[00:29:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:21:42] https://i.gyazo.com/2ec7669292fd08ecd8ff40c9729387f0.png - My Low Gravity Rover seems to work perfectly! [02:33:19] I kind of landed wrong and got sent flying though...oops [02:36:58] And if you go too fast the camera thinks I'm escaping...which is really distracting lol [03:12:50] oops, indeed. [03:17:12] ok... I need to replace my current Nvidia GTX 950 video with something... better, but still cheap [03:18:18] Well, maple syrup is better; and very cheap per pound compared to current graphics cards. [03:18:36] true [03:18:57] But the real issue is my current 'TVPC' video card: an old GTX 650 [03:19:22] Also... here's a replacement for your GTX 950 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LxbJQH7nI8 [03:19:23] YouTube - Nvidia Geforce TITAN Z Reveal Trailer The TITAN Z Announcement Trailer [03:19:36] Guess, I'll try Steam Streaming in the mean time [03:19:37] it's freeeeee [03:23:44] bah... I'll check back in 6 months I guess [03:50:16] I've got a GT610, thinking of upgrading to a GT1030 [03:57:09] ahoy [03:58:11] and that's when i inserted the bologna into the mailslot with a squirt of mayonase and a little beef gravy. [04:48:04] Please don't die https://twitter.com/MarsRovers/status/1006736459754176513 [04:48:04] <MarsRovers> The Martian dust storm blotting out the sun above Opportunity has continued to intensify. It blankets a quarter of& https://t.co/1xf18VW6yR [04:48:39] this may be the end of that rover [05:11:48] ISS Urine Tank Level: 9% (LOS) [05:13:52] Due to an extreme amount of dust over Perseverance Valley, mission engineers believe it is unlikely the rover has enough sunlight to charge back up for at least the next several days. :( [05:14:31] but at least the curiosity high gain antenna is working again [05:18:14] see [05:18:56] thats why elon follows MarsCuriosity and not MarsRovers [05:19:08] :( [05:19:36] dont forget the little robots [05:30:23] cringe: Which rover is this? [05:35:49] https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7155 [10:29:46] my housing company literally sent me a letter saying "for privacy reasons we will not keep a copy of your key anymore. note however that we may kick down your door in an emergency" [10:30:41] is there a japanese version of the GDPR? [10:31:04] there probably should be [10:32:34] note that the pint of the GDPR isn't actually to forbid the use of private data, but you have to be upfront about how you use it [10:32:40] *point [10:38:40] GlassYuri: funny. When I moved here I asked if the housing company keeps a copy of my key. They declined, too much trouble. Like if something is missing from my appartment the first question would be: Who has keys to it. So they have and then the police would tear their offices apart... [10:39:05] *If they'd have [10:39:38] I didn't even know they had the keys, but then again I didn't read most of the contract [10:39:56] it's normal for the landlord to keep an extra copy in case you lock yourself out [10:40:41] I know that I get kicked out if I'm two months late on payments or commit a crime, both of which I have miracuously managed to avoid so far [10:41:09] Well... my apartment door is massive. [10:41:12] Zarthus, I can't lock myself out unless I lose the key, door is open unless I lock it with a key [10:41:35] That doesn't mean you can't lose your key [10:43:07] my key is literally the only thing I haven't managed to lose yet [10:43:21] where do you keep it once you lock your door? [10:44:08] i've lost my key exactly once in all my lifetime, and it was on the way to the store literally downstairs to my traceback path was easy and i recovered it fast. [10:44:35] my backpack got swapped once which held my keys, but i don't consider it lost there [10:44:46] Zarthus, on a keychain, in my pocket [10:45:19] that's how i lost mine, fel lout as i grabbed my wallet. [10:45:36] yeah but it's linked to my pants [10:45:42] haven't lost those so far [10:45:58] nothing to link it to when you're wearing shorts. [10:47:51] I don't think I have anything here that doesn't have belt loops [11:02:36] GlassYuri: Yo mama's so fat she's wearing the asteroid belt. [11:13:04] darsie: a bit inappropriate, don't you think? [11:15:26] It was inappropriate to say that was inappropriate ;) [11:28:54] Mat2ch: no, it was fun. [11:33:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:38:01] Ah. Insults are funny. I see :P [11:44:13] It was a very grey zone [11:45:00] Like #808080 grey [11:45:04] has this world