[00:00:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/401888029007937536/1510534763026.jpg [00:01:16] when things get really bad the game send twists your way [00:05:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:06:18] a few plot twist keeps the story intersting [00:12:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:15:58] so what're the optimal ascent parameters for mechjeb? [00:36:38] Star Fox 2 run is using the waifus. [00:37:55] Wow, this looks like shit [00:39:21] Blaank: ahem. [00:39:46] Action: TheKosmonaut pokes Blaank with the long list of rules and highlights language [00:39:56] wow, wrong channel [00:40:02] how did it get to kps [00:41:01] sorry. [00:41:10] I do try but I must have accidentally clicked over at some point. [00:44:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/401899198187962368/DSC_6645.JPG [00:50:28] Blaank: you will be punished accordingly [00:50:56] Please take five minutes and read all available literature on the truth of the flat Earth [01:06:38] The globalists got him [01:06:57] Globulists* [01:30:10] wut up Kosmo [01:36:28] madmerlyn: not much. Cold mornings. [01:37:13] My water heater got switched off while I was mid shampoo. It's -2 outside. [01:37:48] My bathroom has no heating either. So cold water in a cold room. I screamed and the wife said "oops. Haha" [01:38:03] (she turned off the heater) [01:42:19] I think I broke the game [01:49:12] pre-digital twitter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTdVjNSVQAERhY2.jpg [02:22:55] is it just me or does mechjeb's landing guidance not work at all [02:23:10] like i tell it to land at a point on the mun and it carefully and deliberately lands on the other side [02:24:25] yeah ok it's apparently utterly broken [02:34:05] ah, fixed in dev builds [02:36:44] quiet tonight [02:42:49] back to the good old days of being able to land on the VAB roof in one smooth burn [02:50:16] I wonder if Elon Musk cave us directions to build a stock version of the Falcon 9 in KSP. [02:54:29] https://xkcd.com/1938/ [03:05:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:09:13] Wooooo that was close. I thought I was orbiting the other way around Ike and nearly slammed my huge ship into it. [03:32:22] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [04:51:11] hm. duna sample return is going to be tough at my current tech tree level [05:11:50] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [05:15:19] Oh gfreat....people are saying now we died in 2012 and the LHC just replaced us all with our alternate universe counterpart... [05:16:09] Draconiator: just laugh [05:16:24] well, do the WGFP, then laugh :) [05:18:15] wgfp? [05:18:24] weapons grade face palm [05:18:50] Wild Goose Fight Protection [05:19:02] Draconiator: how can that make any sense? [05:20:17] heh, top link from google is TTA's t-shirt [05:37:10] https://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume4/v4i4/chickfig1.jpg - yeesh, SOMEONE had too much time on their hands... [05:37:41] 2/4 of my landing legs burned off during reentry so now I've got a biped lander https://i.imgur.com/F6U4v1c.png [05:37:58] looks strangely humanoid [05:38:37] hehe [05:38:50] dunno how it balances with SAS off [05:38:54] magic [05:39:20] it is perfectly symmetrical and the legs have larger than zero contact area with the ground [05:39:21] LHC replaced our flat Earth with a round one. [05:39:27] good [05:39:35] flat earth would be horrible [05:40:03] I'd expend the collision modeling to treat the landing legs as single points of contact, not plates [05:40:12] Steel fuel can't melt jet beams. [05:40:15] can be [05:41:14] either way mun sample return was an astounding success other than forgetting to install a thermometer, barometer, and the legs burning off [05:42:08] hehe [05:42:21] i hate that in stock you cant have sample return without a kerbal [05:43:12] oh yeah, they really need to add a mechanical arm or something [05:43:22] not even that [05:43:28] you cant see how the kerbal takes the sample [05:43:33] it is just a menu item [05:43:46] dusts off xer shoes inside the cabin [05:43:46] maybe a part or certain probe cores could just take surface sample from the enu [05:44:11] Althego: I remember when we were