[00:07:45] Okay that didn't work. oh well. [00:18:20] Try, try, again [00:18:37] Try(try()) [00:18:57] try() { try() } [00:32:04] crap [00:32:13] So anyone know of the band Sabaton? [00:32:32] offtopic but i gotto ask. [00:38:59] Leveller: That silly metal band that has an album about Swedish military history? [00:39:19] UmbralRaptop: Yep [00:39:36] I thought they where a "local metall band" from my city. [00:39:42] apparently.. they are quite big. [00:45:09] Leveller: They always do music for Paradox's games [00:45:19] Rokker: ayy you got a sabaton fan in here [00:45:35] reminds me when I learned Arcade Fire was known outside this town [00:46:28] TheKosmonaut: is that the Viking Gods band? [00:46:52] FAR FROM THEIR LAND AS THEY TAKE THEIR STAND [00:47:06] Sabaton is beautiful [00:54:18] Leveller: I love sabaton, I've bought a ton of their musci [00:54:19] music [00:55:47] Rokker: Does Sabaton have music for HOI? [00:55:54] TheKosmonaut: yes [00:55:56] Seems like the only tracks they should have are train tracks [00:56:33] TheKosmonaut: 2 volumes [00:56:36] I own both [00:57:25] ahhhhh ckan's been stuck in the same spot downloading something for the past hour [00:57:29] at 99% [00:57:39] what did I do to deserve this [00:58:35] tawny: Install CKAN [00:58:48] tawny: you know that's a big right, it's not downloading [00:58:48] pff [00:58:54] you gotta stop and restart [00:59:04] not a fan? [00:59:14] oh yeah I figured that out [00:59:25] I was hoping it was just my shoddy internet and if I left it alone for a while it'd work [00:59:49] Rokker: cool. They have a yearly gig in the city i live. (Where they are from. Falun Sweden) [00:59:59] never seen them as i thougth they where some local shit. [01:00:03] :P [01:00:15] Leveller: LANGUAGE! >:( [01:00:32] TheKosmonaut: Local feces [01:00:40] There. [01:00:47] You have chosen... WIsely [01:00:59] Latin is proper language. [01:01:23] Not that i know much of it.. it was a gamble. And i hope no one corrects me. [01:01:25] Leveller: nah, they are pretty big [01:01:36] Rokker: So i have learned. The last hour. [01:02:06] been living here since 2011 and they have this yearly gig.. "nah i wont go.. some local band..:" [01:02:43] Carolus rex is nice. (And yes ive been in Swedish military and im still in it as a volenteer) [01:05:49] TheKosmonaut: HULLO [01:05:58] Ew, a stupid_chris [01:06:08] stupid_chris: HALLO [01:06:10] ew you [01:06:18] HULLOH is the best hulloh [01:06:26] in some manley voice. [01:07:12] hugh low [01:07:20] Hugh laurie [01:07:24] Oh.. [01:07:26] those 2.. [01:07:29] in some ksp show. [01:07:34] stupid_chris: Did you get dat dank dlc? [01:07:51] I havent opened ksp in over a year [01:08:13] Leveller did you install the multiplayer mod? [01:08:35] Fluburtur: I have been using MP mod for years. [01:08:39] currently working on an OpenGL assignment and I'm hovering in here because I can get some nice c++ advices at times \o/ [01:08:49] LMP or DMP? [01:08:51] Even had a "rea [01:08:54] DMP [01:09:05] because I tried to use it in both my ksp installs and didn't work [01:09:07] LMP that is [01:09:11] even had a "real time only warp disabled" server up for like 6months. [01:09:21] heh [01:09:27] Was some good fun planning stuff. [01:09:31] woould like to play some [01:09:45] I have nice fast planes that can circle kerbin in under an hour [01:10:26] also I re-lit my failed rocket engine from yesterday since most of the fuel was unburned [01:10:48] it did burn nice but was a bit hard to ignite and didn't burn entirely in one go [01:11:19] also using rocket candy fuel broken in power about half a millimeter thick burns very fast and acts like a smoke bomb [01:12:07] and I might have to make smokes too because one of my odl teacher wants my help to do a clip for one of his musics [01:13:45] also there is a lot of residu left in the rocket tube [01:13:53] any candy rocket specialist here? [01:19:15] a promise has been kept. I woke up to find a Making History expansion in my store account [01:20:41] Well, that answers the question on if I was reading the date on my account properly. [01:20:45] I was, DLC get. [01:22:17] for me. DLC with one single addition (mission creator) that doesent appeal to me. Plus some "mods". No thanks. BUT. If it would have something really usable for ME. I would buy it at a instant. [01:22:42] KSP have brought me thousands of hours of joy. [01:23:02] the new parts should be stock but then it is hard to make something DLC worthy that shouldn't need to be in stock [01:23:05] But i feel that this is some cheap cra.. feces. Of a DLC [01:23:14] also I don't care much for the mission builder [01:23:18] TheKosmonaut: see how i didnt swear? [01:23:19] :) [01:23:38] Fluburtur: modded parts you can get by the hundreds for free. [01:23:49] Leveller: I will brandish my breaker bar anyway [01:23:51] yesh but I don't use much mods [01:23:54] I will gladly pay for a a good addon. [01:23:55] Action: TheKosmonaut brandishing intensifies [01:23:57] and the few I use don't add parts [01:24:12] TheKosmonaut: i dont follo. [01:24:13] +w [01:24:16] like the only one I always use is kerbinside because more bases [01:24:25] and bda in my secondary install [01:24:57] TheKosmonaut: I have even been to Squad HQ. [01:25:03] Leveller: I dont have kicking boots on, so I just swing my heavy metal rod around in order to keep everyone in line. SInce I am the oppressive moderator [01:25:11] but yeah I won't pay for a bunch of parts from mod and a useless feature even if I really want it [01:25:20] TheKosmonaut: np. Ill behave. [01:25:27] the thing I want the most is still green and grey tanks [01:25:29] Fluburtur: yep [01:25:51] Leveller: A breaker bar is just a mechanical tool used to loosing extra tight bolts when power tools dont deliver the necessary torque [01:25:57] But it sounds rather threatening [01:25:58] Fluburtur: If it was something i wanted i would "shut up and take my money". [01:26:01] "GIMME MY BREAKER BAR" [01:26:22] TheKosmonaut: alrighty. We use blowtorches to loosen up the metal here. [01:26:24] :) [01:26:34] or 556 or CLP oil [01:26:44] Leveller: Oh, we can do that too. But only when the breaker bar doesnt work [01:26:48] or if the space is too tight [01:26:50] kk :) [01:27:01] TheKosmonaut: I still like you. [01:27:21] I know how i am as a mod myself. [01:27:29] zero tolerance after first warning. [01:27:32] heh [01:27:47] and i have been GM etc on some major games/communitys. [01:28:01] I was trying to open up a differential yesterday, some idiot put entirely too much sealant around the seams of the domecap [01:28:13] heh [01:28:19] So I took a small chisel, a hammer, and an hour or so under a bigS dodge van [01:28:34] I knew I made it when I got an oil facial [01:28:54] i fear the day i have to open up my old Galaxie with that stuff. [01:28:59] from -64 [01:31:30] Older cars are still easier to deal with though [01:31:38] Less specialized tools back then for stupid bolt placement [01:31:43] Like Range Rovers. [01:32:01] Somehow those Germans place a triple square bolt in a place with 4cm of room all around [01:32:14] yup [01:32:17] And tightened it with the force of a thousand strikes of Thor's hammer [01:32:27] ;D [01:32:41] in my mechanics school I had to grind a tool to get a screw in a chainsaw [01:32:48] speaking of that.. in my hometown we got a statue of thor, hes 2 stags and the hammer. [01:32:55] in a small stream [01:32:56] we also were banging stuff more often than we should [01:33:03] For real. In Sweden. [01:33:16] you have a picture? [01:33:24] also I thought you lived in the middle of nothing [01:33:52] sec. ill google too but try: torshälla Tor staty [01:34:30] Or: Torshälla tors bockar [01:35:04] https://kulturbilder.