[00:02:42] anglish sounds very much like the language used by the Amish and Mennonite [00:08:37] where is my dead in the water comstar roku -.- [00:09:51] nye islad? [00:09:54] island? [00:10:05] bill nye the island guy [00:10:52] biden/degrasse tyson 2018 [00:15:38] well, time to launch another one [00:40:02] transitbiker: did you remember to put wings on the stage that ends up in orbit? [00:42:23] wings? [00:43:02] yeah [00:44:27] Supernovy: hyvää iltaa [00:44:38] tulitpa hyvään aikaan Ezko [00:45:23] you're not on the other channel anymore [00:46:37] why does it need wings? [00:47:13] i learned that from your stream [00:47:26] that wings at the top of the rocket are a good thing and help with stability [00:47:36] oh, that was an experiment [00:47:47] oh of course [00:47:55] what did you experiment? [00:47:56] this has a fairing at the top, would not work [00:48:05] with the wings [00:48:14] totally different concept [00:48:38] are you sure you can't add wings just below the fairing? [00:48:43] this isnt some test thing, i'm actually trying to launch this small fleet of comsats [00:49:05] i could, but it wouldnt help, it's not in the atmosphere long enough [00:49:17] the rocket with the wings wasn't either [00:49:24] since it had like 5 twr at launch [00:49:31] its a totally different design [00:49:40] but what did you test with the wings? [00:50:07] forward mounted controls? [00:50:21] i mean they didn't have any control surfaces [00:50:30] they were just the biggest stock wings [00:50:33] ya, it was for guiding only [00:50:50] what [00:50:57] guiding what [00:50:59] is there a point in harassing me about putting fins on the top? [00:51:10] what do you mean? [00:51:21] i just want to know [00:52:54] come on transitbiker i wanna know what you were experimenting [00:54:49] something keeps breaking this craft, i think it's the auto-strut hmm [00:55:16] hey guys [00:55:20] ahoy [00:55:25] would you mind if i revived the kerbalism mod [00:55:31] which seems to have not been updated for a while [00:55:37] not up to me [00:55:46] ik i was just wondering if anyone liked the mod [00:55:49] since shotgunninja seems to have gone MIA [00:55:50] you should probably ask the creator [00:55:53] ask the crappy new company that took over ksp [00:56:02] Ezko, the creator has gone MIA [00:56:08] oh dog [00:56:32] they haven't even used github since july [00:56:36] MIA? mining in the andes? :D [00:56:59] missing in action [00:57:00] but yeah [00:57:07] they haven't done anything in half a year [00:57:08] oh you mean that movie series? [00:57:11] or posted anything [00:57:12] at all [00:57:13] with chuck norris? [00:57:15] That's one way to go MIA [00:57:39] idk what happened to them [00:57:56] but i got kerbalism to compile on 1.4 [00:57:58] so whatever [00:58:13] anyways gonna sleep [00:58:32] What [00:58:40] What's Kerbalism? [00:58:47] a good fun life support mod [00:59:02] anyone know if they are offering Making History as direct download as well as stream? The official online store has no reference to it [00:59:04] woahhhh [00:59:05] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/137227-130-kerbalism-v129 [00:59:22] mod's owner hasn't been heard from in like half a year [00:59:26] so ima try to take the torch [01:04:48] go fir it [01:04:52] latr all [01:06:52] Looks huge [01:22:46] N70|zzz, someone already has [01:22:56] https://github.com/ScienceFun/Kerbalism-Continued [01:23:03] I'm sure he'd appreciate help [01:40:24] Does anyone know if the OSI drills work with asteroids? [01:40:45] Specifically the MEU-500-A [02:44:11] Arcan, aeiou [05:13:09] any mods on [07:02:03] I have seen that it is the 13th but I can't find whare to buy the new dlc [07:02:31] not yet [07:02:40] Oh ok [07:02:47] it is barely past midnight in mexico [07:02:57] Oh ok [07:03:05] as i know them it will be around evening or midnight in europe [07:03:28] Ok [07:03:31] Thx [07:35:54] Soon TM [07:42:55] Action: pixelfox slowly cruisers in ............ [07:44:21] hi sjwt [08:10:33] morning [08:19:37] star [08:20:34] eh.. time... [08:20:43] don't feel tired yet should sleep.. ugh [10:23:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:37:06] Hm. [10:37:22] How does the update work? When will it be released and where to buy it? :P [10:39:32] Or wait, its not the Making history? [10:39:40] Im confused. [10:42:21] The update to 1.4 is already out [10:42:30] Making history is a DLC and not yet released iirc [10:43:51] Right, its confusing. [10:43:55] :P [11:04:00] NGC3982: You seem buttery. [11:04:42] Action: NGC3982 is. [11:04:49] it was actually a cat, a long time ago [11:04:57] now, its the name of this server im running irssi from. [11:05:07] Action: NGC3982 has turned into a galaxy in ursa major. [11:10:01] NGC3982: Outside Falun reporting in. [11:10:01] :P [11:11:09] 1.4 [11:11:43] Leveller: YOU are buttery, then. [11:12:07] Are asteroids buggy in 1.4? [11:13:39] not that I know of. I catched a class D a few days ago [11:13:46] *caught [11:13:51] on my english... [11:14:36] Are my saved games compatible witht 1.4? [11:14:48] expect like ALL mods not to work. [11:15:14] dated quicksaves? [11:15:25] I used my 1.3 save and it works so far [11:15:38] the older parts are still there, but you can't use them in newer designs [11:15:56] and they may not be supported in 1.5 [11:16:13] so clean up your old crafts, if you have older parts on them... [11:16:23] im trying to get to jool, and right now im doing it by flying almost empty to minmus, refuel and go from there. recommended? [11:16:40] i dont understand how to reach jool from kerbin directly unmodded ;_;. [11:16:55] you point prograde and burn [11:17:02] ... [11:17:07] NGC3982: bring enough fuel. [11:17:12] Huge rockets [11:17:16] or small probes [11:17:21] im having trouble with building huge rockets that actually get farther. [11:17:31] I usually build a huge tug with lots of fuel in it and send it into orbit [11:17:34] then build small probes [11:17:35] and then I add all the other parts [11:17:41] also nuclear engine [11:17:41] it seems they deplete at 200km whatever i do. [11:17:41] https://78.media.tumblr.com/018a64f38849241c6445953844f660e5/tumblr_nz2isc5Iko1tevtzfo1_540.jpg [11:17:43] NGC3982: yeah that's the tyrrany of the rocket equation [11:18:16] there are people doing this on xenon [11:18:39] although this is possible, it takes very long burn times. Very very loooooooooong. [11:18:53] NGC3982: http://youtu.be/RAl-JeZ59T8 may interest you, I discuss how to plot interplanetary transfers using just maneuver nodes [11:18:53] YouTube - KSP Interplanetary Transfer Window Tutorial [11:18:59] Triffid_Hunter_: cool! [11:19:57] feels odd to youtube ksp without scott manleys voice thundering in the background [11:20:49] well I'm not scottish, sorry :P [11:22:03] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiL23P1W9dQ [11:22:03] YouTube - angry subtitled scottish people [11:24:04] bah, i never learn. forgot to extend the solar panels when leaving minmus [11:24:13] and im a doofus so i never mounted permanent panels [11:24:23] NGC3982: I always put a couple of those just in case [11:25:19] Triffid_Hunter_: /o\ you should have shown me this years ago! [11:26:23] Mat2ch: it's been around for years :P [11:26:32] Triffid_Hunter_: this is really good. great job :). [11:26:35] made in ksp 0.21 or something from memory [11:26:41] NGC3982: thanks [11:27:07] I never knew... I figured a lot of things out myself, but I never figured out how people do interplanetary transfers without a helper app [11:27:14] now it's pretty obvious... [11:27:24] Mat2ch did I show you my rocket from yesterday? [11:27:45] I saw the plopp. :D [11:27:57] heh [11:28:08] did you also see that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CznyU71HQY [11:28:08] YouTube - Homemade RC seaplane maiden on water and crash [11:28:23] https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/ToJOOL.PNG [11:28:33] name of that video is kinda spoilery Fluburtur [11:28:43] that should be enough. >7000 units of liquid fule fron minmus>jool. [11:29:03] Gasher_ it's youtube, I can't name it "surprise video watch and find out what happens" [11:29:51] what i dont understand is, i guess i want a long encounter with the object im trying to reach and land on? [11:30:26] i mean, a longer period between arrival and leaving must mean a slower relative speed to the object, when both objects are orbiting the same object (sun)? [11:31:20] Fluburtur: you need a stabilizer :) [11:32:56] Fluburtur: Is that a Citroen C4 ? [11:33:10] I think we got exact same model, year and color. [11:33:11] :P [11:34:06] Leveller not sure [11:34:18] Mat2ch yeah my friend isn't the best cameraman yet [11:34:20] Mat2ch: heh even Sir Manley seems to just eyeball the transfer orbit then timewarp until there's a close-ish intercept [11:34:33] In the beginning of the video when you walk from the car with plane in hand. [11:34:37] Or