become so politically correct you can't even make a "yo mama" joke? man... [11:45:36] Not the world, but this channel which is supposed to be anyone-friendly [11:47:06] Also, this is very subjective, hence grey zone [12:03:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:08:12] APlayer: I'm sorry, but you seem to mistake "classy" for political correct. [12:08:57] yo mama jokes are funny, if done with friends. But if you've got a conversation and somebody just pops in, makes a not very funny joke, then it's just not appropriate [12:15:56] It's somewhere in between being decent and polite [12:21:44] Mat2ch: I'm sorry I upset you. GlassYuri, how do you feel about it? [12:22:19] I don't feel [12:22:24] I'm a cold killer robot [12:22:27] Heart of glass, eh? [12:22:34] fine [12:27:10] I was just joking, actually I wanted to throw something back at you but couldn't come up with anything and copying a joke from some site was too cheap for me [12:27:38] my nickname is half my previous nickname + half my japanized first name btw [12:31:36] I actually have another nickname which I really like but only works in japanese [12:32:29] I'm probably the only one who likes it but I don't care [12:57:06] I wanted to load my last game and flew a Duna mission, but picked #19. Didn't see #20 after #2. Ohh well, it just was a sentinel survey which gave me lots of money, science and reputation, all of which I don't really need. Hmm, reputation does affect what contracts I get, right? Maybe I'll fly the Duna mission again. [12:57:35] Some smarter numeric order would be nice. [13:10:22] I was thinking about someone commenting yesterday about 'Life finds a way... except in the heart of stars' [13:10:38] Life kind of depends on the hearts of stars to begin with [13:28:31] speed of light question- lets say you have a 1km diameter disk travelling just under the speed of light- you are in the middle of the disk on the side look away from your direction of travel. By the time the light from the edge of the disk reaches the center of the disk- lets say you travelled x meters.. like 10? [13:29:49] does that mean there is a something like a light vacuum in the area you are? [13:32:26] Not sure I understand the question, sketch it out? [13:36:49] Epi: the only constant is the speed of light. You don't realise it, but your disk is not round anymore to an outside observer. [13:37:10] Time and space changes so that the speed of light is constant [13:40:03] ^ [13:41:21] I suppose red/blue shifting would result in anisotropies in blackbody emission from the disk, or CMB, depending on choice of reference frame. [13:43:03] getting my mspaint on [13:43:17] i'm thinking maybe to you, the disk looks like it's bending [13:45:58] It can even break simultanity [13:46:28] To you the 2 event happens at the same time, but to an outside observer, they happened at different times [13:46:55] I try to understand it and it melts my brain sometimes [13:47:21] "the universe is not obligated to make sense to you" [13:48:07] ve2dmn: But only if they are at different locations, right? The time of birth can't be different for the mother and the baby? [13:48:13] sorry the quote is "The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson [13:48:31] the relativity is confusing sometimes, maybe the disk can be 1000's of km in diameter so relativity does not affect it [13:48:35] darsie: only to different observer travelling at different speeds [13:48:52] ok [13:49:31] But, to both it's simultaneously. Guess because it's really only one event, not two. [13:50:25] I try to understand it and it melts my brain sometimes <-- well, it's not that tricky. you just have to lose the idea that because you OBSERVE them happening at the same time, they don't necessarily do happen at the same time. [13:50:31] yes. The example I saw had to do with a train going through a tunnel [13:50:52] it's like those perspective illusions [13:51:07] Eddi|zuHause: I'm trying to make a mental model, but I first have to unlearn what I have learned and it,s hard [13:51:08] because you only see a 2D representation of the 3D object [13:51:15] ve2dmn: Like the tip goes out at the same time as the tail goes in? [13:51:30] let me find the youtube video [13:51:56] I've seen a ladder can fit in a barn smaller than it if it travels fast enough. [13:52:03] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGsbBw1I0Rg [13:52:03] YouTube - Relativity Paradox - Sixty Symbols [13:52:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [13:52:34] https://i.imgur.com/jm0XTcb.png