Energia could've done. [00:13:20] Weeee! https://snag.gy/m5Jgyf.jpg [00:16:06] https://www.amazon.ca/Compaq-Presario-Desktop-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00005QDWA - my older computer which is at the lake cottage right now. [00:16:44] Can it play Doom 2 or Chex Quest? [00:17:21] I remember I had upgraded it to 512MB RAM, 160GB HDD, and nVidia Geforce4 MX [00:17:49] So... I went down the rabbid hole of Wikipedia [00:17:57] looking for Greek and Roman deiti [00:18:00] That's funny. A lot of those types of 'pooters have integrated GPUs. [00:18:05] ve2dmn: That's a long, confusing list. [00:18:13] Mars > Ares, btw. [00:31:08] Welcome back, icefire. Much has changed since your departure [00:31:15] The channel is a . . . changed place. [00:31:23] damage report [00:31:33] Scolar_Visari: I found the list I needed... now I only need to choose between a Greek, Norse, Babylonian Sumerian, Shinto, Slavic, ... [00:31:49] While you were away, #KSPOfficial transitioned into the Immaterium without the aid of a Gellar field. We are all . . . changed. [00:32:08] ve2dmn: Slavic and Mesopotamian deities need more press, outside Lord Baal, of course. [00:32:26] ve2dmn: Sumerian. In the original cuniform. [00:32:51] icefire: It was all very exciting. Some people ripped out their eyes and spoke in latin, and the paleontologist from Jurassic Park ran around and turned things into a Slasher movie. [00:32:53] so either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamayun or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabu [00:33:04] I like nabu [00:33:25] ve2dmn: I would've gone for obscure Baltic deities from the Prussian Crusades era. [00:33:36] There is also 𒀭𒀭𒉀 [00:33:38] But that is hard to write in KSP [00:34:10] Mul Mul? [00:34:22] Action: Scolar_Visari thinks the Warhammer Total War Lizardmen have Aztec deities covered. [00:34:57] It was either a 'titan' sort of reference, a 'Vulcan' imagery or a wisdom thing [00:35:12] So I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_knowledge_deities [00:35:13] hrm [00:35:27] Vulcan was an Olympian, not a Titan! [00:37:54] too many good names :/ [00:38:09] I could have simply gone with 'Stella', Latin for Star [00:38:23] You're running into the same problem I have with getting my ship prefixes for Stellaris. [00:39:23] Initialisms are so boring, but having each ship prefixed, "St." or, "Blessed" makes for flavor for those spiritualist civs! [00:39:58] Which reminds me, I should probably add in a few fictional name packs. Seeing, "Angry Plumage" a hundred times in a game gets old fast. [00:41:40] Proposal: a name pack consisting entirely of dromeosaurs. [00:42:29] UmbralRaptor: That would not be a very long list, I would think. I could easily see four V. mongoliosis running the entire science dept. [00:43:37] "Oh, you're looking for PROFESSOR V. mongoliosis. I'm ADMIRAL V. mongoliosis. The professor's down on level 2, past the bathroom and across the hallway from U. ostrommaysorum's office." [00:44:17] Hah! [00:45:42] There are, thankfully, dromaeosauridae appearance mods. [00:46:49] Still . . . I require Warhammer Lizardmen. [00:48:28] Whatisthisidonteven: I'm doubt that NASA's ground stations around the world were able to pick up radio signals from Voyager 1 that were strong enough to be displayed clearly on a computer screen. The radio signals would have turned fuzzy already upon received by the ground stations. [00:48:58] Questionable grammatical style aside . . . I don't think that's how any of that works. [00:49:51] ? [00:50:07] They were in doubt that New Horizon's recent photos were authentic, it seems. [00:50:33] Which is just as well, given both Voyager's are also still broadcasting non-photographic data. [00:50:37] I think I have a winner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataksak [00:50:54] Because of the odd colorscheme? [00:51:08] ve2dmn: Will your Atakask-class station bring joy and happiness to multi-millionaire customers? [00:51:09] ve2dmn: be careful with the engines. [00:51:33] Scolar_Visari: That's just the Exosphere Hotel [00:51:37] UmbralRaptor: Because reading the article that the images were published in would've been too hard. [00:51:56] I plan to make a Casino [00:52:16] With 100 lights. And 4 ASteroids [00:52:19] ve2dmn: Ah, so it'll bring pain amd misery to gamblers who forgot to bring magnetic cards for their space Texas Holdem game. [00:53:23] Oh dear . . . "NASA: Idea: Attach equipment that will photograph and send back the photos and other information to an asteroid passing close enough to Earth to accomplish this task. And possibly get pictures of the Kyber Belt where these objects hang out in large numbers. This could be the ultimate E ticket ride of this period." [00:54:01] Scolar_Visari: Kyber Belt? where's that? [00:54:26] Catching a ride to interstellar space on a Kuiper Belt Object would be like catching a ride out of town by riding around the carousel