[00:02:20] Yep... i wish more mods had an ala carte system so you could disable redundant parts you have that are redundant. [00:03:17] that's what The Janitor's Closet is for [00:03:24] Hide or even Perma-Prune [00:04:09] Anyhow, I want to get through my career without ever hiring crew, but having, in particular, only two pilots is getting cumbersome. As such, I was trying to design a craft.... [00:05:00] to do the tourism+ space camp contract. I don't really have the nodes unlocked for hypersonic aircraft, probably need to explore Mun or launch a lab first, so I was going to use a single use rocket. Designing a rocket capable of getting the requisite number of tourists... [00:06:16] Do what I'm going to. Have seperate KSP folders for different mods. [00:06:50] into orbit and meeting the LS and habitation requirements wasn't that hard, and I started sandbox testing the craft. The problem is that it's designed to do a "bullet-shaped" apollo-style reentry, and I had the chutes set to open, probably, too high, and they burned off. [00:07:36] But I kind of wonder if there's a fundamental issue with using a "backwards bullet" design for a 20+ tonne craft, and whether I should try to induce a spin, or... I don't know what. [00:08:57] I'll screenshot the craft when it loads. I feel silly, but that's where I got frustrated and stopped playing. [00:14:50] lovely, Kopernicus exception. I may just start a new career, will only take me a few hours to get back to where I was. [00:14:58] Won't interfere with the sandbox test, though... [00:16:42] maybe I'll do a quarter scale RSS install with stock parts. Last time I did, the 'scale' made it a struggle to get into orbit, much less further. [00:18:08] Could start from 1.4, and see what mods exist. [00:20:32] yeah. that makes sense. I'll show this off if it loads, sorry for rambling :) [00:24:17] I will make it again! And better! [00:26:13] No FAR in 1.4? [01:05:10] http://www.whereisroadster.com/ [01:12:58] ve2dmn, I'm more concerned by the fact that, by closure of orbits, since it did a 3rd stage burn to leave Earth, it's going to come back here someday. [01:13:25] I doubt it will hit the surface intact, even if it enters directly hood or trunk-first, but... [01:15:21] How likely is it that Starman will be prompted to put his hands on the wheel in time not to enter over a major city, especially one where Elon doesn't have a current registration and insurance? [01:16:45] for what definition of "over", "major" and "city"? [01:16:59] that's a good question. [01:17:16] It would probably be more like some iron added to the stratosphere over a hemisphere. [01:17:20] Can you name Elon's Citizenship? [01:17:30] US and SA dual. [01:18:12] my brain was reaching for "Australia", but south africa is close enough i guess :p [01:18:24] his accent is hard to place. [01:18:37] i don't think i have ever heard him speak [01:19:14] not that i could place english accents into regions [01:19:28] ah... [01:19:49] i think the thing is that US/UK/CA are far enough from AU/SA/NZ that we find it hard to tell the latter apart. [01:19:54] I'm sure they say the same. [01:20:03] i just remembered that he was from outside the US, and something southern hemisphere [01:20:55] and with these two pieces of information, australia would be the first obvious choice [01:21:25] nod [02:25:15] Note to self - if you make a rover for low-gravity bodies, the engines you use to keep it on the surface of said body can also propel the thing out of the SOI entirely... [04:39:15] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:42:33] Hello [09:42:48] spaceplan? spaceplane? [09:43:09] Uh, I need to build a spaceplane some day [09:43:11] What [09:43:24] Do you remember me? [09:43:32] And I wanna build something like Skylon in RSS :D [09:43:47] hard mode [09:43:56] Do you see my Messages? [09:44:02] yes [09:44:05] and i remember you [09:44:11] They are grey for me for some reason [09:44:26] hehe, all messages are grey [09:44:36] Now its ok [09:44:40] I changed my theme [09:44:53] I cant remember what system nickname i had [09:45:24] It looks pretty [09:45:31] Did it get updated? [09:45:38] Or was it like this for a long time? [09:45:52] there shouldnt be any color codes emitted [09:46:09] btw how are you? [09:46:54] I couldnt get my Duna expedition into orbit ;B; [09:53:37] Hello everyone [09:53:39] Missed me? [10:19:58] I made a space ship, and didnt even use the last stage XD [10:22:24] I guess ill use it to get to minmus and then back to kerbin orbit [10:24:10] I have a engine, that is very powerful [10:24:24] And runs of Electricity and Xenon [12:08:35] yey. [12:08:52] is moho hard to get to? [12:09:21] that and tylo is the only thing i havent visited with kerbonauts yet [12:17:47] nothing is hard to get to, though some things may take a lot of ”V [12:20:19] moho probably takes the most dv to get to [12:20:38] tylo probably the most to land/return from surface? [12:21:55] I suspect Eve launch takes more than Tylo return [12:22:03] oh yeah [12:22:15] well [12:22:24] or at least is very comparable [12:22:35] is that still the case with the "new" aero? :p [12:22:56] my understanding is it made things worse for Eve [12:23:03] lol [12:23:19] to eve orbit around 8k min from sea level [12:23:20] (due to Isp -> thrust -> gravity drag) [12:24:08] I remember needing 11k in old aero [12:24:50] circularizing with nuclear was fun, I dipped pretty far into atmo again before I managed to escape :v [12:28:13] Hi [12:39:21] hah geocentric universe on the nonsequitur show [12:39:47] this is almost flat earth, so i guess i can listen to it [13:06:47] this guy is actually quite smart [13:07:03] he is wrong slightly, but not dumb as a flat earthers [13:10:47] just because there is no analytical solution the the 3 body problem it doesnt mean the newtonian gravity is failing. it still gives correct solution, just not analytical. but most differential equations dont have analytical solutions anyway [13:12:42] actually, even 2-body doesn't really have an analytical solution [13:13:00] pos->time is analytic, but time->pos is not [13:13:25] (because mean anomaly->eccentric anomaly is not analytic) [13:14:20] now