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/torshalla-2.jpg [01:35:05] lel [01:35:15] in my town there is a plane on top of a tree [01:35:19] since two days [01:35:24] maybe it will become a landmark [01:35:30] heh [01:35:50] Anyhow the Swedish pagan culture still lives here and there. [01:36:03] the statue is from the 60s i think [01:37:52] here we just have a bellow average church [01:54:04] heh [01:54:19] Was wondering why people signed off steam one by one all the time on my list... [01:54:26] its 3am soon [01:55:46] yeah I should go to sleep too [01:57:30] Same. [01:57:38] And google more Sabaton it seems. [01:58:24] Still arguing about Sabaton? [02:02:05] Nah not arguing. [02:02:10] I got a interest now [02:02:22] gotto google more, find out their history etc. [02:02:41] but its 3am and i need to stop sitting here. [02:03:04] I will follow my own advise and get some sleep. Gn. [02:03:23] Night [02:05:04] \ [02:05:06] o [02:15:34] I wonder how my grandma will react to the various burn marks on the ground from my rocket engines [02:19:02] Is it useful to edit and add a note that you are also experiencing a bug, to an issue in the bug tracker for issues with the Status "New"? [02:19:39] not sure what the etiquette is to their redmine instance [02:25:21] Rokker: I found my new flag for KSP https://i.redd.it/vjk7q3nmxjl01.png [02:37:57] I'm still using the old flailomanz flaag [02:43:47] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: IT'S NOT YET YOUR TIME. BUT IT COULD BE. [02:43:53] TheKosmonaut: needs a gun or two [02:44:00] to increase the freedom factor [02:44:09] Rokker: A few Sherman tanks [02:44:26] Moar customers for New Glenn http://spacenews.com/blue-origin-signs-sky-perfect-jsat-as-fourth-new-glenn-launch-customer/ [02:44:44] blorgin [02:45:45] I've also finished all the notes and, "filling in the blanks" for the upcoming Starship Troopers game. As a side note, if I ever have to read that dreadful book again . . . [02:45:51] Supernovy: play any of cornflakes yet [02:46:03] Scolar_Visari: I'm sorry what [02:46:08] that book is great [02:46:16] take your wrongness elsewhere [02:46:18] The book is like Atlas Shrugged, but with power armor. [02:46:36] how dare you [02:46:55] Atlas Couldn't Shrug Due To Armoured Shoulder Plates [02:48:33] Supernovy: Come on you Titans, you wanna live forever? [02:49:49] Scolar_Visari: I'm trying to express my non-committal to living forever but I can't express that particular body language [02:50:08] It's just as well. I'm sure Atlas really didn't want to live forever. [02:52:10] Back on Windows...7. time to add a Steamload of games. hehe [02:52:56] Though I finally did pin down the part in the book where some one is accidentally decapitated when they're being removed from their power armor. [02:54:01] "Lemme just take get you out of there buddy. Hang on and . . . Oops! Awww, shucks. Uh, hey Sarge. Let's not put this in the after action report, shall we?" [03:03:15] Scolar_Visari: dreadful? it's one of my favorites [03:03:23] https://snag.gy/r2D9Pn.jpg [03:03:34] taniwha: The more I read it, the more I appreciate the film as a parody. [03:06:17] Action: Scolar_Visari mutters something about 28th Century ethnocentrism. [03:06:18] the book is a parody [03:08:47] Does anyone here use Windows 7? Heard it was better than 10. [03:08:57] What? I did. Then I switched to 10. [03:09:16] It is my experience that 10 is better, even if my search bar doesn't seem to work. [03:10:25] taniwha: Heinlein appears to have used the book to express his own beliefs. [03:11:19] more like his beliefs on the consequences of compulsory millitary participation [03:12:32] Societal collapse from conscription? [03:12:59] yeah [03:13:15] and a search for warfare [03:14:04] The societal collapse attributed to terrestrial societies in the "XXth Century" was overwhelmingly attributed to failures in punishing, as the book describes, "Juvenile Deliquents". [03:14:56] somebody very much misread that section [03:15:29] Hardly misread. Conscription hardly makes a peep anywhere in the novel, except out of casual derision. [03:16:02] also, not conscription so much as compulsory service for citizinship [03:16:56] but the misreading is all about the "juvenile delinquents", because Dubois (iirc) stated there was no such thing as a JD [03:18:37] Not misreading so much as pointing out he's referencing something that supposedly cannot exist. [03:19:58] the character (I'm pretty sure his name is Dubois, the kid's civics teacher) was stating that JD is an oxymoron [03:20:26] heh, found an arch by accident [03:21:24] I have the book right here, plus notes. He didn't just describe the word as an oxymoron, he went on at length to describe how said individuals, regardless of the term used, weren't adequately punished and it led to Death Wish levels of street crime. [03:21:54] The Federation was like Charles Bronson, in this context. Cleaning up the streets, but with less shooting and more exposition. [03:22:34] that, yes [03:22:51] doesn't mean Heinlein believed or endorsed it [03:23:39] Given what he wrote in some other materials, it seemed he sort of did. [03:25:34] or believed that's what would happen [03:31:44] Though I suppose it would be a lot less of a book if you took out the moralizing chunks . . . [03:34:21] I too once thought Starship Troopers was what Heinlein believed. I'm not so sure now. [03:35:59] especially after learning that a good author will sometimes outright lie (usually through a character) [03:39:30] Man the DLC engines make stock engines look terrible [03:40:14] easily done :/ [03:40:38] taniwha: oooh [03:41:05] The mainsail hurts my eyes [03:41:09] taniwha: Given the context in which the book was written, I wouldn't think that's applicable in this particular case. [03:41:39] Scolar_Visari: it's always applicable, because it means you have to /think/ [03:45:05] taniwha: Given the book's preachy use of strawnmen and Heinlein writing it after getting rather upset about a pause in nuclear weapon's testing, in addition to his later views in support of the book's key contentions (again, Expanded Universe), it probably is safe to say that it is again not applicable in this particular case. [03:47:44] my point is he's not so easy to pin down [03:48:04] What they shoulda done is have the three spherical pods be variants of each other. It doesn't seem too hard to adjust crew capacity with that, but maybe there would be IVA issues. [03:48:05] definite signs of pro-military [03:48:25] Supernovy: IVA switching would be just as easy [03:49:38] also very much "look after the women and children" [03:50:11] but otherwise, I've had to shelve my own beliefs about him [03:50:55] taniwha: have you played with the mission creator at all? [03:51:08] no, did one mission, though [03:51:49] I'm gonna make "Kerbal Defense Program" which means you will have to make missiles at increasing ranges, as well as spy sats, interplanetary launch systems, and even interceptors [03:52:04] I think the interceptors/ASAT would be really hard though [03:52:32] I have yet do successfully hit anything on a ballistic trajectory with another rocket [03:52:36] taniwha: Shelving one's beliefs of the author doesn't really get rid of the heavy handedness of the moral dialogue. To be frank, Heinlein could and did do a much better job with the same environment (such as the inifinitely more readable Space Cadet) [03:53:24] I need to mess around with that I think. [03:53:25] Scolar_Visari: no argument on the heavy handedness [03:53:27] Perhaps I could have a trigger, proximity to X means destruction of both craft [03:55:08] stephen hawking died [03:55:18] Arcan: :( [03:55:26] Really? [03:55:38] though, tbh, I was surprised to learn a year or so ago that he was still alive [03:55:40] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/14/stephen-hawking-professor-dies-aged-76 [03:55:58] Well, there goes a great mind... [03:56:01] taniwha: me too, i did a presentation on him two years ago for high school [03:56:09] taniwha: Very, very, very few people with Lou Gehrigs live anywhere near as long as he did. [03:56:10] crikey, didn't realise he was that old (not bad for suffering from ALS) [03:57:11] Scolar_Visari: thus the surprise before, and lack of surprise (but sadness) now [03:57:21] must be JUST breaking because Yahoo doesn't have it yet. [03:58:03] Draconiator: You know what they also don't have? A decent website anymore! (Rimshot). [03:58:45] Scolar_Visari: anymore? [03:58:59] yahoo never had a decent website [03:59:22] It was semi-decent before the changes to facilitate mobile friendliness. [03:59:36] The Science section even had an astronomy news page! [04:00:46] Action: Scolar_Visari uses time machine https://web.archive.org/web/20090918090701/http://news.yahoo.com:80/science/space-astronomy [04:01:27] Draconiator: BBC broke it three hours ago <_< [04:04:12] Malachite: I think that may be an error. [04:06:10] ah, silly phone lying to me again [04:06:20] either way, rip excellent space man [04:06:56] Malachite: There was a Google search result giving that, but it contradicts the page it was linking! [04:07:00] bleh, FAR isn't working on the gemini pod. =\ [04:07:27] AlonzoTG: So Voskhod then? [04:07:54] seems to work great, feels indestructable on reentry, but no observable defects. [04:08:31] well, the mission I was doing was a/the gemini mission so I had no choice about pod, not terribly fond of the round pods tho. [04:09:01] Ah, yes, but round pods with no escape systems to speak of are a better fit for KSP. [04:09:51] Not that Gemini's escape system would've been very good in practice . . . [04:10:50] AlonzoTG: I'm surprised FAR is working on 1.4 [04:12:10] These stick figures look far more happy then they have any right to be http://www.drewexmachina.