[00:11:19] according to the guy who makes AVP it does [00:11:21] yay [00:35:57] Ok so after getting my kerbals back, my mission is now complete ... this is a mistake, i have not yet set foot on Moho, but my mission to land a rover there has been marked as done? how can i undo this to make mission active again? [00:59:35] i have a mission that's bugged and completed before i actually have. i want to re-open it. i have found it in the persistent file. does anyone know what i'm supposed to change? [01:15:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYS7UIUM_SQ [01:15:39] YouTube - Scientists Put the Brain of a Worm Into a Robot& and It MOVED [01:15:57] now make a robot play ksp [01:18:45] mmm... I seem to recall they did an autopilot sorta thing with rat brain cells.. [01:19:25] makes me wonder how easy it is to do interfaces between organics and electronics [01:19:42] synths when [01:19:51] also I want a computer in my brain [01:20:12] this way I can switch on autopilot and do stuff im supposed to do without having to think about it [01:21:33] ghost in the shell sorta does something similar... you could also talk to people mentally over long distances... [01:21:47] mind you, people were also able to 'hack' brains at the same time so.... [01:22:16] I guess with brain computer you can get brain data encription [01:22:36] using like chemicals and crap [01:22:48] so peoples have to guess you you feel and what you ate to hack you [01:23:40] but you know transhumanism sounds good to me [01:26:59] I think this is my 4th wind with KSP...I usually have a flurry of building and then don't touch it for months. [01:27:10] not so sure on computer inplants myself... I'm a bit more towrds self expressionisim [01:27:36] well I would like to have bionic hands with a bunch of tools inside [01:27:51] or stuff like that [01:30:21] heh.. going the more utilitarian route.. [01:30:33] I like to build and tinker with stuff [01:31:51] right now.. my mood been all over the place, or no where since new years. Keep wanting to lay down, with the little fuzz butt a lot of times.. [01:37:11] https://i.gyazo.com/6895cce2a8e8d06b48d9532d21aca4eb.png - There's what I'm calling the K-14, really wish there was a way to make stock swing wings... [01:37:37] second launch of my new career, sounding rocket with all .625m parts went to high orbital altitude :D [01:38:05] didn't make orbit, has no solar panels was dead for the entire trip shortly after I got my thermometer and barometer readings from space heh [01:38:38] wouldn't mind just making use of the smaller parts.. [01:39:08] I've visited churchill up north where they used to launch sounding rockets from. Most of it was to do research into the norhtern light effects [01:39:55] I used slightly rotated fins to spin stabilize it on the way up [01:40:09] didn't have to do anything except stage the engines as they died [01:41:14] only cost me 3751 spesos too, since all the sounding rocket parts are so cheap [01:42:26] spesos... that the offical ingame currency? [01:48:22] Hey, anyone knows if there are any plans to release CKAN as a snap? My distribution is not deb-based, but supports snaps. [01:49:55] not even sure what a 'snap' is.. [01:50:31] In short, it's intended as a distribution-agnostic Linux application. I'll ask on their github. [01:51:42] snap is just another form of package, not quite an application per se [01:52:07] more likely that whomever makes the snaps could package CKAN for you [01:52:19] CKAN is in AUR even though archlinux doesn't do debs either [01:52:33] Yes I should have said package, but the important part is it is *supposed* to work across all distributions with snap support [01:52:35] lol, wanted to see how high my biplane can go, thing got to 7.1k before running out of fuel [01:53:14] I'm still not quite sure what that means, you can use any package manager on any distribution, even aptitude (debs) [01:54:08] AUR is kinda big, with a very active and tech-friendly community. It's good that they have CKAN in their repos, but I'm not sure it's a standard that can be expected for several distros. Snaps, on the other hand, are getting fully supported by many distributions now, including widespread ones (Ubuntu, Solus for instance) [01:54:36] I cannot use debs, I cannot use aptitude either [01:55:21] AUR is a repo, pacman is the equivalent of "snap", and debs = aptitude, which you can install and use, it's just probably not well supported with your distro as far as repositories go [01:55:35] what distro are you using? [01:56:50] As a application maintainer, if you provide a snap, then your snap is compatible with several distribution that normally use different packaging systems. If you provide regular packages, you have to do that for several types of packages. It's just more work and less coverage (as long as snaps are supported, but they are gaining a lot of popularity now) [01:57:18] snap just sounds like another package, I don't see how that's different than dropping a tarball [01:57:43] Hum, as far as I understand it, pacman is not the equivalent of snaps, nor is aptitude. They are no designed to be agnostic, snaps are, plus the confinement feature [01:58:33] I'm looking at snap now, it's not really a desirable method of distributing ALL your packages [01:58:42] Well, you package one thing that eventually works on different distributions, instead of packaging for different distributions and their specificities (like their base package system) [01:58:53] also, snaps would be a total nightmare if your kernel is patched for Meltdown [01:59:09] it's a squashFS jail that has the app inside it [01:59:40] I disagree :/ [01:59:41] which means everything the snapped app does is going to be in userspace and have to be verified on the backend in Meltdown patched kernels [02:00:40] snap is more like docker than anything else. You don't install every single app your OS needs in docker, at least most people don't [02:01:26] But that is not the point, no, snapd is not intended as a replacement for everything. Quite the opposite, it's intended as a bridge between distributions that are built on different foundations [02:01:50] I'm looking at it right now, I see what its intended as [02:01:58] it's for encapsulation, much like docker [02:02:07] which will not play well with Meltdown patched kernels as I said [02:02:22] there's a reason so many web services have been performing poorly this week [02:02:54] And typically, for applications like CKAN that are mainly distributed on github rather than in official repositories, and that are compiled as .exe/.deb/macos/whatever, a snap would make it easier for just every Linux user whose distribution supports snaps (they are increasing in number), since having CKAN in every package system is never going to happen [02:03:24] any way, I don't think CKAN is going to package as a snap, it'll just be the usual source [02:03:44] CKAN is in AUR because someone has written a make script to compile it [02:05:27] and it's not a matter of distros supporting snap, snap is encapsulation and gets installed as an application, which is where your universal idea is coming from [02:05:44] I doubt they will either, but I wish they'd consider it. [02:05:58] snap has a lot of parallels to docker, but I don't think a small squashfs container is really going to dethrone docker [02:06:06] Considering that .deb *is* a solution that covers all Linux users is just wrong [02:06:31] debs are not tarballs, if someone wants to support all linux users they distribute tarballs [02:06:55] repo maintainers then can elect to put those tarballs in, or users can compile themselves [02:07:10] Or snaps for the compatibility + auto-update features [02:07:30] compatibility? if you compile it's already compatible [02:07:46] and most people prefer to get their apps from their repos [02:07:52] But, that is a big if, and it depends on third party [02:07:53] if they're not keen on compiling [02:08:14] eh whatever, believe what you want [02:08:39] I'm not fighting, don't get me wrong [02:09:09] you're also not really acknowledging that apps are already universal if they're in the FOSS space [02:09:13] But the premises of your disbelief are not all correct, as a Solus user I can install snaps from my native/default application manager [02:09:29] as a Solus user you could install tarballs too [02:09:42] without having to encapsulate in a squashfs container [02:10:02] But they don't auto-update. [02:10:26] snaps aren't going to autoupdate unless they are running a daemon on your machine [02:10:53] I mean, just because there are ways to run CKAN doesn't mean that I cannot question about snapd, there is a reason why they are getting supported by big