in the local park. [00:54:30] (sure, I could google, but conversation is better) [00:54:59] taniwha: in Cyberspace, next to the Bitcoin pants [00:55:02] Khyber Belt: where Jeddah is located. [00:55:12] UmbralRaptor: I KNEW IT [00:55:44] ah [00:55:44] This is like, seriously, worse than comic book astronomy. [00:56:04] At least those occasionally have compelling characters and engrossing plot lines. [00:56:40] Certain Superman movies excluded. [01:02:51] Action: Scolar_Visari is once again amused by the release of games of now-dead GW games. [01:07:39] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to Dangerously Elite [01:24:21] what's the minimun safe speed to open the parachutes? [01:24:57] 300 I think...depends on what atmosphere though [01:27:35] Jeb hit the water at around 530... [01:28:55] ve2dmn: sounds like you need drogues? [01:29:07] and a shallower reentry? [01:29:08] or less mass [01:29:12] that too [01:30:25] reentry should be pod, chute, and /maybe/ heat shield [01:31:09] yeah! I somehow managed to slow enough :D [01:31:17] Thank you monoprop [01:34:35] a good altitude for your periapsis is around 20km [01:34:39] Find time my funds meter shows a 'K' [01:34:53] 11226K funds [01:38:04] ve2dmn: you should send a car to space to celebrate [01:38:36] how about a Truck? [01:40:56] And my scansat contract is all confused... [01:41:48] It thinks my Eve Sat is around Duna [01:43:43] it also think the sat for Contract around Eve 1 & 2 are the same sat... [01:44:08] so in contract too it wants me to deorbit the sat before I achive the right orbit... [01:44:40] Luckely all that is optional, so I can still complete both contract with 1 Sat, I just lose on the optional reward [01:45:56] i always have trouble with reentry on the first few carreer flights, before orbiting [01:55:09] Eddi|zuHause: I haven't had trouble with it since I worked out that a trajectory that puts you near the eastern peninsula is safe [01:56:13] (that's for stock, FAR makes it a little safer because pods are draggier) [02:03:06] I'm starting to think I'm dislexic... I re-read my stuff that I said earlier, and I sound like an ape with a keyboard [02:03:46] but we're all apes with keyboards [02:05:18] btw, I think I found the problem I have with USI ART mod [02:05:28] Although, I'm not sure how to fix it... [02:06:21] Action: taniwha bites tongue [02:06:25] it's as if the game saved 2 different potatoroid mesh and used the one with the smallest Id [02:07:03] ... no comments... [02:07:51] ;seen RoverDude [02:07:51] ve2dmn: roverdude (~roverdude@63.116.147.2) was last seen posting in #kspofficial 144 days, 14 hours and 12 minutes ago [02:08:51] If I ever get motivated, I might take a look at the code... [02:09:18] I suggest a swimming pool full of holy water [02:09:59] bah. Better then my crappy code [02:11:10] I doubt it [02:11:46] USI ART is the mod that got the least love out of USI [02:11:52] "[11:07] ... no comments..." the only true way of programming [02:12:25] "But the code *IS* the comments." [02:12:33] GlassYuri: you have not been programming for very long [02:12:48] the code is the comments for the what and how [02:12:59] actual comments are for the why [02:13:26] I know that [02:13:31] With the classic : // Will explain later [02:13:49] ve2dmn: and who do you think that harms the most? :) [02:14:04] ve2dmn: ART? [02:14:12] asteroid resource something [02:14:17] Me, because I can't read my own damn PERL from 1997 [02:14:26] taniwha: btw not sure if you're aware but I'm actually studying game programming, and we get taught to comment the obvious :/ [02:14:27] ve2dmn: exactly: the writer of the comment [02:14:42] Those Regex were pretty clever, but after 6 months, they were unreadable [02:14:42] GlassYuri: :( [02:15:05] ve2dmn: yeah, comments are for yourself, six months later [02:15:15] (for me once, it was six MINUTES later!!!) [02:15:56] TheKosmonaut: https://github.com/BobPalmer/ART [02:16:45] you can hollow-out asteroids and turn them into tanks of various sorts [02:16:50] (or living quarters) [02:17:02] Action: taniwha ponders the chances of finding online an article he read in a magazine 22 years ago [02:17:35] taniwha: if you can remember it to have been exactly 22 years then you might have a chance [02:17:49] +/- 1 [02:19:55] If you recall the magazine, and they have online archives, probably quite high. [02:20:09] that I do not [02:20:21] and it was a photocopy from one, so it might have been even older [02:21:17] taniwha: my horrible, horrible code: https://github.com/ve2dmn/kOS-Script/blob/master/Match_inclination.ks [02:22:12] along with when I tried to write a mod: https://github.com/ve2dmn/AsteroidScanner/blob/master/MyAsteroidScanner/MyScanner.cs [02:22:16] ve2dmn: I've seen worse [02:22:41] it's always fun to read code and think "which idiot wrote this" [02:22:44] // Stuff [02:22:47] when that idiot was you 5 years ago [02:22:49] so very informative :P [02:23:03] Know