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/GT_Abort_1.jpg [04:12:35] I got a handful of crap from 2014 in my install that's still operational... [04:12:52] "So we just have to jump out and we're okay?" "Uh, yeah. Sure, just jump out." [04:13:27] AlonzoTG: I don't think I'd normally put FAR and "a handful of crap" in the same paragraph [04:13:46] Scolar_Visari: better than the alternative [04:14:12] or even the same chapter :) [04:14:22] taniwha: Yes, I agree. Using the actual ejection system would've just may things slow and horrible. [04:15:21] Does Steam limit your downloads or something? I've been trying to get all my gamnes back on here but I can't download anymore. [04:16:04] https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4002/images/fig34.jpg [04:16:11] Draconiator: You *can* set it to. [04:17:30] What's it look like? Did you manually set them to reinstall? [04:22:20] I'm manually installing each one. [04:23:14] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders why their own Steam app is recommending an MMO. [04:23:26] Draconiator: I'm going to guess this is a fresh install of Steam? [04:24:18] heh, this scenario shut off a lot of parts but is letting me use the bulk of my modpack so I'm completely OP'ing it. [04:24:29] Action: Scolar_Visari also ponders why Rome II is still getting DLC. [04:28:10] What's with the non-release date? http://store.steampowered.com/app/810760/Starmans_VR_Experience/ [04:33:10] the novapunch engine FX are borked. =( [04:36:08] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders drawing a crude representation of The Bugs. [04:39:32] ok, the new launch site is 45 degrees north... [04:39:57] Interestingly, the TFCT Rodger Young got its own https://cf.geekdo-images.com/large/img/7gYLDMDvNMxZurbzrjiQP_3uNE8=/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:no_upscale()/pic315945.jpg [04:43:34] Yes, fresh install of Steam. [04:47:03] So you shouldn't have any settings interferring. No downloads in progress at all? [04:49:43] btw, ealier accidental Mun arch: http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4248.png [04:54:53] Mun arches don't real. Nice film studio set! [04:58:02] Hawking's died :( [04:59:33] Action: Scolar_Visari should stage a coup, if only so they can keep the topic updated. [04:59:54] I did that once. Didn't help. [05:01:56] Probably because you collapsed into a stellar remnant. [05:05:34] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to provide Supernovy with a close orbiting stellar companion to donate fuel. [05:06:29] Saw a fascinating talk on modelling giant/WD binaries with accretion discs recently. [05:07:12] Not only may a binary star occlude another star, the WD's accretion disc may occlude itself! [05:08:37] FltAdmVonSpiz: old [05:08:47] WD - ? [05:08:53] white drawr? [05:08:56] *f [05:09:19] white rawr [05:09:24] :3 [05:10:17] I solved my Windows 10 upgrade problem. Win 7 apparently was not activated yet. it SHOULD have activated during setup. [05:15:19] TheKosmonaut: boooooo the japanese went non-aligned in this playthrough [05:15:30] instead of fascist [05:19:52] white dwarf star, yes. [05:24:13] I need Windows 10 because I make KSP videos.\ [05:30:06] that's maybe the only circumstance in which I've ever seen anybody cheer for fascism haha (without being a terrible person) [05:46:03] heeeey our Torx screws work for this, I'm gonna take off the cover of the failing drive and mount it on the wall. heh [05:47:34] take the disc out and use it as mirror. [05:47:40] it has nice polish to it [06:23:55] hehe, this is funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGmwXi4TL3Y [06:23:55] YouTube - Ride of the Valkyries [06:24:01] also the memories of elite 2 [06:25:29] Ah, gotta love OpenGL https://i.imgur.com/XWjLO6d.gifv [06:25:50] lol [06:26:03] horse is going wild [06:26:12] use screen recording softwar [06:26:53] I sent that as a snap [06:26:58] might not have been obvious [06:27:17] but its a tad more work sending a snap from a computer screen recording [06:38:34] Howdy [06:41:13] Action: BadRocketsCo pokes TheKosmonaut because he's bored [06:42:30] hi BadRocketsCo [06:42:32] did you get the DLC? [06:42:48] I had one helluva time trying to land this stupid thing in IVA https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BtMiZGeY/screenshot219.png [06:43:02] Cant see a thing, cant read the instruments very easily either. [06:45:12] Nope. No DLC I am afraid. I'm too poor :D [06:45:22] Maybe when I receive my scholarship. [06:45:34] Plus I don't really play stock anymore... [06:45:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFiGbI17pWk [06:45:48] YouTube - KSP RP-0 #384 MK3 Shuttle Return Flight [06:46:02] > Fires OMS in atmo [06:49:03] TheKosmonaut: I tried going back to stock but it feels really...strange to me. [06:49:19] Yeah it is [06:49:56] oren: oh, nice shuttle! [06:50:07] What's the cost? [06:51:04] BadRocketsCo: dunno, it's not mine [06:51:09] Ooooh [06:51:28] I just watched it without sound, heh. I am in class atm [06:51:31] I just wanted to share one of my favorite KSP youtuber [06:52:33] Aight [06:55:20] I am planning on doing a Venus flyby with an upgraded Saturn V. [06:55:33] I have no idea how to get the trajectory right though. [06:57:01] TheKosmonaut: there was a program that let you calculate those windows. Do you remember its name by any chance? [06:58:13] BadRocketsCo: oh like the really complicated flight paths? [06:58:39] Well yeah, like earth-venus-earth kind of stuff [06:59:45] https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ could try that one [06:59:54] oops that's kerbal [07:00:38] Nvm, I believe I found it [07:01:27] Behold mighty gemini and the massive tita-- huh.. Stock sized launchers are too small https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kGGDNL0v/screenshot220.png [07:02:12] TheKosmonaut: ... [07:03:21] So is making history worth it? [07:03:43] Blaannk: For me it was :) [07:03:45] I never cared about graphics or more rocket parts aside from mods. [07:04:07] TheKosmonaut: hahah. It's...heh. that's why I personaly am unable to go back stock [07:04:15] Once you go RO you never come back [07:04:36] Did they at least take the jank parts out and give me back my large fuel tank? [07:11:19] Blaannk: huh? which large fuel tank was lost? [07:11:34] I could not find the largest fuel tank when I tried out RO one time. [07:11:34] anyway, MFT 5.11.0 is out :) [07:11:53] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/58235-14-modular-fuel-tanks-v5110/ [07:18:14] i hate the stock solar system because its practically impossible to efficiently make a good looking rocket similar to titan or atlas etc [07:18:24] orbital rockets in KSP end up too stubby [07:19:15] holy mother of god it feels like ive been stabbed in the back [07:41:37] Rokker: ides of March got to you [07:42:23] TheKosmonaut: I played way too long in that hoi session [07:42:41] There isn't anything in Making History that I care about that mods don't already provide. [07:43:10] Blaannk: the only interesting thing is the mission planner [07:43:21] Yeah, and I don't care about that. [08:13:13] Rokker, would an ISP nerf do the job? [08:13:26] to make realistic scale with vanilla dV ccalcs [08:21:51] realistic scale requires 7km/s orbital velocities. [08:22:53] Hyratel: at that point just may as well go for real solar system [08:23:45] https://imgur.com/ZxA5iek [08:23:45] https://i.imgur.com/ZxA5iek.gifv [08:24:17] loses pixels every time it's reposted. [08:24:26] The original was 4x as large with no watermarks or blurring. [08:25:11] yes, there is an xkcd about this [08:25:23] https://xkcd.com/1683/ [08:42:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o purpletarget|zzzz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:38:40] are the editor and science facility graphic glitches there in the Windows verisions too? [09:47:43] havent seen anynthing [09:47:54] what do you mean by that? [10:00:42] editor partlist top row [10:00:59] the top half of the icons are not visible [10:01:35] science facility, right hand side icons are not visible, just the bounding boxes [10:02:06] the editor glitch has been reported many times by youtubers for 1.4 [10:04:25] it has been 0 days since the last timeI saw someone use a flip phone [10:06:21] get yourself a flip phone and all day will be day zero [11:33:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:54:54] hi [11:55:12] are u a bot :D [11:55:27] LuapDidap: he is [11:55:31] But hi anyway [11:55:44] Hi xD [11:55:57] It's usually supposed to stop these Guest1234 accounts from -- oh ok then [11:56:12] xDDDDD [12:45:21] http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4249.png [12:49:57] hehe [12:50:01] panzer general kerbals [12:50:10] or any ssi game [12:53:59] heh [13:54:40] taniwha: isn't that from Kethane? My memory is failling me [13:58:07] o/ [13:59:09] Yes that's Kethane [13:59:19] ve2dmn: yes, it is [13:59:32] but the important bit is in the bottom right corner, of course :) [13:59:35] hi, Lyneira [13:59:38] of course [13:59:59] Hey taniwha :) [14:00:58] 'twas kind of funny. I spent about half an hour trying to find the hacky Unity project I'd used to create Kethane's shaders back when 1.1 was released, only to find that I'd committed the project to Kethane's git repository :) [14:00:59] Still modding the game I see :) [14:01:05] yup :) [14:02:35] How has 1.4 been treating you? [14:03:14] amazingly well [14:03:25] I guess you all heard the bad news? [14:03:40] Of Stephen Hawking's passing away? Yeah heard that [14:03:42] ve2dmn: Hawkings? [14:03:48] yeah :/ [14:04:06] yeah, bad news, but he did amazingly well for ALS [14:04:20] and he sure turned the physics world on its head :) [14:04:30] he'll be remembered for a very long time [14:05:30] Worse Pi day ever [14:05:37] https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/973772335537893377 [14:05:37] <neiltyson> His passing has left an intellectual vacuum in his wake. But it's not empty. Think of it as a kind of vacuum energy& https://t.co/WR2TtwbNgh [14:05:53] it's weird that you call it ALS [14:06:08] sandbox: why? [14:06:18] So what's the short version of 1.4? Anything noteworthy in it for vanilla KSP players? [14:06:43] another nail in firespitter's coffin [14:07:02] taniwha, we call it motor neurone disease [14:07:06] it has bugs (surprise surprise) [14:07:38] sandbox: it has several "names" [14:07:52] also Lou Garrig's (sp?) [14:09:28] Ah, I remember Firespitter being useful for electric propeller engines [14:09:48] Not a lot of choice in that department... I think even RD's ducted fans use it? [14:09:49] yeah. MND is the group and ALS is one of them [14:09:58] yeah, well, I mean as a "every mod that wants to do something" fixit thing [14:10:09] "A motor neuron disease (MND) is any of several neurodegenerative disoders that selectively affect motor neurons, the cells that control voluntary muscles of the body." [14:10:09] no need for FStextureSwitch anymore [14:10:21] "They include amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), hereditary spastic paraplegia (HSP), primary lateral sclerosis (PLS), progressive muscular atrophy (PMA), progressive bulbar palsy (PBP) and pseudobulbar palsy. Spinal muscular atrophies (SMA) are sometimes included in the group by some neurologists but it is different disease with clear genetic cause." [14:10:43] Talisar Parts uses the new variants feature [14:10:53] very nicely done, actually [14:10:56] Hawkings got lucky he did not die before 30 [14:11:10] he was expected to die at about 23 or so [14:11:15] iirc [14:11:30] (given 2 years, diagnosed at 21(?)) [14:11:33] yep [14:11:45] 76 :) [14:11:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_neuron_disease [14:12:03] gtg [14:12:38] Good that less mods are needed to do things like texture switching though :) [14:12:53] Anyway. Sorry to bring up the bad news. [14:12:53] mesh switching, too [14:13:00] "Aren't you that physicist that invented gravity?'' [14:13:01] ve2dmn: no worries [14:13:22] very on-topic for this channel, I think [14:14:21] true [14:14:35] unlike... say... the weather :P [14:14:47] "The Motor Neurone Disease Association, of which Prof Hawking had been a patron since 2008, reported that its website had crashed because of an influx of donations to the charity." [14:15:46] sandbox: oh, dear [14:15:56] I bet they don't know whether to laugh or cry [14:16:01] Btw, there is both a Canadian ALS charity AND a Canadian MND charity... [14:16:30] ... they work together because they have different goals [14:17:32] (one funds research, the other give patients tools like wheelchairs) [14:19:51] taniwha: aside from bugs, any work left on mods for 1.4.x ? [14:20:31] (in other words: anything you haven't ever touched yet? ) [14:29:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB60SVvZTEM [14:29:27] YouTube - A Brief Interview with Stephen Hawking [14:31:03] I like the differences between the two starting pods [14:36:02] ve2dmn: I'm not quite sure what you mean [14:36:15] I've got plenty of stuff to do for my mods [14:37:26] new conversion system for EL, sorting out some potential changes to Kethane, would like to implement background scanning for Kethane, my Progeny project, various parts mods, further enhancements to early bird... [14:37:57] however, I just got all my mods updated except EL [14:38:12] ^ ok [14:38:12] still working on that coversion system (game breaking) [14:39:18] The only mod missing for KSP is a radio station. [14:39:35] With a DJ speaking in Kerbal (like a stupid morning show) between music [14:39:36] chatterer could probably be adapted [14:40:14] But then again, I think most games could use a radio station [14:46:09] Man [14:46:16] Why does it take so long to invent the wheel [14:47:20] Japa: it's a wheel suitable for a space program [14:47:30] quite different to regular ground vehicles [14:47:51] (usually, it's the suspension that's a problem) [14:48:10] though there's weight of materials for tire and rim, too [14:49:11] Japa: stick 2 pod together: BAM! you got a wheeled vehicule [14:53:29] although... a vehicule with pods for wheel is the best way to get people sick I guess... [15:20:32] Mat2ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBdfmAcvwQ [15:20:32] YouTube - Divide by 8 Marble Divider - Marble Machine X #28 [15:21:19] Fluburtur: I hate you. I wanted to work for at least 2 hours. Now I have to watch that video. :D [15:21:51] haha [15:22:31] #fail [15:22:49] For the record, I created #fail a long time ago in case someone joins it by mistake. No one ever did [15:30:14] Fluburtur: with so many small details to build I fear he'll never finish the machine [15:30:23] heh [15:30:36] that thing looks like it will be very annoyed by the vibrations [15:31:30] heh I can't wait to hear the song he has planned for it. [15:31:43] well, he wants to do it mechanically. [15:31:58] I'd use electronics. :D [15:33:07] you do realise that he's basically making a very complicated children's music box? [15:33:29] using marbles is the big mechanical challenge here [15:35:19] Well check out the old one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q [15:35:19] YouTube - Wintergatan - Marble Machine (music instrument using 2000 marbles) [15:35:30] I did, and it's very impressive [15:36:19] If the point was *just* to make music, automated piano have been around for over 100 years and do things more simply. [15:36:42] but the point is not *just* to make music but to make music with marbles [15:36:52] can't wait to see the finished product [15:36:56] well, he wants to use marbles and wants his audiance to see the machine working [15:37:19] but it's just crazy what he's doing there [15:37:44] It still looks like many of the important parts aren't even designed yet [15:39:05] If he had not built a previous machine I would say he's crazy... but since he did, I'll just say he's over-ambitious. [15:39:40] He seem to have the technique and the science pretty much nailed [15:39:57] it's mostly a question of how long (and how good) he want to make the thing [15:40:10] An impressive feat to say the least [15:40:13] I'm looking around in 1.4.1 and where are the new features? [15:40:27] hehe [15:40:29] Draconiator: look under the hood [15:40:33] new engine [15:40:36] new particle systems [15:41:09] not just the engine, they probably changed the oil too [15:41:11] i mean 1.4.1 is a minor fix [15:41:22] It has that 'new car smell' [15:41:22] 1.4 has the personal parachutes [15:42:21] hah [15:42:31] i am a great fan of your theorem [15:43:02] I meant the mission builder, and the new missions [15:43:11] Draconiator: that's only in the DLC [15:43:12] that is in the expansion, not in 1.4 [15:45:25] And apparently....kerbals designed the Pamnther engine after a hairdryer. [15:45:47] Draconiator: the new sound is not very popular [15:46:29] Draconiator: that's what I said! [15:46:40] All jet engines sound like hairdryers now [15:47:05] They could've made it great. Spinning them up and having them idling at 0 % throttle consuming a little bit of fuel [15:47:12] but nooooooo, they made hairdryers :P [15:48:35] they should have at least made some lore to go with it....it would make sense considering these are Kerbals lol [15:50:09] maybe hybrid jet engines. They first make electric energy from the fuel and the turbine part is fully electric, which explains why