distributions. And I can acknowledge that applications are already universal in some way if in the FOSS space, that was just not my point. [02:10:53] sup Mod9000 [02:11:54] snap is no different than aptitude in the respect you're talking about it though, just another form of packaging to support, only instead of targeting a specific distro it's targeting a smaller subset of users who actually want snap on their system [02:12:07] FOSS maintainers are more likely to package something like that in docker [02:12:13] I don't know what is the plan for Ubuntu, but for my distribution the plan is to have snaps alongside the eopkg from the repos all available from the software manager, updates will be transparent to the user [02:12:15] if they're going to go through the trouble [02:15:08] I don't know, .deb is Ubuntu variants and Linux Mint, and they support snaps. So if you support snaps because you want to cover these people + others, I suppose you can provide snaps instead and I'm not sure you would face riots [02:15:33] But anyway, I was just asking, I totally understand that it's not an obvious answer or decision and I agree that you raised valid points [02:15:40] .deb is aptitude which is the package manager debian variants tend to use yes [02:15:44] I just want to know if they have plans for it, never know. [02:16:16] Sorry yes, forgot about Debian for some [reason], which is quite stupid indeed. :D [02:17:18] you have to remember there are a lot of Linux users out there who do not use "newbie friendly" distributions, and I'd wager they make up the bulk of Linux users [02:17:44] I don't even have a software manager, I just have pacman, I compile everything not available on the official repo from source [02:18:22] and docker is king when it comes to encapsulated applications [02:19:16] To be honest I do not have a good knowledge of docker, thought it was primarily intended for servers [02:20:19] but back to my earlier point, with the recent Meltdown situation, anything running in encapsulation is going to perform poorly compared to what it would have 2 weeks ago [02:20:39] because the kernel patches they put out to address the vulnerability substantially increase the overhead on userspace applications [02:20:44] *Spectre would be more relevant to mention [02:20:51] as it's why it will perform poorly on ANYTHING [02:20:53] Meltdown/Spectre [02:21:12] one is fixable, the other is just detectable, but you are correct [02:21:49] the fix for meltdown is also extremely important mitigation for spectre, which is why everything is going to be slow [02:21:58] (since the only things unaffected are those that were slow to begin with) [02:23:35] seems like encapsulating apps in squashfs would be more memory intensive too, doesn't squashfs emulate a fixed size filesystem? [02:24:15] I know that's how bootloaders like grub mount floppy and CD images to boot off of USB drives etc. [02:27:20] Actually I just found that somewhere in the CKAN wiki: You don't have to worry about platforms: CKAN is built using Mono, so it will work the same on Windows, Mac or Linux. Even though it's a .exe file, it will still work, thanks to Mono! [02:29:22] So the .deb file might just be a nice envelope to run "mono ckan.exe" :< [02:30:32] except it doesn't run the same on all platforms [02:36:20] ve2dmn I'm testing your basic launch script now :P [02:56:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:01:30] where's mp4? [03:11:16] Oh noes, the spam bots are back. [03:11:21] Take shelter. [03:11:29] WHAT? [03:11:38] sorry, caps was on from precision mode [03:12:01] You haven't seen these spam bots in the last few weeks? They've been on several of my chans, really annoying [03:16:21] the racist ones? freenode have been fighting those for while [03:16:39] they are getting much faster on k0lining the attackers though [03:16:55] Yeah Rolf [03:17:31] never seen any on esper but then this is only major channel im in. [03:18:29] Oh, I thought I did but maybe I mixed it with another server as I'm pretty sure it was not only on freenode for me [03:18:35] But maybe not here, you might be right [03:19:07] if they're here then you're reporting them in the wrong channel :P [03:19:09] Anyway they indeed seem to spread much less than earlier, they've be wiped from where I saw them a few min ago and I haven't seen others yet [03:32:33] madmerlyn: did the scrip work? [03:32:51] I was in front of the TV watching a Megaman relay race live [03:32:54] eh.. at my extremely early point in the tree, mostly? :P [03:33:15] I'm still doing mostly sounding rockets, don't even have an SAS probe for manual maneuvers after the script ends heh [03:33:38] new career? [03:33:46] yep, doing OPM [03:34:16] except since I'm doing CTT and installed the JX2 antenna I took the science modifier and antenna patches out of OPM [03:34:25] yeah, I never got to Eeloo, so OPM is not in my priorities [03:34:30] OPM apparently nerfs the crap out of science in the inner system heh [03:34:47] Do you have Scansat? [03:35:12] no but I might install it before I get anything in space [03:35:22] so far I've only done a couple suborbital hops [03:35:41] btw, my own rendez-vous script is nearly finished... except for the final docking part [03:36:13] your launch4 script, doesn't seem to be getting me very much horizontal velocity before it terminates [03:36:14] I like the Scansat Biome and elevation maps (Along with the few contracts it gives) [03:36:33] ...that script is getting old at this point :D [03:36:51] The file date says 2016 [03:37:18] I should just erase it, since I don't use it [03:37:32] oh I see your launchwithparameters script now [03:38:37] it uses a simple formula to set the pitch [03:39:02] I sugest you tweak it to your liking [03:40:36] I used 2 formulas, one based on speed and the other n altitude [03:40:39] did you see the ULA launch today btw? [03:40:52] that rocket was on fire :P [03:41:21] no, I was watching agdq most of the day [03:41:58] apparently the Delta IVs are famous for setting themselves on fire, but this one was pretty bad [03:42:09] it was super charred by the time it got off the pad heh [03:42:46] what, the paint caught fire? [03:43:05] the whole rocket practically up to the fairing was charred, yeah [03:43:49] pic? vid? [03:43:50] I looked up pictures and apparently that's normal, though it's usually much less severe [03:45:13] https://youtu.be/NwLWNXHL7D4?t=69 [03:45:13] YouTube - Delta IV NROL-47 Launch Highlights [03:45:18] btw, you made me look at my script and I probably need to chnage the formulas [03:46:39] that video is way better than the stream was too [03:46:50] stream it was just a dot in the sky 90% of the time [03:53:29] well... my rendez-vous script v0.1 is done. [03:54:03] What I should do is change all my script to add a lot of comments everywhere and make everything more clean... [03:54:16] ...and then use 'compile' in the boot scripts [03:56:21] Then I can start working on a docking script [03:58:17] anyone familiar with M=1? [04:06:09] I'm going to wager a 'no'... c_C [04:11:10] JCB: ? [04:11:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:33:00] ve2dmn M=1 is what they called when gemini launched to directly meet with the docking target prior to completion of a single orbit [05:01:34] Took a bit to get this huge thing to fly. https://gyazo.com/858e0b85bc94886fa8281e8d48bbf5c5 Still not done, takeoff weight is 208 tons [05:02:51] what was causing problems.. just weight alone? [05:04:45] ISS Urine Tank Level: 54% [05:06:31] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwAp19xZDE <-- TMR looking great! [05:06:31] YouTube - 173/714 Top Gun - NESMania [05:06:37] Yeah [05:06:50] specifically thrust. [05:07:18] Draconiator: now make it fly to space [05:08:36] Heh [05:10:56] And now apparently I have a whole other issue. Not destroying the runway on takeoff. [05:37:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:19:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:19:52] "Bring a class E asteroid into an orbit around Moho" yeah I think not, I really do [07:20:37] lol [07:30:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:07:48] oren: bonus point for real density patch installed [10:05:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:24:26] hi [10:24:36] Hello, Mod9000 [10:42:06] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:52:58] there was nothing about 1.4 in the dev notes [11:11:17] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:17:40] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1530128773/lolistraw-by-loliware [11:23:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:44:59] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:44:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:52:23] hello