how about this- so ignoring relativity, we can say the disk is reaaallly wide [13:52:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVelzyaAF0 [13:52:50] YouTube - 3d Optical Perspective Illusion [13:53:04] " Trains, tunnels, muons and giant guillotines - strange things happen when you travel close to the speed of light. " [13:54:51] because your brain got trained with the idea of "simultaneous", it has trouble bending to the idea that from a different perspective it doesn't happen simultaneous [13:55:13] so two things can only happen simultaneously if they also happen in the same place [13:56:06] Eddi|zuHause: I get it from a logical perspective, but since I have not internalise the concept completely I can't explain it to someone else without having to check the math or a reference all the time [13:56:43] that gets easier once you understand quantum mechanics :p [13:56:52] I don't [13:57:12] (disclaimer: nobody understands quantum mechanics) [13:58:08] I can explain the logic gates in a CPU, why a Gray Code is better or why SELinux is a Good Thing(tm), but physics is not my domain [13:58:50] selinux is never a good thing :) [13:59:27] SElinux is only bad if you don't master it [13:59:50] I never said it was an easy thing :P [14:00:46] So I guess with the disk thingy I posted above- you'll see shifted from the things you're travelling away from, but not be able to see what you're directly passing [14:04:02] Epi: to a particle approaching earth near the speed of light, the earth looks basically flat [14:05:43] going back to the optical illusion analogy: it's like you're using a wide angle lense, that compresses depth [14:08:56] The disk will seem normal to anyone on it, but distorted to someone "at rest" relative to it. [14:14:42] Epi: the world will be distorted (to you on the disk) and the disk will be distorted to someone at rest. [14:15:30] It will be VERY distorted to an outside observer going at the 0.99c in a orthogonal angle to your own speed [14:15:46] that's what always confused me about special relativity: there seems to be some dependency on who is moving and who is at "rest", while that should be irrelevant [14:16:32] like in the twin paradox [14:16:37] Eddi|zuHause: That is the bit that melts my brain, yes [14:17:53] i don't think anyone could ever resolve that for me in a satisfactory way [14:19:13] i was told the twin paradox "breaks" because you need someone that ACCELERATES from rest to near-speed of light, and then accelerate the other way. and that can only work within general relativity [14:20:09] Singualrities also melts my brain [14:20:56] dimension 0? [14:21:18] that's because they are always depicted so simplified [14:21:43] while the actual mechanics is terribly complicated and can only make sense in this complicatedness [14:22:42] And if the proton decays does this means that Neutron will decay too? [14:23:46] maybe try to wrap your mind around mathematical singularities first :p [14:23:51] What will happen to Neutron stars in 10^25 years? [14:23:57] as in: f(z)=1/z on the complex plane [14:26:45] Neutron stars contain some protons, so yes (and of course, free neutrons have a lifetime of ~900 s). Also, minimum proton lifetime is ~10^33 years? [14:28:21] just the concept of 10^25 vs 10^33 years is a thing human brains cannot actually fathom [14:28:41] Eddi|zuHause: I did that with just 1 million vs 1 billion [14:28:54] Can you guess how long 1 million seconds is? [14:29:17] i think someone asked this question before [14:29:22] me [14:29:37] as in like "last year" [14:29:45] We have trouble grasping that... imagine 10^25 [14:29:48] or, 1 million seconds ago :p [14:30:10] If I tell you you have 1 millions seconds to live, should you worry? [14:31:03] Yes [14:31:04] probably [14:31:15] ;wa 1 million seconds in years [14:31:17] Eddi|zuHause: convert 1000000 seconds to years: 0.03171 years [14:31:26] try days [14:31:41] There are À"10^7 seconds in a year. [14:32:43] ;wa 1 million seconds in days [14:32:44] ve2dmn: convert 1000000 seconds to days: 11.57 days [14:32:53] ;wa pi*(10^7 seconds)/(1 year) [14:32:54] Eddi|zuHause: pi×(10^7 seconds)/(1 year): 0.9962 [14:33:08] now, how long do you think 1 billion seconds is? [14:33:12] close enough i guess :p [14:33:28] Good chunk of a lifetime. [14:33:50] ve2dmn: "billion" works differently in my brain than yours [14:33:58] probably [14:34:01] millard [14:34:10] milliard* [14:34:14] I'm young enough that being told I have a billion seconds to live would worry me. [14:34:26] ;wa 