promised new animations :( [05:44:19] i dont :) [05:58:09] it was in one of the weekly updates [05:58:19] back before 1.1 came out [06:04:28] https://i.gyazo.com/913ebce9624dbb72fdc3233c5239d895.png - Had to do it, hehe [06:06:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:08:15] now imagine it, a furry president, and still better than trump [07:49:09] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Cynephobn' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:49:57] stock tech tree should have wheels first, then jets and wings, then rockets and probes, then pods [07:50:15] in fact it is easier to collect science from orbit than to collect it from the space center because of this [08:10:37] Althego: 1) politics here? No. 2) the tech tree mods are a lifesaver for that. [08:10:47] mods [08:10:53] that tells ecverything [08:11:11] The tech shrub has always been silly [08:11:39] ... is it really that hard not to bring up politics? [08:14:59] ISS Urine Tank Level: 38% [08:30:19] we should have this in ta bot [08:42:56] cringe: thanks [08:43:03] been a while since I checked [09:41:40] The world first organization doesn't recognize I've been in Jools atmosphere even if I go so deep I explode :(. [09:41:50] Will Jeb still get the XP? [09:42:42] The sole purpose of the mission is to get Jeb the 5th star. [10:02:45] Can I check in the save file if he has it? [10:08:51] FLIGHT_LOG 14 = Flight,Jool [10:50:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:51:52] is there a way to go to duna in stock without the map? [10:54:59] i could use my burn time or speed increase to end the burn [10:55:08] but i dont have a reference to navigate with [10:55:20] on the start of the burn [10:57:21] the only thing i can think of is the skybox [10:59:42] but then the chosen point will depend on the date of the launch window [11:02:07] you need a star tracker, like every normal space craft has. :D [11:50:01] Althego: burn prograde when duna is on the horizon (if you're in the window) [11:50:15] what, the same as with the moon? [11:50:18] (seriously, it worked for me the one time I tried) [11:50:21] yeah [11:50:31] ah because it is also around 45 deg [11:50:43] of course, you might need the map for figuring out when you have the encounter [11:50:56] works for minmus, too [11:51:13] (not perfectly, but good enough) [12:00:42] hello all [12:01:17] cant greet you, the bot would greet me back :) [12:01:29] :) [12:01:41] do you know much about messing with the persistent files? [12:02:04] not really. they are regular save files, text format, editable [12:02:14] there are some automatic backups too [12:02:17] nick1: what do you want to know? [12:02:21] about as much as me then. [12:02:43] i'm looking to re-activate a mission. i have found it under completed missions in my persistent file [12:03:03] something glitched and my mission has completed but it is impossible. since i haven't landed yet [12:03:11] i need to re-activate a mission [12:03:25] you sure you had to land? [12:03:39] yeah i have to land a rover on moho [12:03:43] hehe, i remember when in the older progression system i got some landing on pol completed because i landed in the polar crater of the mun [12:03:49] nick1: hmm [12:03:59] before i even achieved orbit the mission had completed, and no financial reward came [12:04:07] not sure but it glitcjed i'm sure [12:04:15] could it have expired? [12:04:27] anyway, sorry, I don't know what to do for contracts [12:04:31] i see [12:04:36] no it never expires [12:04:41] it takes knowledge of the before and after [12:04:50] same, looking to change it without breaking my game [12:05:26] well, on that, I can give advice: make backups :) [12:05:57] yeah i;m good at that. my average mission will take around 30 backups haha. every manouvre pretty much [12:06:02] you can just have a regular save done from the space center [12:06:06] from time to time [13:35:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/402093421151649802/DSC_8299.JPG [13:39:17] what is that apparatus? [13:39:58] something to dry the tail of my canadait [13:40:07] which is useless because I will make a new one [13:48:03] It seems the fixed landing gear has way too much bounce. I'm going to tinker with the