you/someone walk [11:35:39] yeah that was me [11:35:47] looks a bit small for a C4 however [11:35:50] nope, them 7000 fuelz did not help. node ETA 40 minutes. [11:35:51] :| [11:36:08] Fluburtur: It looks exactly like my car. [11:36:13] And i got a C4 [11:36:27] Leveller: that's a Peugeot [11:36:36] 306 or something [11:36:50] Doubt it [11:36:55] https://24.p3k.hu/app/uploads/2018/03/0k86tuw-599x800.jpg [11:37:06] most cars like those look similar anyways [11:37:41] that's the citroen c4 i would like http://p7.storage.canalblog.com/71/47/570736/107355743_o.jpg [11:37:45] ok, it's a 307: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_307#/media/File:Peugeot_307_front_20080320.jpg [11:37:45] my uncle ahs one [11:38:17] Fluburtur: and I've lost a plane to a tree, too :( [11:38:26] It's sad to not have access to a looooong ladder [11:38:42] well it is not just any tree [11:38:59] but a tree nearly over water on an island that can only be reached by boat [11:39:15] https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/citroen-c4-1.6-thp-155-egs-exclusive-grey-2011/1235359316 [11:41:53] the hood doesn't match, but the front lights. Hm [11:42:02] why do all French cars look the same? ;P [11:42:51] :P [11:43:01] because perfection all looks the same? :) [11:43:58] then they'd look like Teslas ;) [11:44:18] lol [11:45:01] that was funny [11:47:09] Mat2ch: if you look at current cars in europe you'll find that cars from one manufacturer almost always look the same [11:47:12] different models i mean [11:48:00] reminds me [11:48:10] http://carhumor.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/BMW-vs-LADA.jpg [11:48:34] heh [11:48:36] truth right there [11:49:00] don't fix it if it ain't broken [11:49:24] it's broken most of the time anyway [11:50:15] the car in that video is definitely not the 307 Mat2ch linked [11:50:24] bah, my spacecraft bugged on minmus after saving. doesnt create any nodes :/ [11:52:14] it's a peugeot 208 [11:53:23] https://i.imgur.com/ea7KHak.jpg [11:53:33] Hah, I knew it! It's still a Peugeot, but I didn't get the right model number :( [11:53:44] Althego: cheesy :P [11:53:47] My parts pictures in the menu are missing the upper half: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot0.png 1.4.0.2077 (LinuxPlayer) en-us [11:54:18] Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CznyU71HQY&lc=UgxJz1rTjb0b6eswx4V4AaABAg if it weren't so sad this would be funny [11:54:18] YouTube - Homemade RC seaplane maiden on water and crash [11:54:27] something like that happened in 1.3.1 regularly [11:54:30] (I'm talking about the comment) [11:54:32] a bit clicking around fixed it [11:54:41] or maybe i was missing the left half [11:54:44] i dont remember [12:20:59] nuclear fusion can't come soon enough [12:22:14] ok [12:26:12] sandbox, just look at the sun [12:26:26] already done [12:27:21] start building a dyson sphere, now [12:27:24] hm, i supposed that would at least daze you a bit [12:28:07] i doubt if we used up all the materials from venus we could build the sphere around the sun [12:30:56] http://www.scp-wiki.net/task-forces#toc30 [12:34:25] I still wanna try to build a mini-mini rocket program. [12:34:33] seen a few cool ones on youtube. [12:34:59] what is that [12:36:21] i guess that could lead to certain charges lol [12:40:23] hehe [12:51:07] forget the dyson sphere [12:51:16] far too ambitious a project [12:51:27] and needs engineering solutions we don't have [12:51:39] start building the dyson _swarm_ right now [12:51:52] Dyson Vacuum Cleaner [12:52:11] yes use the dyson product line to start the dyson swarm that'd be nice [12:52:38] their designs tend to be nice [13:07:02] dyson ball [13:16:17] Forget a dyson swarm, just a solar panel in space would be challenging enough [13:20:23] And I imagine the first dyson 'sphere' would probably look more like a d20 then an actual sphere... [13:21:45] lol [13:22:01] depends on manufacturing process i'd say [13:23:15] I love how an infinite loop in unity is going to cost you at least half an hour of your time before you regain control over your PC [13:27:15] For fun, I'm looking at the unity asset store and I realised how many 'mobile games' are just Unity asset flips [13:28:50] ve2dmn, if the plan is to rip off another game completely then why not just resell someone else's ripoff [13:29:07] :D [13:29:31] Steam has some too [13:30:20] ya know how I think for two years in a row steam had more new releases than in