it can throttle from 0 to 100 % and sounds like a hair dryer. [15:50:11] Draconiator: in case you haven't noticed, jet engines are oversized hair driers anyway [15:50:21] or vacuum cleaners [15:50:33] but they don't make a vacuum [15:50:40] they rely on having air coming in! ;) [15:50:54] so do vacuum cleaners (they're misnamed) [15:51:19] black holes are the true vacuum cleaners [15:51:23] I know. That's why we call them dust suckers. :D [15:52:08] ve2dmn: well, they do clean the vacuum [15:52:17] in their immediate vicinity [15:52:26] Not exactly. [15:52:27] taniwha: yes. Black hole suck [15:52:43] (if the sun suddenly collapsed to a black hole, we'd notice only because it would become dark) [15:53:43] Mat2ch: we use the terms 'Suckers' or 'Eletric brooms' for vacuum cleaners... [15:54:08] ve2dmn: in which langauge? :) [15:54:15] Time is too compressed around black holes for much matter to enter before it gets jostled out. [15:54:36] Mat2ch: Which regionalism you mean :P [15:55:11] well, the dust sucker is a direct translation from the German word Staubsauger [15:55:28] so I'm wondering in which languace you're using "electric broom" [15:55:29] And I referenced 'Aspirateur' [15:55:55] And 'Balayeuse' [15:56:12] (which are mostly regionalisms I think) [15:57:38] Words aren't invented in a vaccum :D [15:57:39] Aspirator is a technical term here for the dust removal in flour mills [15:57:45] Draconiator: all jets have silly sound [15:57:53] in fact they are so bad i hate them [16:00:05] Aspiro is Latin for... a lot of things [16:03:45] tea, earl grey, hot [16:05:14] hah marble machine [16:05:22] First you've got to build a spaceship. [16:05:33] No spaceship, no replicator, no earl grey, hot. [16:06:07] https://i.gyazo.com/0c9b964f39aa0f8a634624da3312095e.png - Jebediah again.... [16:06:10] i have the tea now [16:06:41] and where is my spaceship? [16:07:19] buy a diy kit [16:07:41] maybe the steam rocket flat earther sells you his design [16:08:35] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Introducing Scolar Visar's, "Starship Troopers: Downfall"! Insert 25 cents to continue. [16:08:37] But I want one with a warp drive. [16:09:01] Euro cents or dollar cents? [16:09:29] Mat2ch: Kerbal Funds. [16:09:45] percents :) [16:09:46] Action: Scolar_Visari notes Kerbal Funds are actually repurposed Chuck E. Cheese tokens. [16:09:57] Why is Steam saying I need to pay for the expansion when they promise it'd be free for early adopters? [16:10:13] Draconiator: when did you buy the game? [16:10:16] Draconiator: Maybe the developer's changed their mind? [16:10:28] Mat2ch: Just be sure you're prepared. [16:11:39] I bought the game...December 29th, 2014, during 0.90 [16:11:46] not early enough [16:12:59] Huh, my DLC was retroactively added to 2013. [16:13:05] hehe [16:13:07] Ah, I thought they said April of 2015 [16:13:09] April 2013 and there is a help article for it on the forums. [16:13:12] go back in ti-i-im [16:13:14] e [16:13:27] My bad. [16:13:31] Althego: It's just as well. I recall buying KSP before there was even a Mun. [16:13:33] I was about 2 months late. Welp such things happen. ^^ [16:14:26] Action: Scolar_Visari is waiting for a Chuck E. Cheese token. [16:15:11] johnny b goode token [16:15:39] Good enough! [16:16:04] I've never seen a Chuck E. Cheese in person [16:16:06] I hope you remember how to play Zork, or otherwise this is going to get really silly really quick [16:16:27] ve2dmn: Imagine that, if you were an adult, what Hell would be like. Chuck E. Cheese is that Hell. [16:17:04] It's literally Five Nights at Freddy's. [16:17:22] I know what it is, just never seen one [16:18:24] You're a fortunate person. I've sent five infiltrator units into Chuck E. Cheese years ago. None came back alive. [16:18:56] I've seen a Cheesecake Factory in person once [16:19:31] It is the conclusion of our research branch that Chuck E. Cheese eateries exist in the space between multiverses, which could account for the breakdown in the passage of time among patrons and why they stay, "kids". [16:20:09] A similar effect was observed with Toys-R-Us merchants, but our campaign of corporate espionage recently put them in a death spiral. [16:20:28] Toys-R-Us survived in Canada [16:20:44] Don't worry. They'll be taken care of in due time. [16:20:57] All those poor children will finally be able to grow up. [16:22:39] You're standing in front of a white house with a boarded front door. [16:22:43] I'm trying to find a parallel with a local franchise, but I can't find any... [16:23:06] Scolar_Visari: look [16:23:30] in the blue corner, tokamak, the undisputed champion, in the red corner, the young titan, stellarator. who would win? [16:24:23] You open your eyes. It was a dream. You fell asleep in the drop pod as was hypnotically suggested, but the sound of your CO has woken you up. It is dark. [16:26:55] lies. My CO left me [16:28:21] The CO is in the middle bank of pods aboard the TFTC Alvin York, you are in the starboard set far behind 2nd squads sergeant. [16:30:00] A light comes on within your suits helmet, its red glow casting shadows across the various, deactivated instruments. [16:35:25] There's a shuddering, and you suddenly feel like you've gained a ton of weight. The ship is braking hard. [16:35:58] * take diet [16:37:17] You decide not to eat the food ration sticking out in your helmet. They taste like nothing in particular, anyway, as designed by the brightest minds of the Federation. [16:39:33] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:39:34] The nearly ten Gs of acceration are complete. The ship has made orbit around KLENDATHU. You don't have time to ponder as much before your suit's final systems finally activate and the heads up display finally boots up. Tactical information on your target area of operations immediately appear. [16:45:25] A green light begins periodic blinking. It's almost time, the ship is appearing its target point in orbit. [16:55:16] Congrats: You've failed to consult the theater map. It's just as well, as one wonders why a corporal would even have access to a map of a planet riddled by caverns and tunnels. The light turns solid green, it's time to drop. [16:56:57] The port, center and starboard dispensers begin to eject their payload at once. Once every second, a pod is loaded into the breach and hurdled into space by magnetic coils. The G-forces nearly match those of the Alvin York's decceleration burn, albeit more briefly. [16:58:17] The atmosphere doesn't hit your drop pod hard, but you eventually feel the weight return to your body as the air of Klendathu does its work and the ablative first layer burns off along with several thousands of seconds of velocity. [16:59:41] Your suit and you are buffeted around in the pod like candy in a pinata for what seems like an eternity, and you once again feel a brief but powerful increase in weight as the drogue chut opens up and the first layer of your drop pod is dispensed into the air to act as a radar reflective penetration aid. [17:00:59] Surprisingly, your next three chute deployments are uneventful. The radio is silent, per orders for deployment, but your map supposedly indicates the desired platoon spread of half a mile between each Cap Trooper. [17:02:31] In time, the final pod layer is jettisoned with explosive bolts and you are able to resolve the landscape while still a mile up from the surface of Klendathu. It is, as it was three years ago, an uninteresting desert broken up only by the enormous scorch marks of hydrogen bombs dropped during Operation Bughouse. [17:05:23] Your suit finally arrests your descent with a hard burst of jump-jet thrust. You have landed, the other two members of your fire team awaiting orders. [17:05:58] with dramatic music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGmwXi4TL3Y [17:05:58] YouTube - Ride of the Valkyries [17:06:06] (did i link this already?) [17:06:09] i think i did [17:08:43] "Corporal? What is that!?" Came the voice of Sgt. Baardsen. "You were instructed to maintain silence until hailed!" There is some swearing in Baardsen's native Norwegian (you guess) before a long sigh. "Luckily for you, the L.T.'s out of range and I don't have time for straighten you out. Assemble your fire team and meet me at the rally point." [17:15:18] bacon frying at albert two, square black one [17:21:15] "On the bounce, sir!" pipes in the voices of privates Guan and Lesley. The two marauder armor-wearing softies easily bound over the rocky landscape in as few jumps as a veteran, but are disappointed to see there was indeed no shifting of the ground on the surface. [17:22:16] did you turn this into some kind of starship troopers mud? [17:22:28] IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A STARSHIP TROOPERS MUD. [17:22:32] lol [17:22:57] #KSPOfficial was designed for this very purpose, in fact, I only *wanted* you to think it was for actually discussing the game! [17:24:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/423531680108773387/20180225013403_1.jpg [17:24:51] doesnt look very good [17:25:05] The voice of Sergeant Baardsen interrupts your fire-team reunion. "Corporal, recon in orbit just ID-ed a possible entrance site half a mile from your position. You're to take your fireteam and check it out while we complete our grid sweep." [17:25:31] Fluburtur: This is fine. Everything is fine. [17:27:05] eh,, these people, why would anybody want to make a selfie on the top of a vargo train? [17:27:08] *cargo [17:27:13] (yes, on died) [17:27:33] 25 kV [17:28:04] for the darwin award [17:28:49] http://www.zastavki.com/pictures/640x480/2012/Funny_wallpapers_Strange_Evolution_034622_29.jpg [17:29:17] stephen hawking died today. but i didnt know this was the birthday of einstein too [17:29:35] Would you like to know more? [17:30:01] evolution does not progress with hopeful mosnters [17:32:20] Althego: I was searching for this one: http://all-funny.