settings and report a bug if I find a solution. [13:54:13] Fluburtur: a new canadair oder new tail? :D [13:54:37] just a new tail [13:55:08] one without holes for water? :D [13:55:19] yeah [13:55:23] probably wood even [13:55:27] so water won't damage it [14:16:34] make it from ice, so water heals it :) [14:17:04] eh [14:17:10] Mythbusters tried that. ;) [14:17:20] water didn't heal it... [14:17:30] in reality water melts ice if it is not cold [14:19:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHufDv6obrU [14:19:44] YouTube - boat made of ice and newspaper.avi [14:20:35] well, it's two years since the show ended. I still miss them :| [14:31:28] pleasure building strange craft with you :) [14:35:20] they didn't get along so well, it seems. But this was true appreciation [14:35:56] the tail on the real one is rather wide http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/64/pics/94_o_2.jpg [14:36:11] uh [14:36:19] that was not planned [14:36:32] anyways, the old tail was 30cm wide and I will make the new one 40cm [15:05:04] good morning [15:08:31] ;tell darsie Doesn't matter what the world first organization, in my heart, Jeb Kerman has all the stars. [15:08:31] ve2dmn: I'll let darsie know when I see them [15:09:09] I think I forgot a or 2 in there [15:09:17] bah! [15:12:52] you know what, I will wait for tomorrow and see if I can make the tail with waterproofed cardboard [15:13:25] is it priciey? [15:13:35] no [15:13:38] And is there a weigh difference? [15:13:52] apparently I need to mix acetone and polystyrene and paint that on cardboard [15:14:29] sounds like nasty fumes [15:14:40] yeah [15:15:55] but gas mask! [15:23:21] butt gas mask? Sound unconfortable [15:25:40] btw, this encouter script is giving me headaches (good ones) [15:27:54] I'm trying to make the encouter: [15:28:04] 1) not crash into the planet [15:28:13] 2) not encouter any moons. [15:28:20] 3) Not leave the SOI [15:28:26] 4) not take 400 years [15:28:35] 5) not use all the dV [15:28:47] hehe [15:28:54] The function is getting more complicated by the minute [15:29:10] plus I have to watch 2 cats so they don't kill each other [15:31:48] So far my method consist of mathing Pe orbit 1 with a point on orbit of the ship, and adjusting the orbit around that point so I get an encouter [15:33:01] nobody likes 14k line functions, split them to smaller functions [15:33:05] But I could potentially use a million dV to force that encouter (by staying there, burning all the time) [15:33:26] coders in the 80s apparently dug 14k line functions [15:33:53] Or I could wait a million years and in that timeframe I would surely get a close-call at 4 m/s dv [15:33:54] after working on ancient radius servers & similar horrors... [15:34:12] hehe [15:34:19] ...so I have to compromise and I'm not sure what's the best way :/ [15:34:27] i menrioned that number specifically because i have seen stuff like that [15:34:41] VanDisaster: Code never dies [15:34:50] i realized i dont know most of the continents of kerbin [15:35:07] I have seen an ACSII text file of over 1 MB of just COBOL [15:35:13] never even went there with the exception of landing from far away [15:35:34] Which explain my hatred of the language [15:36:24] brb, need to seperate 2 cats [15:37:53] catA.separate(CatB) [15:45:33] nah. [15:46:02] ve2dmn: how scratched up did you get? [15:46:04] self.Take(catB,Empty_bedroom) [15:46:45] My cat is very nervous. The other cat is all like: "Yeah! A New friend!!!... Why is she angry? :(" [15:47:15] So I simply pick up that second cat (Kitten) and put her back into the empty bedrrom where all her stuff is [15:47:52] ah [15:48:06] They didn't even attack each other. My own cat is afraid of the kitten, so she shows her teeth and retreat [15:48:45] afraid of a *kitten*? [15:49:23] The kitten is all innocent [15:49:26] presumably this isn't a very young kitten :) [15:49:36] 6 months? [15:50:19] small cat sized then, that's... a bit more understandable [15:50:28] She looks almost dead around september. You could almost see her every bone [15:50:45] So my Mom took pity on the poor thing [15:51:16] Right now she's leaving for Sunny destinations, which is why I have 2 cats in the house [15:51:40] In the worse case, I can