all years before [13:30:30] yes [13:30:51] I assume you watch the Jimquisition then? :P [13:30:58] no [13:32:03] I was mostly curious because I had this 'question' stuck in my head of 'how hard could it be to remake Outpost 1 and why hasn't anyone done it yet?' [13:32:22] I don't plan to do it: I lack any sort of descent coding skills [13:32:25] ve2dmn, just guessed because IIRC jim sterling coined the term "asset flip" and probably was the most vocal about the steam flood [13:32:52] "I lack any sort of descent coding skills" <- you should become a web developer then [13:33:42] NEVER [13:34:11] I work with web devs. I have no intentionof becoming one anytime soon [13:34:29] ve2dmn, I basically fell into the cockpit as one [13:35:30] I would do assembleur before I do Web developpement [13:36:18] https://78.media.tumblr.com/a1a53c6234aff32fb448644f8b752d29/tumblr_inline_p5a356ZD2F1qm2gm0_540.jpg [13:36:33] ve2dmn, I am the only developer so far on the team so I get to everything, meaning I can do it in .net [13:36:47] I mean... I did write some kOS, some C# code for a mod and some other things over the last 2 decades, but my code quality is next to non existant [13:36:52] *get to decide everything [13:37:46] I started coding at about 12 and will graduate next year at 22, so I'm literally going to apply for entry level positions with ten years of experience [13:38:41] Fluburtur, so? [13:38:58] languages are weird and writting them is even more weird [13:39:30] kinda hard to call your native one weird because of the writing style which is taught since year 1 [13:40:09] ...I still have not been able to restart unityengine, meaning I may actually lose more than half an hour on that one inf loop [14:02:33] GlassYuri: I started coding at 8 on a Commodore 64 and I still think I'm crap [14:07:31] just coding won't make one good [14:08:27] (though, tbh, I don't consider myself to be all that good, and I've been coding for 35 years) [14:09:17] also, there's "what does it mean to be good?" [14:11:33] so I found this song on youtube which, trying again again over several days and sessions, would only play the first 40 seconds [14:12:03] then I listened to it once on bilibili and now it also works on youtube [14:12:34] bilibili? [14:12:47] so clearly they have an algorithm in place that determines just how far they can annoy their customers before they wander off [14:13:05] Althego, niconico but it's better but it's chinese only [14:13:16] GlassYuri: people who use youtube are NOT youtube's customers [14:13:25] advertisers are [14:13:35] and who views the ads? [14:13:53] The products view the ads [14:13:55] youtube's product :P [14:14:16] GlassYuri: you are produce :P [14:14:41] NOM NOM NOM [14:14:47] not sure whether frozen or fresh, though :) [14:16:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:16:49] I watch year-old videos, so I must be a stale produce [14:17:32] I use adblock [14:17:54] discontinued produce? [14:18:02] is Making History not available for direct download??!?! [14:18:19] it hasn't been released yet [14:18:31] I thought that was today [14:18:42] Mexico time [14:18:43] yes but todays is longer than 2 hours [14:18:48] 24 [14:18:52] because of timzezones [14:19:14] maybe there are a few streamers showing it off already [14:19:29] they have been for a week or two [14:19:39] weird, I am in PST and it's the 13th for everyone else but Hawaii [14:20:00] currently probably dasvaldez is streaming if i read the zones right [14:20:02] zanie420: 10am CST is the likely time [14:20:17] thx! [14:20:24] could be later, though [14:20:30] iirc, 1.2 was later [14:20:41] (I know something was) [14:20:42] zanie420: we don't have any more info then you do at this time. We just know it's today. [14:20:56] Patience young Kerman [14:21:06] and past precedent [14:21:21] after a year my patience is wearing thin [14:21:26] (remember, those doing the releasing need to be awake to do the releasing) [14:21:35] zanie420: aww [14:21:50] 1.4 just wet my appetite [14:22:38] sharing mission will change the entire forum challenge system, which is the only reason I have had fun playing still [14:22:40] doesn't matter how soggy your appetite is, you still need to be patient [14:23:17] zanie420: I stayed behind because of mods, but I understand your enthusiam [14:23:43] playing stock again, re-taught me the game [14:23:52] like... the last update of Stellaris made re-install the game [14:24:13] I plan to do the same