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[01:09:38] <packbart> why not build the boosters all around your second stage (and rename the vessel after staging) - https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo.mp4
[01:33:26] <JVFoxy> huh.. was gaming KSP on pc which i brought to friend's place. Now he's gotten sucked into the game too
[02:19:40] <UmbralRaptor> mwahahaha
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[03:28:05] <UmbralRaptor> https://twitter.com/SkyandTelescope/status/1217569662185213953
[04:06:34] <transit> Bwoop
[04:10:51] <UmbralRaptor> prox cen c! 
[04:13:04] <transit> Toliman
[04:13:45] <packbart> even Jeb looks surprised. https://imgur.com/Teguj15
[04:15:58] <transit> What’s that line connecting the two?
[04:16:58] <transit> A Swiss army craft charging cable?
[04:17:02] <Eddi|zuHause> looks like a fuel pipe?
[04:17:30] <packbart> something like that. a KAS pipe. https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/142594-18-kerbal-attachment-system-kas-v15-incompatible-with-ksp-17/
[04:17:50] <transit> I thought they were 
[04:19:56] <packbart> rover wheel suspensions react weird when the vessels are heavy
[04:21:19] <Eddi|zuHause> in some versions of KSP i had planes jumping up into the air when loading them
[04:22:25] <Eddi|zuHause> and also things attached to the ground via KAS had the tendency to simply explode for no reason
[04:25:19] <transit> I’m an uncle. 😱😱😱
[04:58:56] <transit> Bwoop
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[06:28:00] <Deddly> O great robot overlord, I beseech thee to please bestow upon me the chanlog
[06:28:06] <Deddly> thx
[06:33:16] <Althego> lol
[06:54:56] <Deddly> Oh hey, I actually found a place that still distributes the 0.18.3 KSP demo
[06:55:11] <Deddly> Yeah yeah, I know YOU have one, bot, but that's an older one
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[07:06:15] <Deddly> There we go. Now, if anyone asks for the KSP demo, at least they get 0.18 instead of 0.15
[07:08:16] <Deddly> Oh right, they have a Mac one, too
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[10:03:02] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARIZnaMXTEU
[10:03:04] <Mat2ch> two days...
[10:03:15] <Mat2ch> I can't bear it.
[10:05:01] <Deddly> Is that going to be the best stream?
[10:06:01] <Althego> i doubt it
[10:06:05] <Althego> spacex has its own stream
[10:06:15] <Althego> probably a fewseconds ahead of nasa
[10:07:05] <Althego> however there is no official link yet
[10:07:16] <Deddly> So Nasa don't just stream Spacex's programme?
[10:07:21] <Althego> probably
[10:07:27] <Althego> that is why it would lag behind
[10:07:33] <Deddly> Ah I see
[10:08:01] <Mat2ch> SpaceX announces the stream links just a few hours 
[10:08:04] <Mat2ch> before launch
[10:08:06] <Mat2ch> usually
[10:08:20] <Althego> sometimes it is there long before
[10:08:24] <Althego> but it is hidden in yt
[10:08:31] <Althego> and you have to look for it in their twitter
[10:08:51] <Mat2ch> It's called "Twitter feed" :P
[10:08:59] <Althego> whatever
[10:09:09] <Althego> same way as you never send an sms
[10:09:13] <Mat2ch> They don't own their own twitter ;P
[10:09:35] <Althego> because short message service, so you use the service not send it
[10:09:57] <Mat2ch> (sorry, I just hate it when people say it that way and make it too easy. "Look on my facebook". It's called "facebook page", you don't have your own facebook!)
[10:09:58] <Deddly> You have to look for their twits
[10:10:24] <Deddly> Mat2ch, my internet isn't working!