michelson-morely, that must be one of the most misunderstood experiments ever [13:14:58] anything post-Gallileo is misunderstood [13:22:29] I had a really tough time with the applications of the concept of energy [13:22:46] i still dont know what energy is [13:23:03] aside from that which is retained [13:23:04] nothing more than a concept, really [13:23:36] I have become rather unconvinved that energy actually exists [13:23:42] why would it [13:23:49] do numbers exist? [13:23:56] exactly [13:23:59] does even position and velocity exist? [13:24:06] yes, those do [13:24:13] no, not according to the universe :) [13:24:16] well... position does, at least [13:25:29] matchematical concepts might exists, if you think of them as a platonist [13:25:33] sometimes i do [13:26:11] i would like to believe that even if humans die out, some day some aliens might find remains of science and recognize them, because they also discovered the same concepts [13:26:36] but it might be that there can be mathematics built on completely different concepts, and incompatible with ours [13:27:10] my point is that energy may not be something that physically exists, but rather is a mathematical tool for relating position and (apparent?) velocity [13:27:21] position however is only a macroscopic construct, doesnt really exist in reality [13:27:59] I think you might be confusing position with motion [13:28:01] it is probably that [13:28:19] not really, the same way as position doesnt existm velocity doesnt exist either [13:28:33] only in classical mechanics, because they agree with our macroscopical experiences [13:28:43] position exists, in 4D (+?) space [13:29:19] unfortunately neither general relativity nor quantum mechanics can be the final answer, so science, as it always was, still incomplete [13:29:26] but as soon as you use 4D space, velocity disappears [13:29:51] science is a process, not a "thing" [13:30:02] ok, then scientific knowledge [13:30:18] that's the only knowledge there is :) [13:30:24] hehe, true [13:30:43] the findings produced by the process [13:30:52] indeed [13:31:11] (and if you haven't guessed, I've watched a fair bit of Aron Ra) [13:31:12] it produced those two theories more than 100 years ago, and we couldnt unify them [13:31:21] and both are only half of the solution [13:31:51] I think quantum is younger than 100 years (though not by much) [13:31:52] i really like his systematic classification of life series [13:32:28] max planck around 1900 [13:32:32] so more than 100 [13:32:33] not sure I've seen that, but I did watch his foundational falsehoods series [13:32:49] yes, that is good [13:33:16] the classification thing is ongoing. at ep 30 or so, still not past dinosaurs [13:34:05] I've actually been mostly avoiding him and others latey. too much of a time-sink [13:34:26] my trick is to play t he video in the background [13:34:33] and do something else [13:34:39] only the sound matters [13:34:40] (still good shanghaied into John Michael Godier lately, though) [13:34:54] can't do that. too hypnotic :P [13:35:50] I find it crazy that even after two years, Tabby's Star still has aliens on the table as a possibility (though mega-structures got ruled out this week) [13:36:33] And Trappist-1 is still bouncing between maybe-maybenot for life [13:36:34] given the tools we have to get any information of something so far away... so basically only electromagnetic waves, it is not surprising to see there are problems [13:37:05] there were regular updates on youtube on tabby's star [13:37:34] a 16% dip in brightness requires a 40% diameter (assuming spherical bodies) [13:38:09] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHN1yTHRr6BU1Ndb26vBqlg [13:38:22] (approximately: I'm not quite sure how brightness varies over a solar disk) [13:39:05] it seems that was determined to be dust, but the source of the dust remains in question [13:43:35] oh this delightful drilling sound. i should just keep a huge concrete block to drill in, just to reciprocate in these occasions [13:45:36] btw one of the worst puns ever. there is the SIP protocol, and there is a lib that supports this, called resiprocate [13:56:30] Hello [14:00:15] I tried to assemble a satellite on the orbit [14:00:25] It is super ineffective [14:02:03] Have you tried attaching a nanab berry? [14:03:38] What [14:03:44] I was using KIS [14:04:18] you made. Pokémon joke, I ran with it. >_> [14:04:50] Unsure with KIS, was it wobbling apart? [14:05:05] No [14:05:26] what shall we do with the wobbling spacecraft, ... early in the mornign [14:05:27] I couldnt hold it stable to assemble [14:05:39] It was flying away [14:07:37] So i will send it assembled [14:07:57] Monolithic stations do have some advantages. [14:10:18] Like what [14:11:49] Lack of assembly is obvious one. Especially if you gave launchers that scale up well. [14:12:10] Shapes may or may not be more restricted. [14:12:32] More amenable to ground tests. 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[18:32:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:30:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jP9k8cJn3Q [19:30:39] YouTube - FPV formation flying [19:31:03] you installed burn together :) [19:31:17] heh [19:33:03] now I just need to fix the tiny plane [19:33:12] I had to hold right aileron the whole flight [19:35:26] and since we killed the plane my friend was flying I have to build a new one [19:35:29] better, faster [19:35:34] more efficient [19:36:05] harder better faster stronger [19:36:15] our work is never over [19:36:30] idk about harder or stronger [19:36:32] it is still foam [19:36:39] and probably won't have a wing spar [19:37:30] but my friend flies harder than me so idk [19:37:58] the big plane was supposed to be slow and drive like a truck but he pulled some pretty hard turns on it [20:02:19] hah ksp wekly is here [20:04:08] I'll have to take your word for it, my internet is being strange [20:04:59] not much in it [21:16:00] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:18:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:19:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). 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