about thedailywtf ? [02:23:04] or half a year ago [02:23:05] Eddi|zuHause: try 5 months ago :P [02:23:22] Action: taniwha remembers a certain swap function in actual KSP code [02:23:33] caused much grief for all of KSP 1.1.x [02:24:27] what did it do?...or didn't do? [02:24:45] It made ice cubes [02:24:47] ve2dmn: your comments are... in need of improvement [02:24:52] in some openttd development branch we used to have a comment like "// TODO doesn't work <- WHAT doesn't work?" [02:25:00] (no point duplicating documentation available elsewhere) [02:25:11] taniwha: told you. I'm a not a developper [02:25:20] Draconiator: it caused the second intercept point to disappear [02:25:30] ve2dmn: yet :) [02:25:37] Eddi|zuHause: love that game :D [02:26:02] it's one of my favourite comments of all time [02:26:35] Draconiator: still happens a bit now when the two points are too close to each other, but that's due to the difficulty of separating the roots [02:27:08] Draconiator: but that particular bug deleted the second point when it was supposed to swap the two points so they were in the correct chronological order [02:27:15] heh I once saw a stackoverflow (I think) question about people's favorite comments [02:27:57] Draconiator: when I found the bug, "what idiot wrote this code" is almost exactly what went through my mind. I actually cried when I check the commit logs [02:28:18] er, when I checked [02:28:24] Stuff: https://github.com/ve2dmn/AsteroidScanner/blob/master/MyAsteroidScanner/MyScanner.cs#L406 [02:28:49] one of them was basically one of these three page long one star amazon reviews but about the psd file format [02:30:45] taniwha: have you ever looked up a problem online and found an answer by yourself? I have [02:31:28] I don't think so [02:33:16] My current job is to automate everything so that I can then lose my job [02:33:30] I think I was actually taking over an abandoned mod (for a different game),, ran into some problem, looked it up and found my own advice I gave to the original devs of that mod about two years earlier [02:34:36] hehe [02:36:18] ve2dmn: automate everything and drive humans out of work! not because machines can do the same work better but because there is nobody left who is capable to fix the automation! [02:36:51] GlassYuri: to be honest, I'm running into trouble with Docker and Ansible [02:37:52] So I don't think I'll be out of a job soon [02:47:42] Horizon Zero Dawn is an interesting take on that [02:49:14] today's xkcd hits home. a lot: https://xkcd.com/1954/ [02:52:06] hehehe [02:52:15] yeah [02:52:43] Some days I don't think I deverse my degree [02:52:48] once upon there was this science fiction story where mankind invented maintenance-free nuclear power stations, and 1000 years later they started to break down, but there was nobody alive anymore who remembers the technology [02:57:41] taniwha: https://thedailywtf.com/articles/if-it-s-stupid-and-it-works [02:58:40] ve2dmn: don't try to understand the results of genetic algorithms then :p [02:59:28] Eddi|zuHause: not my speciality no [03:01:07] genetic algorithms are basically: you have infinite monkeys with typewriters, and wait for one to write shakespeares complete works [03:01:23] Eddi|zuHause: hardly [03:01:23] truly [03:01:35] https://thedailywtf.com/articles/warp-me-to-halifax [03:01:59] Eddi|zuHause: you're missing the important part of the story [03:02:03] ie, selection [03:02:31] i used to read tdwtf when i was slacking off at work [03:02:55] but i quit my last job because they didn't have flexible hours, and i really needed them [03:03:47] like, talking to random people on IRC at 4AM isn't compatible with showing up at work at 8AM [03:04:35] Speaking of 4AM, It's my bed time [03:14:26] https://i.redd.it/6ah41vbuouf01.jpg it's photos like this that make me miss fencing [03:32:52] bwuahahah, its almost ready https://i.imgur.com/wQ3175q.png [03:58:09] TheKosmonaut: http://lakshmanfencingcontractors.com/images/23.jpg [04:56:02] I'm thinking one of my Lithium-fueled spacecraft could land on Duna...thing is like 15 tons and puts out around 60 units of thrust [05:51:46] taniwha: never seen that joke before. [05:52:23] Besides the few million times my father made it before I went for any practice or competition [05:53:14] I was doing fencing (foil) a bit when I was 17 and mom told me a joke about a bushman who heard about a fencing competition and showed up with his spool of wire and other tools. [05:54:14] I would watch either competition, really. [05:54:31] I think I'd watch the bushman one more :) [06:06:02] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/962750602223566848 [06:06:03] Now, if I can just figure out how to attach those to a really big shark ... [06:06:04] lol elon [09:10:02] https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DV3hpR7WsAEj3qn.mp4 [11:27:47] https://78.media.tumblr.com/f6ebe63c42071a8b18428a9aa17af3fe/tumblr_inline_ooobmaxlw61r5mj7y_540.jpg [11:28:35] why is that a photo of a screen? Why not a screenshot? That hurts :| [11:30:12] idk [11:30:32] it's from a dude that tried to re-write the bible when he was 7 and I want to full version [11:34:35] well, a few month back we had a new German "slang" here, which was greatly abusing the language and some guy (I don't know if he'd like to be called a Comedian) wrote a bible in this language [11:34:46] it is bad, but also hillarious :D [11:37:25] most bibles are [11:39:58] The one I know is very boring [11:46:07] https://78.media.tumblr.com/53974f34b12f2814fab62c271712a626/tumblr_p2thwrpQrw1wnvmcro4_540.jpg [11:50:02] I'm hungry [11:50:09] but I'm too lazy too cook [11:50:16] So, hm, cookies? [11:50:26] go out [11:50:30] find kebab [11:50:47] it's expensive here [11:51:03] is it more than 4.5¬? [11:51:17] I lost my project for February and March, so I have to cut down on almost all expenses :| [11:51:28] Nobody seems to need someone with my knowledge [11:51:31] rip [11:51:32] Fluburtur: yeah, 5 EUR ;P [11:57:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:59:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:59:52] hii [14:00:17] o/ [14:01:03] Wondered, could anyone give me a little help with some mod installation trouble...? [14:03:32] What is it? [14:04:42] Trying to install RO but it freezes on loading [14:04:45] https://jpst.it/1aXlc [14:04:52] this is the last thing I get [14:05:56] running the 32 or 64-bit version? [14:06:25] 64-bit [14:09:43] the game still works but just stops loading [14:09:57] hi [14:10:15] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [14:10:15] You might want to check out the #RO channel [14:10:24] Also, check yo stagin' [14:10:28] No, not really :P [14:10:50] already did, They had no idea, heh. I guess I will wait until NathanKell wakes up [14:12:06] Another thing you might do on your own is removing the recommended mods and hope that the issue disappears. If it does, re-add them half-by-half to track down what exact mod does this and just play without it [14:16:11] https://i.gyazo.com/ac3cf833ee9480b2c7a295cd06aa62a5.png [14:16:32] Noice! [14:16:55] How many launches did it take to assemble? [14:17:09] And what's the destination? [14:21:03] Just one, launched it...I'll show ya later. but initiallty went to Minmus and now I'm headed to Duna [14:21:19] destination: void [14:36:51] .nextlaunch [14:39:23] https://i.gyazo.com/e0f4df3c22a4e6b81040e29f1957a361.png - Next launch in a few minutes. [14:40:02] where is the stream, [14:52:03] Draconiator: if you have the Steam Overloay you can stream via that [15:03:36] alright I will go fly my canadair [15:03:43] hopefuly it will work well [15:09:04] Good luck! [15:39:20] test flight done [15:39:41] about 20kph of wind but it flew nice [15:39:46] even hovered for a good minute [15:39:53] but I had to put a lot of down trim [15:57:52] Fluburtur: imagine if the flight pioneers had access to cardboard [15:58:21] fun stuff would have happened [15:59:02] I wonder if you had to re-invent flight with modern items, what it would look like... [16:00:24] Like a Boeing. I think. [16:00:37] Or like a Falcon 9 [16:00:44] APlayer: maybe start small [16:01:17] Then take any small modern plane ;-) [16:01:55] we'd get back to current state quite quickly, tbh [16:02:17] plane shapes have barely changed in the last decades, most changes happen in engines now [16:02:17] Thoses are industrial-made... the early pioneers were more like made-in-garage-type planes [16:02:35] Are there no made-in-garage modern planes? [16:02:44] APlayer: no clue [16:02:47] there are [16:02:55] not common, but there's some [16:03:21] They are kits you can buy to build, but thoses are more like IKEA then a true made-from-scratch [16:03:34] it's funny watching 80's documentaries about flight pioneering though [16:03:51] "these cheap plastic planes allow us to test concepts real quick" [16:04:08] 5 years later, computer simulation makes all that obsolete :v [16:04:17] Truga: Rapid prototyping is still a thing [16:04:33] yeah, but 99% of it happens in CAD [16:04:42] It's just that now, prototypes 1 to 23005 are in CAD [16:04:46] yeah [16:05:13] don't even need to book a wind tunnel, just outsource to your local gpu farm for $5 a TF [16:05:21] then once you have a design you like, you test it for reals.... and then go back to the drawing board with thte issues [16:07:12] That orbit seems wrong: http://stuffin.space/?intldes=2018-017A&search=Tesla [16:07:41] Might be the old 7000 km orbit. [16:07:47] not all that [16:07:52] simulations can be tricky to get right [16:08:04] ok, modeling is also tricky because of the square cube law [16:08:24] Althego: which is why you try both [16:08:26] but in general there may be some vortices or unexpected things that happen in teality [16:08:32] well yeah [16:10:00] anyone playing with MKS? I have a hard time figuring out how to land the modules on minmus. I was thinking of making a vtol lander