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Darwin-Award.png [17:32:34] hehe [17:32:39] and the stixk is a selfie stick [17:33:26] Althego: Evolution always progresses. Unless you're dealing with a population of perfect clones. [17:33:44] but not with hopeful monsters [17:33:48] Althego: this is a site devoted to 'last selfie'... [17:34:11] this train climbin is not a new thing [17:34:27] young people were doing it long before mobile phones [17:34:47] yes, but now you have the picture taken before the fall [17:35:56] i wouldnt even go in a few meters range of such a cable without a visible grounding. but you dont have to be an electrical engineer to know it is dangerous [17:37:12] https://sites.google.com/site/georgetowndarwinawards/_/rsrc/1460931070875/config/customLogo.gif?revision=4 [17:37:36] the inventor of the thing (forgot the name) died like this [17:37:49] Segway? [17:37:52] that [17:38:38] Fact: The inventor of the sprinkler died in their house when their room flooded and they drowned. [17:40:04] Untrue Fact: Nobel died of dynamite [17:40:10] Does procwings work with ksp 1.4? [17:42:10] Fact: The Wright brothers did not invent the first airplane, but instead stole the idea from a time traveling pterodactyl. [17:43:36] Fact: we are all time travelling [17:43:52] what is even better, we are all space time travelling [17:43:55] with c [17:44:11] if you move in space, the time direction decreases [17:44:14] to compensate [17:44:52] Well... the sun moves and we move with it... [17:45:06] makes very little difference in the time speed [17:45:13] unless you place your point of reference on yourself, making you the center of the universe [17:45:28] also everything you see around you moves with earth, so they all experience the same ffect [17:45:34] Fact: Time only moves sideways. Attempting to move forward in time will result in like matter occupying the same space and a JCVD paradox resolution. [17:46:03] jean claude van damme? [17:46:13] dam [17:46:18] there was a timecop or something with the thing [17:46:53] Jean Claude van Damme will seperate the paradox with the splits or a roundhouse kick. [17:47:23] Jean Claude van Damme vs. Chuck Norris is another paradox. [17:47:28] hehe [17:47:32] According to the HHGTTG, time travelling was invented at all point in time at the same time [17:47:39] hehe [17:48:23] Fact: Chuck Norris is in fact unable to raise his legs and must rely on body doubles for all stunts and acting. [17:49:10] he is retired, to help his wife or something [17:49:27] He does have some business ventures going [17:49:29] Fact: Chuck Norris never retired from acting because he could not act. [17:49:33] and he is like 80 [17:49:37] Through a strange coincidence, I know his nephew [17:49:49] plus he has a range in Navasota which is basically spitting distance from me :) [17:49:52] ranch* [17:49:56] most people are happy at that age if they can move [17:50:55] Fact: Once human beings turn 80, they may harness the power of senior citizen discounts to telekinetically levitate themselves to any destination. [17:51:20] btw the acting... remember the steven segal emotion chart? :) [17:52:28] Fact: Steven Seagal was born Steven Seagulls and actually made up of multiple seagulls operating a human costume. [17:52:59] hehe [17:53:02] Anyone know what's with MechJeb's landing guidance not firing the engines or doing anything in land at target mode? [17:53:05] I had the impression he was 'Steve and Seagull' [17:53:32] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc [17:53:32] YouTube - Thunderstruck by Steve'n'Seagulls (LIVE) [17:54:08] Fact: Seagulls are proficient in seven hundred and twenty-two ways of lethal martial arts. however, lacking hands, they cannot crack necks. [17:54:17] dlrkdesktop: does it happens with all rockets? [17:54:30] Yep [17:54:38] Land somewere works fine [17:55:06] File a bug? [17:55:06] But land at target, it says "performing course correction" but doesn't actually fire the engines [17:55:16] I'm not sure if it's my user error [17:55:19] ve2dmn: It's not a bug. It's a feature. [17:56:00] it's not a bug, it's an arachnid [17:56:07] I'm trying to figure out how to compress a video so I can ask about it clearly lol [17:56:42] Fact: Arachnids are actually tiny, eight-limbed clones of Jeff Goldblum that have been condemned to spin webs. [17:57:00] life.. finds a way. [17:58:50] Fact: The part of Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park was originally meant to be portrayed by a telepathic gorilla, but test audiences for the original cut found this was too realistic a proposition. [18:01:01] This is what's happening: https://streamable.com/wky7f [18:01:30] Has anybody mentioned that crazy brain-uploading futurist CA startup here yet? [18:01:30] not a bug, is rachnera from everyday monster girls :) [18:01:49] SnoopJeDi: No. I suppose we'll be waiting twenty more years for that to happen? [18:01:56] SnoopJeDi: that is 100% fatal? [18:02:23] that's the one [18:02:33] Scolar_Visari, they're pursuing VC right now AFAIK [18:02:46] but yes they will probably waste a billion dollars of VC and then go bankrupt [18:02:54] ± a $600 juicer [18:03:15] SnoopJeDi: Perhaps they should go the route of Kurzweil and sell books to fund their operation? [18:03:42] Scolar_Visari: They kill you and take a mapping of your brain so that a clone of you *may* in the future be the basis an AI [18:03:56] k What if Kurzweil / doesn't make it? / What if all the switches get stuck on DESTROY? k [18:04:07] ve2dmn: That sounds less like Total Annihilation patterning and more like reading some one's diary. [18:04:27] But with most of the pages missing. [18:04:33] it's a super crazy idea, but they are upfront about the 100% fatal [18:04:56] Are they upfront about the failure rate? [18:05:03] 100% [18:05:08] Depends on what success means [18:05:18] The startup itself is basically just "we will 'preserve' your brain" [18:05:21] "Well . . . Our patient is now dead, so I guess the operation was A SUCCESS!" [18:05:26] not at all contingent on anything being done after the fact [18:05:39] It's as much nonsense as cryogenics [18:05:41] Preservation of human tissue is iffy. Hence the lack of cryogenic suspension. [18:05:45] think cryonics [18:06:00] Action: SnoopJeDi smacks Scolar_Visari with a heat exchanger [18:06:10] Heck, after a while, any biological matter is going to break down into stuff. [18:06:41] Scolar_Visari: this is more like: we will slice up your brain on tiny crytal plates [18:06:41] The technology could have interesting implications for long-term storage of samples for neuroscience, but...MRI is already really really good? [18:07:03] but all of this is pretending like Silicon Valley's models are coupled to reality [18:07:15] ve2dmn: So like a diary with missing pages and the pages that remained scattered out of order every sentence. [18:07:23] SnoopJeDi: *shocking* [18:08:01] The startup's premise is also the plot of Front Mission, amusingly enough. [18:08:43] The bad guys took the brain matter of captured pilots, placed them on to computer chips and used them as AI for the game's giant robots. [18:10:50] that reminds me, I should watch Foxfire [18:10:52] whatever you do, don't start the surface driller when in time warp. [18:11:11] err, Firefox* [18:11:56] SnoopJeDi: The Clint Eastwood spy thriller? [18:12:04] that's the one [18:12:59] I think that also has Moff Tarkin in it. [18:13:19] NGC3982: why? [18:15:32] Scolar_Visari: it's GRAND Moff Tarkin [18:16:30] ve2dmn: it went off in a