1e9 s to years [14:34:27] UmbralRaptop: convert 1×10^9 seconds to years: 31.71 years [14:35:09] well if "1 million seconds" is "10 days" (ish), then "1 milliard seconds" is obviously 10000 days [14:35:40] yes... but when people try to guess, even with the prior knowledge, they often get it wrong [14:35:45] so with 3 years being 1000 days, that makes it 30 years [14:36:27] it also doesn't work with money... [14:36:51] like "this 20-year long project to build a train station costs 4Mrd ¬" [14:37:05] "if you had a millions penny, how big would it be" if often asked [14:37:11] "it's delayed by 2 years, and now costs 6Mrd ¬" [14:37:16] Action: darsie is 1.5 Gs old. [14:38:47] and it's completely over once stacking interest rates and inflation come into play [14:39:24] ve2dmn: I'm picturing a pile that could fit on a large desk if stacked carefully, though weight might be an issue. [14:39:58] like politicians going "how can they demand minimum wage of 10$/h? i worked for 2$/h as a teenager and that was fine" [14:40:39] That is why we can't have nice things :( [14:41:07] When I was a kid a tramway ticket was 3.5 ATS. Now it's 2.5 EUR. [14:41:23] ATS? [14:41:28] Austrian Schilling [14:41:42] what's the exchange rate? 12:1? [14:41:42] Ah [14:41:47] 14:1 or so [14:41:53] UmbralRaptop: starting with the idea that 1 penny is at least 1gram.... well do the math how much weigh is 1 megagram? [14:42:09] 1 tonne [14:42:13] bravo [14:42:27] that's easier for metric units :p [14:42:30] But I memorized that because KSP+KER+MJ [14:42:43] Eddi|zuHause: so much yes [14:44:07] now imagine 4Mrd¬ in 10¬ bills? [14:44:47] If you speak English I suggest you use billion instead of Miliarde. [14:45:08] you can suggest that [14:45:14] obviously :) [14:45:18] but i don't have to listen to it :p [14:45:23] Heh [14:45:26] But you did :). [14:45:58] there is a difference between "hear" and "listen to" :p [14:46:11] or just do like do here: GigaDollars [14:46:44] min: milli inch [14:47:11] do they make GigaDollar bills? [14:47:16] No [14:47:38] Yes, in Zimbabwe :) [14:47:39] But the English media doesn't bother doing that. Only the french one does [14:47:40] hectodollar bills are a thing, though. [14:47:46] Well, they did. [14:48:03] I have a 1 trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe [14:48:08] i was wondering how the billion/milliard thing is handled in quebec [14:48:09] darsie: aaaaaaaaa! not mils! [14:48:21] Eddi|zuHause: it's badly handled [14:48:32] Well, that was a fast bounce. [14:49:24] well, other countries had hyperinflations in the past [14:49:26] And everything had to follow either one of , often, 3 different standards [14:50:12] Like dates. The world follows either YYYY-MM-DD, DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY. We do all 3 [14:50:16] I want a 100 trillion Zimbabwe dollar bill, but they are too expensive. [14:51:06] To the point where it's not written in text... like 08 MR 2018 [14:51:24] https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-milliarden-mark/k0 <-- plenty of high value german currency going around [14:52:12] And I'm (mostly) fluent in both Metric and Imperial, but not US customary units [14:52:21] because UK pint != Us pint [14:52:43] imperial is cancer [14:52:52] there's also the 'metric pint' [14:53:05] we use a "metric pound" here [14:53:05] "A pint is a pound the world around" is a blatant lie. [14:53:06] And that's just for beer [14:53:31] where 1 pound = 1/2 kg [14:53:39] ve2dmn: 355 ml, 500 ml, or something else? [14:54:21] 500ml... or 50cl in Europe [14:54:46] beer just comes in "large" and "small" here (well, outside of Okoberfest) [14:54:54] 355ml is the soft drink/soda/pop/fizz/coke cans [14:55:04] where it becomes huge? [14:55:04] where the exact values of "large" and "small" differ between regions [14:55:38] during the fest it's 'not large enough' and 'maybe large enough' ? [14:56:25] like in cologne, a "small" beer will probably be 0,2l, where in other regions it would be more like 0,3l [14:56:38] Starbucks 'small' latte is stupidly large. [14:56:54] US size are large to begin with [14:58:03] also, in cologne the beer probably has less alcohol concentration in it than elsewhere [14:58:27] Eddi|zuHause: what is considered 'low'? 