with KSP, but keep my old save [14:24:21] zanie420: how does that work? [14:25:50] liking the new engine [14:25:56] At this point 'stock' for me includes KER and KAC [14:26:10] true [14:26:12] me too [14:26:27] fortunately the both work under 1.4 [14:26:40] the mission builder? [14:27:02] EL until the cows come home [14:27:08] or I burn out completely [14:27:37] that was weird [14:27:45] taniwha: you are a mod developper :P [14:28:16] ve2dmn: exactly [14:28:20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyR0iNr-Uug [14:28:20] YouTube - KSP Making History Expansion - How to Create with the Mission Builder [14:28:36] create what? :P [14:28:49] missions presumably [14:28:54] O_CREAT [14:29:04] zanie420: taniwha here is the current maintainer of Extraplanetary Launchpads if you didn't guess [14:29:23] current? wasnt it always him? [14:29:28] i know he adopted a few mods [14:29:32] so, with challenges on the forum it's always been the honor system and showing your work [14:29:39] Althego: no, the first six months or so were Skykooler [14:29:58] (he created it, I started contributing, he passed me the reins) [14:30:03] and you have been working on it for years now [14:30:04] now you can actually setup the requirements/conditions/parameters [14:30:29] Mon Jul 29 12:32:31 2013 +0900 [14:30:31] first commit [14:30:43] (while Skykooler still had it) [14:30:46] wow taniwha! [14:30:49] OG [14:30:50] zanie420: I still have a challenge that is probably not covered by the mission builder... [14:31:01] do tell? [14:31:15] "Fastest to put a flag on the moon in hard career" [14:31:26] i can do that very fast [14:31:30] I only jumped of the Kerbal bandwagon in early 2016 [14:31:51] Althego: in hard career? you can't even do EVA at the start of the game [14:31:52] you can totally make that a challenge! [14:31:59] Kerbins SOI is much bigger in 1.4 ... http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot8.png [14:32:01] ok, maybe it is worth to wait 1 day so that i can do more than just hohmann transfer, that spares time [14:32:08] skykooler's first commit was Jun 13, same year [14:32:16] (so six months was wrong) [14:32:27] but he'd had something for a while before that, I believe [14:32:36] zanie420: I did with a friend and we both failed [14:33:15] that's the other thing too [14:33:21] 'with a friend" [14:33:35] going to mean so much more now [14:33:48] zanie420: The problem with that challenge is that it is contract dependant... thus a bit random :/ [14:33:58] it's not MP, but I will enjoy sharing missions [14:34:09] darsie: you don't have patched conics, thus no SoI exit information [14:34:25] so, nope, try again :) [14:35:21] I believe the mission builder will be able to handle making contracts as well [14:35:48] my understanding is you can't use the mission builder in career mode (but that's just hearsay) [14:35:53] yeah, to plant a flag you HAVE to unlock EVA right? [14:35:58] im on 1.3, and im noticing heavy freeze lags every 20-30 seconds in my game. it seems to correlate to the number of vehicles i have flying at the moment. is this a known issue? [14:36:10] yup [14:36:19] zanie420: by the time you're on the way to Mun, you can afford to unlock the AC [14:36:22] NGC3982: yes [14:36:27] in reality a machine could plant a flag. just as it could take surface sample [14:36:32] not much you can do I'm afraid :/ [14:36:34] i so want a surface sample taker robot arm module [14:36:42] NGC3982: trying upgrading to 1.4, it did wonders for me [14:36:42] /if/ you can get into orbit on your first launch, you can do it then, even [14:36:45] does removing flying vehicles help? [14:36:53] (however, getting into orbit with just fleas?) [14:36:58] it's part count related [14:37:05] you just need to collectsome science around ksc [14:37:14] NGC3982: check out https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/139128-12x13-memgraph-1103-with-stutter-reduction/ [14:37:19] with that you cna unlock enough parts to go itno orbit on the first launch [14:37:59] getting around KSC is a bit of a pain at first, though [14:38:18] (not impossible, though, since you can use two mk1 capsules to make a "rover") [14:38:23] zanie420: ok! [14:38:55] NGC3982: also, check for debris [14:39:10] taniwha: ahh, thx :). [14:39:32] it all adds up (every bit of debris is another chunk of orbit updates which means more hits to various solvers...) [14:39:48] taniwha: debris == vehicles in tracking station, right? [14:39:53]