all [11:52:29] Hi! [11:52:36] interesting question... [11:52:46] what year do all the KSP planets align? [11:52:56] they must align eventually... [11:55:05] has anyone here been to moho? [11:55:13] I think some of them are in resonance, that is they might not align at all [11:55:30] Also, I am sure many people have been to Moho, including me [11:55:37] Though mine was a rather fun story [11:55:49] I "have been" to Moho [11:56:49] ok great. it took me around 3700ms d/v to get a capture from encounter with a reasonably efficient phase angle, i saw on YT someone get one with 2900ms, no idea how to achieve this? [11:57:40] idk if the devs changed things with updates maybe it was a couple year old the video, but i get captures in the high 3000's. [12:01:51] It highly depends on what exact launch window you use for your transfer, as Moho's orbit is highly elliptic [12:02:13] Consider using Alexmun's Launch Window planner, which you may find very easily by Googling [12:02:30] apparently, styrofoam/acetone mixture works for waterproofing crap [12:17:42] thanks Aplayer [12:18:08] i currently use the alarm one to set alarms for transfer windows [12:19:54] also, not going to do this but is it possible to make up a new kerbal in the persistent file by simply writing a new kerbal in the roster like how all the others are written? [12:22:20] you can open the cheap menu and there is a thing to create kerbs [12:22:33] cheat* [12:31:22] ok thanks, wasn't going to but just curious [12:31:58] does anyone know how to make a completed contract active again in persistent file? [12:32:02] or another way? [12:32:05] hehe the cheap menu [12:32:10] :P [12:32:36] it is actually free. think of it if opening menus had some cost [12:32:42] I think completed contracts are deleted [12:33:18] uh internet [12:34:46] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE0aCaSeuII [12:34:46] YouTube - KSPSBC: A Steel Battalion controller mod for Kerbal Space Program [12:40:13] https://78.media.tumblr.com/5592cab36f9b528d8879001afc5a67da/tumblr_p2g8v5Y7JV1qh66wqo9_540.jpg [12:40:18] I want at least as many [12:42:49] https://78.media.tumblr.com/b8d0d656c8bf658629d788d57de095cd/tumblr_inline_oftwffX3YQ1t6hq0w_540.jpg [12:42:59] porg dog? [12:43:07] ball corgi [12:43:10] but yeah I guess [13:19:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:27:07] hi replicants [13:27:32] i swear i came across a mod that alllowed editing of the recovery rates/amounts, but now i've lost it. [13:34:34] not to worry Mod9000, i think the factor can be edited in sarbian's barn kit [13:35:11] bots dont worry [13:35:35] how do you know [13:38:26] Action: Oneiros tickles Mod9000 [13:42:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:42:52] at least someone pays attention to him occasionally [13:46:29] I finally made the blade of the letter opener that I had to make for someone [14:00:55] are there letter in this day? [14:01:18] idk [14:02:06] this thing isn't as sharp as I want [14:02:13] but probably too sharp for what it is [14:02:26] and extra pointy, alredy cut myself with it [14:06:26] also I cut the blade out of a circular saw blade so this steel is super hard [14:08:36] still no date on the falcon heavy [14:11:43] no place for a restaurant table next to the tesla car :) [14:12:08] https://78.media.tumblr.com/119381779a3b2fba4804a70860acf855/tumblr_p0ag1kByNo1ue7y2fo1_400.gif [14:13:02] nice counterattack [14:13:53] if only the allies could have done that in 1939 [14:14:55] well some dudes got on a postla aircraft and threw 50kg bombs on berlin but that was to say "screw you" [14:15:27] lol wat [14:15:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farman_F.220 [14:17:55] nice link, ty [14:18:13] <3 aviation history, especially from that era [14:20:24] So, I've been looking at a real bright, strobing LED for a while and now I have a headache [14:20:39] Note to self: Don't look at bright, strobing LEDs for whiles [14:22:05] Generally good advice. [14:23:03] hmm... rovers'n'rockets... [14:30:05] (This was a PWM test, but apparently Arduinos don't support delays < 1 ms, so it sometimes went down to 30 or 20 Hz, and Wikipedia says 20 Hz is a usual boundary to cause dizziness in people [14:30:08] ) [14:30:17] Anyway, lesson learned [14:30:42] wut [14:31:48] Yes [14:32:45] k [14:35:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_vertigo [14:44:43] ugh.. new years came with massive headache for me. [14:45:09] 1 ms would sound reasonable for a pc. an arduino like device should be able to do more [14:45:13] or rather less [14:48:36] Also, ever tried to find a mod that causes problems using the "delete half" method and deleted the Squad folder? [14:49:50] ive never attempted this method. it sounds dubious [14:51:12] I'm dubbing my first 1.25m sized sounding rocket (which theoretically should go to the Mun) SR3-MX1 'Munshot' [14:51:32] 3rd gen Sounder, Moon eXplorer 1 [14:51:56] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:52:57] ... finally decided to get latest ksp update... ouch, game now $40 for new buyers [14:53:12] you didn't own it before? [14:54:19] I've had it since 0.19 [14:55:48] I caught someone saying they'd have bought it but price was too much for them.. when I paid, it was good deal from Squad themselves. I figured the price went up, didn't know how much though [14:56:17] it's always been $40 AFAIK but is frequently on sale [14:56:33] well post 1.0 [14:57:03] I bought it back in 2014.. $27 [15:01:04] https://steamdb.info/app/220200/ [15:02:39] ya but, didn't buy on steam.. got it from Squad. [15:02:44] interesting though [15:03:55] 40 bucks? what a joke. [15:04:36] at least some suckers are still playing it. [15:04:40] Yeah 40USD. Welcome to May 2015 [15:05:13] yeah, and they have made a few additions since then [15:05:29] more than most greenlit indies would do [15:06:08] I think I pay a good price fro 1600h of gaming [15:06:26] ok ya [15:06:49] Although, TF2 is probably is better ratio since it's 0 [15:07:02] i struggle to play much without getting annoyed at the underdevelopment and wanting to mod it [15:07:18] is kw rocketry still usable? [15:07:20] Frequently goes on sale on steam too [15:07:20] yeah, ive put thousands of hr into dota2 [15:07:26] also free [15:07:43] Kerbal hats! [15:07:52] and well developed [15:07:53] Action: TheKosmonaut sells for 1,500 on the steam mkt [15:07:57] :D [15:08:05] pay less and get a better game [15:08:15] Apples and oranges [15:08:16] idk why i even bother with this [15:08:21] or, I should say: {:D [15:08:34] wish i could just move on with my life lol [15:08:43] i paid... $15 for ksp, in 2012 [15:08:56] nice [15:09:07] Instead you get antsy on an IRC channel. This is the wise choice. [15:09:23] yeah honestly if you're sick of a game go do something else [15:09:27] It's the choice 90% of us make anyway [15:09:34] im not antsy lol. criticism is fair [15:09:38] TheKosmonaut: it's better then me. I just rant about the weather and Data formats [15:09:45] don't hang around that game's community moaning about how sick of it you are [15:09:49] I go on and off on it TBH. Sometimes I just go for months without playing [15:10:04] But I do love RO and all that sweet misery [15:10:17] I didn't mind paying what I did... I just don't have steam.. no idea how many hours played, though since its basically the only 'major' program on my system currently c_C; [15:10:21] ya. i didnt play for a couple of years. [15:11:10] btw, KSP is 39,99� [15:11:21] mods are what makes this game [15:11:21] I've made a few friends because of KSP, so I am quite satisfied. But I got it back at .15 or .16 [15:11:26] that is... a bit higher then $40 [15:11:34] Iirc it was a bit cheaper then [15:11:41] re development progress i feel like ksp kinda ended up in a minecraft place [15:12:02] Oneiros: mods are what make me play most games on the PC and not on a Console [15:12:08] where they fleshed out all the original vision and then just kinda wandered around trying to add random stuff [15:12:25] yeah. do u think this console release will have much appeal? [15:12:30] I cannot play Elder Scroll games on a Console. I feel like it's always missing something [15:12:35] im not sure. ksp isnt much of a console game. [15:12:53] I'd totally get it on switch [15:12:58] ^ [15:12:59] Not on XB/PS4 Though [15:13:00] ya. modded skyrim was so good. [15:13:22] I would have wanted KSP on WiiU with touch controls on a the pad [15:13:23] And there's precedent for moddable console games now, at least with Bethesda games [15:13:32] But I don't think that'll work for KSP [15:13:46] consol.... flip side, not having to lug a whole pc system around when visit a friend's [15:14:05] >Friends [15:14:16] Who needs that? You can download friends now. [15:14:24] That implies you have friends [15:14:27] haha [15:14:29] no.. I'm not talking about the little people in your phone [15:14:46] you know... people used to go visiting other people.. actual physical people :P [15:14:48] There's an app for that [15:14:52] Mod9000 is my friend [15:15:14] JCB: that's a myth. Like when my grandpa said he used to play stickball [15:15:14] all the movies predicted it [15:15:17] ugh... we'll evolve to be glued to the chair, and the internet... way we currently go at it [15:15:28] Ridiculous. Like you would have a physical ball. [15:15:35] Yeah right Gramps [15:15:42] lol [15:16:08] I've been glued to BOTW for the last couple of weeks. It's supposed good [15:16:09] a bit of exercise is healthy [15:16:22] well... I'm stuck inside my house. Might as well test my new Rendez-vous script [15:16:31] ... some day we'll end up like those people in the movie Wal' [15:16:32] Oneiros: VR and a treadmill. Check mate. [15:16:35] wal'e.. or whatever [15:16:41] Wall-E [15:16:47] yes. do you have that? [15:16:52] 10 years ago now. [15:17:00] TheKosmonaut: did you finish the main quest? [15:17:08] Oneiros: nah. Japanese homes don't lend themselves to VR [15:17:22] TheKosmonaut: https://www.fangamer.com/products/banquet-of-the-wild [15:17:24] VR centers... [15:17:33] i had a gaming rig all ready for the rift, but the release price was over my budget [15:17:38] ve2dmn: I defeated 3 DBs and am going around a weird maze in some tundra [15:17:39] like who's got the money to build a bedroom size space to a VR unit these days? [15:17:48] dk2 was fun to play with tho [15:18:09] oh true, not much space there [15:18:26] TheKosmonaut: There's a small price when you find all shrines btw [15:18:44] my area... seems like you gotta pay $5mil for just a closet space [15:19:10] JCB: if I just get rid of my kids... Then I can truly have a Vr space [15:19:26] In Tokyo though we have a VR arcade now. I dunno if I wanna go see that. [15:19:31] I own a 1000sq feet Condo [15:19:41] TheKosmonaut: at least you have kids.. [15:19:42] everyone will have VR soon [15:19:44] It's got that Mario kart VR that's always at the front page of Reddit/imgur [15:20:03] I have an empty bedroom I could turn into VR Room [15:20:40] Honestly it's overpriced nonsense for the time being. Of all the VR games I've seen maybe 2 of them look interesting [15:20:45] friend wants to try out the model train route... I think its kind of cool [15:21:05] TheKosmonaut: I really liked SpacePirate Training Simulator [15:21:10] Though FO:VR looks fun [15:21:15] VR would be neat.... though I hear people get headaches from it after a bit [15:21:29] depends on the person JCB [15:21:34] and also what you're doing in it [15:21:53] i used to like watching the NBA in it, could do that for hours [15:21:55] phone+goggle holder thing [15:22:17] also depends i guess on which model u use, yeah [15:22:19] I woudl love flight sim'ing with VR [15:23:27] I tried the HTC vive [15:24:31] parents got me a phone... a bit of a fail... first sim card holder, a pin was broken. Then phone gets stuck in boot loop. I just pulled battery and gave up on it [15:24:35] u like it? [15:24:40] i havent tried it [15:24:53] It's cool. [15:25:05] they figured, buy me a smart phone for camera drone... eh.. wifi for drones suck [15:25:07] But really, the games are what makes or breaks VR [15:25:11] i have two gear VR's and used to have the oculus developer headset (dk2) [15:25:21] ya [15:25:35] The headset are similar enough [15:25:39] games will take time. there are a lot of teething problems to overcome [15:25:59] ... ksp on the phone.. umm.. [15:26:03] U cant just run around in an FPS game in VR. it makes most people sick. [15:26:21] eh well.. maybe, sorta already come along way so far [15:26:55] the best use right now is for adult entertainment [15:27:16] huge improvements there [15:27:16] I'd rather keep my phone... a phone with texting [15:27:47] everyone who I seen so far in my line of work with big screen phones, all screens busted [15:28:47] JCB: I've never cracked a screen, yet I see sooo many cracked iPhones on the subway [15:29:00] I think people don't realise the actual value of the item [15:29:40] I just stick to a flip phone... smaller, I can place into a pouch to protect it. [15:30:05]