8% ? [14:58:59] if you pick a random beer, i'd expect it to have like 5% [14:59:12] in cologne it might be half that [14:59:26] in czechia, double :p [14:59:31] ... what is wrong with them? [15:00:02] the cologne people? no clue [15:00:08] the czechs are probably fine :p [15:01:18] wikipedia alledges cologne beer has 4,8% [15:01:24] I need to tour Europe someday. [15:01:48] Try French Wine, Belgium fries, German beer, UK... hum... something [15:02:20] italian? [15:02:26] i think you can skip UK, it won't be in europe much longer :p [15:02:34] never was [15:02:41] they call europe the continent :) [15:02:53] UK curry? [15:02:57] hehe [15:03:06] go easy on the Palinka in hungary :p [15:03:08] Althego: and for the Americans, we are something refered to as 'overseas' [15:03:16] lol [15:03:32] "The other land" [15:03:34] Great Lakes, close enough. [15:03:41] I guess the great lakes *could* be [15:04:50] ve2dmn: to the americans, canada is this remote "far north" thing, while i would bet you considerable amount of money that you are more southern than me right now [15:05:36] Germany are the snow people (with beer), how did you not know? [15:05:56] I'm a swampgerman, thankyouverymuch [15:06:01] hehe [15:06:07] germans dont really see snow [15:06:10] heh [15:06:12] finnish people maybe [15:06:23] You don't even have winter [15:06:26] well, there used to be more snow in the 80s [15:06:36] even here, there was barely any snow [15:06:42] this winter [15:06:47] and not really much in the last decade [15:06:49] anyway, i'm around 51.5° north [15:07:40] Eddi|zuHause: I mean, I took a picture of the 50N marker because we were much more north then I had ever been [15:08:01] ;wa Juneau latitude [15:08:04] UmbralRaptop: Juneau, Alaska->latitude: 58° 22' 22"N [15:08:18] In that region, 99% of the tree are conifers [15:08:20] okay, not quite Alaska level north. [15:09:19] North-est I ever visited was 64° or so [15:09:29] well, the most northern place that i probably was is around 54.5°N [15:09:39] and there's a lot more north beyond that [15:09:58] like, that's the southernmost tip of denmark [15:10:54] https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.0011627,-68.7284702,3a,75y,9.09h,90.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFhIhUOHekaZaCzgx9q88qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 [15:11:06] hehe [15:11:08] the road s ign [15:11:42] Good luck finding an actual house within 10km of that sign (and no a summer place) [15:11:49] not* [15:12:30] actually, I think the nearest village must be 20-30km away [15:13:07] How is there Google Streetview in the middle of nowhere? [15:13:41] Don't ask me [15:13:47] they sent somebody there [15:13:56] there is streetview for places where you can get only onfoot [15:14:01] yes, the guy takes the camera [15:14:15] The nerest gas station to that place is about 20km... the next one is more then 100km [15:15:19] *shock* [15:15:35] It would take me close to 10h by car to get there from where I am [15:15:46] And I haven't left the province yet [15:16:24] Streetview stop at the Manic-5 Hydro-electric dam that is further north [15:16:41] it's easy to spot, you can see the reservoir FROM SPACE [15:17:01] it's that round thing further north [15:19:11] The only reason people live there is mining , wood or the electricty dams [15:19:57] or... being a retiree I suposse [15:20:15] ve2dmn: the geographic center of EU is around 50°N [15:20:49] 50% of the Canadian population is below the 49N [15:21:05] i haven't seen any hard data on the population center [15:21:09] they are also below average :) [15:21:15] Eddi|zuHause: Is that the average of its maximum latitudes? [15:21:51] most extreme* [15:22:18] darsie: i imagine they calculated the center points of each country, and then weighted those by the country area, to get a weighted average [15:22:33] darsie: but i assume there is some bureaucracy you can go through to get the actual method they used [15:22:55] o/ [15:22:59] they put a memorial place at that point [15:23:14] which they have to move every time a new country joins (or an old one leaves) [15:23:17] Why would bureaucrats calculate such a useless thing? [15:24:05] But the center change every time a country joins/leaves. [15:24:09] yes [15:24:14] Because the politicians asked them to? [15:25:04] https://www.google.de/maps/place/EU+Mittelpunkt/@50.1146811,9.2511682,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPINQPhdLKrztBH3Z9V3azLxXzm52jGUZsbIemP!