massive explosion [18:16:31] ve2dnm: Dying results in an automatic demotion. [18:16:43] i wish i could make the drills autostart when they receive power :(. [18:17:01] Scolar_Visari: you misspelled 'promotion' [18:18:48] ve2dmn: You mispelt, "Arrogance". [18:20:13] :D [18:20:15] Thrawn > Tarkin [18:20:23] I agree 100% [18:20:31] At least he did stuff other than gloat. He gloated while beating you! [18:20:55] And when he lost, he lost with dignity [18:21:09] well... the battle I read at least [18:21:10] It was artful, you could say. [18:21:16] yes [18:21:36] Zahn Thrawn is a little cardboardy (caveat: I've only read those 3 books), but still great. [18:21:49] or I guess I mean old Thrawn, the new one is by Zahn too right? [18:21:57] SnoopJeDi: That would make him 231% superior than most Star Wars villains. [18:22:26] Star Wars sets low bars [18:22:29] Action: Scolar_Visari mutters something about moustache twirling villains with equal measures of brutality and incompetance. [18:22:37] You should know, JeDi. [18:23:00] holy crap, I think you just taught my why I camel-cased my nick 15+ years ago [18:23:10] it matches the emperor's enunciation [18:23:46] Action: Scolar_Visari earns 15 XP for successful use of telepathic nostalgia [18:24:05] A couple more perks and I'll be able to finally obtain the Inception perk. [18:24:15] I mean also because CaMeLCaSe is KoOl but that has to be part of it [18:25:36] Hrm . . . I suppose with the new life action films and series coming out, I don't think it's too much to hope for a series that has as nuanced villain? [18:26:04] Like, an Imperial officer who sincerely belives they're doing the right thing before they come to grips with the reality that they're still working for space Nazis [18:27:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Zarthus' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '-v Zarthus' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:03] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v Zarthus' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:03] Hail Zarthus. [18:28:37] Also: A live action series set in a cantina. Like Cheers, but with aliens and space fascists breaking into the bar. [18:29:27] after the last movie i wouldnt expect anything from star wars [18:30:22] Psht, the last movie was the best preciesly because it was unexpected! [18:30:38] I thought the slicer character was fairly nuanced [18:30:48] stupidest error message: unexpected exception [18:31:07] Action: Scolar_Visari still distinctly recalls that the original trilogy simply wasn't as good as people remembered, assuming they all fell alseep through Empire Strikes Back. [18:31:16] hehe [18:31:24] Return of Jedi is best star wars. [18:31:36] IV is a masterpiece imo [18:31:43] but childhood me loved VI the most :) [18:31:46] so be it, jedi [18:31:49] tzzzz [18:32:24] Solo should have some grey morality [18:32:33] he shot first [18:32:38] SnoopJeDi: We shall see what happens with the upcoming prequel. [18:32:40] and Rogue One definitely did with Saul Guerrero [18:32:55] or whatever his name was [18:32:57] SnoopJeDi: Heck, the leads also had their rough spots. [18:33:09] Saw Gerrera lmao I cannot keep his name straight [18:33:16] I saw what you did there. [18:34:00] Scolar_Visari, agreed, the one silver lining of the jedi/sith inanity for me is that the jedi are obstinate religious zealots [18:34:02] Action: Scolar_Visari seems to be driven to franchise exceptions that fans hate the most. They like MechWarrior Dark Age, they hate Deep Space 9, etc. [18:34:17] wait what [18:34:28] do star trek fans hate ds9? :( [18:34:29] SnoopJeDi: If there is one thing The Old Republic did well, it's demonstrating some of that. [18:34:33] NGC: No, but I do. [18:34:39] what, who hates ds9 [18:34:41] I . . . I cannot stand to watch it. [18:34:42] all of it? [18:34:45] ALL OF IT. [18:35:02] It's like Babylon 5, but a hammier lead and no Ambassador Kosh. [18:35:04] cool. [18:35:07] There's a lot of trimming that could be done to DS9 (I'm looking at you, finale), but I liked it [18:35:44] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:35:55] I also tend to look down upon people who thought TESIV and TESV were, "dumbed down". I played Morrowind, man, it wasn't *that* good. [18:36:46] Combat and spells were all kind of weaksauce in Morrowind, and those NPCs never moved. [18:37:15] Scolar_Visari: the story was dumbed dumb, but the combat was leveled up [18:37:54] Morrowind was itself dumbed down: There was originally going to be an option to join the Sixth House [18:38:08] i really enjoyed ds9 as a refreshing thing together with tng [18:38:24] but the end got a bit boring [18:38:27] NGC: There is only one Star Trek and The Next Generation is its sydnicated franchise. [18:38:34] i tell you an other heresy. i like the st ent intro :) [18:38:42] it was un-star trek [18:38:47] but i actually like it [18:39:05] and when they made it more pumped up, i didnt like that [18:39:07] Action: Scolar_Visari is also fueled by the displeasure some fans express with Discovery. Their tears literally power Visari's fuel cells. [18:39:26] Althego: its been a looong time. getting from here to there. [18:39:33] Particularly when some of them seem to have never watched any other Star Trek series . . . [18:39:33] i like discovery [18:39:47] we don't need to gatekeep it. [18:39:55] NGC: All the reviews I've read of it that aren't, ahem, "salty", have expressed it's too good for the streaming service it's on. [18:40:11] hmm scott rocket video [18:40:17] i really enjoyed it [18:40:23] the pilot was rubbish :(. [18:40:24] Althego: Scott "Rocket" Manley? [18:40:28] yes, i am slow, but it happened at dawn, and i didnt have time to look at yt [18:40:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHtwUT5CoZE [18:40:42] YouTube - The Real Rocket Engines Of Kerbal Space Program: Making History [18:41:00] Althego "YouTube Link" MacTavish [18:41:37] NGC3982 "Intermediate Spiral" Herschel [18:42:01] mactavish? macintosh and tovarish? or what [18:42:12] Scolar_Visari: :). [18:42:41] It's like if a Macintosh had offspring with a TV. [18:42:52] google givees call of duty. never played any [18:43:33] I should watch some discovery [18:43:46] https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/atmosphericheating.PNG <- when looking at atmospheric heating trough the interior, its rather pretty., [18:43:54] Scolar_Visari "Name finder" Webb [18:44:10] WHY DO I GET TWO LAST NAMES? [18:44:31] because you are extra special [18:44:32] webbbbb [18:45:10] http://www.warpology.com/k/nocauseforalarm.png [18:45:53] Besides, we all know that it's actually Scolar "(waving grasping appendage shade of red bioluminescence angry gurlge)" Visari [18:46:06] feeling a bit too hot? here, have some view from outside: https://i.redd.it/ex7torb0frl01.jpg [18:46:10] not purple tentacle? [18:46:41] ve2dmn: that looks scandinavian. [18:46:46] Althego: Purple tentacle!? Wash your vocal communication system out! [18:46:55] from day of the tentacle [18:46:59] NGC3982: close, yet SO FAR [18:47:21] ve2dmn: so canada. [18:47:43] Of course [18:48:04] ..nextlaunch [18:48:20] ...in 2 days? [18:48:28] Fluburtur: Space has been canceled, no more launches. [18:48:29] long march [18:48:36] probably no stream [18:51:40] It is a long march to China, after all. [18:53:20] teal'c, how far is --- ? several billion miles o'neil [18:57:05] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to feed of the tears and fears of 80s rock bands. [18:57:21] what happened to them? [18:57:25] (they are dying out slowly) [19:01:27] i could use some robotic arms/limbs/motors kinda mod [19:01:29] And I'll stop pretending I work here and actaully start to work [19:01:32] any suggestions? [19:01:41] are there anything else than ir? [19:03:49] NGC3982: forgot to mention that picture earlier was from this morning [19:08:21] ve2dmn: im in northern skandinavia. we had snow until this week-ish. [19:10:52] I can't wait for spring to arrive [19:18:31] I hate snowwwwwwwwwwwww [19:18:39] i hate cold [19:18:43] Draconiator: it's not that bad [19:18:45] i am solar powered [19:19:14] I hate humid heat waves more then I hate cold [19:19:40] if it's too hot, there is a limit to the number of clothing I can remov [19:20:05] Hot and humid I don't do too well with either. [19:20:18] luckily that rarely happens here [19:20:24] if it is hot, it is dry hot [19:20:53] Where ya from Al? [19:33:12] you can call me al :) [19:33:18] i am from hungary [19:37:51] hi all. question - do you think mods will be available for 1.4 making history? [19:38:00] obviously [19:38:05] will take some time [19:38:07] modders are working right now [19:38:26] mostly to make sure it doesn't break [19:38:38] the expansion it even explicitly supports mods by required mod list [19:39:54] Thx its fun without the mods but i do miss some [19:40:51] i still need to finish the 1.3.1 career. and my throat terribly hurts [19:41:55] Althego: same, but LS make things MUCH more complicated [20:12:24] I have to say, I didn't realize how much I depended on KER until this update [20:12:43] i've been falling back on my TI-84 [20:12:55] Haha [20:13:01] I've been leaning on a spreadsheet [20:13:27] i am usually just using apcalc [20:13:38] for inflight calculations, lf and o are .005 tons/lunit [20:13:40] unit* [20:13:59] so just multiply those numbers by .005 and you get the difference between wet/dry mass [20:43:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:43:37] https://i.gyazo.com/2cb4d295751822b547d3fa16f9fb6791.png - Lets see what I can do with this stock thing. [20:44:33] huge wheels [20:44:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/423582211800039434/20180314214409_1.jpg [20:44:42] hehe [20:44:50] aim for the stars [20:45:02] the kraken ate it [20:47:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/423582993970626581/20180314214515_1.jpg [20:48:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:48:58] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:49:25] climb, climb now! (tcas) [20:49:38] (when you hear this you have like 1 second left) [20:56:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/423585152950599680/20180314215549_1.jpg [20:56:44] lolwhat [20:56:53] https://i.gyazo.com/9c3b9634d7a9abdb7e825ea8e2d119ad.png - kinda resembles a F-15 now [20:56:54] where is t he kerbal [20:57:03] inside [20:57:26] Draconiator have you ever seen a f15? [20:57:34] who dare ping me [20:57:47] Draconiator: I'm sorry what [20:58:43] that looks, at best like an F-20 [20:58:46] if you squint [20:59:12] Althego, actually, TCAS RAs are generated between 15 to 35 seconds and the expected response time is 5 seconds for full compliance with RA [21:00:14] Action: Rokker goes back to dreaming about planes [21:01:55] Fluburtur: what game is that with the IL-2 [21:01:56] maybe seemed less when i was testing it :9 [21:02:10] Rokker it is IL-2 [21:02:18] luckily no such problems now [21:02:19] Fluburtur: the newest one? [21:02:28] stalingrad I think [21:02:46] Fluburtur: oh, did I tell you about the Frenchy planes I saw while at Pima the other week? [21:02:51] no [21:03:28] Fluburtur: they had a Sud Caravelle and a Dassault Mystere IV [21:03:37] nice [21:04:27] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:04:55] Fluburtur: also I saw like 8 to 10 planes flying because they do heritage flight certification at the afb next door [21:05:12] so I saw some really awesome new and old planes fly ovet [21:05:25] nice [21:05:40] also why do kerbal spaghettify and get eaten by the kraken so much [21:05:46] since the last update [21:05:57] new engine? [21:06:01] idk [21:06:16] I hope they won't be like "yo buy the dlc it fixes that" [21:06:22] haha [21:06:23] because I will burn my compuer then [21:06:42] Fluburtur: now now, they are owned by take two, not ea [21:07:26] yeah and do I want cancer or malaria? [21:09:17] Fluburtur: some of the pics suck but dang this was a great air museum https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1gFaL3aLG53i7Lx5Pt-ywEfKwX0Bhy5Xn [21:11:16] is that a beech dc18? [21:11:20] it has weird windows [21:12:20] Fluburtur, they would never put core bug fixes in a DLC [21:12:37] Deddly: it's not a good buiness model... [21:12:47] ...yet some do it [21:12:51] I exepct a bugfix soon then [21:13:53] ve2dmn, well, they have reassured us on several occasions that it won't happen with KSP [21:14:05] but well you know how I feel about this dlc [21:14:28] Fluburtur, if there's an open bug report and it's reproduceable, perhaps there will be a fix. You have 1.4.1? [21:14:35] Deddly: I assume you are right. [21:14:36] it sounds like politicians [21:14:39] yeah [21:14:54] when kerbals jump from planes at high speed that spaghettify and explode [21:15:33] Fluburtur: Make Youtube video of it => profit! [21:15:40] Is that a big deal? I mean... spaghettify+explode isn't all that much different to just puffing into smoke like they are supposed to [21:15:43] im not danny [21:15:44] They die either way [21:15:54] but I don't want them to die [21:15:59] put t hat annoying music under it what is used by danny [21:16:02] I want to do extreme sports [21:17:39] Fluburtur, I don't think Kerbals dying after jumping out of a high-speed plane can be considered a bug [21:17:55] they wouldn't die if they weren't goign spaghetti [21:19:24] Eh? Kerbals have always died under the circumstances you describe [21:19:43] no [21:19:49] If they don't, that would be considered a bug [21:19:52] jumping out of higgh speed planes? [21:19:57] they just fell off [21:20:06] im talking 400-600m/s [21:21:35] So your complaint is that hitting the ground at supersonic speeds is dangerous? [21:21:44] not hitting the ground [21:21:51] AH [21:21:53] going spaghetti as soon as they are out of the plane [21:21:58] AH! [21:22:04] deadly air [21:22:04] OK that makes much more sense [21:22:24] https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3fbrg3/is_there_a_reason_why_the_arm_is_always_missing/ read the first comment thread up to the comment of IAmAWizard_AMA, haha [21:22:54] Fluburtur, I imagine that's something that will come up a lot now that we have Kerbal paragliders [21:23:17] well they can't use it if they are killed by a bug before [21:23:44] ve2dmn: Deadly spaghetti, more like [21:24:33] APlayer: ¯\_(Ä)_/¯ [21:24:48] ¯_(Ä)_/¯ [21:26:17] Fluburtur, mods? [21:26:23] no [21:27:24] What are the best lifesupport mods [21:27:25] Boring people, noone wants mods [21:27:28] since kerbalism is ded [21:27:35] N70: Kerbalism on 1.3 [21:27:41] it's broken on 1.4 [21:27:49] mod's coder hasn't been seen in half a year [21:27:53] Use 1.3, because that's the best LS mod :P [21:28:09] N70: be patient, someone will update it [21:28:11] I haven't tried 1.4 or MH yet. I wonder if anyone else has experienced that, Fluburtur. Do you get it with a variety of cockpits at different altitudes? [21:28:24] Also, ShotgunNinja left a few times like this already, he will probably return one day [21:28:42] mk1 inline between 0 and 2000m so far [21:28:53] what, shotgun ninja? what is next, laser zombie? [21:29:08] Second best LS mod, but not comparable to Kerbalism, would be TACLS, I guess [21:29:17] Althego: ShotgunNinja is the dev of Kerbalism [21:29:25] I use USI-LS but it does not compare [21:29:48] USI-LS was made for colonization [21:30:11] Can't really use it stand-alone (well, yes, you can, but things get weird) [21:30:26] Fluburtur, I would be interested to know if the problem is unique to that cockpit [21:30:26] right [21:30:52] seems like it is from the kerbal bouncing off the side of the plane [21:31:22] Fluburtur, sounds likely. F3 might confirm that [21:31:25] Kerbaghetti [21:31:42] just says "destroyed from exess G" [21:31:51] because that's what the kraken does [21:31:56] That sounds like a typical Kraken to me [21:32:09] Disable G-limits? [21:32:16] need more Krakensbane [21:32:38] Fluburtur, again, try another craft with another cockpit? [21:33:03] I tried a few but they all had the same cockpit [21:33:15] also I tried ejecting one from the external command deat [21:33:52] seat* [21:34:00] Fluburtur, you could try with any cockpit stuck on an SRB [21:34:03] Command death is more appropriate, really :P [21:34:05] So simple to test [21:36:28] Anyway, guys, I am off for today [21:36:36] See you tomorrow! [21:37:02] Seeya APlayer [21:42:20] Looks like kOS has been updated for 1.4 [21:45:41] Nice [22:48:21] soooo it turns out that...a hybrid drive is awesome for gaming. [22:49:13] Draconiator: yes. Yes it is. did you manage to save you old data? [22:49:19] Yes. [22:50:16] External 160GB drive. hehe [22:50:23] Does the MechJeb land at target only work from orbit, rather than in-flight? [22:52:49] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:56:19] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [22:56:19] Would be nice to have mechjeb landing work when you're already landed, just hop over somewhere else... [22:56:31] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:07:43] ElliottK: I mean, you just need to pop up to get thst to happen right? [23:13:22] Action: darsie rolled from Minmus lowlands to slopes :). [23:55:18] Sorry, Rokker, I mean somewhere else that you can specify. Of course if you can land from just a quick pop up, that would work, I've never tried however. [23:57:07] Fluburtur: the museum has moved the Memphis Belle into the museum :D [23:57:12] yay for more planes [23:57:24] nice