[10:11:16] <Mat2ch> Deddly: "twits" is very close to chat rule infringement ;P
[10:11:24] <Mat2ch> Deddly: and don't push it! :D
[10:11:28] <Althego> hehe you just need to change one chat
[10:11:30] <Althego> char
[10:11:37] <Deddly> Twit is a legitimate English word
[10:12:12] <Althego> and the japanese long tailed tit is a cute bird :)
[10:12:44] <Deddly> Yes and they have a nice mushroom, too
[10:17:45] <Deddly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNDao7m41M
[10:18:06] <Deddly> That blew my mind, like most of his other videos
[10:25:35] <sandbox> it's the title of a children's book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twits
[10:27:41] <XXCoder> geez
[10:41:47] <Mat2ch> If Black Holes stop time, how can they grow bigger over time? ;P
[10:46:08] <Deddly> I've read it as a child
[10:46:21] <Deddly> (The Twits)
[10:46:48] <packbart> the point doesn't grow. its SOI does
[10:46:49] <Deddly> It's a British thing
[10:49:52] <packbart> often to be found in The Register's headlines
[10:50:27] <packbart> unless the article is about boffins and their new enlightments in boffinry
[13:04:24] <UmbralRaptor> Does the bot get confused if I talk about the demoman in TF2? 
[13:04:29] <UmbralRaptor> good 
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[13:39:36] <Mat2ch> Althego: going back to words and meanings, I never thought about how Itzehoe must sound to an english speaker... ;)
[13:44:34] <UmbralRaptor> That looks like a place name or something 
[13:46:51] <Eddi|zuHause> Mat2ch: with those names i'm never sure how they're actually spoken
[13:47:05] <Eddi|zuHause> like, Soest vs. Moers
[13:56:11] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptor: it is. It's a small city north of Hamburg
[13:56:32] <UmbralRaptor> ah
[13:58:26] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: well, in this case you spell the oe as a short "o"
[13:58:58] <Mat2ch> Should be similiar to Soest
[14:21:13] <Judge_Dedd> oe is like the Scandinavian Ø/Ö, isn't it? 
[14:22:11] <Judge_Dedd> (Pronounced like the English "er"
[14:22:14] <Judge_Dedd> )
[14:22:30] <Althego> Mat2ch: lol
[14:30:10] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: not in this case
[14:40:21] <Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: that's where the problem is. in standard german, "oe" is a standin for "ö"
[14:40:48] <Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: but in these place names, they often use the dutch phonetics, where "oe" is just "o"
[14:41:01] <Judge_Dedd> Ah
[14:41:02] <Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: and you never know which one they happen to use
[14:42:45] <Eddi|zuHause> it's not as bad as "Worcester", but a thing to be aware of :)
[14:47:22] <Judge_Dedd> Haha, true :)
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[16:59:45] <Althego> lol i like the red letters
[16:59:59] <Althego> bold red letters. no douvbt without any effect
[17:00:27] <Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1217742268393607168 spaceship tank construction, circa 2020, colorized
[18:00:43] <Eddi|zuHause> looks like one of those 50's scifi pulp pictures, needs more pink
[18:00:52] <Eddi|zuHause> or purple
[18:01:48] <Althego> somehow it has a strange fell to it. i cant really say what. maybe looks like props, or painting
[18:06:03] <Eddi|zuHause> what's with all the givaway spam in the replies?
[18:06:20] <Althego> some recurring elon joke
[18:06:47] <Althego> probably started by elon
[18:07:05] <Althego> i didnt lok into it, but it has been going for a year at least
[18:07:27] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not usually around these parts of the internet, but looks like a scam to me...
[18:08:05] <Althego> because it is not true
[18:08:56] <Althego> hehe it turns out it is a real scam
[18:08:57] <Althego> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/fake-elon-musk-bitcoin-scam
[18:38:55] <Judge_Dedd> Yes, people have been doing that for ages
[18:39:08] <Judge_Dedd> "Send me money, and I'll send you more back!"