close the door and they wont see each other [15:52:03] which is what I do when I go out [15:52:40] My own cat doesn't really care about that extra bedroom. There's nothing exciting in it [15:55:03] anyway. It's back to my kOS I go [16:19:14] ve2dmn I dunno what text editor you use, but I've just been using plain ol' gedit for kOS, and I found this: https://github.com/KSP-KOS/EditorTools/tree/develop/Gedit [16:19:27] better syntax highlighting than C++ :D [16:19:50] I use Notepad++ on my gaming Machine and gedit on my work laptop. [16:19:56] So I'll be adding that :D [16:20:53] https://github.com/KSP-KOS/EditorTools/tree/develop/NotepadPlusPlus [16:21:30] I'm using that Monkai style [16:21:34] nice [16:23:06] ...it's not making my code any better, but at least it looks nice. [16:28:58] do the orbital scanners like the SENTINEL telescope provide science points? [16:35:09] the sentinel needs to be in heliocentric orbit to do anything at all [16:36:20] ve2dmn kinda annoying that gedit's preferences can't be edited without the command line now [16:36:25] wtf was gnome thinking [16:36:45] I'm having to manually set my scheme using gsettings command because there's no edit or preferences menu on the app's GUI [16:36:54] Ask them, not me [16:37:23] builder-dark seems like a pretty good one [16:37:39] Also, I find that in case of bloat, people will try to re-invent the wheel and re-do the mistakes of the past. [16:38:10] AKA, the mythical Man-Month is lost on people [16:38:17] (the book) [16:38:39] Action: UmbralRaptor should read that at some point. [16:39:21] It's old, but humans have not changed that much, so the 'what-not-do-to' has not changed much [16:40:45] wow kos has nano syntax highlighting.. I didn't even know that was a thing [16:40:49] who scripts in nano? lol [16:41:07] Someone, somewhere [16:41:29] nano is what you use for quick edits if you don't know vi [16:42:02] Or Pico [16:42:07] sorry, pico [16:43:25] When I need a quick editor, I use what's installed. It's usually vi(m) or gedit. [16:43:59] On Windows, I use Notepad++, because there are no native 'editors' on Windows [16:44:51] I replace notepad with notepad2 on all my windows servers I manage, not full featured like NPP but has some basic bells like line numbering and basic highlighting [16:45:05] Notepad is more of a Demo App then a proper editor [16:45:16] hehe [16:45:29] remember when it had a 32K max characters limit? [16:45:30] I mean... it has not changed since... 1992? [16:45:42] you can type that much, and i did [16:46:08] Action: UmbralRaptor hugs vim. [16:46:45] Action: ve2dmn takes a sip from his vi mug [16:47:34] did you know that you can change 'a' into 'A' using ~ in vi? It's written right here on this mug! [16:48:04] Too bad Thinkgeek does not sell it any more [16:49:57] and A into a [16:50:32] of course [16:50:39] 'Change case' [16:51:11] yep [16:51:38] http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/7bbe/ [16:54:03] Action: UmbralRaptor did not know that. [16:58:06] I use it rarely because the ~ is hard to get to on the FR-CA multilingual keyboard [16:58:28] you do programming on english, possibly us layout [16:58:37] any other way borders with insanity [16:59:17] It's close enough to US keyboard with having the problems of the AZERTY [16:59:27] I can switch between the 2 without much issues [16:59:42] S U B L I M E [16:59:46] but switching from US to FR is insanity [17:00:08] The number row is reversed, for example [17:10:27] alright, time to launch our first permanent satellite [17:11:00] good luck with Stayputnik [17:11:07] hehe [17:11:10] caps lock power [17:11:17] the KOSDS-1 'Sauron', the Sauron will see the seen and unseen characteristics of Kerbin, providing kerbalkind with important information about Kerbin's surface, atmosphere, and magnetic fields [17:11:33] watch'n tapegaming's fighter dukeout... got a few planes myself but I don't mess with bdarmoury.. [17:12:51] launch vehicle is a SR2 'Sandstone' rocket (2 T800s with a LV-T30 engine) [17:12:57] dont mess with the missionary man [17:13:45] That's got a payload of what, 1.5 tonnes? [17:14:03] little eaglet jet fighter... pull'n 30gs. Um ouch. surprised it held together [17:14:57] mind you.. I've pulled 40-50gs on