for each module but I can't make a stable craft [16:10:32] there is i video somewhere in which a few meter sized unpowered a380 is gliding and hitting a soft wall, while vortices are visible because of light things in the air. that was part of the official testing [16:11:49] I have an A380 camera :). [16:11:54] i cant find that [16:12:49] i remember it becausei t was actually gliding [16:12:57] not a wind tunnel test [16:13:04] maybe it wasnt a380 [16:13:48] Vooloo: there is a skycrane you can use [16:15:11] ve2dmn: You uncovered the TRUTH about the Tesla. The launch was staged (evidence: the orbits don't match), hence the video was fake and the Earth is flat! [16:15:37] they thought they uncovered the trutch when they saw the two booster streams beaing the same [16:15:44] APlayer: ... well someone is lying somewhere. [16:16:07] and outright rejected the idea they made a mistake while mixing them in a live stream [16:16:27] Althego: See? More evidence! [16:16:30] then they corrected it in the recording and then it made the flat earthers even more suspicious [16:16:44] Althego: there is no way to convince these people... NOTHING you can do or say would convince them [16:17:28] ve2dmn: Well, not quite [16:17:29] You can take them on a suborbital space flight and they would still think it's staged [16:17:46] yesb ecause the g forces can be faked and the window image is projected [16:17:54] then of course have them a spacewalk [16:18:02] then the helmet visor is prohected [16:18:15] the solution is obviously [16:18:30] throw them out through the airlock without space suite [16:18:32] You can tell them one thing they will believe: If you support their idea and tell them that the Earth is flat with some nonsenvidence [16:18:37] I propose we send them to the Van Allen belt... If they can't be convinced at least they won't be able to reproduce :D [16:19:05] I don't think reproduction is how the Flat Earth Theory spreads, though [16:19:23] i know of one flat earther who uses the usual normal arguments against the azimutal equidistant map trying to convinve the others they are wrong [16:19:38] but otherwise he is the same conspiracy theorist [16:19:59] These people makes me sad [16:20:11] it means we are doing really well [16:20:17] because these people are still alive [16:20:30] maybe [16:21:18] Fun activity: On stuffin.space, try to find an object with current orbital velocity above 10 km/s [16:21:19] I wonder how they explain the difference in length in the shadow at the same time between say, Here and Florida. [16:21:27] or the munar eclispe [16:21:36] reminds me of the the guys who crash landed on earth in hitchhiker.. [16:22:04] the telephone sanitizers [16:22:15] they sent them off because they didnt need them [16:22:21] Althego: "If you think you know so much about how to invent the wheel, tell me then, Which colour shoul it be wiseguy?" [16:22:45] (but the civilization was wiped out by a telephone infection) [16:23:28] Ooh, found a GTO-object at perigee [16:23:37] great teacher onizuka? [16:23:39] 9.8 km/s only, though [16:24:46] APlayer: try to find the Planet Money satelitte [16:25:07] or the oldest thing still in orbit [16:25:10] Sorry? [16:25:27] https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/12/01/567267573/planet-money-goes-to-space [16:26:03] sat_id=42996U [16:27:16] "We have our satellite, but we still need a mission." [16:27:21] KSP, in a nutshell [16:27:50] They basically did a report on the cubesat industry, and got to sign their name on one of the cubesat [16:28:18] nothing special about their sat except that the reporter's names are on it [16:28:58] "Your names, in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE" [16:29:12] hello [16:29:48] can we play the game please [16:29:56] Ooh, this one might exceed 10 km/s in a few minutes [16:29:58] Action: APlayer watches [16:30:03] Guest41260: issues? [16:30:15] ok [16:31:03] Guest41260: I hereby grant exclusive permission for you and your company ("we") to play the game [16:31:11] Or not [16:31:33] APlayer: there is also a group for the sat collision [16:31:47] Yeah, saw that a while ago [16:31:51] Creepy [16:31:55] scary [16:32:02] Yes, scary [16:32:05] Better word [16:32:20] I wonder how long until all the pieces deorbit [16:32:34] Action: APlayer 's English skills are not perfect (at least yet) [16:32:52] that's ok. Mine aren't either [16:35:17] While we are at that, I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me when they notice a mistake I made, because that is the only way for me to learn to avoid them [16:35:44] I'm a descendant of the New France colonists who came from Normandy and Brittanny 400 years ago. English is hardy my first language [16:36:16] Also, 10 km/s candidate object is at 9.6 km/s so far [16:36:35] But I don't think it'll make it [16:36:59] Periapsis is at 500 km, object is at 900 km [16:37:33] (And no, I will not use vis viva) [16:38:33] object id = ? [16:38:38] http://stuffin.space/?intldes=1989-006B [16:40:01] I guess it won't go past 9.95 or so [16:41:27] Oh, it did go past [16:42:39] Well, the periapsis data was a lie [16:43:05] And we have 10 km/s, haha [16:43:42] hah new wolfie video [16:45:07] APlayer: try 1989-006F [16:45:28] or 1989-006K [16:46:42] it will take a while for these to fall down [16:46:43] That launch had a LOT of debris [16:47:11] I guess for a 1989 Geosat it didn't matter that much [16:47:19] ve2dmn: Both of them have a perigee above 006B and apogee below 006B [16:47:32] And 006B just barely hit 10 km/s [16:48:13] They migh get to 9.99 still [16:49:13] 1989-006D has somewhat better chances [16:50:05] (This is more entertaining than it should be) [16:50:13] yes [16:50:17] and I have work to do :/ [16:50:32] Also, perigee data is a lie again [16:51:06] 1989-006K made it to 9.94km/s [16:51:29] hehe [16:51:34] D is at 9.95 and at perigee [16:52:03] it's all about the inertia of the D [16:52:44] Anyway [16:52:51] Action: APlayer finds a better thing to do [16:53:00] 1989-006K made it to 9.97km/s, still getting lower in altitude [16:53:13] Ooh, nice [16:53:14] nope. Perigee hit [16:53:20] Aww [16:54:04] F is going to be at Perigee in a few minutes [16:54:10] hah starman doesnt come back to earth in 2030 [16:54:29] Altitude 1200km and dropping [16:55:00] 2012-011B might be interesting when it comes down [16:55:29] (It will in 10 hours or so) [16:55:51] APlayer: put a timer to wake you up in the middle of the night [16:56:12] Action: APlayer is considering this option [16:56:20] in 10h it will be *my* bedtime [16:56:28] I'd rather use vis viva on this one, though :P [16:57:08] what there is a 3rd spacex droneship in the works? [16:59:21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVKy1mbf6Oo [16:59:21] YouTube - Turns Out Elon's Roadster Is NOT Going to The Asteroid Belt [17:01:36] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2018/02/12/elon-musk-plans-new-spacex-drone-ship-shortfall-gravitas/331576002/ [17:02:19] I'm glad they're making a third, having only two was significantly limiting. [17:02:39] article says dual barge landing with falcon heavy might happen [17:03:10] Simple redundancy seems pretty important here as well. [17:03:28] that too [17:04:32] ve2dmn: I am getting 16 km/s for 2012-011B, but that's escape velocity? [17:04:45] > escape vel, even [17:04:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio [17:04:52] YouTube - Hey Buddy, Can You Give Me a Hand? [17:39:07] Does setting my phone to a Wi-Fi hotspot named "M >" make me a bad person? [17:39:35] hehe [17:39:41] i cant even see these characters here [17:39:56] i can [17:40:06] telegu letter ja... [17:40:30] UmbralRaptor fyi, there's a ton of exploits in unicode rendering in many popular operating systems [17:40:39] hexchat is the only irc client for which i need to add fonts manually to work correctly with unicode [17:40:46] like, straight up remote code execution exploits [17:40:50] have fun with that :v [17:40:58] Truga: supposedly the above does bad things to OSX and iOS. [17:41:01] https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/037e/index.htm [17:41:02] haha [17:41:04] nice [17:41:17] the most evil thing you could do to a programmer [17:43:32] why is scene change getting slower as you play the game? [17:43:56] originally it is a split second, but later it becomes like 10 at which point i restart the game [17:43:59] indie game is leaking memory?? unpossible! [17:44:17] hi [17:44:29] first time here [17:44:39] I'm working on a custom control panel [17:45:10] does anyone have experience on that? [17:46:13] probably not people from here [17:46:28] but we like to look at them, there is a collection on the forums somewhere [17:46:35] I want to make one but I never get to making it [17:46:49] yep, I saw the forums [17:47:20] I'm planning to upload full documentation and instructions of how to make one when I end mine [17:53:56] 1 month until 1.4 [17:57:04] https://archive.org/details/msdos_Chuck_Yeagers_Advanced_Flight_Trainer_1987 - MEEEEEEEMORIES, my first flight simulator. [17:57:30] although the version I had came on a double-sided 5.25 floppy. [17:59:26] at what point do you call it a simulator? [17:59:34] i had some stuff on c64 [17:59:57] apache (loaded forever) and f-14, ace 1-2 [18:03:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:04:21] Roland: keep us posted, I'm very curious [18:05:01] Roland: you did see the full 'simpit' thread on the forum? [18:17:46] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7x2q49/just_finished_my_custom_ksp_keyboard/ [18:19:13] Eeeeeeeeeek, some people have way too much time lol [18:19:40] I find it cool, but it's an AZERTY keyboard [18:22:49] P? [18:23:51] eh i forgot the antenna on the orbital module. doesnt matte i will just have to dock passively. have lot of monoprop for that. amd the more i lose from that the more delta v i will have for the minmus burn [18:25:03] wait, isnt capslock the precision control? [18:25:14] bleh fn in lower left corner, abomination [18:25:23] and obviously an apple keyboard [18:25:31] Althego: that's the same Apple keyboard [18:25:42] The larger one is more sensible [18:26:08] (same keyboard as the small laptop I mean) [18:26:08] Fairly sure IBM are the ones who popularized that key's location anyhow [18:26:33] albino plant https://78.media.tumblr.com/bb9def26f3264cedbfeb6962def046ac/tumblr_nmog1zIS9h1u38l26o1_540.jpg [18:28:18] Huh, interesting...I thought albinoism was only restricted to non-plants. [18:28:22] ok maybe if it is in direct sight the dsn is strong enough to control it. the transsciever satellites need at least the smallest antenna need at least the [18:28:44] but i recovered the first stage (without the solids) [18:28:49] apple is fail [18:29:01] peach is the way to go [18:30:50] Melon is better [18:32:09] Tonight, I shall Scansat Eve... After we have our Condominium meeting [18:35:45] I ordered my battery yesterday why is it not here already [18:35:56] and it only comes from the nethelrnads so it shouldn't take long [18:36:54] Fluburtur: got stuck in Belgium? [18:37:05] idk [18:37:09] why would it be [18:38:09] it has to go through either there or Germany to get to you, no? [18:38:23] yeah I guess [18:38:49] but im mostly joking about being overly impationt [18:41:16] I don't know how efficient your postal system is, but I got stuff from Vancouver in less then 4-5 days [18:41:54] eh it depends [18:42:00] should still come within the week [18:42:10] ve2dmn: With current cost optimization measures (AKA "Globalization") it might very well end up going through Spain, Poland and the USA in that order, before arriving :P [18:45:04] APlayer: it varies a lot from carrier to carrier. [18:45:55] The American are always suprised to learn that we don't have Saturday delivery. [18:46:15] wait, does anybody? [18:46:17] I've seen all sorts of weird stuff. Things that were supposed to ship from Germany to Germany somehow ended up being in France and such [18:46:31] "logistic center" [18:47:18] also my speakers took a month to arrive, all inside the city [18:47:24] APlayer: yeah... it's more about who entered the information then were the physical package was [18:47:59] Althego: USPS does Saturday delivery [18:48:24] half of the package arrived on a saturday, weeks late, but they were doing overtime, so special case [18:48:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:52:16] https://i.gyazo.com/17d426aab019d9fb88ea85df905f9632.png - Best probe design I've come up with I think. [18:52:46] the antennae [18:53:31] Also, ve2dmn: Figured out why vis viva spat out escape velocity for object 2012-011B. I kind of neglected Earth's radius [18:53:52] lol [18:53:56] Draconiator: Is your probe intercontinental and ballistic? [18:54:16] Because it does look like it should be [18:54:42] Plus, it carries metal that generates a special kind of heat, as far as I can tall (bonus points if you get the reference) [18:55:19] I repaired my rocket fuel packing tool (marker of the right size) so now I need to prepare igniters [18:56:02] Ooh I think I know how to make the flat kerbin mod [18:56:21] Make the planet square? [18:56:22] Please refrain from such activities, haha [18:56:39] ve2dmn: no, just make it really really big [18:56:47] Like Minecraft big [18:57:03] if a planet has the same gravity as earth but 100 times the radius [18:57:25] then it has 10000 times the mass and 10 times the escape velocity [18:58:23] oren: the velocity at the equator would be much higher [18:58:45] if it has 1000 times the radius then the mass is 1000000 times and the escape velocity is 31.6 times [18:59:08] ve2dmn: obviously kerbin does not rotate [18:59:27] depend on the frame of reference [18:59:35] ve2dmn: New velocity estimate is 8.7 km/s :-( [18:59:35] then you have the sun orbit kerbin [19:00:13] ve2dmn: What about the sun orbiting a hypothetical point above the center of the Kerbidisc? [19:00:34] With turtles all the way down? [19:00:35] APlayer: yeah that would work better [19:00:37] The same way the FE-Theory claims it does? [19:00:50] Also, I meant to highlight oren, sorry [19:01:17] and therest of the planets would be the same size they are in stock [19:01:23] Also you need a wall that prevents you from going to space, I think [19:01:49] And, important (!) Duna should remain a sphere, although I have no idea where it is supposed to be located [19:02:22] And what's on the reverse of the flat Kerbin? [19:02:34] turtles all the way down [19:02:40] Death. [19:02:46] Are RA-2 antennas good enough to reach Kerbin from Dres? [19:02:59] Draconiator spam relays [19:03:00] BRB, sorry [19:03:15] APlayer: yeah the terrain texture would be compressed to be a tiny area around the space centre and then a 100 Km tall wall over the rest of the "planet" [19:05:40] to get to the planets you would have to mostly fly straight up [19:06:41] ti would have to involve some trickery [19:07:12] but i think it's possible in kopernicus to have a "body" with no actual SOI [19:08:00] oren: that seems a lot of work...for not much [19:08:06] ve2dmn: for fun! [19:10:22] so my igniters have an average resistance of 7.8 ohms [19:10:35] and glow red without burning out at about 8 bolts [19:10:37] volts* [19:10:41] so that's fairly nice [19:11:36] I will cook some fuel tomorrow so I will try to dip the igniters in those so they burn nice [19:14:08] Fluburtur: try to unplug them before dipping them in the fuel. Just in case. [19:14:24] yeah [19:15:05] I will try to remember having them not plugged into my battery and glowind red hot and smoking horible plastic fuems [19:15:38] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:17:59] what is the minimum safest equatorial orbital altitude for minmus? [19:20:20] 5 or 6 km IIRC? Best go for 10 and lower it while you can [19:21:24] I think I went to 5KM once. I could actually see the thing as it flew by. [19:21:45] yes but the game generated a kerbal on a 6-7 km orbit [19:22:32] 5772 m, IIRC. [19:22:41] Go for a catch-up orbit [19:24:44] ok then the kerbal is safe [19:25:06] it is some 2 days until i get ther. and there is an other part to retreive [19:25:18] maybe 2 collector crafts with 1 booster [19:27:11] Althego: Considered a Mars sample return approach to retrieving the Kerbal? :P [19:33:08] which is? [19:34:11] ok I built 5 igniters [19:34:25] eh i could have fulfilled this new contract for free if i had 1 more kerbal on this touris mission [19:34:37] now I will have to coat them in some fuel to make sure they work [19:34:54] i guess i just have to take the only kerbin orbit recruits to the mun then. 7 of them isntead of 5 [19:39:21] mhhh [19:39:38] I guess if the igniter is coated with fuel then the insiode of the fuel will ignite and sort of explode [19:39:56] well I guess it's good to create a lot of presure to start the engine [19:45:15] I stopped getting rescue missions for some reason [19:47:22] Maybe it's because I already have too many contracts... [20:00:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:34:18] so [20:34:57] I got my heli tweaked quite good and I finished my training gear so I just need to get my battery to be ready to learn flying on it [20:35:02] I guess I need to lower the rates [20:53:13] heh cant launch the dual minmus recovery mission, 4 probes coming in for kerbin in quick succession [20:55:10] Althego: Once landed four Mun probes that were launched from one rocket and came in at time intervals of 30 - 240 s. Oh, and I forgot attitude control and had persistent rotation installed, so I had to use the engines to rotate and no timewarping to kill it :P [20:55:28] haha [20:55:30] Actually, no, I lost one [20:56:20] I must have gotten the periapsis below Mun surface unnoticed, and it crashed while I was performing maneuvers on other probes [20:56:38] At least that's my theory, the other option being space kraken or whatever [20:56:59] But it was fun :D [20:59:19] Althego: What is your time interval? [20:59:54] around 20 minutes, but cant switch on kerbin because physiocs is running [21:00:08] anyway too busy to launch a minmus mission [21:00:29] largest solid booster from the mun survived reentry [21:00:43] 8 parachutes must be enough [21:00:58] I was about to ask if it also survived lithobraking [21:01:25] 2 second 2 probes give me all orbital gravioli sensor data from the mun, 34 measurements altogether [21:04:03] just who leaves a burnt out large solid booster on the mun anyway [21:04:56] somehow i knew it would be a nasty job, so i did a recon first to see what it was. about the worst thing you could recover, big, heavy, center of mass problems because long [21:06:05] You just don't use SRBs anywhere near the Mun [21:06:11] It's that simple [21:25:08] lol and now i got gravity surveys of the mun as contract, now that i come back with the mapping [21:25:17] and 2 minmus nodes coming up [21:48:06] now there is some time until bob comes back with the bulk of minmus science and the probe with the gravity and seismic data (that was not available when bob launched) [21:49:16] tomorrow i can design the dual minmus recover thing [22:16:43] alt... But will it slow down enough for chute deployment? [22:18:38] I have a dude that made a fairly nice HUD for rc airplanes [22:19:10] http://forum.flitetest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102150&d=1518555753&thumb=1 [23:02:49] taniwha: Are you around? [23:07:53] so I was talking with dudes [23:08:11] and got the ideo to make a plane with an automatic BB gun that shoots through the axle [23:08:19] and do combat with a friend [23:13:20] Action: Einarr RTFM'd the answer he needed. [23:14:07] On a related note, Extraplanetary Launchpads' manual isn't as bloated and nearly useless as other manuals I've had to deal with... [23:14:37] taniwha: Good job on a useable manaul. :)