[18:39:42] <Althego> and it works
[18:40:05] <Althego> i remember long time ago some scammers were doing that in eve too
[18:40:05] <Judge_Dedd> I got so fed up with spam I deleted my Twitter account
[18:40:31] <Althego> while mark hamill deleted his facevook account and kept his twitter
[18:41:03] <Judge_Dedd> That was for a different reason and I'd love to comment on it but I think that starts getting out of bounds here
[18:41:25] <Althego> meanwhile i never had facebook or twitter account
[18:41:55] <Judge_Dedd> I never had Facebook and I only got Twitter because Elon must was saying interesting things that I couldn't read without having an account
[18:42:13] <Althego> wait a sec, that plate on the top, it is so ksp style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45PhO2WjMw
[18:42:50] <Althego> i knew that the orange tank in the game was from the shuttle
[18:42:52] <Judge_Dedd> Or, KSP could have used that image as reference for the art style
[18:43:01] <Althego> bu i thought that plate waas just made up
[18:44:14] <Judge_Dedd> Most, if not all, of KSP parts have a real-life counterpart, but that's the first time I've seen that one
[18:45:59] <Althego> that image must be recent since it is about the sls, but i guess the part was around for a while before that
[18:46:35] <Althego> similar surprise was that the surface scanner that opens the radar antenna on the two sides was from the venera probes
[18:46:41] <Althego> at least from some
[18:47:12] <Althego> i thought about that as an other game only part
[18:49:22] <Althego> the small hexagonal was obviouslt from curiosity
[18:52:07] <UmbralRaptop> RT-5 and 10 aren't based on anything, right? 
[18:53:08] <UmbralRaptop> hrm. tricoupler also? 
[18:58:45] <Judge_Dedd> I think that the tricoupler and RT-10 are leftover parts from the really early days where Harvester was just making most of the parts up to look like bits of scrap
[18:59:20] <UmbralRaptop> yeah
[18:59:36] <Judge_Dedd> So I expect the earliest parts are where we are most likely to find no real-life analogue
[19:00:55] <Judge_Dedd> Back in the good old days when the game was going to be limited to sounding rockets and Harvester liked it how joints were wobbly :D
[19:01:09] <Althego> hehe
[19:01:24] <Judge_Dedd> Source: The KSP thread in the Orbiter forums
[19:03:56] <Althego> but actually i think somewobliness should be there
[19:04:04] <Althego> otherwise you are just flying a brick
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[19:52:17] <packbart> Althego: looks like NASA discovered TweakScale and just resized the 2.5m Rockomax adapter
[19:52:27] <Althego> hehehe
[19:52:43] <Mostly_Deddly> Althego, I think a slight wobbliness is probably realistic, but flying rockets with a keyboard isn't very realistic, either, and as long as SAS is as limited as it is, I think wobbliness just makes the game unnecessarily difficult sometimes
[19:53:01] <raptop> You'd think that with tweakscale, someone would have just made a seadragon already
[19:53:11] <raptop> (IRL. I'm sure it exists in KSP)
[19:53:39] <raptop> Mostly_Deddly: I'm still vaguely bitter that stock doesn't have user tunable PIDs
[19:53:42] <Mostly_Deddly> Oh right, real life. I was about to post a bunch of links
[19:54:32] <Mostly_Deddly> But if you're adding Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, why not other diseases as well? ;)
[19:56:40] Action: raptop slaps Mostly_Deddly around with a mechanical jeb
[19:57:01] <Mostly_Deddly> Hehe
[19:57:35] <Althego> hehe
[19:57:43] <Mostly_Deddly> Wow that sends me way back. I used to go to an IRC channel back in the '90s where a bot would slap you around with a kipper
[19:57:51] <Althego> i am kind of partial to state space control
[19:58:19] Action: raptop manually types the objects for trout-slap style things >_>;;
[19:58:45] <Althego> maybe state feedback or sliding mode
[19:59:52] <raptop> hm
[20:04:11] <raptop> !choose have Val do a low munar flyby|probe to Minmus|wait for Jeb to return|design a heavier launcher
[20:04:21] <raptop> oh, right. That bot's in another channel
[20:05:46] <Althego> the princess is in another castle
[20:06:36] <raptop> Right, I'll alert Bowser that this one is a trap
[20:06:54] <Mostly_Deddly> raptop, according to decisionbot, no to Low munar flyby, DO send a probe to Minmus, not wait for Jeb to return, and design a heavier launcher, while you still can.
[20:07:26] <raptop> heh
[20:07:47] <Mostly_Deddly> Oh wait, it has multiple choices, I didn't need to do them one by one
[20:08:30] <Mostly_Deddly> raptop, "Wait for Jeb to return by a nose."