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPINQPhdLKrztBH3Z9V3azLxXzm52jGUZsbIemP%3Dw203-h134-k-no!7i4512!8i3000!4m5!3m4!1s0x47bd304d9c7c09f1:0xf315213c0bee3b7d!8m2!3d50.1133876!4d9.2521875 [15:25:13] long url is long [15:26:45] Kerbin doesn't have tides. [15:27:08] neither does the flat earth (because water is flat and finds its level) [15:27:46] I don't understand that flat earthers don't seem to appreciate how lucky we are that the Earth isn't vertical [15:27:52] so what conspiracy do flat earthers think creates the tides then? [15:28:04] they keep silent about them [15:28:18] tide goes in, tideo goes out, you cant esplain that :) [15:28:23] ^ [15:28:35] They correlate with teh Moon. [15:28:48] and the sun [15:29:15] So, Google Earth supports some moons and planets, and also a street view like tour of the ISS... And man, that thing is a MESS [15:29:28] (And this is not a sneaky NASA acronym) [15:29:59] nowhere near what mir was towards the end [15:30:10] It has to be a mess: everything floats away all the time [15:30:10] How does it even work? There is stuff attached to every single surface [15:30:34] I mean, ISS is like 20 years old by now. It's been doing good as is [15:30:57] my house is also around 20 years old, and it's also a mess [15:31:06] Heh, there you go [15:31:18] Now imagine that your house would be in SPACE [15:31:24] therefore, gravity is a lie [15:31:58] it's all dipols and van der waals forces [15:32:07] Space stuff is supposed to be planned to the very Earth-reference frame 3D space coordinate where you're supposed to leave your screwdriver afloat while you grab the next screw [15:32:12] How do polar orbits work on a flat Earth? [15:32:35] they dont [15:32:37] darsie: Answer me that. How do orbits work on a flat Earth? [15:32:40] because space isnt real [15:32:46] rockets cant push against vacuum [15:32:49] and they hit the dome [15:32:56] Heh [15:33:08] iss is projected from spy planes [15:33:23] You'd think you'd notice 100tons of rocket falling back to earth [15:33:31] Or exploding [15:33:36] Or both [15:33:47] APlayer: That's easy :) https://cdn.disclose.tv/sites/default/files/styles/article_image/public/img/post/2018/03/03/flatearth.jpg?itok=jxM3v9k5 [15:34:14] note that sun needs to be a spotlight with changing shape [15:35:19] this whole thing is contradictory on so many sides... [15:35:21] I say we send the Flat earthers to colonize Venus [15:35:50] Like in 'the marching morons' [15:35:52] ve2dmn: death is just a theory [15:35:59] ve2dmn: How could you colonize a hole in the sky? [15:36:58] what i always wanted to ask a flat earther: "if gravity is 'just a theory', why don't you step outside this window?" [15:37:05] darsie: you send them there to gather samples to prove they are right? [15:37:38] https://www.google.ca/maps/space/iss/@29.5604733,-95.0855252,2a,90y,108.72h,101.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSEfknbwn4K4AAAQvxgbyJQ!2e0!7i10000!8i5000 [15:37:38] the worst is: there is no gravity, it is denisty [15:37:45] (and buooyancy) [15:37:51] Notice stray laptops on the ceiling [15:37:53] Sooo, talking of rockets (that are things that obviously don't work irl and KSP is just a globe earth propaganda game) https://imgur.com/a/sczWp4b [15:38:13] The sun and moon must have a very low density to float in the atmosphere. [15:38:29] there is no ceiling [15:38:35] just a ceiling cat [15:39:03] aren't we in the Matrix anyway? [15:39:09] probably [15:39:24] Let's hack out of it. [15:39:29] there must be more simulated realities than real ones [15:39:42] Elon will get us out. [15:39:46] ^ [15:39:54] Praise the son! [15:40:02] Elon is actualy the dude that built the simulation in the first place [15:40:19] Elon Musk is just a theory [15:42:39] I love when I shut the entire chat up... [15:43:05] I can jetpack from Mun to orbit. Has anyone ever landed by jetpack there? [15:44:04] I may have done it once [15:44:07] Not sure [15:44:20] k [15:44:34] Much easier on Minmus. never tried on the Mun [15:45:08] Yeah, you can get from Minmus down to Kerbin with a jetpcak. [15:45:21] IIRC [15:45:27] ahh, no. Too hot. [15:45:34] entry [15:45:49] Definitely landed and orbited Minmus by Jetpack [15:45:55] probably not too hot with a high enough periapsis [15:46:34] No, you need 3 jetpack fuel to decelerate enough so you don't burn up in Kerbin's atmosphere. [15:46:34] somehow my brain always reads "Minimus" [15:47:26] You could do it with an empty capsule in Kerbin orbit to refill the jetpack. [15:47:54] why is it not minimun? [15:48:00] how do you align your orbit with the capsule? [15:48:10] Eddi|zuHause: jetpack [15:48:34] Eddi|zuHause: you push the capsule around and land in it [15:48:35] Probably tricky without maneuver nodes. [15:48:43] also, do kerbals come with chutes nowadays? [15:48:57] Some. With 3 stars, but I've had ones with less stars. [15:49:11]