some things... anyways [17:15:28] & correction: more like 2-3. O_o [17:16:27] launch was successful, time to park this bad boy and get some data [17:21:32] https://i.imgur.com/kEcy4hR.png [17:22:51] so spaceprobe-y [17:23:06] the magnetometer on the boom? [17:23:10] those plasmawave experiments antennae? [17:23:21] or plasma wave [17:23:39] RPWS, Magnometer, and RADAR altimetry [17:23:51] plus GOREsat on top [17:23:51] radio plasma wave... [17:24:56] I wanted to download galellio's RPWS data... 10gigs later.. and still had more coming in, decided to just give up [17:25:26] hehe [17:25:39] it was the mission's lifetime results... [17:26:00] sadly it was coming at me rather slowly.. 4 hours later.. [17:27:13] Action: UmbralRaptor is amused [17:29:16] Action: JCB a bit listless.. [17:47:56] ve2dmn I think I might have enough inspiration+motivation this afternoon to work on a commsat constellation deployment script [17:49:01] right now the way I've always done it is park in the orbit I want, look at orbital period in KER, then adjust my ap or peri to be 4/3 or 2/3 orbital period, then circularize, but with kOS I could have it calculate the orbital period I want without having to park there first, insert right into the pacing orbit [18:08:20] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZdo0RID9K4&t=60s - I can't tell if some of these are fake or real... [18:08:20] YouTube - SPOILED KID CRINGE COMPILATION #3 (Tantrums and Crying) (2017) [18:11:54] Draconiator I can't make any uav that is good enough [18:12:04] guess no plane can surpass my k29 [18:13:56] Heh [18:14:50] I called mine the Titanobolt, because it's big, and it's FAST...well not fast at low altitudes but you get me heh. [18:16:05] Pretty sure the second girl in the above video is the "Vampire Surgeon" person. [18:18:23] madmerlyn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-zmptK7PDE [18:18:23] YouTube - Explaining the Delta Rocket Fireball - Kerbal Space Program Doesn't Teach.... [18:50:23] does Laythe have precisely the same atmospheric and gravitational characteristics as Kerbin? ie. can I simply test a lander on Kerbin and use it for Laythe without modification? [18:54:50] no [18:54:50] lower gravity, less oxygen, different atmospheric properties by altitude [18:55:23] gah [18:55:34] so generally gets are with lower thrust, but wings glide better, on the other hand it is harder to land, and the upper atmosphere is surprisingly dense, although it ends at a lower altitude [18:55:44] gets = jets [18:55:58] I dont have any jets unlocked anyway [18:56:15] then you probably shouldnt try to go to laythe anyway [18:57:03] it is a good place to go, because you can spare a lot of fuel on a jet ascent [18:57:14] and you can search for a good landing spot with the jets [18:57:29] without jets it is not worth the trouble [18:59:15] ive currently on landed on the mun, minmus and gilly, since I went to gilly via EVA pack [18:59:19] *only [18:59:23] lot of orbital flybys though [18:59:37] duna? [19:00:03] wait, i think you wwnt to duna already [19:00:03] low orbit passes over ike, duna and eve [19:00:04] although the eve mission went very badly twice [19:00:31] I had to scrub the first one because I botched the rendevous, and the second one ended up with valentina bailing out of a wrecked command pod on an escape trajectory and having to be rescued in an enormous spacecraft [19:00:43] lol [19:00:49] duna is a friendly place [19:01:00] obviously we gave Jeb the mission of sitting on top of a huge stack of massive SRBs and a Twin Boar [19:01:02] barely needs more delta v than the mun, because of the atmosphere [19:01:24] oh also got disorientated during Gilly departure so burned the wrong way [19:01:35] since my maneuvre node marker went a bit crazy and I wasted a tonne of delta-V [19:01:48] was supposed to be increasing my orbital eccentricity and I ended up circularising it [19:02:30] hehe [19:04:30] oh wait I have the Juno [19:05:59] if you font know how to use tylo for gravity assisted capture i would say pack a heatshield for laythe too, because the upper atmosphere is quite nasty [19:07:12] as usual the most basic jet is not very helpful [19:07:24] the problem is the upper speed you can attain with those [19:07:36] and hence delta v you spare for rockets [19:10:32] yeah I can do a gravity assist, ive become relatively adept at orbital maneuvres [19:10:36] just hate gravity turns honestly [19:16:29] gravity turn is not a gravity assist [19:16:59] tomorrow unsounded is coming back from hiatus. yay [19:28:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF_wrFuY9_c [19:28:34] YouTube - Vivaldi - Spring I [19:29:42] this guy plays bass way too well [19:30:03] Does the 5th star add any capabilities for pilots? [19:32:26] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Pilot [19:32:39] Raise G Tolerance [19:37:23] So no. Above 3 star it's minor [19:38:57] ive never actually done a spaceplane although ive been doing KSP for years [19:39:06] last aircraft I flew may or may not have been an infiniglider [19:39:45] off and on that is [19:41:04] thx [19:44:18] I'm kind of tired of babysitting this encouter script... [19:44:33] I have not progressed in the game since :/ [19:47:23] Getting the 5th star via Jool/Lathy flyby/dive was tough. [19:47:32] Laythe [19:49:45] Install MKS [19:49:55] You can get experiences other ways... [19:50:07] ...of course it also comes with Life Support so... [19:54:59] Jeb about to dip into Jool: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot135.png [19:55:49] lol [19:55:54] :) [19:58:10] First I had a Communotron 88-88 till I realized I forgot to open it and everything still worked. Then I ditched it. [19:58:15] -100 kg [19:58:37] I would have flooded the system with probes by now if not for my relay range issues [20:08:04] ions are bad at jool [20:08:30] Unless you have nuclear power xD [20:08:42] why doesn't stock KSP have a nuclear reactor? [20:08:47] Or unlimited time [20:08:47] why can't I have JIMO [20:18:02] Althego: why? [20:18:30] because you need to pack a lot of solar panels. far away from the sun [20:18:53] and that further diminishes their not so good twr [20:18:59] Althego: No. I had lots of battery. And lots of time to recharge. I ran out of battery at Kerbin. [20:19:10] in the shade [20:19:55] Without ions you need to pack lots of fuel. [20:20:18] I made it with 70 kg Xe. [20:20:42] no amount of mass saving will convince me to suffer through ions at jool [20:21:02] or rather anywhere [20:21:42] I landed at Jeb at Eeloo with ions. [20:21:58] that just proves you are a masochist :) [20:22:03] :) [20:22:43] I think. I don't remember well. [20:23:39] I did use an RTG there. [20:25:45] Yes, yes, I remember now. It was tough. Needed a very precise suicide burn or whatever you call it. Best attempt was when I only lost 1 battery at landing. [20:28:05] http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot39.png [20:28:31] Damn, I didn't need that antenna. [20:29:17] Or did I need to transmit science? The ship didn't make it all the way back. Had to send a rescue ship. [20:29:28] kerbal g-tolerance... since 1.2? mm.. whats max g they can handle at no stars? [20:30:16] https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Pilot says 1.15x for pilots. [20:30:30] Action: darsie tests ... [20:30:36] I saw that... 1.15x of what though? [20:30:56] maybe 1.15x of tourists, engineers and scientists? [20:31:42] normally I don't go above 4 or 5gs in career... I"m going to wager a guess g-tolerance is turned off in sandbox? [20:34:05] so, according to my records it's been about one year since I was last here [20:34:22] (as GreeningGalaxy, also according to records) [20:34:29] hi GG [20:34:34] ahoy [20:34:41] I was gone for a while too [20:35:26] we mostly talk about kOS in here nowadays heh, with occasional discussion on Delta IVs lighting themselves on fire nominally [20:35:49] Ellied: wb [20:36:01] oh, fascinating, it appears my old nick is banned in here [20:36:10] JCB: Bill just survived 17+ g for a short time. [20:36:12] .... star 1 pilot, pulled 54g's... no blackout [20:36:12] you're such a bad person, I can see why [20:36:15] hehe the scott manley video [20:36:24] fireball nominally [20:36:39] does it have to be sustained? [20:36:42] I watched that launch and hadn't seen a Delta before, I thought it was gonna splode [20:36:44] dunno [20:37:00] AFAIK you have to enable G force blackout in your game settings JCB [20:37:05]