[20:09:02] <Mostly_Deddly> https://decisionbot.org/#vs
[20:10:39] <Mostly_Deddly> Also, interesting fact, Mr Bean beats Stallone.
[20:10:56] <Althego> how, in what contest?
[20:11:30] <Mostly_Deddly> Althego, Decisionbot in "vs mode", Stallone vs Mr Bean: Fight
[20:11:48] <Althego> mr bean is fictional, stallone exists
[20:12:00] <Mostly_Deddly> I've seen Mr Bean on TV
[20:12:27] Action: raptop puts in Reimu and Marisa
[20:12:29] <raptop> "Reimu. That one was too easy."
[20:12:39] <Althego> hehe
[20:13:24] <Mostly_Deddly> raptop vs Althego: "Raptop wins again. Surely there must be a more worthy challenger."
[20:13:38] <Althego> hehe
[20:13:52] <raptop> ow
[20:14:44] <raptop> Incidentally, Reimu beats Okuu but not Flan
[20:14:53] Action: raptop ignores that this is random
[20:15:00] <Althego> hehe
[20:15:21] <Mostly_Deddly> It actually has a serious mode, too
[20:16:00] <Mostly_Deddly> You can put in pros and cons and give each aspect a weight as to how important it is, and it will calculate a decision based on that
[20:53:10] <transit> Test 
[20:53:21] <transit> Bwoop
[20:53:39] <transit> Having trouble connecting 
[20:53:57] Action: raptop plugs a cat-7 cable into transit 
[20:54:13] <transit> 👀
[20:54:28] <raptop> humans have RJ-45 jacks in the back of their necks, right?
[20:55:02] <transit> Several 
[20:55:08] <raptop> Excellent
[20:55:27] <transit> Is a router
[20:56:21] Action: transit beams all the data
[20:56:32] <Althego> betwen disconnects
[20:56:53] <transit> Well, I’m switching between apps 
[20:57:04] <transit> Before it wouldn’t connect at all 
[20:57:09] <Althego> dont tell me its an iphone too
[20:57:38] <transit> iPhone 8
[20:57:43] <Althego> hehe
[20:57:55] Action: raptop does a lot of IRC from my phone (Nexus 5X), but disconnect silliness only happens around iffy wifi
[20:58:05] <Althego> irc never disconnected for me on android or old winmo
[20:58:11] <transit> 🚲📲
[20:58:25] <raptop> It had problems on my Treo, but PalmOS never really did multitasking
[20:58:34] <transit> I think the WiFi here has IRC blocked 
[20:58:41] <umaxtu> your 5x hasn't bricked yet?
[20:58:55] <raptop> umaxtu: my replacement one hasn't
[20:59:32] <raptop> The one I actually bought back in 2016 did so in mid 2017. The one Google sent me has somehow survived
[21:01:36] <umaxtu> my entire family's replacements did it also
[21:02:15] <Althego> oh no an event horizon episode
[21:02:25] <Althego> it can wait until tomorrow
[21:03:40] Action: raptop is apparently lucky or something
[21:03:54] <raptop> Or something, given the phone's performance issues
[21:05:49] <transit> There was one early stylus based phone that I was looking at around the same time the iPhone came out
[21:06:18] <transit> Unsure of the brand, but it had very good battery life 
[21:07:10] <transit> May have been a crackbrrry or a Palm 
[21:08:34] <transit> Perhaps a Motorola 
[21:08:48] <transit> If I saw it I’d recognise it
[21:14:42] <transit> The motorola A780 maybe 
[21:18:28] <packbart> Nokia N900 was nice but had its flaws, too. pocket linux computer
[22:56:20] <darsie> One way ticket to Duna: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot104.png
[22:57:24] <darsie> Pilots only.
[22:58:41] <darsie> 2917 VF
[22:59:15] <darsie> 400 VF refund for the clamps.
[23:00:28] <UmbralRaptop> smol probe 
[23:01:28] <darsie> Smål
[23:02:30] <darsie> Hmm, getting to orbit would have been easier if I had put less fuel in the tanks.